Re: the unhinged mob

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Ronnie wrote:

apparently has invaded this list... ridiculous


btw, the oldest posting I could find from that advert for secure 
institutions was from June 2013.  ymmv, I may have missed some older ones.

Yes, he inspired this persona but I think I'll change it soon.

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Re: Seamonkey Web Application problem

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Rob Steinmetz wrote:
I have a web application for time and billing. It is a old application 
but works as well as we need it to.


I have recently discovered that some functions do not work in SeaMonkey 
2.49.4. They do work in Thunderbird and Chrome.




No answers, just some questions.
- Firstly I have to ask if you really mean Thunderbird and not Firefox.
- I'm sure the answer is "No" but I have to ask: do you have anything 
like NoScript installed?

- When (as in: which Seamonkey level) did this last work?
- This is your web application so we can discount user-agent idiocies.

Personally I'd be tempted to fall back to the last working Seamonkey 
level but checking the Release Notes for obvious causes would also be 
indicated.
I have the ESR version of Firefox installed, Seamonkey is based on that. 
 It is a first step when checking perceived bugs on the browser side of 
things, not that I have had any for while.


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Re: New Password Popup

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Tom Pamin wrote:
I started getting popups on quite a few aviation sites that ask for a 
username and password. I've never seen these popups before. What is 
causing this?


Here's one site that's affected, with this popup wording:
"http://airportwebcams.net is requesting your username and password. The 
site says: “Access Restricted (pwrestrict)”>


http://airportwebcams.net


What does this have to with Seamonkey?  This is a problem with the 
website - either misconfigured or deliberate.


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Re: window size problem

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

cyberzen wrote:

Hi,
I have a problem that I tried to solve but with no result up to now
I set up a new PC in my home, windows 10 pro, I installed the last 
current seamonkey on it 2.49.4
as I have already a laptop with windows 7 on it, same seamonkey 
release, but fully configured with email accounts, news, passwords etc

I copied this profile from old W7 to new W10 PC,
changed of profile with profile manager,
all is ok but only one thing : the size of the window is bigger : 
icons, fonts of menus etc

when I switch back to the default profile, the size is normal

both PC have the same screen resolution 1920x1080
(the laptop w7 is 14 inches, the desktop w10 screen is 24 inches)

I tried to do something with userChrome.css , it seems to do no change.
I tried to restart without modules, no change

I which if I knew what I could do now


If you want the window maximized, just click the Windows maximize button 
at top right and it'll fill your screen. SeaMonkey will remember the 
window size the next time you launch.


You can also specify that in the Windows shortcut: right-click the icon, 
choose "Properties," and where it says "Run," pull down the option 
"Maximized." OK out.




and if you don't want it maximised but simply differently-sized, pull at 
the edges.  Standard Windows (and Linux) behaviour.


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Re: Can I work with more than one email account with Seamonkey?

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Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

me wrote:


snip


This is a known bug. The easiest workaround, once the new news account 
has been created, is to delete it. You should then be able to create new 
mail and news accounts as desired. If not, post back.




After creating a news account through clicking a news URL, the MailNews 
account wizard may be broken (the account type will always be News). To 
work around the problem, set the mail.server.serverX.valid pref (where X 
is the internal number of the corresponding news account) to true in 
about:config, or delete the invalid news account (bug 521861).




I looked the bug up - 
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=521861 - and it is nine 
years old, dating back to Seamonkey 2.0.1.  This would seem to indicate 
that the problem was not imported from Thunderbird.


Amusingly, there is an interesting reference in comment 4:

BTW, in my case clicking in a news:// link didn't CREATE a fake news account; 
instead, MODIFIED one of my newsgroup accounts, renaming it and changing the 
From: e-mail address associated to it.


The concept of "Fake news accounts" is older than we thought.

Going back to the original question, I am having a problem with adding 
an imap account on my laptop (Windows 10, 2.49.3).  I already have 4 pop 
accounts and this news server set up there.
The password is being rejected, even though it is correct and all the 
other values agree with the ones the (Thunderbird) instructions specify.

Are there any "issues" with imap at present?

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Re: is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent folder and never received for the recipient!!!

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Alex Beauroy wrote:
is anyone performing mail successfully sent, with a copy in the sent 
folder and never received for the recipient!!!

