Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Yamo']

Hi,

Edmund Wong a tapoté le 28/02/2020 01:36:
> Greetings,
> 
> The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
> 2.53.1!

Many thanks for the team!
It seems to work great like almost all the 2.53 beta version!

Fu2  mozilla.support.seamonkey

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ant]

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ for its 
release notes. Lots of readings. ;)


On 2/27/2020 4:36 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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On 2/27/2020 11:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 28-02-20 01:56:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ still doesn't show this version?


Hehe. I think you got a bit too excited. :-)


I sure did. :-P
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 28-02-20 01:56:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ still doesn't show this version?




Hehe. I think you got a bit too excited. :-)
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Re: Reinstalling Lightning in Seamonkey

[Daniel]

Rob Steinmetz wrote on 28/02/2020 3:40 AM:



I'm a little skeptical of moving to 2.53.1 now while it's still in Beta, 
since it makes changes to the profile. I think I'll wait until there's 
an official release. I do hope 2.53.1 will solve some of the increasing 
browser incompatibilities I'm seeing.


Anyone have any idea how soon that might be?


Reading the mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey, newsgroup and also here in 
mozilla.support.seamonkey, it seems Edmund Wong may have gotten a bit 
ahead of himself (and the rest of the Dev Team) with his announcement 
that SM 2.53.1 was out!!


Probably give the Devs the week-end  (to be safe!) and try downloading 
it from https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ for your OS!


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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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Edmund Wong wrote, on 27 Feb 20 22:40:


In all seriousnessity (yeah.. no such word..), I jumped the
gun.  I should've pushed the website updates and WAITED
for the website to update BEFORE making that announcement.

My bad!


Your "bad" is most people's "very good": You know, shows you're still 
only human while doing super-human work with the SM devs.  Thank you!!


Also a nice surprise: Now SM has a pt-BR version!?
Can it be installed over the en-US one with no problems?
Will it be maintained in future releases, or is that still uncertain?

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ant]

On 2/27/2020 5:40 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

*sheepish grin while pondering on this predictament*

Um.. erm..

Did I mention that you've got a smashing shirt on?

No?  You have a smashing shirt on!

In all seriousnessity (yeah..no such word..), I jumped the
gun.  I should've pushed the website updates and WAITED
for the website to update BEFORE making that announcement.

My bad!

Edmund


Hehe. I think you got a bit too excited. ;)
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

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On 2/27/2020 4:58 PM, Ant wrote:


Hmm, the two links in original post don't show up correctly too.


FWIW, you can skip the "pretty face" and go direct:
http://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.1/
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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Edmund Wong]

*sheepish grin while pondering on this predictament*

Um.. erm..

Did I mention that you've got a smashing shirt on?

No?  You have a smashing shirt on!

In all seriousnessity (yeah..no such word..), I jumped the
gun.  I should've pushed the website updates and WAITED
for the website to update BEFORE making that announcement.

My bad!

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Autoplay on/off is in the preferences of 2.53.1 b1 preferences (was: Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems)

[Paul Bergsagel]

If you are running SeaMonkey 2.53.1 b1 you can easily turn autoplay 
using the preferences.  Open Preferences and click on Appearance->Media 
and uncheck the box "Enable Autoplay of HTML5 media content".


alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should 
still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There 
are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even 
after you

click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have 
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at 
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ant]

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ still doesn't show this version?


On 2/27/2020 4:36 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ant]

Wow. Already? :D


On 2/27/2020 4:36 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/




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Re: SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Ant]

Hmm, the two links in original post don't show up correctly too.

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1 is not found.
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/ still says 
beta 1.



On 2/27/2020 4:56 PM, Ant wrote:

https://www.seamonkey-project.org/ still doesn't show this version?


On 2/27/2020 4:36 PM, Edmund Wong wrote:

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/







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SeaMonkey 2.53.1 released!

[Edmund Wong]

Greetings,

The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
2.53.1!

So please check out [1] or [2].

Updates are still not available via Check-for-updates unfortunately.

Thanks to all involved,

Edmund

NB: Personal note, I've never understood the concept of the
archive.mozilla.org caching.  While I've uploaded all the stuff to
releases/2.53.1/, I'm still seeing only the top 4 text files and
langpacks + linux* paths.   No mac, win32 or win64 or updates.
So maybe I'll need to wait.  Please check.  (I'm hoping I hadn't
screwed up somewhere... I mean.. it *isn't* the first time
I've uploaded to archive...  *sigh*)


Links:
[1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.53.1
[2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.53.1/
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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[Danny Kile]

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:

David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?



