Re: Chase Bank doesn't like SeaMonkey

2016-08-29 Thread Philip Chee
On 30/06/2016 02:13, Mark B wrote:
> J. Weaver Jr. wrote:
>> Mark B wrote:

>> Solved that problem here by adding this preference to "about:config":
>>
>>  general.useragent.override.chase.com
>>
>> (type "string") with the following value:
>>
>>  Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:43.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/43.0

>> Yes, it'll have to be updated manually as SM advances, but WORKS4ME. -JW
> 
> Thanks for that.  It does work, but a PITA to remember every time SM 
> updates.

As well as a normal string I think you can use a REGEXP (regular
expression) to remove the SeaMonkey part of the string e.g. something
like s/SeaMonkey\/d+\ but I don't know if it accepts all regexp or only
a simplified version.

Regular Expressions:
>
https://developer.mozilla.org/en/docs/Web/JavaScript/Reference/Global_Objects/RegExp

One of these bugs may tell you what the substitution code actually does:

>
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?query_format=advanced_id=13189419_desc=user%20agent%20override_desc_type=allwordssubstr

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Re: SM IN SAFE MODE

2016-06-01 Thread Philip Chee
On 01/06/2016 20:11, rjkrjk wrote:
> started up sm 2.4 this am, was informed that it's running in safe mode 

> the only thing diiferent, as of yesterday was that
> I added an add on , didnt like it and removed it

> how do I get SM back to running in"normal" mode

If you hold down the SHIFT key while starting SeaMonkey (or Firefox) the
application starts in safe mode.

Perhaps you have a sTUCK sHIFT kEY?

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Re: less secure apps

2016-04-16 Thread Philip Chee
On 16/04/2016 16:33, Stanimir Stamenkov wrote:

> I've tried changing the Server Settings / Authentication method of 
> my Gmail account (in SeaMonkey) to "OAuth2", and the first time I've 
> tried to open the Inbox I've been presented with a web form (in a 
> new window) to log in.  Then I've been able to use my account from 
> SeaMonkey just like before, even when I've set my Google account to 
> not allow "less secure apps".
> 
> This appears o.k. but then I've found I'm not able to do the same 
> with my company account, which is also provided by Google but using 
> a dedicated domain name (the company domain).  For some reason my 
> username in the OAuth2 login form is always changed to 
> @gmail.com, rather than using @ 
> which appears to break the whole thing.  It's interesting that a 
> colleague of mine using Thunderbird doesn't experience the same, and 
> is now using OAuth2 for accessing his company account from withing 
> Thunderbird.

The Oauth2 code is 100% shared with Thunderbird. It's also 100% written
by the Thunderbird developers, so everything should work identically. It
might be down to the settings made by the admin of your company Google
account.

Intresting tidbit: During development, Several Thunderbird developers
wanted to their Oauth2 option to be labelled "less secure Google
authentication".

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Re: Tbird vs SM

2016-04-14 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/04/2016 09:34, Ed Mullen wrote:
> I know SM is derived from Firefox and Thunderbird.

Actually all three are descended from the old Mozilla Suite (a.k.a.
Netscape Communicator v6). SeaMonkey is a direct descendant in terms of
continuity.

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Re: Report web forgery doesn't work on SM 2.40

2016-03-11 Thread Philip Chee
On 12/03/2016 03:02, EE wrote:

> Is there no version between 2.40 and 2.44?  What about 2.41?

1. At the moment 2.45 is what we call nightly (or daily for Thunderbird)
Really bleeding edge.

2. 2.44 is Aurora (Think if this as an Alpha build)

3. 2.43 is Beta.

4. 2.42 under normal circumstances this would be a release build which
our users can update to.

5. However our release process uses Mozilla servers and infrastructure
and Mozilla recently moved their infra to Amazon Web Services and we (or
rather ewong) had to find out the new way to upload releases to Amazon
S3. We actually had 2.40 release builds ready for some time.

5a. By the way, anyone reading this has experience using and managing
AWS/S3?

6. Splints have been removed, so Ewong can now type with both hands
again! So he's been attacking our backlog of stuff that needs to be done.

7. I'm not sure if we are going to do a 2.41 or skip it and move to 2.42
but modulo mozilla-central breaking our builds again it looks like we're
back on track.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.40?

2016-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 14/01/2016 21:40, Ant wrote:
>>>> ewongMc I'm currently stalled on getting 2.40 released..
>>>> I'm very sorry.
>>>> 
>>>> <http://logs.glob.uno/?c=mozilla%23seamonkey=28+Dec+2015=28+Dec+2015#c657941>
>>>
>>>
>>>> 
Bummer. :(
>> 
>> Lets all wish ewong a speedy recovery and thank him for all the
>> work he's done in the past to keep Seamonkey up and running... i
>> just love using Seamonkey...
> 
> Ditto. Wait, what happened to him? Did I miss something?

Accident happened (not life threatening). He's out of hospital but his
arm is in a splint which means typing is really hard.

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Re: Emojicons support?

2016-01-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 06/01/2016 14:49, Daniel wrote:
> On 6/01/2016 4:10 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>> On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:
>> 
>>> My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am
>>> I missing?
>> 
>> Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe
>> UI Symbol. They will show up automatically.
>> 
>> Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in 
>> recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with
>> an image stored in the current theme.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> Phil, could it be that emoji are single character symbols, whereas 
> emoticon are multi-characters combinations which produce a symbol??

Emoticons are multi ASCII character combinations. Some Mail User Agents
(Like SeaMonkey) can recognize these and replace them with graphics. The
list of strings the MailNews code (shared with Thunderbird) is hard
coded and can't be extended - without fiddling with the code.

Emoji support just involves installing a font that has support for the
Unicode code points that are mapped to emoji. For example
Segoe-UI-Symbol or Symbola. As far as the Mail User Agent is concerned
emoji are just UTF-8 characters. Support for newer emoji involves just
installing a newer version of the font to the OS.

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Re: page setup - mozilla.support.seamonkey

2016-01-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 06/01/2016 14:56, Daniel wrote:
> On 6/01/2016 9:37 AM, Bonnell Frost wrote:
>>
>> My SeaMonkey files under C:..user/bfrost/add-data...ljkcbwx vanished,
>> but I restored using acronis TI  2016.
>> However, the text line when I start seamonkey ; does not have window,
>> help, tools, etc. Some of this stuff I need.
>> How can I get this corrected?  "support.seamonkey"  lets me enter a
>> request for access, but I am refused.
>> Bonnell Frost
> 
> Bonnell, over on the top left of your screen (where you expect "File" to 
> be), is there a little, horizontal, rectangle with a triangle and dots 
> on it?? If so, try clicking on it so that it goes vertical.

In newer SeaMonkeys, tapping the ALT key should reveal the menu toolbar
- assuming it is set to autohide.

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Re: Emojicons support?

2016-01-05 Thread Philip Chee
On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:

> My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am I missing?

Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe UI
Symbol. They will show up automatically.

Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in
recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with an
image stored in the current theme.

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Re: A database (relational OR flat file) of bookmarks

2015-11-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 27/11/2015 01:40, Ant wrote:
> On 11/26/2015 7:06 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
> 
>>>> I believe bookmarks are stored in places.sqlite, so the extension
>>>> would show you the bookmarks in a database format.
>>
>>> Of course bookmark files I don't want are in files named book*.*
>>> while those I want are in places.*  ;{
>>> That simplifies things as I have an unrelated project using sqlite.
>>> Thank you.
>>
>> Places.sqlite contains: bookmarks, tags, history, annotations, a cache
>> of website favicons, and a few miscellaneous items.
> 
> I wished places.sqlite didn't keep everything. Yes, I know 
> bookmarks.html can exist but still. :(

It doesn't keep the kitchen sink[1] - yet.

[1] Bug 122411 - (kitchensink) Mozilla does not have a kitchen sink
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=122411
WONTFIX

https://bug122411.bmoattachments.org/attachment.cgi?id=114919
http://www-archive.mozilla.org/docs/web-developer/samples/kitchensink.xml

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Re: A database (relational OR flat file) of bookmarks

2015-11-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 25/11/2015 04:22, Richard Owlett wrote:

>> I believe bookmarks are stored in places.sqlite, so the extension
>> would show you the bookmarks in a database format.

> Of course bookmark files I don't want are in files named book*.* 
> while those I want are in places.*  ;{
> That simplifies things as I have an unrelated project using sqlite.
> Thank you.

Places.sqlite contains: bookmarks, tags, history, annotations, a cache
of website favicons, and a few miscellaneous items.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.39b1 released

2015-11-06 Thread Philip Chee
On 07/11/2015 07:02, Frank-Rainer Grahl wrote:
> Could you check Bug 1188348 part 2 patch and one of the patches in
> Bug 1208971 for including them in 2.39. 1208971 has a work around but
> the data manager is still partially broken without the second patch
> in 1188348. It still has a problem even with this one but this might
> be a different problem in the Observer code.

1. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1208971#attach_8681690
The patch here adds some tabs to the source code. Please use spaces instead.

2. Setting the review flag alone is not enough. You have to set the
review flag to a reviewer (more than one is also possible).

So set the reviewer field to Neil@parkway

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Re: Security Update to SeaMonkey?

2015-11-06 Thread Philip Chee
On 05/11/2015 16:39, Daniel wrote:

> No sooner had I started using it (last night) than I read that Edward 
> Wong is/was spinning up release versions of SM2.39, so, maybe, the Devs 
> have anticipated this situation. :-)

Our ewong is Edmund Wong. Edwin Wong and Edward Wong are other people
(Edwin works for Mozilla).

Wong is a very common family name in Chinese, like John Smith in
Anglophone countries.

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Re: Emojicons support?

2015-10-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/10/2015 14:35, Ray_Net wrote:
> Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:
>> On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
>>> user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
>>> automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
>>> Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
>>> ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
>>> for them.
>>
>> So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
>> future versions? :/
> Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?

I believe that emoji support is already present in Core code. What else
is needed is a suitable emoji font available from the Operating System.
On certain platforms that support colour emoji we also can also display
that.

http://blog.symbolset.com/multicolor-fonts
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/


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Re: Each time I upgrade SM I got a new bug !!!

2015-09-30 Thread Philip Chee
On 30/09/2015 23:53, Ray_Net wrote:
> I just upgraded from SM 2.32 to SM 2.38.
> 
> I have, as always, installed the French dictionary for spelling
> purposes Some times in SM 2.32 I complained because the Spelling
> language switch by itself to English - But this occurred rarely.
> Habitually when i switch to French, next time french spelling is
> positioned, if a switch to English, next time English spelling is
> positioned. THAT WAS PERFECT.
> 
> NOW with SM 2.38 i can switch to french, next time English is ALWAYS
>  positioned.
> 
> What should i do to permit SM spelling choice working as before ? (in
>  other words maintaining my choice)

Do not despair. Recently JorgK has been fixing spelling/dictionary bugs.

> https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=12582314=FIXED=exact_to1=1_format=advanced=mozilla%40jorgk.com

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Re: Color Preferences

2015-09-28 Thread Philip Chee
On 28/09/2015 06:55, David E. Ross wrote:
> What do the different settings of the preference variable
> browser.display.document_color_use mean?  This variable is not
> documented at <http://kb.mozillazine.org/About:config_entries>.
> 
> Cross-posted to mozilla.dev.apps.seamonkey and mozilla.support.seamonkey
> Followup-To:  mozilla.support.seamonkey

Bug 639134 changed boolean "browser.display.use_document_colors" to
tristate "browser.display.document_color_use"
https://lists.mozilla.org/pipermail/dev-platform/2014-December/007851.html

Bug 639134 - "Allow pages to choose their own colors" does not work with
high contrast windows themes
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=639134

Bug 1118032 - In Bug 639134 the word "Automatic" does not convey any
information on what the choice actually does.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1118032

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Re: 2.38 default tab closing

2015-09-28 Thread Philip Chee
On 28/09/2015 08:14, Roger Fink wrote:
> In my installation of SeaMonkey 2.35 the default about:config preference 
> "browser.tabs.closeButtons" is set to 3, which removes the close button 
> from the individual tabs and places one close button at the far 
> right-hand side of the tab row. This is exactly what I want.
> 
> In 2.38, the default setting is the same, but now there are no close 
> buttons at all. I can close an individual tab using the tab context menu 
> - not the end of the world, but not my preference either, so I'm back to 
> 2.35.
> 
> How can I restore the original behavior in 2.38?
> 
> Note: I'm not sure this is relevant, but in case it is, my bookmarks 
> sidebar appears on the right hand side. This is done via userChrome.css, 
> not the X-sidebar extension.

You have an extension that does this. Probably Sea-tab or a similar
extension. Try reinstalling it.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.38 Add-ons Manager: Boo-hoo!

2015-09-27 Thread Philip Chee
On 27/09/2015 12:07, David E. Ross wrote:
> Windows 7 Ultimate SP1 (x64) Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64;
> rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38
> 
> I just now installed SeaMonkey 2.38. When I view the lists of 
> extensions or themes via the Add-ons Manager, the version numbers no 
> longer are displayed. I can get them one-at-a-time by selecting the 
> More link for each; but this does not give me a view of all of them
> at once.  One developer asserted that selecting [Tools >
> Troubleshooting Information] from the menu bar provides the
> all-at-once listing of extension version numbers; however, that does
> not provide the version numbers of any themes.  (Actually, the
> developer's comment was expressed in terms of Firefox and involves
> requesting about:support.)
> 
> Bug #1175324 was already submitted and then marked as Closed/WontFix
> by the developers, who assert that users did not want version numbers
> all together.  Several users (including me) commented in that bug
> report that the developers really do not know what users really want.
> I marked the bug report Reopened and noted the lack of any bug report
> requesting the removal of version numbers, which indicates bad
> configuration management practices.  See 
> <https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1175324>.
> 
> Fortunately, PrefBar's InfoList button does supply the version
> numbers all at once and also links to the extensions' Web sites.

There is also:
https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/amversionnumber/

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Re: Expired cert for inline update

2015-09-11 Thread Philip Chee
On 11/09/2015 22:54, Mason83 wrote:
> Hello everyone,
> 
> (I know I can download the installer manually and update using that.)
> 
> Does anyone one know why the inline update process is failing?
> When I select "Check for Updates..." I get this error box:
> 
> Update failed
> 
> "Server certificate has expired (please adjust your system clock
> to the correct date and time if it is incorrect)"

Callek said:
[quote]
"I just swapped out the expired cert on our update server, for the new
cert, but this means that any seamonkey prior to  won't be able
to update :/
(also wouldnt have been able to as of today anyway, due to )"
[end quote]

You will have to download a newer version and install manually.

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Re: Cache in 2.35?

2015-09-11 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/09/2015 18:27, Tom Pamin wrote:
> Is cache once again handled differently in 2.35? Instaed of cache2, is 
> it back to using just the cache folder? I also have a cache.trash4895 
> folder now too?

Yes we switched back to the old cache code. You can delete everything in
/cache2/ directory now.

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Re: SM 2.35 experience

2015-09-11 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/09/2015 00:58, David H. Durgee wrote:

> 3) for some reason toolbars are being rendered with pictures and text 
> regardless of the setting in preferences-appearances.  This is with the 
> Little Monkey 2.0.27 theme.  I normally use pictures only to save space.

Possibly you need a newer Little Monkey. Try switching to the default
theme to see if this also occurs there.

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Re: News Videos Loading

2015-09-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 06/09/2015 01:56, Brian Mailman wrote:

> Just audio indicators would be a great help to keep from chasing down 
> which tab is playing what.

Bug 1199989 - Add Tab Audio Indicator to SeaMonkey
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1199989

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Re: converter built in?

2015-09-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 06/09/2015 23:39, Ronnie wrote:
> I was wondering if anyone else thinks it may be a good idea to
> incorporate the seamonkey addon converter directly into seamonkey itself.
> 
> Currently when searching for seamonkey addons, if one isn't available it
> will default to firefox addon search, without knowing about the
> converter, it seems to make little sense or be little help to the user
> as they won't be able to install the addon.
> 
> If built in a dialog could pop up with the same warning message that is
> on the converter page, it would then convert it and popup up the option
> to install.
> 
> Just a thought.
> 
> http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

We don't plan to incorporate the seamonkey addon converter directly into
seamonkey itself.

What has been discussed is to add links to the addon converter webpage
using some sort of greasemonkey style script. For example when browsing
addons.mozilla.org we could add a button that offers to convert a
firefox extension.

SeaMonkey developers are a very small team. If there are any
Greasemonkey experts reading this, please help make a PoC (proof of
concept) script.

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Re: 2.35 update

2015-08-30 Thread Philip Chee
On 30/08/2015 03:24, EE wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 On 29/08/2015 02:20, EE wrote:

 I am using build 3 already.  I noticed that it is much smaller than the
 Tinderbox build (which was over 90 MB).  Why the difference in size?

 90MB sounds like you downloaded the zip that also contains the tests.


 For Mac OS, the file is a .dmg.  What tests?  The file content does not 
 look any different from that of any other .dmg file.

The .dmg is a fat binary containing both the 32bit and 64bit builds

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Re: 2.35 update

2015-08-29 Thread Philip Chee
On 29/08/2015 02:20, EE wrote:

 I am using build 3 already.  I noticed that it is much smaller than the 
 Tinderbox build (which was over 90 MB).  Why the difference in size?

90MB sounds like you downloaded the zip that also contains the tests.


