Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog

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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated.

I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog
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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated.

I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog
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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated.

I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog
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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


Thanks for coming to my aid once again...very much appreciated.

I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog
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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

On 5/9/2020 9:31 PM, Paul in Houston, TX wrote:

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while 
being able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?


I believe I have the information you are looking for...my account for 
SeaMonkey newsgroup is my username vs news.Mozilla.org.  Here is what I 
think you are looking for:


Checked - Ask me before downloading more than 500 messages.

Frog
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Re: I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Paul in Houston, TX]

Frog wrote:
I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being 
able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software...


Check:
right click:  news.Mozilla.org then server settings /
"ask me before downloading", how many messages is the box number set for 
and is the box checked or not?

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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

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On 2020-05-08, Ant wrote:

[...]
> However, you said HSTS earlier which I saw a few in
> https://badssl.com's list. I tried its red
> https://subdomain.preloaded-hsts.badssl.com which was probably the
> closest to the one I ran into last night, but it also let me add an
> exception. It didn't show "This site uses HTTP Strict Transport
> Security (HSTS) to specify that SeaMonkey only connect to it
> securely. As a result, it is not possible to add an exception for this
> certificate... uses an invalid security certificate Error code:
> SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE".
>
> Hmm! My SeaMonkey must be possessed or something! :O

Here (2.49.5) I get the message that allows me to add an exception, but
if I visit https://preloaded-hsts.badssl.com and then open
https://subdomain.preloaded-hsts.badssl.com after that, I get the HSTS
message.

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I Attempting to solve my Usergroup mail opening problem.

[Frog]

I continue to be unable to open messages on this news group while being 
able to open my email messages on the same SeaMonkey software (I have 
addressed this problem in recent exchanges on this user group) .   I am 
now convinced that this might be a unfixable problem…thus, I am now 
looking at removing and reinstalling SeaMonkey on my computer to see if 
that will correct my newsgroup mail problem.  I do have some question I 
need your help/thoughts/recommendations on before initiating this 
action.  (((Please remember that I am not very computer technical smart 
and my questions will reflect my knowledge level - my fear is possibly 
loosing everything on my computer.))) Here are my questions:


---Will removing my current SeaMonkey software have any effect on my 
Profile and/or my Accounts?


---Should I make a backup of my SeaMonkey folders (i.e. Address Book, 
Inbox, etc.) before taking this action?


---Will this action have any possible effect on my email messages and/or 
user group messages?


---Will this action possibly fix my problem of not being able to open 
user group messages in SeaMonkey?


FYI, it has been a long time since my present software was installed and 
there have been a number of updates since that time.  All updates were 
allowed to write over my existing software...no start over new has been 
involved for many years.


I welcome your advice on this subject.

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Re: SM 2.49.5 On W10 Pro Lenovo Laptop

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jcteyssier wrote:

bono1...@yallhoo.com a écrit :

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

bono1...@yallhoo.com wrote:

Hello all,

Getting tense on this side and not from being quarantined either!!!


I have not been able to upgrade from SM 2.49.5 because the email 
module gets blanked out and as such cannot see them unless I place, 
at random, my cursor in the box then that particular account filter 
will only show the email on which it lands.


On three (3) other computers I have with SM and W10 Pro there have 
been no issues with upgrading at all


There may be something obvious which I Am overlooking, now it is 
time for another set of eyes and thoughts...


TIA - bo1953



With 2.53.x Lightbird 0.7.1 can cause this. If safe mode or test 
profile also shows it check video drivers. Intel ones are 
notoriously bad and should be updated to the latest level.


FRG
FRG - Thank you for your suggestion. My video drivers were updated 
with the latest version.


I tried to install 2.53.2 and still had the same issue with the mail 
module.


Also, Sticky Password which is on the Tool Bar is greyed out, I 
forgot to say that.


I have tried dis-abling add-on's as well... to no avail.

Any further suggestions or ideas I need to pursue?

TIA - bo1953

Maybe not related, but i think windows Defender is more and more 
agressive from some month ago.
Try tu uninstal seamonkey, disabled Defender, install Seamonkey, 
re-activated Defender. Maybe something went wrong first time 
installation?


I use Seamonkey 2.53.2 on both Destop win 10 Pro and Laptop (Lenovo 
T61) win 10 Pro with shared profil located on a NAS.
I was forced on both computer to add Seamonkey.exe to "allowed" 
program to Dender. It was worling well but without this addition the 
start of Seamonkey windows takes between 5 to 10 minutes. After adding 
, the start have normal speed (a pair of seconds due to network).


Jean-Charles

jc - I have shut down Defender and Avast and still not able to install 
2.53.2, thank you for the recommendation


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Re: SM 2.49.5 On W10 Pro Lenovo Laptop

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



bono1...@yallhoo.com wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

bono1...@yallhoo.com wrote:

Hello all,

Getting tense on this side and not from being quarantined either!!!


I have not been able to upgrade from SM 2.49.5 because the email 
module gets blanked out and as such cannot see them unless I place, 
at random, my cursor in the box then that particular account filter 
will only show the email on which it lands.


