Re: What happens next?

[Ray Davison]

MRoss-GMX wrote:

Many People are not knowledgeable enough to download nor install
Seamonkey, and are lazy anyway.

My suggestion is anyone who wants to use SM learn three things;
Sub-Directory
Unzip
Rename

That makes everything controllable and predictable.

Ray
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Seamonkey not responding

[Cheryl]

This happens to me several times a day.  I mainly have to stick to sites 
such as Amazon and google.  Any sites that have scripts cause me an 
issue and I have to hurry and back out of them.  I've been doing this 
for a long while .  I was hoping the beta version would help but still 
doing the same thing.
I have both chrome and Seamonkey open so I can copy/paste certain 
websites from Seamonkey to Chrome so I can go read them.  Even Gyazo 
causes Seamonkey to hang.

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Re: What happens next?

[EE]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Cutrently donations and Duck Duck go search engine revenues plus sponsorship 
(watch the website). Don't expect this to change unless we make a deal like 
Waterfox (unlikely).


We would be better off making a deal with Pale Moon.

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Re: What happens next?

[00001lehmeier]

Am Samstag, 22. Februar 2020 21:21:48 UTC+1 schrieb WaltS48:
> On 2/22/20 9:51 AM, 1lehme...@web.de wrote:
> > But it would be nice if a little bit more publicity would be made, for 
> > example through articles in magazines and corresponding portals.
> 
> So volunteer and start writing and submitting those articles.
> 
> I think that the SeaMonkey blog is kept up to date when there is a new 
> release.
> 
> 
> 
> -- 
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> https://www.thunderbird.net/en-US/get-involved/
> https://give.thunderbird.net/en-US/

To write an article, you should also know what you are writing. I myself am 
only a user. So if you want to have an article from a user's point of view I 
can write it, but if you want to name technical stuff and make it public I am 
not the right person.

I never said that the Seamonkeys page is not up to date but only that more 
articles should go outside - because very few people go to this page ( 
 ).  More people read newspapers and 
websites like Heise, Chip, Golem.de, PC-Welt etc. than 
.

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Re: What happens next?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

meagain wrote:

 Original Message 

I too think SM is the best.
But
What IS the market? (even CCleaner has a browser!)


People like use what want a classic interface, plenty of options to customize 
and not a dumbed down mobile screen with tabs. Unfortunately not many left.




How might SM be monetized?



Maybe showing some ads every minute :D

Cutrently donations and Duck Duck go search engine revenues plus sponsorship 
(watch the website). Don't expect this to change unless we make a deal like 
Waterfox (unlikely).


FRG
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Re: What happens next?

[meagain]

 Original Message 

I do not expect miracles, but I am happy that it continues.
As for marketing, I don't expect the whole world to install SM and sweep 
Thunderbird and Co. off the market.

But it would be nice if a little bit more publicity would be made, for example 
through articles in magazines and corresponding portals.
It would surely be nice if some SM would try it and stick to it if they knew 
that there is continuity and that they don't have to look for a new program 
soon.
I wish you a lot of success and that you find possibilities to continue.

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I too think SM is the best.
But
What IS the market? (even CCleaner has a browser!)
How might SM be monetized?

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Re: What happens next?

[BERTRAND Joël]

Richard Owlett a écrit :
> On 02/22/2020 06:23 PM, MRoss-GMX wrote:
>> [SNIP]
>> Once updated for the 64bit laptop and 2.49.5, youtube still complained
>> until I added Firefox/52.0 compatibility. So youtube still works under
>> the older Firefox/52.0 ; I will keep Firefox/62.0 in mind for future
>> need though. Thanks.
>>
>> Still I don't like needing that, I would prefer Seamonkey to be more
>> respected and accepted. If only it could be loaded as an option in
>> many repositories/kiosks associated with Linux distributions, like
>> Firefox and other browsers are. Even if an older version, a user could
>> find it, install it, update it after installing the distro.
> 
> It was in the Debian repositories. IIRC there was some conflict official
> Mozilla policy and Debian policy/procedures.
> 
>> Put it in
>> users face anyway, somehow. The Play Apps Store routine works.
> 
> I run the x86 flavor of Debian. The installation from
> [https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.49.5.tar.bz2]
> was *TRIVIAL*!
> Download, unzip, point to executable, ENJOY.

