Re: Compacting Folders
On 11/24/2020 2:03 PM, EE wrote: > Mr. Ed wrote: >> Win 10 Sm 2.53.5.1 >> >> Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are >> being >> compacted. >> Are they being compacted? >> > I am seeing that in the status bar. > OK - Reinstalled and problem no longer persists. -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting Folders
On 11/24/2020 11:03 AM, EE wrote: Mr. Ed wrote: Win 10 Sm 2.53.5.1 Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are being compacted. Are they being compacted? I am seeing that in the status bar. Ditto when I do a manual compact in my SM v2.53.5.1 in my decade old, updated 64-bit W7 HPE SP1 PC. -- Life's so loco! ..!.. *isms, sins, hates, (d)evil, z, tiredness, my body, illnesses (e.g., COVID-19 & SARS-CoV-2), deaths (RIP), heat, interruptions, issues, conflicts, obstacles, stresses, fires, out(r)ages, dramas, unlucky #4, 2020, greeds, bugs (e.g., crashes & female mosquitoes), etc. D: Note: A fixed width font (Courier, Monospace, etc.) is required to see this signature correctly. /\___/\http://aqfl.net & http://antfarm.home.dhs.org / /\ /\ \ | |o o| | Axe ANT from its address if shown & e-mailing privately. \ _ / Please kindly use Ant nickname & URL/link if crediting. ( ) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting Folders
Mr. Ed wrote: Win 10 Sm 2.53.5.1 Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are being compacted. Are they being compacted? I am seeing that in the status bar. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compacting Folders
Win 10 Sm 2.53.5.1 Noticed that I no longer see the message signifying that the folders are being compacted. Are they being compacted? -- "This is America! You can't make a horse testify against himself!" -Mister Ed ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
On 8/02/2016 9:38 PM, Daniel wrote: On 8/02/2016 4:12 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: When I select an email account and choose File - Compact folders I get an error message: Some folders [mentions some folders] cannot be compacted because there is not enough free disk space ... The profile drive has 200 Gb of free space. The error occurs deep into the compaction, the folders mentioned are sub-folders of a first-level folder. Any thoughts? I suppose if you are moving/storing e-mails in these sun-folders, then I suppose it is highly unlikely that Windows have their properties set as "Read Only", but you never know. Have you checked?? s/sun-folders/sub-folders -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
On 8/02/2016 4:12 AM, Ed Mullen wrote: When I select an email account and choose File - Compact folders I get an error message: Some folders [mentions some folders] cannot be compacted because there is not enough free disk space ... The profile drive has 200 Gb of free space. The error occurs deep into the compaction, the folders mentioned are sub-folders of a first-level folder. Any thoughts? I suppose if you are moving/storing e-mails in these sun-folders, then I suppose it is highly unlikely that Windows have their properties set as "Read Only", but you never know. Have you checked?? -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:42.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.39 Build identifier: 20151028234211 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:41.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.38 Build identifier: 20150903203501 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
On 2/7/2016 12:12 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: When I select an email account and choose File - Compact folders I get an error message: Some folders [mentions some folders] cannot be compacted because there is not enough free disk space ... The profile drive has 200 Gb of free space. The error occurs deep into the compaction, the folders mentioned are sub-folders of a first-level folder. Any thoughts? Did you run CCleaner first? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compacting folders
When I select an email account and choose File - Compact folders I get an error message: Some folders [mentions some folders] cannot be compacted because there is not enough free disk space ... The profile drive has 200 Gb of free space. The error occurs deep into the compaction, the folders mentioned are sub-folders of a first-level folder. Any thoughts? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ "There is no reason anyone would want a computer in their home." - Ken Olson, president, chairman and founder of Digital Equipment Corp., 1977 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashing When Compacting Folders....
Hb wrote: SamuelS wrote: Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Please try to manually compact after disabling any Anti Virus Software. Hb Hb, Thank you, that is the way to do it... for my system. Bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashing When Compacting Folders....