On three (3) other computers I have with SM and W10 Pro there have 
been no issues with upgrading at all


There may be something obvious which I Am overlooking, now it is 
time for another set of eyes and thoughts...


TIA - bo1953



With 2.53.x Lightbird 0.7.1 can cause this. If safe mode or test 
profile also shows it check video drivers. Intel ones are 
notoriously bad and should be updated to the latest level.


FRG
FRG - Thank you for your suggestion. My video drivers were updated 
with the latest version.


I tried to install 2.53.2 and still had the same issue with the mail 
module.


Also, Sticky Password which is on the Tool Bar is greyed out, I 
forgot to say that.


I have tried dis-abling add-on's as well... to no avail.

Any further suggestions or ideas I need to pursue?

TIA - bo1953



> My video drivers were updated with the latest version.

If it is a laptop make sure they are really the latest. HP, Lenovo, 
Dell usually ship ancient ones only and never/seldom update.


FRG

FRG - updated the video drivers and still a no go...

Thank you for your input!

TIA - bo1953

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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Ant wrote:

On 5/9/2020 7:13 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Exactly. I looked and i think it was SiteSecurityServiceState.txt which 
just needed to be edited to allow the override again.


I noticed after posting that you'd mentioned something similar (should have 
read the whole thread first, but it seemed to have deteriorated into "works 
for me", "me too", "doesn't work for me"...).


SiteSecurityServiceState.txt looks like the one.  It might be necessary to 
completely exit SeaMonkey before editing it, as I think otherwise it will 
get rewritten from an in-memory version.  Find the line for the affected 
site and just delete it.


Bear in mind that the site had set an HSTS policy to indicate that browsers 
should only ever connect securely, and that failure to do so might indicate 
that the site or your connection to it has been compromised (although it's 
also possible the site has broken the implicit promise to ensure you'll 
always be able to connect securely, for example by letting their 
certificate expire).  You may be OK with this for a site which you only 
view, but should be suspicious if such errors occur on your bank's site.


The real issue is websites setting an HSTS policy, and then not maintaining 
their own security configuration, although a UI to bypass it (with 
appropriate warnings) might be useful.


Ah, thanks. I see two of these in my profile's SiteSecurityServiceState file:

antville.org:HSTS    44    18391    1620529497904,1,1,2
videos.antville.org:HSTS    46    18391    1620529497913,1,1,2

So, do I just delete these two lines to let me in it with its risks alert 
option (with SeaMonkey process not running)?


Probably just the videos.antville.org one will be enough, since that's the 
site you're trying to access, although antville.org might be relevant if it 
loads and resources from that domain and it wouldn't really hurt to delete 
both anyway.  But didn't you say they'd fixed their certificate now anyway?  
If that's the case, there's no point deleting the entries, since they'll 
probably be added back next time you visit the site.


Also, when did SM start using this list? I have never seen and heard of this 
one before. :)


I don't know exactly.  Searching my email archives (not every message on this 
list, only threads I had an interest in) I find mention of HSTS and 
SiteSecurityServiceState.txt in relation to SeaMonkey 2.40 back in 2016 - so 
at leat that long ago.




Firefox added it in 35 so probably SeaMonkeyx 2.32.

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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

[mozilla-lists . mbourne]

Ant wrote:

On 5/9/2020 7:13 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
Exactly. I looked and i think it was SiteSecurityServiceState.txt 
which just needed to be edited to allow the override again.


I noticed after posting that you'd mentioned something similar (should 
have read the whole thread first, but it seemed to have deteriorated 
into "works for me", "me too", "doesn't work for me"...).


SiteSecurityServiceState.txt looks like the one.  It might be 
necessary to completely exit SeaMonkey before editing it, as I think 
otherwise it will get rewritten from an in-memory version.  Find the 
line for the affected site and just delete it.


Bear in mind that the site had set an HSTS policy to indicate that 
browsers should only ever connect securely, and that failure to do so 
might indicate that the site or your connection to it has been 
compromised (although it's also possible the site has broken the 
implicit promise to ensure you'll always be able to connect securely, 
for example by letting their certificate expire).  You may be OK with 
this for a site which you only view, but should be suspicious if such 
errors occur on your bank's site.


The real issue is websites setting an HSTS policy, and then not 
maintaining their own security configuration, although a UI to bypass 
it (with appropriate warnings) might be useful.


Ah, thanks. I see two of these in my profile's SiteSecurityServiceState 
file:


antville.org:HSTS    44    18391    1620529497904,1,1,2
videos.antville.org:HSTS    46    18391    1620529497913,1,1,2

So, do I just delete these two lines to let me in it with its risks 
alert option (with SeaMonkey process not running)?


Probably just the videos.antville.org one will be enough, since that's 
the site you're trying to access, although antville.org might be 
relevant if it loads and resources from that domain and it wouldn't 
really hurt to delete both anyway.  But didn't you say they'd fixed 
their certificate now anyway?  If that's the case, there's no point 
deleting the entries, since they'll probably be added back next time you 
visit the site.