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Added tag SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE for changeset e6dcddf50595. CLOSED TREE a=release SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH

2015-08-21 Thread Philip Chee
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-release/rev/ab1df175fbc9

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ 20150807 Win32 builds ready for testing

2015-08-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 12/08/2015 13:02, Dave Yeo wrote:
 Philip Chee wrote:
 Latest SeaMonkey 2.35γ contributed builds are now up on
 http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/
 
 Which source/trees are you building these from?
 Dave

comm-release+SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH
mozilla-esr38+SEAMONKEY_2_35_RELEASE_BRANCH

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ 20150807 Win32 builds ready for testing

2015-08-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 08/08/2015 18:05, Daniel wrote:

 Phil, are these win32 builds suitable for WOW64 type 32 bits??

They run fine on my x64 Windows7

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Re: sync problems

2015-08-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 08/08/2015 05:54, George wrote:
 
 Anyone else having problems with SeaMonkey Sync?
 
 Just continues to crank with message:
 Sync encountered an error while syncing:  Unknown error.
 Sync will automatically retry this action.
 
 Never seems to complete.
 
 George
 
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) Gecko/20100101 
 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35
 
 SeaMonkey 2.35y release 8/7/2015

The Sync 1.1 servers are shutting down. Whether SeaMonkey is going to be
allowed to use the Sync 1.5 (FxA) servers is currently a political football.

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SeaMonkey 2.35γ 20150807 Win32 builds ready for testing

2015-08-07 Thread Philip Chee
Latest SeaMonkey 2.35γ contributed builds are now up on
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150807.txt 07-Aug-2015 08:25   869
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150807.zip 07-Aug-2015 08:1741M
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32.installer-20150807.txt 07-Aug-2015 08:24 869
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32.installer-20150807.exe 07-Aug-2015 08:19  33M

These builds include the latest security fixes like Mozilla Foundation
Security Advisory 2015-78.
SeaMonkey and Thunderbird do not ship the Firefox builtin PDF reader so
we are not affected by this. However there are other security and crash
fixes so do please help test these latest builds.

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Re: Speaking of brain-dead browser sniffing...

2015-08-06 Thread Philip Chee
On 06/08/2015 03:51, NFN Smith wrote:
 An unexpected source: addons.mozilla.org
 
 I keep a fairly substantial collection of downloaded software that I use 
 for troubleshooting purposes, which allows me to work on a computer 
 almost entirely off-line, when necessary.
 
 I have quite a bit of Mozilla stuff in my collection, including 
 extensions for Firefox, Thunderbird and Seamonkey.  My habit is that 
 periodically, I go to addons.mozilla.org, and download copies of 
 extensions for all three. I normally right-click on the offered 
 download, and select save link target as, as I want XPI files with the 
 full name of the extension and the version.  For this, what I'm doing is 
 longer term storage, that I expect to use more than once, rather than 
 just grab something, install it, and discard the download, when the 
 installation is complete.
 
 I use Seamonkey as my normal browser, and I notice that in the Firefox 
 sections of AMO, that the the download button is now being overlaid with 
 a button titled Only with Firefox! Get Firefox Now!, which resolves to 
 a link to the Firefox downloads page. And this is happening even for 
 extensions that explicitly support Seamonkey.
 
 I can get around the problem easily enough by spoofing Firefox (and I 
 already spoof the platform for downloading extensions that have 
 Mac-specific versions), or going to the equivalent Seamonkey page, for 
 extensions that have Seamonkey support.
 
 But I never would have expected that I would have had to resort to 
 spoofing on pages at mozilla.org.

I believe it was discussed in #amo and a fix for not just SeaMonkey but
for all the other Firefox forks (like Ice Weasel, Pale Moon, etc) is in
the works.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

2015-07-23 Thread Philip Chee
On 24/07/2015 07:15, David E. Ross wrote:

 Much more important, all my passwords disappeared.  Before trying to
 login to any Web site, I disabled the Remember Passwords extension,
 terminated SeaMonkey, and then relaunched SeaMonkey.  Per the Password
 Exporter extension, my list of passwords was blank.
.
 However, I still got the crash on the first launching of each profile.
 This is NOT a significant problem since the crash does not repeat on
 subsequent launches; it is merely annoying (and possibly alarming for
 some users).

Thanks for the feedback!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available. = Whoops

2015-07-23 Thread Philip Chee
On 23/07/2015 09:01, W3BNR wrote:

 Downloaded seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150722.zip
 installed and clicking on HELP/ABOUT shows version 2.33.1

 Sorry, not true - my fault - Had two directory screens open and opened the
 wrong seamonkey.  I apologize.
Phew!

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

2015-07-23 Thread Philip Chee
On 23/07/2015 08:18, W3BNR wrote:

 Downloaded seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150722.zip
 installed and clicking on HELP/ABOUT shows version 2.33.1
??!!!???!!!?!!?!!?!!!??

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SeaMonkey 2.35γ Latest Win32 build now available.

2015-07-22 Thread Philip Chee
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

ZIP archive:
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150722.txt
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32-20150722.zip

Installer:
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32.installer-20150722.txt
seamonkey-2.35.en-US.win32.installer-20150722.exe

(The .txt files contain the file hashes)

These builds are close to release and contain all the patches from:

* Bug 1177041 - (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to
comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35
* Bug 1185824 - (SM2.35-mozilla-esr38-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be
uplifted to mozilla-esr38 relbranch for SeaMonkey 2.35

Please take these out for a test drive and let us know of any problems
you encounter.

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Re: SM 2.36 will not start without libmozalloc.dylib

2015-07-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/07/2015 05:14, EE wrote:
 Adrian Kalla wrote:
 W dniu 07/07/2015 o 10:53 PM, EE pisze:
 I decided to try SeaMonkey 2.36 on my Mac from Tinderbox builds
 on the Moz FTP site, and it would not start.  I compared the
 contents of the app package of 2.36 with 2.35 and found that in
 the MacOS folder, libmozalloc.dylib is missing in SM 2.36.  When
 I copied that file from SM 2.35 to 2.36, it would start.  Why is
 that file missing from a build which is available from a download
 site?  Why include a build that will not start up because
 something is missing?
 
 See: https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1176599
 
 Why could the builders not just add libmozalloc.dylib into the app 
 package for the Mac version?

That's what we are doing!
http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/comm-release/rev/e4c53c8c6395

 The normal SeaMonkey build 2.33.1 does not have any file with the
 name IA2Marshal.  Is 2.36 supposed to have that as a new addition?

No it is not supposed to have that file. See:

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1181513#c4

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Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 08/07/2015 14:42, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
 I just had a quick look at the URL you gave and it refers to an
 upcoming Seamonkey version 2.35 that is based on Firefox 38.  In
 yesterday's emails also came the newsletter from US-CERT which
 states:
 
 Original release date: July 07, 2015
 
 Mozilla has released security updates to address vulnerabilities in 
 Firefox, Firefox ESR, and Thunderbird. Exploitation of one of these 
 vulnerabilities may allow an attacker to take control of an affected 
 system.
 
 Available updates include:
 
 * Firefox 39 * Firefox ESR 38.1 * Thunderbird 38.1

 Will the 2.35 Seamonkey release incorporate the same updates?

Our current plan is to build SeaMonkey 2.35 based on mozilla-esr38
(currently at ESR 38.1). In theory this means that we should have all
the security fixes that Firefox ESR 38.1 and Thunderbird 38.1 have.

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Re: How dead is SeaMonkey?

2015-07-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 07/07/2015 14:43, Ed Mullen wrote:
 I've seen several sort of oblique mentions here of the lack of 
 development of SM.  Also, haven't seen an update in a while.  So, I'm 
 beginning to feel that I'm nearing the point where I cannot any longer 
 stick with SM.
 
 Kind of sad since I've been with it since Netscape back in, about, 1995. 
   I don't have any aversion to an end of an era but it would be nice 
 to get some definitive info on what the few remaining SM devs are doing 
 or have in mind.
 
 Thoughts?

Bug 1177041 - (SM2.35-Uplift) Bugs / Patches to be uplifted to
comm-release for SeaMonkey 2.35
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1177041

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Roundtable_-_Personal_Status_Updates
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-07-07#Ratty

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Re: SeaMonkey Win32 nightlies

2015-07-02 Thread Philip Chee
On 03/07/2015 01:15, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
 Hi,
 
 My research for Bug 1179680 Lost ability to add new mail/news
 accounts https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1179680
 completely destroyed my account settings ...

Em, always use a throwaway profile when testing for *anything*.

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Experimental Win32 SeaMonkey 2.35-Gamma build.

2015-06-26 Thread Philip Chee
Details at Mozillazine:
http://forums.mozillazine.org/viewtopic.php?p=14212961#p14212961

Please help smoke test this build.

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds

2015-06-23 Thread Philip Chee
On 23/06/2015 21:55, Dominique wrote:

 Great !
 
 This build work fine for me (Win 8.1 + several IMAP accounts)
 using Lightning and Exchange EWS calendar too : 
 https://github.com/Ericsson/exchangecalendar
 
 Any chance on getting a fresher one sometime ?
 