SamuelS wrote: Hb wrote: SamuelS wrote: Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Please try to manually compact after disabling any Anti Virus Software. Hb Hb, Thank you, that is the way to do it... for my system. Which antivirus would interfere with a program changing a file *directly* associated with that program? Generally what I find when there are issues with a mailbox file is a corrupted index file .msf. I either right-click on mailbox and select Properties Repair Folder or exit out of SeaMonkey and delete associated *.msf file and restart SeaMonkey. If that does not fix it then time for a filesystem check or check the mailbox file, (one without an extension). I created some perl scripts awhile ago to separate the unified mailbox file into individual *.eml files to identify and remove damaged/infected messages and then rebuild fixed mailbox file. Help recover messages for folks who had failing hard drives or infected systems. -- Take care, Jonathan --- LITTLE WORKS STUDIO http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashing When Compacting Folders....
SamuelS wrote: Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Please try to manually compact after disabling any Anti Virus Software. Hb ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashing When Compacting Folders....
Petr Voralek wrote: Hello! On Sunday, 15.02.2015 22:00(+0100) *Samuels* wrote, and I quote (in part): Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Known and annoying bug... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998 Petr, Thank you for the information. But I Am a bit perplexed as the bug report is showing from version 2.29, I only encountered this since installing 2.32.1 Maybe it was slow to show up in my system. bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Crashing When Compacting Folders....
Hello! On Sunday, 15.02.2015 22:00(+0100) *Samuels* wrote, and I quote (in part): Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Known and annoying bug... https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1066998 -- Petr Voralek(JabberID: na...@jabber.cz) ... HANGING -- An early form of bungee jumping, practiced in the old west. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Crashing When Compacting Folders....
Hello all, not sure if this is happening to others using 2.32.1 on Vista business... laptop. Each time I manually or auto compact folders, SM crashes. Any ideas as to what this may stem from or what I need to do to prevent it going forward? Crash reports are being sent as well, automatically. TIA - bo1953 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
Ed Mullen wrote: Finally, I closed SeaMonkey, did a search for *.msf, and deleted every msf file found. Restarted and all seems to be okay now. Weird. It's been a long time since I've seen it happen, but sometimes, index files get corrupted, and the effect is that it appears that mail has been lost/deleted. If compressing the folder in question doesn't work, then deleting the appropriate .MSF forces a complete rebuild of the index from scratch. Although going this route is something of a last gasp thing, I've never seen that not work for me. Smith ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
NFN Smith wrote on 11/19/2014 11:57 AM: Ed Mullen wrote: Finally, I closed SeaMonkey, did a search for *.msf, and deleted every msf file found. Restarted and all seems to be okay now. Weird. It's been a long time since I've seen it happen, but sometimes, index files get corrupted, and the effect is that it appears that mail has been lost/deleted. If compressing the folder in question doesn't work, then deleting the appropriate .MSF forces a complete rebuild of the index from scratch. Although going this route is something of a last gasp thing, I've never seen that not work for me. Smith Yep, since killing all the .msf files I haven't sen the issue. Still, it's disconcerting to click through, say, messages in a folder called Bob and see nothing but messages about Your natural gas bill. Weird! -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ The voices in my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
Ed Mullen wrote on 11/19/2014 10:12 PM: NFN Smith wrote on 11/19/2014 11:57 AM: Ed Mullen wrote: Finally, I closed SeaMonkey, did a search for *.msf, and deleted every msf file found. Restarted and all seems to be okay now. Weird. It's been a long time since I've seen it happen, but sometimes, index files get corrupted, and the effect is that it appears that mail has been lost/deleted. If compressing the folder in question doesn't work, then deleting the appropriate .MSF forces a complete rebuild of the index from scratch. Although going this route is something of a last gasp thing, I've never seen that not work for me. Smith Yep, since killing all the .msf files I haven't sen the issue. Still, it's disconcerting to click through, say, messages in a folder called Bob and see nothing but messages about Your natural gas bill. Weird! Which makes me think there is fundamentally something wrong with Mozilla file handling. I mean, Microsoft handles files well. Office. Windows. I've never had an issue with them. But all this mbox stuff? Fraught with peril. Seems like someone decided to invent a better mousetrap and failed. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ The trouble with doing something right the first time is that nobody appreciates how difficult it was. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