Also, when did SM start using this list? I have never seen and heard of 
this one before. :)


I don't know exactly.  Searching my email archives (not every message on 
this list, only threads I had an interest in) I find mention of HSTS and 
SiteSecurityServiceState.txt in relation to SeaMonkey 2.40 back in 2016 
- so at leat that long ago.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 
2.53.3 but given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max 
version the fix will only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413


It looks like the language pack is a good contender.  I've just upgraded 
from 2.53.1 to 2.53.2 myself and had the same thing happen.  With the 
2.53.1 en-GB language pack installed, the browser window showed the 
toolbar but no menus and the content area was grey.


Had to start in safe mode to install the updated 2.53.2 en-GB langpack. 
All was then fine restarting in normal mode.  For anyone not aware, 
updated language packs can be downloaded from 
.


Should this be added to the release notes?  Or is this what is described 
under known issues as:

Previous versions of Language Packs should be removed or disabled otherwise XML 
errors will be shown instead of parts of the application.


I didn't see any XML errors - just no menus and no content.

It sounds like the same thing is likely to happen on upgrade from 2.53.2 
to 2.53.3 if I've understood correctly?


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Holger wrote:

Yamo' schrieb:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.



Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.



It it was/is the language pack should be fixed in 2.53.4. Actually 2.53.3 but 
given that the 2.53.2 language packs have the wrong max version the fix will 
only be effective in 2.53.4.


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1635413

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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

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Ken wrote:


When the attached PDF file is highlighted and right click is done,
one of the options is OPEN.  That used to open another browser tab
for viewing the PDF file with Acrobat or similar program. It is not
viewed in the MAIL portion, but another tab for the browser. Hope
this clarifies the situation.


True, but if the Helper Applications pref is set to "Save," that 
overrules the "Open" selection and opens a Save File dialog anyway. I 
discovered that recently with an incoming Excel file, and it turned out 
I had "Microsoft Excel 97-2003 Worksheet" (.xls) set to "Save file" but 
"Microsoft Excel Worksheet" (.xlsx) set to "Use Microsoft Excel 
(default)." Updating that pref fixed the behavior.


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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

[Ant]

On 5/9/2020 7:13 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

I think the bit about the site using HSTS explains it:
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not 
possible to add an exception for this certificate.


When you've visited the site before, it's indicated that it uses 
HSTS, so SeaMonkey won't allow insecure connections in future.


You probably haven't visited the site before in Firefox, so that 
doesn't know the site uses HSTS and allows the exception.  Either 
that or Firefox allows exceptions despite HSTS - if that is the case, 
it might have been changed in a newer version than SeaMonkey is based 
on.


Exactly. I looked and i think it was SiteSecurityServiceState.txt 
which just needed to be edited to allow the override again.


I noticed after posting that you'd mentioned something similar (should 
have read the whole thread first, but it seemed to have deteriorated 
into "works for me", "me too", "doesn't work for me"...).


SiteSecurityServiceState.txt looks like the one.  It might be necessary 
to completely exit SeaMonkey before editing it, as I think otherwise it 
will get rewritten from an in-memory version.  Find the line for the 
affected site and just delete it.


Bear in mind that the site had set an HSTS policy to indicate that 
browsers should only ever connect securely, and that failure to do so 
might indicate that the site or your connection to it has been 
compromised (although it's also possible the site has broken the 
implicit promise to ensure you'll always be able to connect securely, 
for example by letting their certificate expire).  You may be OK with 
this for a site which you only view, but should be suspicious if such 
errors occur on your bank's site.


The real issue is websites setting an HSTS policy, and then not 
maintaining their own security configuration, although a UI to bypass it 
(with appropriate warnings) might be useful.


Ah, thanks. I see two of these in my profile's SiteSecurityServiceState 
file:


antville.org:HSTS   44  18391   1620529497904,1,1,2
videos.antville.org:HSTS46  18391   1620529497913,1,1,2

So, do I just delete these two lines to let me in it with its risks 
alert option (with SeaMonkey process not running)?


Also, when did SM start using this list? I have never seen and heard of 
this one before. :)

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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

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On 5/9/2020 5:18 AM, mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:
...

I think the bit about the site using HSTS explains it:
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate.


When you've visited the site before, it's indicated that it uses HSTS, 
so SeaMonkey won't allow insecure connections in future.


You probably haven't visited the site before in Firefox, so that doesn't 
know the site uses HSTS and allows the exception.  Either that or 
Firefox allows exceptions despite HSTS - if that is the case, it might 
have been changed in a newer version than SeaMonkey is based on.


I know I visit it multiple times a day in SeaMonkey, but very rare in 
Firefox. So, if I run into this issue again, then how can I tell 
SeaMonkey let me visit it even though I know its risks?

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Re: SeaMonkey v2.53.2 released!