It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.

If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.

3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.



I have gone to your site and download HTML_media.btn and installed and 
everything went great. However, it is at the bottom of the list how do I 
move up the list?


What am I overlooking?

Thank you,
Danny




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Re: Flash Player and YouTube Problems

[alexyu]

Hi, David E. Ross! Thanks for writing, on 27 Feb 20 02:00:


On 2/26/2020 9:32 AM, alexyu wrote:


David E. Ross wrote, on 25 Feb 20 19:48:


On 2/25/2020 2:27 PM, EE wrote:


David E. Ross wrote:


I believe the preference variable is
media.autoplay.enabled
If false, HTML5 media is disabled.  If true, HTML5 media is enabled.

At least, this is how I control HTML5 media via PrefBar.  It does seem
to work.


That is not strictly true.  HTML5 autoplay is disabled.  There should still be
a play button you can click to get it to play, in most cases.  There are a few
sites where you need autoplay enabled to get the video to play even after you
click the play button, but I have an extension that gives me a button to
toggle the setting.


By default, I have media.autoplay.enabled set to false.  When there is a
video I want to play, I use PrefBar to change it to true (selecting a
checkbox on the PrefBar tool bar).  I then reload the Web page, and the
video plays.


How do you change "autoplay.enabled" (or not) in PrefBar?  I don't have
that option in my 'PrefBar Options'...  Is that one I didn't include at
the time of installation -- and how can I get in my PrefBar now?


It is a checkbox that I created and added to PrefBar.  Creating such
checkboxes is easy.


It's been a long time since I changed anything in my PrefBar, but I do 
know about its possibilities; by the way you described it, I didn't know 
if this was a 'PrefBar standard option' which I had neglected to add, or 
one added later (in this case, I now know, by yourself).


Thanks also for your generous offer:


If you want my checkbox, do the following:

1.  Go to .

2.  Right-click on HTML5_media.btn, select "Save Link Target As" from
the pull-down context menu, and indicate in the resulting window where
you want to download the file.


As I said, it's been years since I last customized PrefBar, so I didn't 
even remember where my 'PrefBar addons' were stored.  Turns out I had a 
folder named "PrefBar Buttons"... with none for video, as was to be 
expected.



3.  Right-click on the PrefBar tool bar, and select "Customize PrefBar"
in the pull-down context menu.

4.  In the list of PrefBar objects on the right side of the PrefBar
window, under Enabled Items, right-click and select Import in the
pull-down context menu.

5.  In the resulting window, navigate to where you saved
HTML5_media.btn, select the file, and then select the Open button.

6.  The checkbox will have been added to the bottom of the Enabled Items
list as "HTML5 Media".  You can drag it up to another position, which
will determine where on the PrefBar toolbar it will appear.

With a checkmark in the checkbox, HTML5 media is enabled.  With no
checkmark, it is disabled.

After inporting the checkbox into PrefBar, you can deleted the
HTML5_media.btn file from where you downloaded it.  In two weeks, I will
remove the file from my Web site.


I've added your "HTML5_media.btn"; I suppose none of the other files in 
your "(http://www.rossde.com/)test" folder have anything to do with 
this, so I left them alone; thanks once more.


After a 'trip down memory lane', I remembered that I do have an 
installed extension for this, but it's been ages since I last saw it in 
use; it's "YouTube Flash Video Player" 54.0.1, from Baris Derin; It 
offers 2 options, "HTML5 Video Player" & "Flash Video Player", but I 
don't remember if there's some way to toggle them without opening the 
addon's Options, which makes it rather inconvenient (and is probably why 
I forgot about it); as far as I can recall, during a phase, some time 
ago, I did try both options and, not noticing any significant change, 
dropped the matter.


My "media.autoplay.enabled" Pref is set to 'false', but the addon option 
is set to "HTML5 Video Player", so I don't know what SM makes of that; 
possibly, the Pref has precedence, which might explain why I didn't 
notice any difference when switching the options...


I currently use the "Video Downloader Professional" 1.97.37.1 extension 
(for video downloads, natch, but it doesn't always work for YouTube); 
previously, I used "Video Downloader Helper", but some time ago switched 
to the current one.  However, when it can't DL a video, good old "Clip 
Grab" usually saves the day.


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Re: Reinstalling Lightning in Seamonkey

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

It is bundled. Do not use the version from addons.thunderbird.net under any 
circumstances.