On 18/11/2014 7:40 AM, jtkirkatstarb...@gmail.com wrote: Recently, I noticed when I click on a msg in any of my folders the body is neither of the same date as shown in the listing, nor is the content what the subject is about as shown in the listing. As a matter of fact, I can't really find any msg received or sent because the subjects and dates in the listing are not the subjects or dates of the actual msg. I suspect there is is something wrong with the compacting/decompacting algorithm. Does anyone know how to recover my email folders? Just FYI, when SM talks about compacting files, it's not like what might happen in backing up your data. In SM, say you receive five e-mails, one, two, three, four and five. Maybe three is spam, so you delete it. Maybe two is from your daughter, so you move it into the Family folder. And maybe Five is from your Boss, so you move it into the Work folder. Your Inbox still contains all five messages, just it will only show you two, messages One and Four. The other three are still in your Inbox file, just a bit has been changed in each deleted/moved messages header information to make it invisible. After some time, there can be quite a bit of disk space unused in the inbox. To reclaim this space, File-Empty Trash then File-Compact Folders. If you are worried about losing e-mail, before you do as I suggest above, close SeaMonkey and copy your Inbox to somewhere else on your HD. To sort out your misaligned Subjects and messages, try closing SM and deleting your inbox.msf file ( *not the inbox (without the suffix) file* as it contains your e-mails). When you re-start SM and select your inbox, and a new .msf file will be created. HTH -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:32.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.29 Build identifier: 20140829003846 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:34.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.31 Build identifier: 20141020202138 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
On 17/11/2014 22:09, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: jtkirkatstarb...@gmail.com wrote: Recently, I noticed when I click on a msg in any of my folders the body is neither of the same date as shown in the listing, nor is the content what the subject is about as shown in the listing. As a matter of fact, I can't really find any msg received or sent because the subjects and dates in the listing are not the subjects or dates of the actual msg. I suspect there is is something wrong with the compacting/decompacting algorithm. Does anyone know how to recover my email folders? As far as compacting is concerned, what's done is done. The only way to recover the previous state is if you can restore from a backup. One of the first lessons I learned about computing, back in 1985, was if you love me, back me up. But you may have some luck if you find your profile folder and (with SeaMonkey closed) delete all the *.msf files. These are index files (the message content is stored separately) and will be rebuilt the next time you start SeaMonkey. They sometimes get corrupted and produce strange results like yours. I think there is UI to delete/recreate the msf file: Right click on the folder, choose Properties Then Repair Folder Works for IMAP and newsgroups, probably POP too. Regards. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
Mason83 wrote on 11/18/2014 2:58 PM: On 17/11/2014 22:09, Paul B. Gallagher wrote: jtkirkatstarb...@gmail.com wrote: Recently, I noticed when I click on a msg in any of my folders the body is neither of the same date as shown in the listing, nor is the content what the subject is about as shown in the listing. As a matter of fact, I can't really find any msg received or sent because the subjects and dates in the listing are not the subjects or dates of the actual msg. I suspect there is is something wrong with the compacting/decompacting algorithm. Does anyone know how to recover my email folders? As far as compacting is concerned, what's done is done. The only way to recover the previous state is if you can restore from a backup. One of the first lessons I learned about computing, back in 1985, was if you love me, back me up. But you may have some luck if you find your profile folder and (with SeaMonkey closed) delete all the *.msf files. These are index files (the message content is stored separately) and will be rebuilt the next time you start SeaMonkey. They sometimes get corrupted and produce strange results like yours. I think there is UI to delete/recreate the msf file: Right click on the folder, choose Properties Then Repair Folder Works for IMAP and newsgroups, probably POP too. Regards. There is that indeed. However, I recently have had an issue with messages being displayed incorrectly. Hard to depict. I click on a message in a folder and the content displayed is of a message in a folder above the one I'm in. If I do the Repair Folder that fixes it. But when I then drill down through other folders it keeps happening. Finally, I closed SeaMonkey, did a search for *.msf, and deleted every msf file found. Restarted and all seems to be okay now. Weird. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ If you can survive death, you can probably survive anything. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
Recently, I noticed when I click on a msg in any of my folders the body is neither of the same date as shown in the listing, nor is the content what the subject is about as shown in the listing. As a matter of fact, I can't really find any msg received or sent because the subjects and dates in the listing are not the subjects or dates of the actual msg. I suspect there is is something wrong with the compacting/decompacting algorithm. Does anyone know how to recover my email folders? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders caused huge loss of email