 Thanks !
 
 Best regards,
 Dom,

Uploaded a new build:
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.win32-20150620-no_precompile.zip

This is an experiment of sorts. It doesn't have the pre-compiled start
up cache which saves us about 5MB (38MB vs 43MG)

http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds - Version Number 2.35

2015-06-19 Thread Philip Chee
On 18/06/2015 19:44, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I am a little worried concerning the version numbers if the builds. I
  see User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:38.0) 
 Gecko/20100101 Firefox/38.0 SeaMonkey/2.35 Build 20150616034436
 
 Shouldn't that be a 2.35a0 or similar instead of 2.35, what looks so
 ready

These are contributed builds. In more general terms the assumption is
that if they build off comm-release / mozilla-release they are RC
(Release Candidates).

Ideally for contributed builds they should be - thinks - 2.35γ (That's a
Greek lower case gamma)

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Re: Contributed Win32 trunk builds - 64bit?

2015-06-17 Thread Philip Chee
On 16/06/2015 14:04, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
 Hi,
 
 I saw a new build and published
 
 https://blog.seamonkey-project.org/2015/06/16/first-win32-seamonkey-2-35-nightly-build-available/.
  That's really 64 Bit only?
A contributed build from rn10950

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Re: Any updates on when we might start seeing Seamonkey updates?

2015-06-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 12/06/2015 07:12, Cruz, Jaime wrote:
 We're falling farther and farther behind both Firefox AND Thunderbird
 now...

I've put some of my own builds up at:
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

2.38a1 is bleeding edge trunk
2.37a2 is an Aurora build

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Re: All of a sudden, my tabs are loading right to left, instead of left to right.

2015-06-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 11/06/2015 22:29, G. Ross wrote:
 glennrme...@gmail.com wrote:
 I've been using seamonkey for several months, but just two days
 ago, new tabs started loading right to left instead of left to
 right. Typically this happens when I'm loading a page from linked
 email, but opening any new tab will produce the same result. I want
 my default back: new tabs appear to the RIGHT of existing tabs, not
 to the LEFT, and the close button is on the right of the tab, not
 the left. I checked about:config, but didn't see anything. How do I
 change this setting back?
 
 Thanks!
 
 Perhaps you have the Japanese version.

Japanese is either top to bottom or left to right.

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Contributed Win32 trunk builds

2015-06-09 Thread Philip Chee
I've uploaded a new build to http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.win32-20150609-014921.zip

CRC32: 0C6B90FC
MD5: 8A8BFB76AD0FBFB4F96E083918F965B8
SHA-1: 2F7ACA42A3C3A6344EB910D8134236191CF5926F
SHA-256: 9C519C585C514AAF514433A9A8D9A77C6FD942FAF3A56F021B957273BFBE85E7
SHA-256 Base64: nFGcWFxRSq9RRDOpqNmnfG/ZQvrzpW8CG5Vyc7++hec=
SHA-384:
25768FBF9D37DE6B6D2D7070CEFB1B5F4588C71E6A863F0079A444159185FA4D85E708E81AFC69BB62CD14DD20607521
SHA-512:
6E9B6281DB8D253FA0100CBA5F980B3D1BD42E9E0F7D734A34E679037593354D77A6FE90433503CC71CF8882E91E4DE20211D53C0B73992DEEDD54841868CF25
SHA3-224: 91A495A232662E7BDC505DCDAD8DE353EB8E9268A0098D81A0F08207
SHA3-256: A86DDB7B35B7D8E66372DF51CB74BF04E5F68BEE704F8CA85E08E5DE51EBC5C0
SHA3-384:
B63C9EECD44968CDF9952BC794051BC93A6ED100D709F22F3C9D3C0993865459C292C9491B424E4DB7B857A322349428
SHA3-512:
054EA3DABC8A1CC295DC634A58C8814307D5D7C8ADCE7C0EAD714ADDB6C7AA35A536618F24A040BDA8C7487ED68E79DBEF905E62B8416D929200B49377BA483B


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Contributed win32 trunk builds for testing:

2015-06-05 Thread Philip Chee
Download at:
http://seamonkey.callek.net/contrib/

File seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.win32-20150604-012541.zip
Hashes: seamonkey-2.38a1.en-US.win32-20150604-012541.txt

CRC32: FB61F95D
MD5: FEFE8E44B8AAC4811EB0B740FCFC73F8
SHA-1: A063408F4CDB34A8F6F2B3EB71355D3D7DC3C52E
SHA-256: 297DF28A6950512B97A32B0A66CE1866B5F849D90C5C05F6989AC6FD4BB02414
SHA-256 Base64: KX3yimlQUSuXoysKZs4YZrX4SdkMXAX2mJrG/UuwJBQ=
SHA-384:
C0D161D41E5A41213D936B929055517587CBDE34176A2831193E319246CA10663A5AA8ED8C91B1637D882957960B741F
SHA-512:
E6BEF8164A128D79CE8359FA85144A9735770CD2D9986982447EB81489B659B0384CE77A3E567B7985ED3701A454965AFE57915EDBE302A0D90A45E851562D6A
SHA3-224: 8D587BE1FFC3A92FF0624BF8F37CBBD4695B94D98765016CCE28517F
SHA3-256: 17276EEE64D6A6115973EC5D456E501238DF337E4772B93B73E708E406E6108F
SHA3-384:
18A405BFAE052AF83A47C6C17C09E99048B04E0251CFBB7EE73528F0CA44D4AD61B32C1BDCA949881A1029EAD5517937
SHA3-512:
35B26F08F063EB19FC9CDFDE4873042CC156CFC565CC6216E3FA62D8538BE5C94CB14DA5B10B96C6D47804F2D56326B57CD364EC5BFF0458C1900059614D8BAD


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Re: Composing mail to new e-mails with names that have commas show 2/two addresses...

2015-06-05 Thread Philip Chee
On 05/06/2015 00:39, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have a few e-mail contacts whose e-mail addresses, with commas,
 like lastname, firstname in their names in their saved e-mails.
 When I right click on their lastname, firstname 
 firstname.lastn...@domainname.edu (without quotation marks) to 
 compose mail to a brand new e-mail, I see two/2 To: addresses
 showing:
 
 To: Lastname  To: Firstname firstname.lastn...@domainname.edu
 
 Is this a minor and annoying known issue?

Yes it's a known bug. There is a patch on hand.

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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ?

2015-04-30 Thread Philip Chee
On 30/04/2015 16:39, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:
 JAS schrieb:
 
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/show-password/ through
 the http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/  and it works fine. You can
 toggle it on and off. Works fine for me.

 
 Hi,
 can you please tell your Operating System, SeaMonkey version and 
 Localization, so that I can add oyur result to 
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat?

Or JAS could create an account (anyone reading this can - it's free) and
help keep https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/AddonCompat up to date.
The more people doing this, the easier it is for Rainer.

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Re: Making Passwords Show Letters ? - Add-on Show Password 1.7 will do the job

2015-04-30 Thread Philip Chee
On 30/04/2015 19:22, Rainer Bielefeld wrote:

 and the SM converted add-on works much better than the original for FF 
 37. General FF problem or FF37 related?
 https://addons.mozilla.org/de/firefox/addon/show-password/reviews/ 
 (my comment currently is in review)

The add-on hasn't been updated since September 24, 2012. Possibly
changes due to Australis in Firefox and/or the disappearance of the
status bar have broken Show Password.

By the way addons.mozilla.org has been known to delete old, broken,
obsolete add-ons on occasion so it might be worthwhile to back these up
somewhere.

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SeaMonkey websites

2015-04-29 Thread Philip Chee
Recently Rainer Bielefeld filed several bugs including:

Bug 1151797 - Create SeaMonkey-Zone at MDN
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1151797

Bug 1151461 - Create a landing page on developer.mozilla.org for the
start page in SeaMonkey MailNews
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1151461

Consequently to kick start some activity I've created a page on the
developer.mozilla.org wiki:

https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/SeaMonkey

(This is a stub based on:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Thunderbird)

Now DevMo is a wiki, which means that anyone can create an account and
then start creating/editing pages. You don't need to be a developer or
coder to start off.

Bug 1151461: Thinking about this further. For release builds we should
not point to a developer page. Instead it should point to a end user
facing document. We could point it to the navigator default start page
and save ourselves some wor, except that I think it current points to:
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/start/
even on release builds.

For release builds we need a different start page that is end user
focused. One idea I have is to use wiki.mozilla.org to host our default
start page in release builds. Anyone with good writing skills want to
help out?

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Re: Resuming an interrupted file download

2015-04-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/04/2015 02:25, Richard Owlett wrote:
 I seem to recall having _had_ the capability of resuming an 
 interrupted file download.
 I'm currently using SeaMonkey 2.26.1 under WinXP Pro SP3.
 What can I do *WITHOUT* moving to a later release?
 TIA

SeaMonkey can only resume a download if the download server supports
resuming.