FRG

WaltS48 wrote:

On 2/26/20 6:09 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have been having problems with Seamonkey 2.49.5 Windows 7 64 bit disabling 
or deleting Lightning and other bundles extensions although I don't use them 
much. I have so far unable to reinstall it.


Does there exist an .xpi version of Lightning (and the other bundled 
extenstion) I can install or some other method to do so?




You need Lightning 5.4 for SeaMonkey 2.49.5.

 



What other bundled extensions?


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Re: Reinstalling Lightning in Seamonkey

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On 2/26/20 6:09 PM, Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have been having problems with Seamonkey 2.49.5 Windows 7 64 bit 
disabling or deleting Lightning and other bundles extensions although I 
don't use them much. I have so far unable to reinstall it.


Does there exist an .xpi version of Lightning (and the other bundled 
extenstion) I can install or some other method to do so?




You need Lightning 5.4 for SeaMonkey 2.49.5.



What other bundled extensions?

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Re: Reinstalling Lightning in Seamonkey

[Rob Steinmetz]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have been having problems with Seamonkey 2.49.5 Windows 7 64 bit 
disabling or deleting Lightning and other bundles extensions although 
I don't use them much. I have so far unable to reinstall it.


I can create a new profile that will work but transferring existing 
email, bookmarks filters and junk setting is a real pain and in a 
number of cases the new profile goes bad as well..


The key is 
extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}


If it exists reset it so that is it missing. Make sure Lightning is 
deinstalled. Should then show up during the next restart. It is a packed 
extension in 2.53.1 and can just be picked and reinstalled in 2.53.1 
from the distribution/extensions dir.


FRG
Thanks for the reply. I deleted part of my original post to cut down on 
the length.


I think I've already tried that. I had determined the appropriate key 
value for Lightning by comparing other working installations.


The place I'm having the most trouble is at another site. I'll try this 
again when I'm back there next week.


I'm a little skeptical of moving to 2.53.1 now while it's still in Beta, 
since it makes changes to the profile. I think I'll wait until there's 
an official release. I do hope 2.53.1 will solve some of the increasing 
browser incompatibilities I'm seeing.


Anyone have any idea how soon that might be?
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Re: Could we remove some files in the SM profile ?

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Ray_Net wrote:

Hello,
When we unsubscribe all corresponding files are removed except the .dat 
file - Could we remove this one ?
When we delete a news-server, there are still this-server.msf and 
this-server.rc files present in the news directory - could we remove 
thoses files ?


Not answering the question directly - because I have no idea which files 
are "required" and which are not and there is documentation for that - 
try renaming files rather than deleting them.  If you rename something 
and it turns out to be necessary, change the name back again.
You'll need to take a backup of the profile (with Seamonkey closed) 
before you start anyway.


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To connect contiguous cell areas

[Klaus Weber]

Windows 10 pro, SM 2.49.2

SM Help Pages:
/
//To connect contiguous cell areas://
//
//    Use the mouse to select the cells to be connected.//
//    Select "Connect selected cells" from the "Table" menu.

/This instruction does not work. I can only connect horizontal cells 
(with another instruction).

Is there a workaround?

Klaus Weber
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Re: Reinstalling Lightning in Seamonkey

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have been having problems with Seamonkey 2.49.5 Windows 7 64 bit disabling 
or deleting Lightning and other bundles extensions although I don't use them 
much. I have so far unable to reinstall it.


Does there exist an .xpi version of Lightning (and the other bundled 
extenstion) I can install or some other method to do so?


The Release Notes say this:

Lightning or one of the distributed extensions is not showing up or is 
disabled under Add-ons.
If the extension is disabled and can not be enabled deinstall it. If it does 
not show up after restart do the following:


    Enter "about:config" in the location bar.
    Enter "extensions.installedDistroAddon" in the search field.
    Reset the key of the extension not showing up using the popup menu with 
the mouse. If in doubt just reset all keys but this might bring back 
previously uninstalled distributed Add-ons.

    Restart SeaMonkey.


However in a number of cases the appropriate key is not present and toggling 
it makes no difference.


I can create a new profile that will work but transferring existing email, 
bookmarks filters and junk setting is a real pain and in a number of cases the 
new profile goes bad as well..


The key is 
extensions.installedDistroAddon.{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}

If it exists reset it so that is it missing. Make sure Lightning is 
deinstalled. Should tehn show up during the next restart. It is a packed 
extension in 2.53.1 and can just be picked and reinstalled in 2.53.1 from the 
distribution/extensions dir.


FRG
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