Re: How to delete Trash folder

[raf]

On Tue, 3 Dec 2019 14:26:23 -0800 stan  wrote:
> How can I delete TRASH folder which for some unknown reason appeared as 
> sub-folder of INBOX folder.
Have you tried right click and hit delete.
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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[Ant]

On 12/3/2019 2:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 03-12-19 09:55:

On 12/2/2019 9:49 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ant:


Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Don't know if I understand what you want. Perhaps. Well, there is 
MetaGer.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer


No. In SM's URL form box, you can enter keywords and press its 
magnifying glass search icon for whatever search engine SM is set 
(e.g., Google). I'd like to have it search more than one search 
engines at the same time like in multiple tabs.
When I click on it's magnifying glass included in the "Search" button .. 
the search is done thru DuckDuckGo.
Perhaps you speak about the: "Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - 
"Internet Search" - "Manage Search engines" options


Yes, those parts. Is there a way to search with multiple search engines 
at once like Google and DuckDuckGo?

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Re: UA String Updates

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Edward wrote:

NFN Smith wrote:

There's only a couple of sites that I regularly see that don't like 
the UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.5, especially Google's home page.  
Thus, rather than doing global spoofing, I went to prefs:js and set 
general.useragent.override.google.com to show a standard Firefox 68.0 
UA, while still showing the standard Seamonkey UA (including in the 
mail client) to the rest of the world.


I thought it was a bug in SM causing the Google home page to behave as 
it is, however was told it's the User Agent causing it.


It's definitely Google's problem.  Showing a stock Firefox UA gets 
around the problem. For some reason, Google doesn't like Seamonkey.




Unfortunately, all of the User Agent switcher Add-Ons for SeaMonkey, are 
not compatible with the latest SM version.


I run PrefBar in both 2.49.5 on my primary working profile, as well as 
2.53.1 in a virtual machine, and not having any problems, but PrefBar is 
nearly impossible to find, anymore.  The developer removed it from 
addons.mozilla.org, and it hasn't gotten into the git archive of legacy 
extensions.


I just checked, and User Agent Switcher is still in that archive.

As far as I'm aware, as long as Seamonkey continues to support XUL, all 
the old extensions should work.  And I believe that even 2.57 (which is 
based on Gecko 60) is intended to continue supporting XUL, even if 
WebExtensions are also supported.  However, reading the notes from the 
developers' meetings, it seems that we're a long way from seeing 2.57 
released.


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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 03-12-19 09:55:

On 12/2/2019 9:49 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ant:


Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Don't know if I understand what you want. Perhaps. Well, there is 
MetaGer.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer


No. In SM's URL form box, you can enter keywords and press its 
magnifying glass search icon for whatever search engine SM is set 
(e.g., Google). I'd like to have it search more than one search 
engines at the same time like in multiple tabs.
When I click on it's magnifying glass included in the "Search" button .. 
the search is done thru DuckDuckGo.
Perhaps you speak about the: "Edit" - "Préference" - "Browser" - 
"Internet Search" - "Manage Search engines" options

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Re: UA String Updates

[Ray_Net]

Thomas Pamin wrote on 03-12-19 13:50:
My UA String is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0.


Should the NT 6.1 be changed to NT 10.0 for Windows 10? Anything else 
I should update?


Mine is: User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0 SeaMonkey/2.49.1

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How to delete Trash folder

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How can I delete TRASH folder which for some unknown reason appeared as 
sub-folder of INBOX folder.

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Re: Internet Shortcuts?

[Ray_Net]

Thomas Pamin wrote on 03-12-19 13:42:

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 02-12-19 23:28:

Thomas Pamin wrote:
I could always make an internet shortcut by dragging the icon 
before the url to the desktop. I could then change the icon of the 
shortcut. On one PC now I can't do that. I can drag it, but it does 
not make a shortcut on the desktop. It just shows the SM icon with 
no shortcut arrow. That means I can't change it's icon. Any ideas?


I finally solved this issue. First I did uninstall SM to see if that 
would do it. It didn't fix it. I then looked at file associations 
for URL files in this PC and my other ones. This PC showed SM for 
URL files, while my other PC's showed Internet Browser.


SM did look right to me, but I changed it to Internet Browser to 
match my other PC's. That was the solution - it changed things right 
away, so now I can drag from SM to my desktop to make an internet 
shortcut. Thanks for all the suggestions.

PERFECT !
Just a question: I am interested to look at my pc about "file 
associations for URL files" - Where precisely is located this 
parameter ? Tell me the steps to find this parameter ...