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Re: Failure to initialize

2015-04-17 Thread Philip Chee
On 18/04/2015 00:57, G. Ross wrote:
 My main computer died.  On this XP computer I installed Seamonkey
 2.6.1 but it will not run.  The message pops up failed to initialize
 properly (0xc005)  Any Ideas how to fix this.  I have
 uninstalled and reinstalled 3 times.  Same with Firefox.  So I have
 no browser ability but emails work fine on Thunderbird.  Help!

You need at least XP Service Pack 2 to run SeaMonkey, SP3 recommended.

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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/04/2015 13:40, Ronnie wrote:
 Give me a day or two, I'll send you a mod so you can see for yourself
 what was done. Unfortunately as of right now, one of the developers
 hosed a toolbar menu button so I am waiting on his fix, hopefully by
 tomorrow. Then I'll shoot it over to you.

Thanks. No need to rush. Actually I only wanted a high level overview of
what you or your users consider features they most want to see that
aren't in SeaMonkey.

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Re: SeaMonkey a first class citizen of LXLE OS

2015-04-08 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/04/2015 01:10, Ronnie wrote:
 I didn't pull the modifications out of no where. When investigating
 SeaMonkey as a possible replacement for Firefox in our lightweight OS I
 read in many different forums, articles and such the most common
 complaints of the suite. None of which were so much that SeaMonkey
 wasn't a capable browser, most issues were about the relatively dated
 look, some common features in firefox that were missing in SeaMonkey and
 screenspace was probably the biggest gripe considering all the filemenu,
 toolbars and inclusion of the statusbar as well. This is what I based a
 majority of the modifications off of, because I wanted it to be
 successful in our Distribution. I didn't want people to start it up only
 to remove it in a couple minutes and install their regular browsers.

This is great actually.

 some common features in firefox that were missing in SeaMonkey
Can you list the top five (or more) features missing in SeaMonkey. Not
making any promises but if you already have an implementation we could
look into adding those into our codebase.

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Bug 1151461 - Create a landing page on developer.mozilla.org for the start page in SeaMonkey MailNews

2015-04-06 Thread Philip Chee
WANTED:
Create a landing page at (**example**):
https://developer.mozilla.org/docs/Mozilla/SeaMonkey/MailNews
We can start by copying the Thunderbird page on DevMo and adapt it for
SeaMonkey:
https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/Thunderbird

WHO
No coding knowledge needed. Knows how to edit a wiki page. Some
knowledge of HTML will help. Good with long words.

Referenced bugs:

Bug 1151461 - Create a landing page on developer.mozilla.org for the
start page in SeaMonkey MailNews

Bug 1140353 - Welcome text contains hyperlink to Thunderbird information

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Re: Seamonkey and Chromebook

2015-04-03 Thread Philip Chee
On 02/04/2015 02:29, jeff.nee...@gmail.com wrote:
 Anyone know if SM can be installed on a Chromebook?  I know some apps
 can be installed; don't know about SM.

You can install Linux in a chroot and then use the Linux version of
SeaMonkey.

http://www.networkworld.com/article/2867025/opensource-subnet/3-ways-to-run-normal-linux-on-a-chromebook.html

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Bug 1145504 - SeaMonkey discovery pane has a blank space at the top of the main content unlike Firefox and Thunderbird

2015-03-30 Thread Philip Chee
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1145504#c5

Feedback from moznet://amo -
As for that bug, aside from critical issues, Seamonkey support is
pretty much up to the community at this point.
So we need someone who knows python to come up with a fix.

The discovery pane code is somewhere here:

https://github.com/mozilla/olympia/tree/master/apps/discovery

The amo deceloper channel ( irc://moznet/amo ) is the right place to ask
technical questions about the code that drives the amo site.

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Re: Finally Seamonkey is Recognized by PC Mag

2015-03-22 Thread Philip Chee
On 22/03/2015 14:52, Daniel wrote:
 On 22/03/15 06:42, Philip Chee wrote:
 On 22/03/2015 00:33, Ant wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 6:12 PM, WaltS48 wrote: ...
 Nice article. Maybe SeaMonkey usage will bump up to 150,000
 active daily installs.
 
 Who has access to the download and installation statistics? ;)

 1. Go: 
 https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-03-17#2.x_.28Last.2C_Current.2C_Next.29

2. Click on the dataviz link.
 
 Phil
 
 Phil, ref the Usage by Version graph, am I correct in reading this
 as V 2.26 (blue) is slightly more popular (by download numbers) than
 V 2.30 (green) which is then more popular than all other versions
 (including 2.32 and 2.33) added together (purple)??

 If so, that doesn't seem right!! ;-(

Sorry I have no idea how this works. Someone (not me) will have to RTFM.

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Re: Finally Seamonkey is Recognized by PC Mag

2015-03-22 Thread Philip Chee
On 22/03/2015 22:46, Daniel wrote:

 Thank you, Mark, I now understand. One wonders why they don't separate 
 out the newer versions, maybe they only list the most popular two 
 individually.

There are several picklists and sliders on the right where you can
change how many versions are shown for what time period, etc.

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Re: SM 2.33 Dual core architecture

2015-03-21 Thread Philip Chee
On 21/03/2015 01:06, Ant wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 2:03 AM, Barry Edwin Gilmour wrote:
 stan wrote on 20/03/15 15:21:
 Does SM 2.33  support dual core architecture on Windows7 32 bit?
 I mean does it take advantage of the dual core by increasing a speed.

 Yep! Compared to single-cores and hard-drives, SM utilises
 multiprocessors and SSDs.
 
 Hmm, when SM hogs CPU, I only see a single core used? Maybe it is my 
 very old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3?

Historically SeaMonkey is a single process multithreaded application.
With current versions the plugin container runs in a second process. The
(in progress) Firefox Electrolysis (e10s) project moves Firefox to a
multiprocess architecture. E10s is still a work in progress but if you
turn it on, the contents of all the tabs run in a single separate
process. Eventually each tab content may be a separate process.

Each process runs on a single core. I don't know if Gecko implements
it's own thread manager or uses OS threads. The OS may or may not run
separate threads on separate execution units. The CPU may or may not be
multithreaded. Intel high end CPUs are hyperthreaded. AMD Bulldozer
modules are clustered multithreading.

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Re: Finally Seamonkey is Recognized by PC Mag

2015-03-21 Thread Philip Chee
On 22/03/2015 00:33, Ant wrote:
 On 3/20/2015 6:12 PM, WaltS48 wrote: ...
 Nice article. Maybe SeaMonkey usage will bump up to 150,000 active
 daily installs.
 
 Who has access to the download and installation statistics? ;)

1. Go:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2015-03-17#2.x_.28Last.2C_Current.2C_Next.29

2. Click on the dataviz link.

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Re: Does anyone use Lightning?

2015-03-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/03/2015 05:32, Ronnie wrote:
 What we did is used the converter to add the compatibility checker
 extension which will ignore incompatible messages that I've found to
 show a bunch of false positives. We then added lightbird as well.
 
 http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/checkcompatibility/
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/seamonkey/addon/lightbird/
 
 you can read our seamonkey article and if you want install our lxle
 seamonkey mod, up to you.
 
 http://lxle.net/articles/?post=lxle-switch-to-seamonkey-introduces-rotation-donation

I wonder which userstyles and bookmarklets are suitable for adaptation
into SeaMonkey.

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Re: New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!

2015-03-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/03/2015 03:41, David E. Ross wrote:
 On 3/19/2015 9:55 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
 New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live! 
 http://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

 Is there a U.S. postal address where donations can be sent via bank 
 checks denominated in US$?

No, there isn't. There is probably a German postal address where
donations can be sent via cheques denominated in Euros.

 The Mozilla Foundation is a 501(c)(3) tax-exempt charitable
 foundation. 501(c)(3) is the section of the U.S. Internal Revenue
 Code that defines such foundations.  Under U.S. laws and the tax laws
 of most U.S. states, my donation to a 501(c)(3) foundation --
 including the Mozilla Foundation -- can be deducted from my income
 before I compute my income taxes.  Are donations to SeaMonkey also
 deductible?

I don't know. I am not a tax accountant.

 If not, can donations be sent to the Mozilla Foundation
 with a request that they be applied to the SeaMonkey project?

You can certainly request. Whether your request will be honoured is a
separate question.

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Re: SeaMonkey Icon/Logo Idea

2015-03-20 Thread Philip Chee
On 20/03/2015 01:10, Ronnie wrote:
 I wonder what is the color of pretentious?

Octarine
http://discworld.wikia.com/wiki/Octarine

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New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!

2015-03-19 Thread Philip Chee
New SeaMonkey Donation Page now live!
http://www.seamonkey-project.org/donate/

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Re: Trusteer

2015-03-18 Thread Philip Chee
On 18/03/2015 05:04, Dave Taylor wrote:
 
 
 David E. Ross wrote:
 Tell your bank you do not want to change browsers. If they cannot 
 accommodate you, change banks. There are many more banks than there
 are browsers.
 Thanks but there are not any other banks that I can use here.  Rural
 area, lucky to have one bank.  And I need one physically here for
 deposits.
 