It happened 10 times during the last 24 hours
Should I quit SeaMonkey and rely on Thunderbird now???
Best Regards
@lex


Are we talking one recipient for the 10 mails or multiple recipients?
If multiple recipients, are they all under one domain (for example 
wanadoo.fr)?


Normally I'd expect - in this case - wanadoo to tell you if the mails 
could not be delivered.  I suppose you could test that by mailing me on 
the address I'm faking here.
Oh, and you are really "online"?  The outgoing mails are not stuck in 
waiting-to-be-sent-when-you-go-online?


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Re: Is anyone else getting annoyed with SM being really slow on some web sites these days?

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WaltS48 wrote:

On 10/18/18 2:42 AM, Ant wrote:

Like LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.


Nope. I use Firefox Nightly ;)

Have you tried SOP for troubleshooting?


I also have Firefox ESR installed and the sites which are slow under SM 
are not any better under FF.  FF on my mobile phone is worse, even sites 
which are fast under SM are turgid there.
SM is not the problem, the internet is broken!  (ok, the overhead 
associated with https)



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Re: the unhinged mob

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Ronnie wrote:

apparently has invaded this list... ridiculous


NOT A NEW DEVELOPMENT!
He's been winding people up for years.  Ignore it, it won't go away but 
- short of sending "the lads" round - it's the best option.


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Re: Is anyone else getting annoyed with SM being really slow on some web sites these days?

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
I only notice the usual javascript bloat. Without Noscript and uBlock 
the web would be unusable for me these days.


I am mostly on 2.53 and it feels faster too but 2.49.4 is still ok for 
me. 2.57 should bring some further improvements.


FRG

Ant wrote:

Like LinkedIn, Twitter, etc.


https (which is becoming ubiquitous) carries more overhead than http so 
the cause may well be outside Semonkey.


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Re: Lightning!

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Hartmut Figge wrote:

Hartmut Figge:


├── [2.0M Jun 30  2015]  lightning-4.4a1.en-US.linux-x86_64.xpi


Hm. My SM has chosen us-ascii instead of utf-8 for unknown reasons.
Well, it too is a SM-Trunk. *g* So forget the garbage at the beginning
of the lines. No important information.

Hartmut



It's Simple Text in a Newsgroup.
We'd presumably all have to set our clients to utf-8 in order to 
interpret ├──, the two Euro question is: is it worth it?  Nope.



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Re: Cannot access google search engine

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rogihil...@gmail.com wrote:

On Monday, 14 May 2018 18:51:09 UTC+1, IRRITATING SPAMMER  wrote:

Lee wrote:

On 5/13/18, rogihil...@gmail.com <rogihil...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:17:38 UTC+1, chicagofan  wrote:

IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:



It appears that your problem is a serious danger to your data and you
need to fix it smartish.
- How did it get past your virus scanner in the first place?
- What router are you using?  Some of them are insecure.
As a temporary measure (you do need to fix this), try using something
like https://duckduckgo.com/ as a search engine. You can either call
it explicitly or change your settings to call it implicitly.



I've been using duckduckgo for several years with no problems. Can't
tell any difference from Google.  Mozilla reference caused the switch.
bj


No difference to this hijacker/virus when starting in safe mode. As soon as
google.com is entered it blocks with Capitcha questions which are never
satisfied. I use Kaspersky antivirus and Malwarebytes and Adwcleaner.
Nothing they found and cleaned has helped so far.


Safe mode doesn't reset your prefs.  Try it with a brand new profile.

Lee



My "research" on the subject indicated the problem could even be a
rootkit.  The fact that resetting the router helped for a few minutes
leads me to suspect that the problem may not even be on the PC.  That is
why I asked what the router was.

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I am using an HG635 super router from TalkTalk which I think is made by Huawei



(sorry, I've been busy)
https://www.cnet.com/news/expert-huawei-routers-are-riddled-with-vulnerabilities/# 
is rather discouraging and - quite honestly - unhelpful.  One would hope 
the company offer firmware updates, you might want to check for them.


https://modemly.com/Huawei-HG635-TalkTalk-router-setup is interesting. 
Ideally you would need a cable connection to update the configuration 
but that is obviously not the case here.  How many neighbours do you 
have, neighbours with wifi range?  Hacker neighbours.


http://resetrouter.info/router/Huawei/HG635-TalkTalk pretty much says 
the same things.  I'd glance at both before acting.