Just type "file associations" in the search box at the bottom of the 
Start Menu. That will bring up all the information you need. There are 
links at the bottom of the screen that comes up that will allow you to 
choose default apps by file type.

Thank you. I have also "Internet Browser" for .URL
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Re: UA String Updates

[Edward]

NFN Smith wrote:

There's only a couple of sites that I regularly see that don't like the 
UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.5, especially Google's home page.  Thus, 
rather than doing global spoofing, I went to prefs:js and set 
general.useragent.override.google.com to show a standard Firefox 68.0 
UA, while still showing the standard Seamonkey UA (including in the mail 
client) to the rest of the world.


I thought it was a bug in SM causing the Google home page to behave as 
it is, however was told it's the User Agent causing it.


Unfortunately, all of the User Agent switcher Add-Ons for SeaMonkey, are 
not compatible with the latest SM version.



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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[NFN Smith]

Ant wrote:

Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


I think only one engine at a time.  It's not just a matter of submitting 
queries (and there are different syntaxes for different engines), but 
also a matter of how results are delivered, especially ordering. 
Seamonkey doesn't have that kind of capacity.


There is something to be said for querying multiple engines 
simultaneously, rather than just throwing everything at Google and 
accepting their results. Google may be the most thorough, but other 
spiders do get stuff that Google misses.


For what you're looking for, you want to be querying a metasearch 
engine, which queries multiple engines, and then does the work of 
aggregating and ordering results.  There's a number out there. One I can 
remember that does this is Dogpile, but there's others as well.


This is where there used to be difference between ixquick.com and 
startpage.com (both run by the same operator). Ixquick used to be a 
metaengine, and startpage is a proxy that queries Google.  However, a 
couple of years back, they shut down ixquick, and any accesses to 
ixquick.com now are redirected to startpage.com.


Smith

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Re: UA String Updates

[NFN Smith]

Thomas Pamin wrote:
My UA String is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0.


It's certainly workable, although a stock Firefox 68 ESR on Win 7 will 
have "(Windows NT 6.1; Win64; x64; rv:68.0)" in it.  For compatibility 
purposes, it shouldn't make any difference, although what you currently 
have will show up in server logs as being different from a normal 
Firefox UA.


If you really want to verify, go out to portableapps.com, and grab the 
current version of Firefox ESR, then go to Help -> Troubleshooting 
Information.  (With a portable version you can download, launch, and do 
what you need, and then discard, without having to bother with uninstall 
or uninstall.)


Should the NT 6.1 be changed to NT 10.0 for Windows 10? Anything else I 
should update?


My installed copy of Firefox (just updated to 71.0) shows:

  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:71.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/71.0


If you want to show Firefox 68 on Windows 10, you would want:

  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:68.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/68.0


If you're doing spoofing for the purposes of getting around sites that 
are complaining about Seamonkey showing older versions of Firefox, most 
of the time, the only thing that you need is to show Firefox/68.0 at the 
end of the line. It's really unusual to see sites looking at other stuff 
in the UA. I've never seen it, but it probably happens occasionally.


A couple of additional considerations:

When you're spoofing the UA in Seamonkey, that applies to both what the 
browser shows to web sites, but it also turns up in the User-Agent: 
header in your email.  I run the old Display Mail User Agent extension 
(which shows a graphic in all received messages, of what UA the sender 
is using), and with that active, the message I'm replying to shows you 
using Firefox.  My use of that is uncommon, but it definitely stands out 
that you're spoofing, because Firefox doesn't send mail.


If you're sensitive about tracking by uniqueness, on that point, you 
*really* stand out, as much as you do by having a string that's not 
quite standard Firefox for your browsing.


If you don't want your spoofing to be as obvious, you might consider 
showing the string used by Seamonkey 2.53:


  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.1


There's only a couple of sites that I regularly see that don't like the 
UA string for Seamonkey 2.49.5, especially Google's home page.  Thus, 
rather than doing global spoofing, I went to prefs:js and set 
general.useragent.override.google.com to show a standard Firefox 68.0 
UA, while still showing the standard Seamonkey UA (including in the mail 
client) to the rest of the world.


Smith

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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[David E. Ross]

On 12/2/2019 9:33 PM, Ant wrote:
> Or only one search engine at a time?
> 
> Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)
> 

See .

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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


You must know that google has a keyword  SITE:url.com   search-terms

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UA String Updates

[Thomas Pamin]

My UA String is Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:68.0) 
Gecko/20100101 Firefox/68.0.