 Any other ideas out there on how to get SM to accept Trusteer Rapport
  add-on?  Thanks again, Dave

Add-on Converter for SeaMonkey:
http://addonconverter.fotokraina.com/

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Re: Where can I fine lightning that works on SeaMonkey 2.33?

2015-03-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 12/03/2015 21:35, Cecil Bankston wrote:
 user@domain.invalid wrote:
 38b1 does not work...
 
 It works perfectly on my Windows 7 installation.

Message from Fallen:
 If you are using Seamonkey 2.33 and Lightning with a locale that is 
 broken in Lightning, please test the builds from bug 1133663 comment 
 24 so I can upload them.

 Example locales: de en-GB eu fi fr hu id it nb-NO nn-NO pa-IN pt-PT 
 ru sv-SE tr uk de en-GB hr it are fixed and should work, the 
 remaining should fall back to en-US

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1133663#24
(In reply to Philipp Kewisch [:Fallen] from comment #24)

 Please test these updated xpis. I've created them all with the same 
 script so if you've tested for one locale I can assume it works for 
 all of them:

 http://mozilla.kewis.ch/ltn38b2/lightning-linux.xpi 
 http://mozilla.kewis.ch/ltn38b2/lightning-win32.xpi 
 http://mozilla.kewis.ch/ltn38b2/lightning-mac.xpi

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.33 released

2015-03-12 Thread Philip Chee
On 12/03/2015 06:33, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 EE wrote:

 Links:
 [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.33
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.33/

 Is the Mac OS icon for SeaMonkey ever going to be updated to the
 standard format of 512 X 512 px?  It has been stuck at 128 X 128 for
 years.  The last version of Mac OS that had the largest icons at 128 X
 128 was Tiger (10.4).
 
 Don't have and Macs but I created my own in CorelDraw. Here is a 512x512 
 exported png if you want to make your own:
 
 http://www.littleworksstudio.com/temp/usenet/Seamonkey.png

I'm on Windows. Anyone know of a free windows editor application that
can edit Apple ICNS files?

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Re: Restricting Extensions

2015-03-07 Thread Philip Chee
On 08/03/2015 01:46, EE wrote:

 Forgot to ask - does that signature requirement apply to themes as well 
 as extensions?

It only applies to extensions.

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Re: SeaMonkey more secure than Firefox

2015-02-27 Thread Philip Chee
On 28/02/2015 02:18, Robert Kaiser wrote:
 Paul Bergsagel schrieb:
 Surprisingly SeaMonkey has been rated as more secure than Firefox
 
 Please scroll down to the second table:
 
 http://www.zdnet.com/article/mac-os-x-is-the-most-vulnerable-os-claims-security-firm/?tag=nl.e539s_cid=e539ttag=e539ftag=TRE17cfd61

Thank you SeaMonkey developers!!!

 This just confirms that a count of fixed vulnerabilities is a very
 bad measure for security. It just means that Firefox developers are
 more vigilant in finding and fixing security issues, while the small
 SeaMonkey team has no time to even look for any and just inherits
 platform fixes.

For your information, I've been keeping a eye out that I've been
monitoring front end security patches landing in Firefox
(mozilla-central/browser) for more than a year and a half. I've been
porting these changes as they come in. Front end Firefox vulnerabilities
are pretty rare compared to backend problems. It is possible that I've
missed one or two, but I believe I've either fixed all known (front-end)
security issues or confirmed that they don't affect SeaMonkey.

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Re: SeaMonkey more secure than Firefox

2015-02-25 Thread Philip Chee
On 26/02/2015 11:57, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 Surprisingly SeaMonkey has been rated as more secure than Firefox
 
 Please scroll down to the second table:
 
 http://www.zdnet.com/article/mac-os-x-is-the-most-vulnerable-os-claims-security-firm/?tag=nl.e539s_cid=e539ttag=e539ftag=TRE17cfd61
 
 Thank you SeaMonkey developers!!!

I find this rather improbable since SeaMonkey builds off the same
Gecko/Toolkit code as Firefox and at the most I would expect a
difference or +/- 1

Hence I would treat the other claims in that report with a bucket of
sodium chloride.

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Re: Seamonkey Firefox Marketplace support

2015-02-13 Thread Philip Chee
On 13/02/2015 02:08, Ronnie wrote:
 Just a thought but it would probably be a good idea to ensure that
 seamonkey can use the firefox marketplace the same as regular firefox
 can. As of right now apps won't install but will in firefox.
 
 https://marketplace.firefox.com

Apps don't install in SeaMonkey because there is no support for webapps
in SeaMonkey. This has nothing to do with Marketplace.

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Re: Signed extensions coming to SeaMonkey as well?

2015-02-13 Thread Philip Chee
On 13/02/2015 07:34, Ray_Net wrote:
 Ant wrote on 12/02/2015 21:38:
 http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/02/11/210247/firefox-to-mandate-extension-signing

 Is this also coming to future SeaMonkey's releases? Thank you in 
 advance. :)
No.

 Will my two extensions still be installable in SeaMonkey in the
 future ? (i had to fiddle inside the xpi, because it was only for
 FireFox and not for SeaMonkey)

If I could predict the future I wouldn't be here answering questions
like this.

 First one: --- Belgium eID 1.0.18 Use the Belgian electronic
 identity card (eID) in Firefox
 
 Second one: VASCO Card Reader Plugin 3.2.3.2

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Re: Signed extensions coming to SeaMonkey as well?

2015-02-13 Thread Philip Chee
On 13/02/2015 15:25, Ant wrote:
 http://tech.slashdot.org/story/15/02/11/210247/firefox-to-mandate-extension-signing

Is this also coming to future SeaMonkey's releases? Thank you in
 advance. :)

 The  Mozilla blog that was mentioned in a post just before yours
 states that Sea Monkey and Thunderbird will NOT be subject to this
 nasty policy Mozilla has dreamed up.

 Interesting and wow, but SM and TB developers implement this?

I am reliably informed that this is a build time switch. Which means
that people who do their own builds (Waterfox, Pale Moon, etc) can opt
in or out of mandatory extension signing.

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Re: seamonkey ubuntuzilla

2015-02-10 Thread Philip Chee
On 09/02/2015 04:57, Ronnie wrote:
 Is there any communication between the seamonkey developers and ubuntuzilla?

Maybe a Christmas card once a year. Other than that no.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-02-02 Thread Philip Chee
On 03/02/2015 14:20, NoOp wrote:
 On 02/02/2015 11:23 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
 Edmund Wong wrote:
 Greetings,

 The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey 2.32!

 For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
 New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
 contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
 questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
 screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

 Links:
 [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/
 
 
 Yes openSUSE released the update today. Finally.
 
 When SeaMonkey started, it even found and installed Lightning 3.7b1.
 
 
 Try updating your addons:
 
 Lightning 3.7 true{e2fda1a4-762b-4020-b5ad-a41df1933103}
 User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
 Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32
 Build identifier: 20150116134703

Only the beta versions of Lightning are compatible with SeaMonkey releases.

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Re: Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken

2015-01-27 Thread Philip Chee
On 27/01/2015 17:50, Daniel wrote:

 So why am I not getting a warning?? I was going to ask if it might be a 
 32bit/64bit thing, but Sean is also on 64bit, so his peppermint OS 64 
 works but my Mageia 64 doesn't!! (Yes, I'm on Win7 tonight.)

What is your setting for browser.tabs.maxOpenBeforeWarn ? The default is 15.

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Re: Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 27/01/2015 12:40, sean wrote:

 The problem as reported in Bug 1122697:

 Unexpected:
 1. try opening a folder with  15 bookmarks
 2. Warning shows. Dismiss warning.
 3. no bookmarks open. ==

 Can you reproduce #3 on your Linux/SeaMonkey? In other words, is it a
 quirk in the reporters system or does this happen reliably for other
 Linux people as well.

 Phil
 
 peppermintOS linux user here:
 1. tried opening a folder with 53 bookmarks...
 2. dismissed warning...
 3 no bookmarks opened...
Oh good. Thanks for testing.

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Re: Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Chee
On 26/01/2015 22:41, Daniel wrote:
 On 26/01/15 22:40, Philip Chee wrote:
 Hi!

 As I am using Windows, I need someone on Linux to confirm this bug
 occurs with SM 2.32 release.

 Phil

 Phil, in my Linux SeaMonkey, as shown below, I just open a new Browser 
 screen (File-New-Browser Window) and the selected Open All in Tabs 
 for a group of about 60-70 sites  and did not get any message.
 
 Is this what you wanted tested??