I would *not* Filter MAC Addresses or in particular, Disable Broadcast 
SSID.  I have had MAC address filtering turned on in the past and it is 
just too inconvenient.


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Re: How to set default reply behavior

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Jeffrey Needle wrote:

I'm really glad to have this newsgroup here.  I'm using SM 2.49.3 on a Linux 
Box.

I am part of several email discussion groups.  When I reply to an email, SM 
addresses the email just to the poster rather than the list.  I know I can 
Reply All, but that sends two copies to the original poster.  Is there a way to 
set the default behavior to Send to List?  Thanks.



If you use Google for this, try dropping it and accessing the Newsgroup 
directly.


My settings for the News Server (NNTP) account are:
Account Name: mozilla news
Your Name: is currently IRRITATING SPAMMER, it is not validated in any way.
Email Address: is not validated in any way
.
.
Outgoing Server (SMTP): is ignored.

Server Settings
*
Server Name: News.mozilla.org Port 119
no security

Composition & Addressing
*

I (and most people) check: "Automatically quote the original message 
when replying"

Then, "start my reply below the quote"

FRG is obviously not using that last setting.

Once you have the server set up, you can go to "Manage newsgroup 
subscriptions" and add this one and any others which meet your approval.



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Re: Cannot access google search engine

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Lee wrote:

On 5/13/18, rogihil...@gmail.com <rogihil...@gmail.com> wrote:

On Sunday, 13 May 2018 12:17:38 UTC+1, chicagofan  wrote:

IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:



It appears that your problem is a serious danger to your data and you
need to fix it smartish.
- How did it get past your virus scanner in the first place?
- What router are you using?  Some of them are insecure.
As a temporary measure (you do need to fix this), try using something
like https://duckduckgo.com/ as a search engine. You can either call
it explicitly or change your settings to call it implicitly.



I've been using duckduckgo for several years with no problems. Can't
tell any difference from Google.  Mozilla reference caused the switch.
bj


No difference to this hijacker/virus when starting in safe mode. As soon as
google.com is entered it blocks with Capitcha questions which are never
satisfied. I use Kaspersky antivirus and Malwarebytes and Adwcleaner.
Nothing they found and cleaned has helped so far.


Safe mode doesn't reset your prefs.  Try it with a brand new profile.

Lee



My "research" on the subject indicated the problem could even be a 
rootkit.  The fact that resetting the router helped for a few minutes 
leads me to suspect that the problem may not even be on the PC.  That is 
why I asked what the router was.


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Re: Cannot access google search engine

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rogihil...@gmail.com wrote:

On Friday, 11 May 2018 22:46:17 UTC+1, rogih...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Friday, 11 May 2018 22:44:27 UTC+1, rogih...@gmail.com  wrote:

On Friday, 11 May 2018 22:09:45 UTC+1, Paul in Houston, TX  wrote:

rogihil...@gmail.com wrote:

Anybody any clues on how to get rid of this virus. It blocks access to the 
google search engine, although it allows access to Bing. It started with 
version 2.48 today on startup. I have updated to 2.49 but it still appears. 
When one enters the google search engine url you get asked to identify various 
pictures to make sure you are not a robot. However, it is never satisfied with 
the answers and so you are excluded from accessing the search engine.
Any pointers to its eradication would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Roger
PS It does not affect Firefox or Edge browsers.


Sounds like a browser highjacker and not a virus.
Does starting SM with add-ons disabled make any difference?
Do you use a proxy?
What do adware scans like Malwarebytes, Adwcleaner, etc, show?


I used http://www.google.com and it is replaced by the url
http://ipv4.google.com/sorry/index?continue=http://www.google.com/%3Fhl%3Den=en=EgRZ8w_6GLCY2NcFIhkA8aeDSycOov1rnFpdManh62LuwUAjCHW7MgFy

running malwarebytes and adware did not remove it. However, switching off the 
router and turning it back on looked, at first, as though it had solved the 
problem but after a little time this plague reappeared.


I don't use a proxy. I'm about to check the addons.


On checking the web I see a topic called the Google redirect virus. Anybody 
ever dealt with it for the SM browser? Instructions are given for a number of 
other browsers but not specfically SM.