Should the NT 6.1 be changed to NT 10.0 for Windows 10? Anything else I 
should update?

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Re: Internet Shortcuts?

[Thomas Pamin]

Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 02-12-19 23:28:

Thomas Pamin wrote:
I could always make an internet shortcut by dragging the icon before 
the url to the desktop. I could then change the icon of the shortcut. 
On one PC now I can't do that. I can drag it, but it does not make a 
shortcut on the desktop. It just shows the SM icon with no shortcut 
arrow. That means I can't change it's icon. Any ideas?


I finally solved this issue. First I did uninstall SM to see if that 
would do it. It didn't fix it. I then looked at file associations for 
URL files in this PC and my other ones. This PC showed SM for URL 
files, while my other PC's showed Internet Browser.


SM did look right to me, but I changed it to Internet Browser to match 
my other PC's. That was the solution - it changed things right away, 
so now I can drag from SM to my desktop to make an internet shortcut. 
Thanks for all the suggestions.

PERFECT !
Just a question: I am interested to look at my pc about "file 
associations for URL files" - Where precisely is located this parameter 
? Tell me the steps to find this parameter ...


Just type "file associations" in the search box at the bottom of the 
Start Menu. That will bring up all the information you need. There are 
links at the bottom of the screen that comes up that will allow you to 
choose default apps by file type.

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Re: Internet Shortcuts?

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Ray_Net wrote:

Tom Pamin wrote on 02-12-19 23:28:

Thomas Pamin wrote:
I could always make an internet shortcut by dragging the icon before 
the url to the desktop. I could then change the icon of the shortcut. 
On one PC now I can't do that. I can drag it, but it does not make a 
shortcut on the desktop. It just shows the SM icon with no shortcut 
arrow. That means I can't change it's icon. Any ideas?


I finally solved this issue. First I did uninstall SM to see if that 
would do it. It didn't fix it. I then looked at file associations for 
URL files in this PC and my other ones. This PC showed SM for URL 
files, while my other PC's showed Internet Browser.


SM did look right to me, but I changed it to Internet Browser to match 
my other PC's. That was the solution - it changed things right away, 
so now I can drag from SM to my desktop to make an internet shortcut. 
Thanks for all the suggestions.

PERFECT !
Just a question: I am interested to look at my pc about "file 
associations for URL files" - Where precisely is located this parameter 
? Telle me the steps to find this parameter ...


Here are two ways that work in Windows 7:

1) Click "Start" or press the Windows key on your keyboard, choose 
"Default Programs." Or navigate to \Control Panel\All Control Panel 
Items\Default Programs. In both cases, the second option is "Associate a 
file type or protocol with a program."


2) In a Windows Explorer window, find a file with the relevant 
extension, right-click it, and choose "Open with... Choose default program."


I suspect other versions of Windows may also offer these methods, but I 
can't say definitively which do and which don't.


As for "URL files," you won't find any. But if you associate things like 
.htm and .html with your preferred browser, that should take care of it.


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Re: Is there a way to make SM's Internet search do more than one web sites at once?

[Ant]

On 12/2/2019 9:49 PM, Hartmut Figge wrote:

Ant:


Or only one search engine at a time?

Thank you for reading and hopefully answering. :)


Don't know if I understand what you want. Perhaps. Well, there is MetaGer.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MetaGer


No. In SM's URL form box, you can enter keywords and press its 
magnifying glass search icon for whatever search engine SM is set (e.g., 
Google). I'd like to have it search more than one search engines at the 
same time like in multiple tabs.

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Re: Internet Shortcuts?

[Ray_Net]

Tom Pamin wrote on 02-12-19 23:28:

Thomas Pamin wrote:
I could always make an internet shortcut by dragging the icon before 
the url to the desktop. I could then change the icon of the shortcut. 
On one PC now I can't do that. I can drag it, but it does not make a 
shortcut on the desktop. It just shows the SM icon with no shortcut 
arrow. That means I can't change it's icon. Any ideas?


I finally solved this issue. First I did uninstall SM to see if that 
would do it. It didn't fix it. I then looked at file associations for 
URL files in this PC and my other ones. This PC showed SM for URL 
files, while my other PC's showed Internet Browser.


SM did look right to me, but I changed it to Internet Browser to match 
my other PC's. That was the solution - it changed things right away, 
so now I can drag from SM to my desktop to make an internet shortcut. 
Thanks for all the suggestions.

PERFECT !
Just a question: I am interested to look at my pc about "file 
associations for URL files" - Where precisely is located this parameter 
? Telle me the steps to find this parameter ...

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