jtkirkatstarb...@gmail.com wrote: Recently, I noticed when I click on a msg in any of my folders the body is neither of the same date as shown in the listing, nor is the content what the subject is about as shown in the listing. As a matter of fact, I can't really find any msg received or sent because the subjects and dates in the listing are not the subjects or dates of the actual msg. I suspect there is is something wrong with the compacting/decompacting algorithm. Does anyone know how to recover my email folders? As far as compacting is concerned, what's done is done. The only way to recover the previous state is if you can restore from a backup. One of the first lessons I learned about computing, back in 1985, was if you love me, back me up. But you may have some luck if you find your profile folder and (with SeaMonkey closed) delete all the *.msf files. These are index files (the message content is stored separately) and will be rebuilt the next time you start SeaMonkey. They sometimes get corrupted and produce strange results like yours. Example: My folder on Windows 7, C:\Users\MyWindowsUserName\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\.default\Mail\mail.mydomainname.com\, contains the files Inbox (which holds the messages) and Inbox.msf (which holds the index for Inbox). In this example, the words MyWindowsUserName, , and mail.mydomainname.com will vary from user to user, computer to computer, and account to account. The rest of the path may also vary depending on your operating system. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. You can configure the threshold (for all mail folders combined) or disable automatic compaction of folders altogether in Preferences, Mail Newsgroups, Network Storage, Disk Space. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? It's not a bug, it's a feature. Is there some setting that got changed during an update? Automatic compaction was enabled by default with SM 2.1 (bug 437657). So unless you recently upgraded from SM 2.0 or earlier, this is not the reason for what you're experiencing. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? Is there some setting that got changed during an update? thanks! GW Geoff, have a look at your Disk Space setting at Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage (Note: Win Linux setting...should be similar in Mac!!). Increase the setting to reduce the frequency of SM asking you. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Jens Hatlak wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. You can configure the threshold (for all mail folders combined) or disable automatic compaction of folders altogether in Preferences, Mail Newsgroups, Network Storage, Disk Space. thanks Jens. I have set it all the way up to 500MB and it still keeps asking me repeatably. That's bigger than my hard drive, btw, Doesn't that mean something is wrong? I will obviously have to turn off the Automatic feature, because in my case, either SM 2.11, or SM 2.12 broke it. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Daniel wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? Is there some setting that got changed during an update? thanks! GW Geoff, have a look at your Disk Space setting at Edit-Preferences-Mail Newsgroups-Network Storage (Note: Win Linux setting...should be similar in Mac!!). Increase the setting to reduce the frequency of SM asking you. Hi Daniel, As you may have noticed in my post to Jens, I have it set bigger than my hard drive, and it still keeps asking me repeatedly. GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
whoops, sorry to both Jens and Daniel, I can't see very well and was confusing GB and MB GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? Is there some setting that got changed during an update? thanks! GW mail.purge.ask;false ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: whoops, sorry to both Jens and Daniel, I can't see very well and was confusing GB and MB GW When reading your reply's to Jens and myself, I was wondering if/how it was possible to set the setting to larger than the total available memory!! Glad you solved the problem. -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Interviewed by CNN on 15/09/2012 09:31, Geoff Welsh told the world: I have set it all the way up to 500MB and it still keeps asking me repeatably. That's bigger than my hard drive, btw, Doesn't that mean something is wrong? Uhhh... while 500 Mb is undoubtedly a big threshold for compacting folders, and yes, if it still asks for compacting there might be something wrong... ...I very much doubt that it's bigger than your hard drive. Even cellphones have more storage capacity than that nowadays. I think you are confusing _mega_bytes with _giga_bytes. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my cave wall paintings. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.12.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? Is there some setting that got changed during an update? thanks! GW I use SM on my Macs and I have my Pref set to ask to Compact when it will save 10 MB...and I about *never* get prompted to Compact Folders, not even after update to 2.12.1. What I would look at is your settings for your individual Accounts for Synchronization and Storage - I keep only the most recent 300 messages and remove bodies from messages more than 1 day old. I also have my Trash set to empty on exit, and automatically remove Junk after one day. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. ... Is there some setting .. I use SM on my Macs and I have my Pref set to ask to Compact when it will save 10 MB...and I about *never* get prompted to Compact Folders, not even after update to 2.12.1. What I would look at is your settings for your individual Accounts for Synchronization and Storage - I keep only the most recent 300 messages and remove bodies from messages more than 1 day old. I also have my Trash set to empty on exit, and automatically remove Junk after one day. Thanks Rufus. I see now the Synchronization and Storage for my News account, and the equivalent Disk Space setting for my two mail accounts. When it says delete after days; I hope that just means, delete from the Trash folder. Is that correct? GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