Add in /etc/apt/sources.list this line

deb http://downloads.sourceforge.net/project/ubuntuzilla/mozilla/apt all
main

hilbert:[~] > dpkg-query -l | grep seamonkey
ii  seamonkey-mozilla-build   2.49.5-0ubuntu1
  amd64Mozilla Seamonkey, official Mozilla build,
packaged for Ubuntu by the Ubuntuzilla project.

JKB
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Re: What happens next?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Don Spam's Reckless Son wrote:
2.49.4 is in the current Opensuse repository although it is not installed by 
default (and has not been since it was called Netscape 4.8 or so).
2.49.5 is in the mozilla/experimental repository but I can't get Lightning to 
work properly on my experimental machine so I'm sticking with this level for 
the time being.


If they built with --disable-calendar or not enabling it Lightning will not 
work. There are some binary components which need to go into SeaMonkey.


I am using a locally self compiled 2.53.1 with OpenSuse. I suggest just using 
the official version from seamonkey-project.org



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Re: What happens next?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

MRoss-GMX wrote:

Re: What happens next?


Sat, 22 Feb 2020 13:11 -0700 EE wrote:
MRoss-GMX wrote:

Though Youtube is now flashing me
that "We'll stop supporting this browser soon. For the best experience
please update your browser." I play with the user-agent, no fix yet.


I set up a user-agent override for YouTube, claiming that SeaMonkey is
Firefox 62.  It works.  I no longer get the warning banner.


Thanks for reminding me, I was asleep, no coffee for weeks.

Though I had a useragent override for youtube installed via
about:config since my previous laptop, I used/copied the profile from
the old 32bit laptop I decommissioned. I had not updated it for the
X86-64 Acer nor w-Seamonkey 2.49.5. And it did not include the Firefox
entry for compatibility either.

Once updated for the 64bit laptop and 2.49.5, youtube still complained
until I added Firefox/52.0 compatibility. So youtube still works under
the older Firefox/52.0 ; I will keep Firefox/62.0 in mind for future
need though. Thanks.

Still I don't like needing that, I would prefer Seamonkey to be more
respected and accepted. If only it could be loaded as an option in
many repositories/kiosks associated with Linux distributions, like
Firefox and other browsers are. Even if an older version, a user could
find it, install it, update it after installing the distro. Put it in
users face anyway, somehow. The Play Apps Store routine works.

To do all that is work. I know the developers are shorthanded,
overloaded, and I am not in any situation to help that way.

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2.49.4 is in the current Opensuse repository although it is not 
installed by default (and has not been since it was called Netscape 4.8 
or so).
2.49.5 is in the mozilla/experimental repository but I can't get 
Lightning to work properly on my experimental machine so I'm sticking 
with this level for the time being.


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Re: What happens next?

[Richard Owlett]

On 02/22/2020 06:23 PM, MRoss-GMX wrote:

[SNIP]
Once updated for the 64bit laptop and 2.49.5, youtube still complained
until I added Firefox/52.0 compatibility. So youtube still works under
the older Firefox/52.0 ; I will keep Firefox/62.0 in mind for future
need though. Thanks.

Still I don't like needing that, I would prefer Seamonkey to be more
respected and accepted. If only it could be loaded as an option in
many repositories/kiosks associated with Linux distributions, like
Firefox and other browsers are. Even if an older version, a user could
find it, install it, update it after installing the distro.


It was in the Debian repositories. IIRC there was some conflict official 
Mozilla policy and Debian policy/procedures.



Put it in
users face anyway, somehow. The Play Apps Store routine works.


I run the x86 flavor of Debian. The installation from 
[https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.49.5/linux-i686/en-US/seamonkey-2.49.5.tar.bz2] 
was *TRIVIAL*!

Download, unzip, point to executable, ENJOY.



To do all that is work. I know the developers are shorthanded,
overloaded, and I am not in any situation to help that way.




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