[Ant]

You're welcome :)

On 5/8/2020 10:54 PM, noob wrote:

Done thanks
Ant wrote:

https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/feed/

On 5/8/2020 6:29 AM, noob wrote:

How, there's no RSS link there :/

Ant wrote:
Got this RSS feed at 1:56 AM PDT: ::seamonkeyblog:: SeaMonkey 2.53.2 
has been released! @ 
https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2020/05/03/seamonkey-2-53-2-has-been-released/ 

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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Yamo' schrieb:
> Hi,
> 
> I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
> during the upgrade...
> 
> Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.
> 
> 
> How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).
> 
> 
> I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.
> 

Hello, Stéphane,

i had a similar behaviour (no menu, browser area etc.) after the update.
The reason was the missing language pack.

The installation of the downloaded language pack xpi file was possible
without problems by opening the file in "--safe-mode".

Afterwards I restarted Seamonkey and everything worked again.

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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[Ken]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/9/20 12:57 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I 
seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF 
file I received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the 
attached file and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a 
folder and open it there, but I would like to open the file in 
MAIL if possible.  I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but 
that seems to have no effect.  Any ideas what might have 
happened or how to get this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of 
Preferences. You can specify what application will be used to 
open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just 
fine, it is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview 
in SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.



Which one opens the PDF attachment in the MAIL window?



In theory Isaacs extension should do the job but there is issue 2:

https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/issues/2

I fixed it up sopme time ago locally by removing the lines but heard 
that it broke again lately here. Didn't have time to look again at it.


FRG


Opens attachments in the Mail & Newsgroups window and not the browser?

Interesting.



When the attached PDF file is highlighted and right click is done, one 
of the options is OPEN.  That used to open another browser tab for 
viewing the PDF file with Acrobat or similar program.  It is not viewed 
in the MAIL portion, but another tab for the browser.  Hope this 
clarifies the situation.

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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[WaltS48]

On 5/9/20 12:57 PM, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I 
seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF 
file I received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the 
attached file and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder 
and open it there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if 
possible.  I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems 
to have no effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to 
get this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, 
it is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.



Which one opens the PDF attachment in the MAIL window?



In theory Isaacs extension should do the job but there is issue 2:

https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/issues/2

I fixed it up sopme time ago locally by removing the lines but heard 
that it broke again lately here. Didn't have time to look again at it.


FRG


Opens attachments in the Mail & Newsgroups window and not the browser?

Interesting.

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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I seem to 
have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF file I 
received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the attached file and 
choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder and open it there, but I 
would like to open the file in MAIL if possible.  I downloaded and 
installed PDF Viewer, but that seems to have no effect.  Any ideas what 
might have happened or how to get this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. You 
can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, it is 
within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type should 
be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in SeaMonkey" 
(Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.



Which one opens the PDF attachment in the MAIL window?



In theory Isaacs extension should do the job but there is issue 2:

https://github.com/IsaacSchemm/pdf.js-seamonkey/issues/2

I fixed it up sopme time ago locally by removing the lines but heard that it 
broke again lately here. Didn't have time to look again at it.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:

Yamo' wrote:




It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.



Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!


Something in the profile then.  Now the challenge is working out what ;o)


Check the release notes at
 - they
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.

Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become
necessary!


I sometimes backup it but not daily...


Backing up the profile before any upgrade of SeaMonkey is strongly 
recommended.  It's quite common (more common than is usually noticed) 
for the format of files in the profile to change from one version to the 
next.  A newer version will upgrade the profile to the newer format when 
first used, but having done so older versions will no longer be able to 
correctly use that profile.  So if you encounter problems with the new 
version, it might not be possible to go back to the previous version if 
you don't have a backup of the profile from before the upgrade.  I'm not 
aware of any such issues between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2, but doesn't hurt to 
be cautious.



I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...


I wouldn't expect issues with add-ons between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2 but, 
since it's an easy check, the first thing I'd try is to just disable all 
the add-ons via the add-ons manager, start normally and see if the issue 
persists.  If that fixes it, you can re-enable the add-ons a few at a 
time (restart SeaMonkey each time) to narrow down which it is.


The release notes mention some changes to scrollbar styling and some of 
the dialogs between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2, so not sure if that might have an 
impact on custom CSS.


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Don Spam's Reckless Son]

Yamo' wrote:

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:

Yamo' wrote:




It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.



Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!



Check the release notes at
 - they
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.

Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become
necessary!


I sometimes backup it but not daily...

I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...




There should be no difficulties between 2.53.1 and 2.53.2.
I'd even expect dropping from the higher level to the lower level to 
work but that would need further analysis, on the other hand the two 
levels are so similar that a fallback could well not make any difference.


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Re: OT Development sequesce releases)

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Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/05/2020 8:18 PM:



Basically only the browser works right in 2.57. Various problems with 
the other components. Usually use it only when I encounter a web site 
broken in 2.53 to check, when I find some time for a few 2.57 fixes or 
test 2.53 to 2.57 ports.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, If you don't mind, what is the sequence used when 
producing newer versions??


In my little bit I knowledge, I would have thought one version was 
basically an improvement on the previous version, e.g.