The default setting before the warning is shown is 15 tabs or greater.
(browser.tabs.maxOpenBeforeWarn) Check your setting

Expected result:
1. try opening a folder with  15 bookmarks (or reduce maxOpenBeforeWarn
to something small like 2 tabs)
2. Warning shows. Dismiss warning.
3. All the bookmarks in your bookmark folder open.

The problem as reported in Bug 1122697:

Unexpected:
1. try opening a folder with  15 bookmarks
2. Warning shows. Dismiss warning.
3. no bookmarks open. ==

Can you reproduce #3 on your Linux/SeaMonkey? In other words, is it a
quirk in the reporters system or does this happen reliably for other
Linux people as well.

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Bug 1122697 - Warning dialog when opening many tabs is broken

2015-01-26 Thread Philip Chee
Hi!

As I am using Windows, I need someone on Linux to confirm this bug
occurs with SM 2.32 release.

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Re: Using and for URLs messing up for links.

2015-01-19 Thread Philip Chee
On 19/01/2015 14:26, Ant wrote:
 Hello.
 
 I have a few receipts complain that my URLs are not clickable/linked 
 (EarthLink's webmail) OR linked incorrectly (Mutt) because of  and  
 usages in SeaMonkey's composers.

That's odd.   are standard delimiters for urls and have been for
decades. There's probably a RFC on this. Any mailnews software that
doesn't recognize those as delimiters is seriously broken.

 Is anyone else having this problem with other non-Mozilla e-mail readers 
 from Mozilla users? It seems I cannot use  and  for URLs. How can I 
 disable this feature when send this page feature on web pages?

I've never received any complaints on this particular topic.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-17 Thread Philip Chee
On 17/01/2015 04:55, Rufus wrote:

 Glad to read it's still under investigation!  Would be further encourage 
 to read that the developers are looking at more than one platform - the 
 thread seems to indicate they only looked at Windows.

I only looked at windows because I only have windows. I'm an unpaid
volunteer. Would you like to buy me a Mac?

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Re: OT: RISC vs. CISC [was: SeaMonkey 2.32 released]

2015-01-17 Thread Philip Chee
On 18/01/2015 05:47, Miles Fidelman wrote:
 PhillipJones wrote:

 RISC - Reduced Instruction Set Computing Very little Code just
 barely enough to get computer to boot burned into the code. System
 Code has to tell it practically everything Therefor size is large
 and Clunky and slow to load even with tons of system Ram But
 advantage is if you want add features without changing processors,
 you can. CISC - Complex Instruction Set Computing Most code to do
 everything is built into chip. System is small Compact and loads
 very fast even on slow systems. Disadvantage where so much
 operation code is burned in It is difficult and or impossible add
 new features without creating a New Chip with new code burned in.
 
 Ahh, the topic of many long battles.
 
 The argument for RISC is: - if you analyze compiled code, most of it
 uses a small subset of a CISC instruction set, so why waste the
 silicon - optimize for blinding fast speed on the reduced instruction
 set and you come out ahead - I expect it's easier to do things like
 preemptive look ahead and pre-fetch with a simpler instruction set
 
 The argument for CISC is: - do it faster in hardware - write
 compilers that take advantage of the breadth of the instruction set
 
 There are certainly examples of very successful CPUs in both families
 - e.g. SPARC for RISC, Intel's entire line for CISC.
 
 I can also recall a couple of cases where very specific CISC
 instruction sets made a lot of difference: - the old DG Nova's
 macro-instructions looked very much like micro-instructions, with the
 ability to do multiple instructions in parallel (e.g., rotate, shift,
 and compare in one macro-instruction cycle) -- very useful for things

I think most modern CPU architectures these days support SIMD in one
form or other.

 like optical character recognition - at one firm, I personally helped
 develop a set of instructions specialized to high-speed bit twiddling
 in a radar processing system (back in the days when 4MIPS was
 blindingly fast, it was pretty much impossible to manipulate
 nanosecond pulse trains without specialized hardware)

All major CISC cpu families these days are internally RISC (e.g. x64-AMD
from Intel and AMD) with a translation layer for CISC to RISC
conversion. So in a sense RISC has won.

Normally you can't access the underlying RISC core but at least one
manufacturer (I think Taiwan or China based) made a x86 CPU chip where
you could switch to the internal (and very different) RISC instruction set).

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/01/2015 07:24, WaltS48 wrote:
 On 01/14/2015 10:12 AM, Cecil Bankston wrote:

 Is there any way to edit the Lightning addon to force compatibility
 with this version?

 See 
 https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.calendar/8wBkove7-O4/RlzJWeC_Y64J

  It looks like SeaMonkey users won't have a Lightning because
 Thunderbird didn't build a 35.0 beta.
 
 You may be able to figure out something to get it to work, or switch
 to Thunderbird.

https://groups.google.com/d/msg/mozilla.support.calendar/8wBkove7-O4/RlzJWeC_Y64J

Quote:
You could try an untested and unreleased build from the build server,
for example:

https://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/calendar/lightning/tinderbox-builds/comm-beta-linux64/1419527852/

contains a build from 25-Dec-2014 that might work with SeaMonkey 2.32 on
x64 Linux platform.
UnQuote.

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Re: Latest seamonkey for Centos 5.11

2015-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/01/2015 09:36, glennrme...@gmail.com wrote:
 Due to development constraints, I am forced to use CentOS and RHEL
 5.11. For security reasons, I'd like to build 2.32 running on my
 systems, where I currently have 2.21 (32-bit).  I've installed python
 2.7 by hand, which got me past one hurdle, but before I completely
 screw up my system by changing gcc and supporting libraries, I
 thought I'd ask what my chances of success are.

Your chances are slim to none. That's why our Linux builders are now
using CentOS 6.x

You may be able to install a more modern toolchain into your CentOS 5.11
but as you say it might bollix up the rest of your system.

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Re: SeaMonkey 2.32 released

2015-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/01/2015 13:19, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 Rufus wrote:
 Edmund Wong wrote:
 Greetings,

 The SeaMonkey Project is pleased to announce the release of SeaMonkey
 2.32!

 For a more complete list of changes in SeaMonkey 2.32, see the What's
 New in SeaMonkey 2.32 section of the Release Notes [2], which also
 contain a list of known issues and answers to frequently asked
 questions. For a more general overview of the SeaMonkey project (and
 screen shots!), visit www.seamonkey-project.org.

 Links:
 [1] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/2.32
 [2] - http://www.seamonkey-project.org/releases/seamonkey2.32/

 ...ok...the Bugs Fixed list indicated SM 2.32 fixed Ghostery (bug
 1060858)...but I installed SM 2.32 (Mac), and Ghostery 5.2.1 does not work.

 I tried updating Ghostery to the latest version, and it would not install.

 Back to SM 2.26.1...Ghostery 5.2.1 works again.
 
 Because Ghostery requires the FF Australis which SeaMonkey does not use. 

Ghostery uses it's own custom button registration code so their blue
pacman like button should appear on the extreme right of the navigation
toolbar. You might need to restart SeaMonkey.

 I just switched to Bluhell Firewall
 
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/bluhell-firewall/?src=api

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Re: Chase bank access bug fixed in SM 2.32

2015-01-15 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/01/2015 11:20, PhillipJones wrote:

 With latest SeaMonkey Version; now Discover also does this. The Wheels 
 at top of SeaMonkey(or Mozilla) are not not educating these financial 
 institutions.

In the early days of Mozilla/Firefox they had a tech evang volunteer
team who would bombard website contact addresses to complain about this
sort of problem. There's still a tech evang component in Bugzilla but
there's no team any more, at least since Firefox reached mainstream status.

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Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable?

2015-01-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/01/2015 01:56, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] wrote:

 Are you running a different theme by chance? I found zero issues
 related to Chase banking for SM but one for FF.

Bug 1094714 - Unable to login at chase.com due to NS_ERROR_FAILURE
(SeaMonkey only)
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714

status-seamonkey2.31: wontfix
status-seamonkey2.32: fixed
status-seamonkey2.33: fixed
status-seamonkey2.34: fixed

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Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable?

2015-01-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/01/2015 02:04, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

 The current firefox user interface is also unacceptable to me.  Is there
 a way to port the seamonkey user interface in place of the firefox
 interface?  If so, I might give serious consideration to moving to
 firefox and thunderbird in place of seamonkey.
 
 Pale Moon does not use Australis. Don't know of a TB replacement 
 sans-Australis

FOSSAMail from the Pale Moon team is TB sans Australis. Note: This
should not be taken as an endorsement of either Pale Moon or fossamail.
I have never used them. I only know they exist.

Also Postbox. Payware. Fork of Thunderbird by two previous Thunderbird
developers.

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Re: tempted to abandon seamonkey - can firefox be made acceptable?

2015-01-09 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/01/2015 01:46, David H. Durgee wrote:
 I am growing more and more tempted to abandon seamonkey due to the 
 continuing and expanding list of issues.  First is the password issue 
 that forces me to keep a tab open to the data manager in order to be 
 able to copy/paste passwords that are no longer being filled in after 
 2.26.1 was replaced.  Next was the problems with chase.com which is 
 holding me at the 2.30 level in hopes that the next release will 
 eliminate this problem that makes 2.31 unacceptable.  How much longer 
 can this go on?
 