I have just looked at an awful tech-help site (it plays unwanted videos 
and moves to another page when I try to stop that) and they say:



In Firefox click the three horizontal bars near the top-right and choose 
Add-ons, or press Ctrl-Shift-A. Now click on Extensions in the left-hand menu 
and click Remove next to those you want to delete.


Seamonkey is closest to Firefox and you already know how to do the 
Seamonkey equivalent.  They also suggest checking your 'home' page but 
it does not look as though you have a problem there.


Another tech-site suggests installing various software from "untrusted" 
sources (it provides the links) to fix the problem, but I personally 
don't trust advice like that.
https://sensorstechforum.com/remove-google-redirect-virus/ might help, 
further down the page they have a Symantec download.


It appears that your problem is a serious danger to your data and you 
need to fix it smartish.

- How did it get past your virus scanner in the first place?
- What router are you using?  Some of them are insecure.
As a temporary measure (you do need to fix this), try using something 
like https://duckduckgo.com/ as a search engine.  You can either call it 
explicitly or change your settings to call it implicitly.



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Re: Cannot access google search engine

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rogihil...@gmail.com wrote:

Anybody any clues on how to get rid of this virus. It blocks access to the 
google search engine, although it allows access to Bing. It started with 
version 2.48 today on startup. I have updated to 2.49 but it still appears. 
When one enters the google search engine url you get asked to identify various 
pictures to make sure you are not a robot. However, it is never satisfied with 
the answers and so you are excluded from accessing the search engine.
Any pointers to its eradication would be much appreciated.
Thanks
Roger
PS It does not affect Firefox or Edge browsers.



Could you show us the exact url you use for Google?  I have never heard 
of this problem.  I suppose this could be a cookie problem, or you have 
some wacky extension.



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Re: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file

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Galen Thurber wrote:

On Monday, 30 April 2018 12:05:19 UTC-3, Felix Miata  wrote:

Galen Thurber composed on 2018-04-30 07:38 (UTC-0700):


./seamonkey
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/west/seamonkey/libmozgtk.so:
libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.
I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit
gtk3 is installed



Any ideas?


Is this your first attempt to use SeaMonkey? Where did you get it from,
mozilla.org? Is it the 64 bit version? 14.04 didn't ship with GTK3 originally,
so you may need to install a newer version from backports. That error message is
a common one in web searches. Maybe
 applies to you.
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I downloaded from Mozilla.
I've used Seamonkey for many years, since it can out
I have just tried Ubuntuzilla package
https://sourceforge.net/projects/ubuntuzilla/
seamonkey-mozilla-build_2.49.2-0ubuntu1_amd64.deb
but it creates the following errors.
Breaks existing package 'hunspell-en-ca that conflict: 'iceweasel' ...

Note I must use firefox-esr



Debian called Seamonkey "Iceweasel" for a while.
Was there any reason you did not follow my suggestions from 30 April?

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Re: libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file

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Galen Thurber wrote:

./seamonkey
XPCOMGlueLoad error for file /home/west/seamonkey/libmozgtk.so:
libgtk-3.so.0: cannot open shared object file: No such file or directory
Couldn't load XPCOM.


I'm running Xubuntu 14.04 LTS 64bit
gtk3 is installed

Any ideas?



On this system, that is a symbolic link to libgtk-3.so.0.2000.10 (under 
usr/lib64).  That file belongs to libgtk-3-0.

What I'd do is
1 - make sure that package is installed
2 - check that the target (or an equivalent) is installed
3 - if everything else is ok, add the symbolic link yourself.  Obviously 
you have to be su or root.


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Re: google maps

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Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:

You might need to use a generic Firefox UA to use google. This is now
broken for over a year and has been reported by various users. Google
doesn't care.

2.49.3 is almost ready. Got delayed because of a hardware problem with
the last macOS builder. Should show up next week at the latest. Build is
in post-processing and for all I know the final. Just mop up and moving
it now:

https://archive.mozilla.org/pub/seamonkey/candidates/2.49.3-candidates/build2/


FRG


Yamo' wrote:

Hi,

Smiles a écrit le 26/04/2018 à 21:10 :

google maps no longer likes SeaMonkey what changes do I do change to
view a map

thanks



May you can update Seamonkey, the latest is 2.49.2 :




I use Google Maps frequently on this machine and do not play around with 
user-agents at all.  No problems as of about 15 minutes ago.