1.   Version ! of a program is produced and distributed.
2.   Users of Version 1 find some problems with that version.
3.   Version 2 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) 
and released.

4.   Users of Version 2 find some problems
5.   Version 3 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) 
and released.


etc, etc, etc.

Basically, once a version is "Out the door", all work on it ceases and 
full resources are dedicated to production of the Newer, Improved 
version. Well, O.K., maybe if there is a complete change of coding there 
might be "Spill" version of the already "Out the door", 'current' 
version, but nothing big!


It's not unusual to maintain one version while working on the next. 
e.g. while implementation of major improvements or new features are in 
progress for version 2, some critical issue (security vulnerability, 
data corruption, or whatever) may be found in version 1.  So a version 
1.1 is released to fix that issue, rather than leaving users with the 
bug until version 2 is ready.


As FRG mentioned, it does pretty much work as you suggest for the 
maintenance of one version (1 -> corrections -> 1.1 -> corrections -> 
1.2 -> etc.).  But in parallel with that, work needs to progress on 
version 2, otherwise you'll never get those new features or improvements.


SeaMonkey has the added complication that it's based on the same backend 
as Firefox and Thunderbird, but with a different UI (and perhaps some 
other things).  SeaMonkey 2.49 was based on Firefox 52, SeaMonkey 2.53 
on Firefox 60 (I thought 56, but release notes imply 60).  So a lot of 
work is needed to account for changes to the Firefox backend, which is 
apparently rapidly changing from one version to the next as Firefox rip 
out features, change/implement new APIs, etc., out of the control of 
SeaMonkey developers.


With a small'ish workforce of Volunteers, I would think this model might 
make best use of the limited resources! *IMHO* of course. ;-)


The trouble is, you'd be stuck with critical security vulnerabilities in 
SeaMonkey 2.53 until 2.57 is ready.  And those would be known issues, 
possibly being actively exploited, with fixes in Firefox but which the 
latest SeaMonkey would still be vulnerable to.


I really wish I had enough time to meaningfully help, but with the 
little time I'd be able to commit I'd probably be more of a drain on the 
existing team than a help.



But what would I know?? ;-P Not much!


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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[WaltS48]

On 5/9/20 11:30 AM, EE wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I 
seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF 
file I received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the 
attached file and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder 
and open it there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if 
possible.  I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems to 
have no effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to get 
this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, 
it is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.



Which one opens the PDF attachment in the MAIL window?

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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[EE]

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I seem 
to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF file I 
received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the attached file 
and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder and open it 
there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if possible.  I 
downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems to have no 
effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to get this 
ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.




Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, it 
is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?

What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?

I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).



You could use a helper application.

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Re: Ping FRG: following development releases

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 9/05/2020 6:42 AM:

NFN Smith wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

Actually sending mail got fixed in the last 2 months. Just the 3 pane is 
broken but without it pretty hard to see what is going on :)


Frank-Rainer, by "Just the 3 pane is broken", are you suggesting that you're 
just getting two panes displaying (Accounts Pane and Threads Pane, maybe??) or 
what??




You get a no pane. RDF datasources have been taken out of Gecko for 60. Broke 
sidebar, help and mail news. Biggest showstopper for 2.57 right now and the 
reason why 2.53 exists (other than the web extensions disaster).


FRG


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

[Yamo']

Hi,


mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com a tapoté le 09/05/2020 16:31:
> Yamo' wrote:


> It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey 
> 2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons 
> Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey 
> windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.


Sorry, I've totally forgotten the "--safe-mode" !
With this argument it's working!

Many thanks!


> Check the release notes at 
>  - they 
> mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important 
> detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.
> 
> Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from 
> SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring 
> your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you 
> might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate 
> version and start once with that version to update your profile to that 
> state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks 
> like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become 
> necessary!

I sometimes backup it but not daily...

I was upgrading from 2.53.1.

I will find the bad addon or bad users.css or something else...


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Re: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2

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Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
during the upgrade...

Black screen on the web module and I cannot post on usenet.


How can I redo the upgrade (there may be a file to remove or edit).


I'm on linux debian 10 amd64bits.


It could be an add-on which doesn't work correctly with Seamonkey 
2.53.2.  Try running in safe mode - Help > Restart with Add-ons 
Disabled.  If you can't get even see the menus, exit all SeaMonkey 
windows and then start with the command `seamonkey --safe-mode`.


Check the release notes at 
 - they 
mention known issues with some particular add-ons, and also important 
detail if you use a master password and upgrade from 2.49.5 or earlier.


Which version are you upgrading from?  If you're upgrading from 
SeaMonkey 2.49.5 or earlier, redoing the upgrade will require restoring 
your profile to before you upgraded.  If it's a very old version, you 
might need to restore your previous profile, update to some intermediate 
version and start once with that version to update your profile to that 
state, before updating to the latest.  But from your later post it looks 
like you don't back up your profile, so let's hope that doesn't become 
necessary!


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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

I think the bit about the site using HSTS explains it:
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not 
possible to add an exception for this certificate.