 The current firefox user interface is also unacceptable to me.  Is there 
 a way to port the seamonkey user interface in place of the firefox 
 interface?  If so, I might give serious consideration to moving to 
 firefox and thunderbird in place of seamonkey.
 
 I would prefer to have seamonkey working as it did in 2.26.1 with all 
 the current security fixed applied, but I have my doubts if this will 
 ever be available.  For some reason the developers are more interested 
 in adding features than in fixing problems.

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/buglist.cgi?list_id=11832709resolution=FIXEDemailtype1=substringchfieldto=Nowemailassigned_to1=1query_format=advancedchfieldfrom=-31demail1=philip.chee%40gmail.com

In the past 31 days I fixed 17 bugs. About three are RFEs (Request for
Enhancements). The rest were fixing bugs or fixing bustages caused by
Firefox fiddling with shared code.

What SeaMonkey developers are doing or not doing is not a secret. Every
two weeks we have a status meeting (except for December and January
because most of us were otherwise occupied). You can read the notes e.g.

https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey/StatusMeetings/2014-11-25#Roundtable_-_Personal_Status_Updates

Notes to all our meetings since 01 July, 2008 can be found at:
https://wiki.mozilla.org/SeaMonkey:StatusMeetings

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Re: Meanwhile, on the good news part of the news...

2014-12-21 Thread Philip Chee
On 21/12/2014 06:05, Geoff Welsh wrote:

 Responding to myself here, but as of right now, running SM 2.34a1, 
 because the bug for TBird addressing #970456 is FIXED. the related SM bug
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=972690
 
 is Fixed.
 
 Maybe 2.33b has it implemented too IDK, but it's definitely fixed in SM 
 2.34a1.
 
 The latest official release did not have the fix when I tried it.
 
 GW
 on many a different Mac,

neil: review+
standard8: approval-comm-aurora+
mkmelin+mozilla: approval-comm-beta?
mkmelin+mozilla: approval-comm-esr31?

approval-comm-aurora+ means fixed on TB 36/SeaMonkey 2.33

approval-comm-beta? means mkmelin is asking for approval to checkin
this fix for TB 35/SeaMonkey 2.32

approval-comm-esr31? Only Thunderbird uses this flag.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 chase web site

2014-12-14 Thread Philip Chee
On 15/12/2014 01:39, A Williams wrote:
 David H. Durgee wrote:

 Is this a one-time fixes-it-forever work-around or one that needs to be
 repeated every time you restart SeaMonkey?  Is the restart necessary or
 just cleaner?

 I am assuming now that it is identified it will be fixed in the next
 release, correct?  I doubt that Chase is the only site impacted by it.

 Dave
 
 I'm assuming it is an each-time-you-restart-seamonkey job.
 What it really means is that the developers care *and* know what the 
 problem is.  I'd expect the next version of Seamonkey to be fixed.

I had a hypothesis on what was causing the problem.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c17
I wrote a few steps that a non-technical user could do to test this
hypothesis. Results confirm that we were right.

We now have a quick fix and we need to get this in the hands of our
users as soon as possible.
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/attachment.cgi?id=8527843action=edit

A longer term fix would be:
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1094714#c12
but that would require the involvement of a Gecko developer. And nothing
stops us from landing the quick fix.

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Re: Seamonkey 2.31 has broken Flashblock.

2014-12-10 Thread Philip Chee
On 10/12/2014 02:54, marksatt...@sbcglobal.net wrote:
 On Tuesday, December 9, 2014 12:49:01 PM UTC-6, Ed Mullen wrote:
 msattler wrote on 12/9/2014 1:01 PM:
 Something that was changed from 2.30 to 2.31 has broken the
 functionality of Flashblock.  It still blocks flash, when I go to
 a youtube clip, I get just a black box.  I don't get the icon in
 the middle of it that allows the clip to proceed. It is just
 completely blocked, with no way to view it. Rolling back to 2.30
 restores Flashblock to working order. Any chance of fixing this?
 
 
 Contact the Philip Chee, the Flashblock author, and let him know.
 
 https://addons.mozilla.org/en-us/firefox/addon/flashblock/
 
 -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Nothing says poor craftsmanship
 more than wrinkled duct tape.
 
 Actually, I had sent him a couple of emails this weekend.  No
 response yet. However, following your link today, I see there is a
 brand new version posted.  It says it is a fix for a Firfox bug, but
 may resolve the issue on Seamonkey as well.  I shall give it a go
 when I have time later this week. Thank you very much for the kind
 reply.

The SeaMonkey version is at:
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/flashblock-1.3.21.xpi

All versions are available at:
http://downloads.mozdev.org/flashblock/
Including old historical versions.

Sorry for the delay.

Phil

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New Win32 builds! Onna stick! Geddit while they're hot!

2014-12-06 Thread Philip Chee
http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/?C=M;O=D

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.34a1.en-US.win32.zip

http://ftp.mozilla.org/pub/mozilla.org/seamonkey/nightly/latest-comm-central-trunk/seamonkey-2.34a1.en-US.win32.installer.exe

(Everyone remember to say thank you to ewong for getting our Windows
builds back up)

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Re: Meanwhile, on the good news part of the news...

2014-11-28 Thread Philip Chee
On 28/11/2014 07:42, Geoff Welsh wrote:

 This addressing bug fix has landed;
 
 https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=970456
 
 and is fixed in nightlies of TB they say.
 
 Not sure if/how/when that would/might drift over to SM.

https://hg.mozilla.org/comm-central/rev/98414962486a

All the changes are in /mailnews/ this part of the comm-central source
tree is shared between Thunderbird and SeaMonkey so normally will not
need any further action by the SeaMonkey team.

Some FYIs:

/calendar/ Lightning. Sunbird (Extinct).
/chat/ shared between Thunderbird and Instantbird
/editor/ parts of the SeaMonkey webpage composer, TB/SM mail message
compose window. Extinct ancestor of Nvu, Kompozer, Blue Griffon.
/im/ Instantbird exclusive
/mail/ Thunderbird exclusive
/mailnews/ Backend and shared components for SM/TB
/suite/ SeaMonkey exclusive

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Bug 1098639 - The Edit Bookmark Panel animates when opening.

2014-11-28 Thread Philip Chee
STR:
Visit some website
On the right side of the location bar there is a bookmark button (some
sort of diagonal ribbon-like thing).
Click on it will open a add bookmark arrow panel.

Cause: Bug 610545 (arrow panels should animate when opening and when
cancelling).

To prevent panel popups from animating when opening it suffices to add
|animate=false| to the edit bookmark panel:
panel id=editBookmarkPanel

To animate or not to animate.

For: shiny!
Against: Nothing else in SeaMonkey browser animates so it looks out of
place.

I have a patch that turns this animation off. Opinions anyone?

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Re: SeaMonkey's days numbered???

2014-11-25 Thread Philip Chee
On 25/11/2014 02:19, Ruediger Lahl wrote:
 *Robert Kaiser* wrote:
 NoOp schrieb:
 I'd say your best bet is to support the volunteer developers that take
 time from their day jobs to work on the SeaMonkey project.

 Actually, that's the second best bet. The best bet is to actually try an
 actively help the project, be it with targeted testing and finding
 reproducible cases of problems and regression ranges for when problems
 have been introduced,
 
 Good idea! Tell me the address, where I can download Windows trunk- or
 nightly-Builds.
 
 Some want to help, but they are locked out since June.

I'm looking into uploading my *very* unofficial builds to my long
forgotten sourceforge account. Fortunately SeaMonkeys password manager
remembered my SF password for me.

Phil

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Re: SeaMonkey's days numbered???

2014-11-22 Thread Philip Chee
On 23/11/2014 04:01, Paul Bergsagel wrote:

 Maybe, but with two struggling companies, Yahoo and Mozilla, each going 
 into the deal hoping the other company will provide the necessary 
 strength to keep both companies afloat--

 how long can such a deal last?
It will last five years, that's like 35 years in Internet dog years.

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Re: SeaMonkey's days numbered???

2014-11-21 Thread Philip Chee
On 22/11/2014 10:16, Paul Bergsagel wrote:
 The search deal between Google and Mozilla which provided funding for 
 Mozilla has expired and is not being renewed. A new search deal has been 
 stuck with Yahoo. Will the Yahoo search deal provide enough long term 
 funding for Mozilla to keep development going. My fear is that the new 
 deal with Yahoo means the slow demise of SeaMonkey (and Firefox).

I don't think you need to worry about this. The previous search contract
with Google gave Mozilla a revenue stream of approximately US $300
million. Mozilla has not announced details of the new agreement but most
financial analysts think that it should be in the same ballpark.

Phil

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