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Re: SeaMonkey on Windows XP

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Ray_Net wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote on 22-04-18 08:04:

Paul in Houston, TX wrote:


Thank you, Fred.  So the panda cams work on every system in the
world except Windows XP!


I have w7/32 and (2) w7/64 comps, with FF, Seamonkey and IE11.
None of the vids on that site work on any of my browsers or o/s's.


WFM on Win7/64 Pro SP1, SM 2.49.2.


The OP need a test with WINDOWS XP ! :-)
Nobody on this group is still on windows XP ?


I have a Windows XP machine but it is pretty stripped down and videos 
don't play at all under Seamonkey.  Not much help.
"Stripped down" means that I removed all software which could be used as 
an attack vector.  No Flash, Java, all sorts of stuff.



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Re: National Zoo Panda Cams

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xxyyz wrote:

On 2018-04-16 10:45 PM, xxyyz wrote:

SM 2.49.2,  WXP - what do I need to change and/or add to get
the Smithsonian panda cams at
  http://nationalzoo.si.edu/Animals/WebCams/giant-panda.cfm
to play?



Thank you to all who replied - but none were on XP.

Is there anyone out there running SeaMonkey on
Windows XP?  If so, I would be grateful if they
would try the panda cams link and post the result.


No-one has commented on the

WEBCAM VIEWERS: The Zoo's webcams have a new video player! Please note that the 
new player may not be compatible with older versions of Internet Explorer.


I'm assuming that Seamonkey alone is not enough, some "Helper App" is 
necessary and the one provided by Win XP is simply too ancient.  I 
looked at the page source but could not understand what the f*** was 
going on.
If we knew exactly which capability was required, it would maybe be 
possible to find - say - a video player which would work under XP and to 
configure XP to use it.  I'd test that one on a new profile though, it 
could break other sites.


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Re: Website Blocked?

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Tom Pamin wrote:

Why do I get an "Access To Website Blocked" message for this site:
www.hayneedle.com



I believe I have seen www.hayneedle.com before, and it can only really 
have been because it was mentioned in a thread here.  Since I cannot now 
find the thread, the only sure way of finding it would be to download 
the body of all messages (below a certain size) and I'm not about to do 
that when there are over 100 000 of them.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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Lemuel Johnson wrote:

On 4/9/2018 2:31 PM, Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

If you toggle the pref to disallow unauthenticated content from being
displayed, do the images disappear?

Edit | Preferences | Privacy & Security | SSL/TLS
[ ] Don't load insecure content on encrypted pages


Unchecked that box, still have images.

It may be significant that the page is served from
https://us2.campaign-archive.com and the images are hosted at
https://gallery.mailchimp.com.  I have "Load All Images" selected in the
preferences permissions.

lj


To the right of that "Load All Images" button is the "Manage 
Permissions" one.  All of my permissions are cookies-related, do you 
have anything weird for either of those two domains involved?  Clutching 
at straws here.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:

Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc


The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?


What you might want to try is:
Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins
You could enable plugins for Mail & Newsgroups there.

Not something I'd ever want to do myself but ymmv.



I'll retract that, I had thought you wanted to display the images 
directly in the mail and not in the browser.  Fwiw, my browser shows the 
images.


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Re: Missing E-Mail Images

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Cecil Bankston wrote:

Some of the commercial, non-spam messages I receive do not display their
included images.  I have preferences set to show all images, and the
block images box is not checked.  An example of this is messages I
receive from this address: cornellbi...@cornell.edu.  A "View it in your
browser" link in one of these messages points to this page:
https://us2.campaign-archive.com/?u=b35ddb671faf4a16c0ce32406=46308dfd2a=99f36663cc

The images on that page do not display in my SeaMonkey browser but do
appear in Microsoft Edge.  I use NoScript, but it is not blocking any
scripts on that page.

Is some other setting required to allow display of the images in these
messages?


What you might want to try is:
Advanced -> Scripts & Plugins
You could enable plugins for Mail & Newsgroups there.

Not something I'd ever want to do myself but ymmv.

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Re: SM video problems continue - will they ever end!?

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null wrote:

IRRITATING SPAMMER wrote:

null wrote:

Have had increasing problems playing video in SM for a long time now.
Getting the latest SM version doesn't help. Seems it all stems from
ongoing, behind-the-scenes jostling between flashplayer, WEBM and the
HTML5 player. Currently I can't play anything on Facebook or Instagram,
and many news sites have video that won't play. The latest nonsense on
many news sites is a message saying "This video could not be loaded -
crossdomain access denied". No idea exactly what that implies.