When you've visited the site before, it's indicated that it uses HSTS, 
so SeaMonkey won't allow insecure connections in future.


You probably haven't visited the site before in Firefox, so that 
doesn't know the site uses HSTS and allows the exception.  Either that 
or Firefox allows exceptions despite HSTS - if that is the case, it 
might have been changed in a newer version than SeaMonkey is based on.




Exactly. I looked and i think it was SiteSecurityServiceState.txt which 
just needed to be edited to allow the override again.


I noticed after posting that you'd mentioned something similar (should 
have read the whole thread first, but it seemed to have deteriorated 
into "works for me", "me too", "doesn't work for me"...).


SiteSecurityServiceState.txt looks like the one.  It might be necessary 
to completely exit SeaMonkey before editing it, as I think otherwise it 
will get rewritten from an in-memory version.  Find the line for the 
affected site and just delete it.


Bear in mind that the site had set an HSTS policy to indicate that 
browsers should only ever connect securely, and that failure to do so 
might indicate that the site or your connection to it has been 
compromised (although it's also possible the site has broken the 
implicit promise to ensure you'll always be able to connect securely, 
for example by letting their certificate expire).  You may be OK with 
this for a site which you only view, but should be suspicious if such 
errors occur on your bank's site.


The real issue is websites setting an HSTS policy, and then not 
maintaining their own security configuration, although a UI to bypass it 
(with appropriate warnings) might be useful.


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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

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mozilla-lists.mbou...@spamgourmet.com wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

https://videos.antville.org web site (not mine) currently says:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to videos.antville.org, but we 
can't confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present trusted 
identification to prove that you are going to the right place. However, this 
website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error could 
mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and you shouldn't 
continue.


This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to 
add an exception for this certificate.

Technical Details

videos.antville.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate expired on Thursday, May 07, 2020, 5:06 PM. The current time 
is Thursday, May 07, 2020, 9:42 PM.


Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE".


In the past, SeaMonkey web browser used to ask me to continue or not. I did 
not see any continue on it even though I know the risks. In Firefox v76 web 
browser, it lets me continue. Why did SeaMonkey remove this while Firefox 
still has it?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)



I think the bit about the site using HSTS explains it:
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible to 
add an exception for this certificate.


When you've visited the site before, it's indicated that it uses HSTS, so 
SeaMonkey won't allow insecure connections in future.


You probably haven't visited the site before in Firefox, so that doesn't know 
the site uses HSTS and allows the exception.  Either that or Firefox allows 
exceptions despite HSTS - if that is the case, it might have been changed in a 
newer version than SeaMonkey is based on.




Exactly. I looked and i think it was SiteSecurityServiceState.txt which just 
needed to be edited to allow the override again.


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Re: SM2.53.2 portable?

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On 5/9/20 3:06 AM, jcteyssier wrote:

NFN Smith a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 5:13 AM, jcteyssier wrote:

jcteyssier a écrit :

Hello folks,

does seamonkey 2.53.2 / win 10 64 portable version exist somewhere?
I use to have portable edition with 2.49.x and did not find 
equivalent in 2.53.x


Jean-Charles

Found:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.2/win64/fr/seamonkey-2.53.2.fr.win64.zip 



But no direct link  here:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.53.2


SeaMonkey doesn't make the portable versions.

You get those from 

There is a Support link there where you could probably ask for an 
update.


In the past, portableapps.com has been pretty good about having 
current copies of Seamonkey, although at the moment, the most recent 
version offered is 2.49.5.  I don't know how soon the developer is 
likely to update, although 
https://portableapps.com/development/outdated does indicate that 
2.53.2 is being built.


Smith


Seamonkey DOES make the portable version:
just browse

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.2/

then descend into your operating system path and language: zip file is 
here.
Unfortunately, no direct link from the front page (only .exe files for 
windows):


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases

Jean-Charles


No, I'm on Linux and I only have a direct link from the front page to 
the the Linux file. No direct link to the Windows or Mac file.


Never used a .zip file and there never has been a direct link to it from 
the front page.


Apologies for not knowing it existed.

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Re: Unable to continue when a HTTPS connection is untrusted?

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Ant wrote:

Hello.

https://videos.antville.org web site (not mine) currently says:

"This Connection is Untrusted

You have asked SeaMonkey to connect securely to videos.antville.org, but 
we can't confirm that your connection is secure.


Normally, when you try to connect securely, websites will present 
trusted identification to prove that you are going to the right place. 
However, this website's identity can't be verified.

What Should I Do?

If you usually connect to this website without problems, this error 
could mean that someone is trying to impersonate the website, and you 
shouldn't continue.


This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate.

Technical Details

videos.antville.org uses an invalid security certificate.

The certificate expired on Thursday, May 07, 2020, 5:06 PM. The current 
time is Thursday, May 07, 2020, 9:42 PM.


Error code: SEC_ERROR_EXPIRED_CERTIFICATE".


In the past, SeaMonkey web browser used to ask me to continue or not. I 
did not see any continue on it even though I know the risks. In Firefox 
v76 web browser, it lets me continue. Why did SeaMonkey remove this 
while Firefox still has it?


Thank you for reading and hopefully answering soon. :)



I think the bit about the site using HSTS explains it:
This site uses HTTP Strict Transport Security (HSTS) to specify that 
SeaMonkey only connect to it securely. As a result, it is not possible 
to add an exception for this certificate.


When you've visited the site before, it's indicated that it uses HSTS, 
so SeaMonkey won't allow insecure connections in future.


You probably haven't visited the site before in Firefox, so that doesn't 
know the site uses HSTS and allows the exception.  Either that or 
Firefox allows exceptions despite HSTS - if that is the case, it might 
have been changed in a newer version than SeaMonkey is based on.


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Re: OT Development sequesce (Was: Re: Ping FRG: following development releases)

[Frank-Rainer Grahl]

Daniel wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/05/2020 8:18 PM:



Basically only the browser works right in 2.57. Various problems with the 
other components. Usually use it only when I encounter a web site broken in 
2.53 to check, when I find some time for a few 2.57 fixes or test 2.53 to 
2.57 ports.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, If you don't mind, what is the sequence used when producing 
newer versions??




Focus is on 2.53.x

We do patches with fixes or enhancements which go into the unofficial patch 
repo when the patch author thinks they are ready for testing. Asking for 
official review should be done at this time too or a bit later. Some are work 
in progress still ok but missing a few thing like proper styling styling. Put 
in for general testing but not into the official versions. You cna see this 
with the different loading indicators in Bills build or the floating delete 
button in front of a receipient in mail /news (port of a TB bug lack styling).


Bill picks up the patch queues and so his builds are bleeding edge. But we use 
 builds done with this patches ourselves so really bad changes only go into 
now and then and are usually quickly spotted. One of the reason you should 
always keep you last working version.


When patches are reviewed they will be uplifted to 2.57 and checked into 
comm-central. Some even earlier into 2.57 if they need a bigger modification 
because of changes in the Gecko backend.


We plan to do 2.53.x Betas every 4-6 weeks so once we think that a patch level 
is stable we strip out work in progress fixes for it update the official 
gitlab repos and do a Beta. Only selected fixes or security backports then go 
into this beta branch leading to the general release.


Bills builds switch to a higher version when we cut the beta and so it goes on.

2.57 will become ready over time. When it is we will switch the cycle over to 
it.

Fixing up comm-central later might be a treat because of all the removals and 
changes. Best we could do right now is done. Will only happen if we can retain 
the look and feel plust most of the functionality from current SeaMonkey. 
Probably needs more devs so don't expect it soon.


But everything fixed for 2.53 will go into the later releases and comm-central 
will be kept building even with its own fixes just for this.


In my little bit I knowledge, I would have thought one version was basically 
an improvement on the previous version, e.g.


1.   Version ! of a program is produced and distributed.
2.   Users of Version 1 find some problems with that version.
3.   Version 2 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) and 
released.

4.   Users of Version 2 find some problems
5.   Version 3 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) and 
released.


etc, etc, etc.

Basically, once a version is "Out the door", all work on it ceases and full 
resources are dedicated to production of the Newer, Improved version. Well, 
O.K., maybe if there is a complete change of coding there might be "Spill" 
version of the already "Out the door", 'current' version, but nothing big!


With a small'ish workforce of Volunteers, I would think this model might make 
best use of the limited resources! *IMHO* of course. ;-)


But what would I know?? ;-P Not much!



It is basically done like this but on the 2.53 branch. Also backporting is 
done left and right whenever possible to get newer features and security 
updates into 2.53 and 2.57. 2.53.3 has many many media updates in paving the 
road for AV1 and webp support in a later release for example.


FRG
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Re: Opening an attached PDF file

[Daniel]

WaltS48 wrote on 9/05/2020 11:26 AM:

Ken wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 2:19 PM, Ken wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Ken wrote:
I recently upgraded from version 2.49.5 to version 2.53.2 and I 
seem to have lost the ability to open (in Email) an attached PDF 
file I received.  Previously I had done so by clicking on the 
attached file and choosing OPEN.  I can save the file to a folder 
and open it there, but I would like to open the file in MAIL if 
possible.  I downloaded and installed PDF Viewer, but that seems 
to have no effect.  Any ideas what might have happened or how to 
get this ability back??


Look in Helper Applications in the Browser section of Preferences. 
You can specify what application will be used to open any file type.


Appreciate your reply and suggestion, but that did not change the 
situation.  Any other ideas??  The browser seems to work just fine, 
it is within the MAIL part that it fails to open.


So you receive PDF attachments and they don't open in the browser?


It opens in the browser, but not in the MAIL component.


What did your Helper Application indicate they should be opening with?


It initially said to choose, but I set it to Acrobat Reader DC.  That 
did not solve the problem.


I think if you have a working PDF Viewer extension the Content Type 
should be "Portable Document Format(PDF)" and the Action "Preview in 
SeaMonkey" (Maybe Firefox).


I've never had any attachment open in the Mail window.