Are other SM users having these sort of problems?


I was googling around and found something for
"Cannot load M3U8: crossdomain access denied"
(not that the solution made sense to me) so I have to ask: did you
change the error-message before posting it here?


I think that "M3U8" was part of it, at least on some occasions, but the
key part is the reference to "crossdomain access".

Some of the people who had that error were using something called PleX
and had to change a setting, this seemed to be independent of the
actual browser used.





If you saw M3U8, that appears to be just as important as the 
"crossdomain access denied".  Google the entire string above - including 
the double quotes - and see what applies.


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Re: SM video problems continue - will they ever end!?

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null wrote:

Have had increasing problems playing video in SM for a long time now.
Getting the latest SM version doesn't help. Seems it all stems from
ongoing, behind-the-scenes jostling between flashplayer, WEBM and the
HTML5 player. Currently I can't play anything on Facebook or Instagram,
and many news sites have video that won't play. The latest nonsense on
many news sites is a message saying "This video could not be loaded -
crossdomain access denied". No idea exactly what that implies.

Are other SM users having these sort of problems?


I was googling around and found something for
"Cannot load M3U8: crossdomain access denied"
(not that the solution made sense to me) so I have to ask: did you 
change the error-message before posting it here?


Some of the people who had that error were using something called PleX 
and had to change a setting, this seemed to be independent of the actual 
browser used.


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Re: Awful memory leaks

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Mason83 wrote:

Hello,

There is, as far as I can see, a large memory leak somewhere
in the TB code:

2,790,110,536 B (100.0%) -- explicit
+--2,359,661,280 B (84.57%) -- maildb
¦  +737,522,464 B (26.43%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +692,232,288 B (24.81%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +222,021,472 B (07.96%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +180,562,496 B (06.47%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +138,690,496 B (04.97%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +121,302,864 B (04.35%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-96,929,744 B (03.47%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-48,629,440 B (01.74%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +-42,458,432 B (01.52%) -- database(snews://SNIP
¦  +-24,473,008 B (00.88%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +-21,606,800 B (00.77%) -- database(news://SNIP
¦  +-10,834,000 B (00.39%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--5,589,824 B (00.20%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--4,862,032 B (00.17%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--3,337,296 B (00.12%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--2,627,888 B (00.09%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +--1,382,832 B (00.05%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +786,896 B (00.03%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +786,128 B (00.03%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +674,128 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +503,184 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +481,776 B (00.02%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +341,904 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +240,256 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +166,416 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +164,352 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +143,680 B (00.01%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +103,104 B (00.00%) -- database(imap://SNIP
¦  +103,104 B (00.00%) -- database(mailbox://SNIP
¦  +102,976 B (00.00%) -- database(imap://SNIP


737 MB of RAM to store the index of a single newsgroup?
And 692 MB for my main inbox? Something looks fishy there.


   76 B ── gfx-surface-image
  768 B ── gfx-surface-xlib
0 B ── gfx-textures
0 B ── gfx-textures-peak
0 B ── gfx-tiles-waste
  0 ── ghost-windows
2,112,485,288 B ── heap-allocated
1,048,576 B ── heap-chunksize
2,320,498,688 B ── heap-mapped
  0 ── host-object-urls
   24,929,212 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-locked
   24,930,812 B ── imagelib-surface-cache-estimated-total
  0 ── imagelib-surface-cache-overflow-count
5,087,232 B ── js-main-runtime-temporary-peak
 25,966 ── page-faults-hard
386,639,447 ── page-faults-soft
2,847,887,360 B ── resident
3,155,869,696 B ── resident-peak
2,574,921,728 B ── resident-unique
0 B ── system-heap-allocated
5,839,982,592 B ── vsize


5.8 GB of VM for a few tabs open sounds completely unreasonable.

Is there any work around other than quitting/restarting SM?

Regards.



My "explicit" is 522.23 MB
maildb is121.81 MB
window-objects97.85 MB
heap-unclassified 95.55 MB
js-non-window 65.23 MB

Both of us are using Linux.
Does it help a bit if you close and reopen the News/Mail part of Seamonkey?
I also don't understand why your figures are in Bytes and mine in MB.


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