For what it's worth  me neither! In a Tab in the Browser or an 
external PDF program, sure, but never in the Mail screen!


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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Re: Ping FRG: following development releases

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 9/05/2020 6:42 AM:

NFN Smith wrote:

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:



They are more or less profile compatible at the moment. If you use it 
only for testing you can use the same profile. Just need to reinstall 
Lightning if you used 2.57 and did go back. Actually 2.53.3 has even 
some later stuff in.


With extensions I would recommend separate profiles. Older ones can 
hang 2.57 at shutdown or produce funny results.


Basically only the browser works right in 2.57. Various problems with 
the other components. Usually use it only when I encounter a web site 
broken in 2.53 to check, when I find some time for a few 2.57 fixes 
or test 2.53 to 2.57 ports.


Thanks for the feedback.

I will go with separate profiles, because I do want to monitor status 
with extensions.  I found that to be really useful when watching 
Firefox, then Thunderbird make the transition to WebExtensions.  I'm 
not making any use of Lightning, so I'm not concerned about that.


 From the developer meeting notes, I do know that mail/news is not 
working in 2.57, but that's one of the things I want to keep an eye 
on, so that when the notes indicate there's changes, I can see the 
effects.


And somewhere along, I may be able to do some bug reporting, as well.

Smith


Actually sending mail got fixed in the last 2 months. Just the 3 pane is 
broken but without it pretty hard to see what is going on :)


Frank-Rainer, by "Just the 3 pane is broken", are you suggesting that 
you're just getting two panes displaying (Accounts Pane and Threads 
Pane, maybe??) or what??


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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
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OT Development sequesce (Was: Re: Ping FRG: following development releases)

[Daniel]

Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote on 8/05/2020 8:18 PM:



Basically only the browser works right in 2.57. Various problems with 
the other components. Usually use it only when I encounter a web site 
broken in 2.53 to check, when I find some time for a few 2.57 fixes or 
test 2.53 to 2.57 ports.


FRG


Frank-Rainer, If you don't mind, what is the sequence used when 
producing newer versions??


In my little bit I knowledge, I would have thought one version was 
basically an improvement on the previous version, e.g.


1.   Version ! of a program is produced and distributed.
2.   Users of Version 1 find some problems with that version.
3.   Version 2 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) 
and released.

4.   Users of Version 2 find some problems
5.   Version 3 includes some corrections (but code basically the same) 
and released.


etc, etc, etc.

Basically, once a version is "Out the door", all work on it ceases and 
full resources are dedicated to production of the Newer, Improved 
version. Well, O.K., maybe if there is a complete change of coding there 
might be "Spill" version of the already "Out the door", 'current' 
version, but nothing big!


With a small'ish workforce of Volunteers, I would think this model might 
make best use of the limited resources! *IMHO* of course. ;-)


But what would I know?? ;-P Not much!

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Win7 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.5 Build identifier: 20190609032134


Linux User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) 
Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171015235623

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Bad first run (WAS: Can't use Seamonkey 2.53.2)

[Yamo']

Hi,

Gerry Hickman a tapoté le 08/05/2020 23:35:
> Yamo' wrote:
>> I cannot use the latest version there must be something that happen
>> during the upgrade...
> 
> You need to clarify what you mean by "upgrade"?


When first run, Seamonkey often do checks and sometimes cleaning of the
profile.
It is that gone wrong : before running 2.53.2, I saw a window that warn
me that this check is done (I don't know why).

> I thought the install process on Linux was just to extract the x64 
> binaries, so the upgrade process would be:
> 
> 1. Write down the profile location
> 2. Back up the profile
> 3. Back up the old SeaMonkey binaries
> 4. Extract the new SeaMonkey binaries

My profile is too big to quickly backup it (a lots of mails that I want
to keep) : I use the same profile since I could backup my computer in 2001.

Thanks for your reply,



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Re: SM2.53.2 portable?

[jcteyssier]

NFN Smith a écrit :

WaltS48 wrote:

On 5/8/20 5:13 AM, jcteyssier wrote:

jcteyssier a écrit :

Hello folks,

does seamonkey 2.53.2 / win 10 64 portable version exist somewhere?
I use to have portable edition with 2.49.x and did not find 
equivalent in 2.53.x


Jean-Charles

Found:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.2/win64/fr/seamonkey-2.53.2.fr.win64.zip 



But no direct link  here:
https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/#2.53.2


SeaMonkey doesn't make the portable versions.

You get those from 

There is a Support link there where you could probably ask for an update.


In the past, portableapps.com has been pretty good about having current 
copies of Seamonkey, although at the moment, the most recent version 
offered is 2.49.5.  I don't know how soon the developer is likely to 
update, although https://portableapps.com/development/outdated does 
indicate that 2.53.2 is being built.


Smith


Seamonkey DOES make the portable version:
just browse

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/releases/2.53.2/

then descend into your operating system path and language: zip file is here.
Unfortunately, no direct link from the front page (only .exe files for 
windows):


https://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases

Jean-Charles
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