Geoff Welsh wrote: Rufus wrote: Geoff Welsh wrote: OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. ... Is there some setting .. I use SM on my Macs and I have my Pref set to ask to Compact when it will save 10 MB...and I about *never* get prompted to Compact Folders, not even after update to 2.12.1. What I would look at is your settings for your individual Accounts for Synchronization and Storage - I keep only the most recent 300 messages and remove bodies from messages more than 1 day old. I also have my Trash set to empty on exit, and automatically remove Junk after one day. Thanks Rufus. I see now the Synchronization and Storage for my News account, and the equivalent Disk Space setting for my two mail accounts. When it says delete after days; I hope that just means, delete from the Trash folder. Is that correct? GW I think that means expired headers/message bodies from subscribed Newsgroups - at least for Newsgroups. As I set my prefs to empty Trash on exit I never have anything remaining in my Trash to compare and be certain of that though; the same may be true for Mail. For my Mail Account I have the Pref set to never delete any messages so I'd think that I have to delete messages and empty Trash manually, which is what I want. The more I learn about what really happens with Compact Folder(s) the more I really wish there was just a pref setting for Compact all Folders on Exit and be done with the automatic requests altogether. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compacting folders, asks repeatedly; Bug? (Mac)
OSX 10.6.8, SM 2.12.1 In Mail, it asks me if I want to Compact Folders several times a day. I said yes the first few times, but this is getting really annoying. Is this a Bug anyone knows about? Is there some setting that got changed during an update? thanks! GW ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Boldly Going ... and Compacting Folders
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Inbox messages gone after compacting folders
Hi I lost all of the emails in the inbox on one of my accounts after compacting the folders on that account. Is there a way to retrieve them? Thanks! DJ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Inbox messages gone after compacting folders
On 09/29/2011 12:02 AM, Dawnie J Baldo wrote: Hi I lost all of the emails in the inbox on one of my accounts after compacting the folders on that account. Is there a way to retrieve them? ... Have you tried: View|Messages|All on that folder to see if they show? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
Ray_Net a écrit : cyberzen wrote: George Carden a écrit : Rick Merrill wrote: cyberzen wrote: Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders yes, as far as it goes. Very interesting, and helpful, everyone! Thanks! you're welcome as I could not compact correctly an inbox folder, I closed totally seamonkey, then deleted both files inbox and inbox.msf (better save them elsewhere) restarted SM, and when I open this account, SM downloaded the whole messages from the server, the inbox size was divided by 3 as I could not compact correctly an inbox folder what was the problem ? I tried right clic on the folder, compact, with apparently no effect. more, size report is not accurate as it has been in the past, why ? sometimes the size is ok, sometimes not that's why I examined it in a file manager in fact imap is kind of mystery (for me) -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
George Carden a écrit : Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Thanks, George check first the properties of the folder, if it is not set for off line use, maybe it is not at all on your side, but only on server side -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
cyberzen wrote: Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders yes, as far as it goes. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
Rick Merrill wrote: cyberzen wrote: Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders yes, as far as it goes. Very interesting, and helpful, everyone! Thanks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
George Carden a écrit : Rick Merrill wrote: cyberzen wrote: Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders yes, as far as it goes. Very interesting, and helpful, everyone! Thanks! you're welcome as I could not compact correctly an inbox folder, I closed totally seamonkey, then deleted both files inbox and inbox.msf (better save them elsewhere) restarted SM, and when I open this account, SM downloaded the whole messages from the server, the inbox size was divided by 3 -- cyberzen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
cyberzen wrote: George Carden a écrit : Rick Merrill wrote: cyberzen wrote: Jens Hatlak a écrit : George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens is it accurate ? http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders yes, as far as it goes. Very interesting, and helpful, everyone! Thanks! you're welcome as I could not compact correctly an inbox folder, I closed totally seamonkey, then deleted both files inbox and inbox.msf (better save them elsewhere) restarted SM, and when I open this account, SM downloaded the whole messages from the server, the inbox size was divided by 3 as I could not compact correctly an inbox folder what was the problem ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Compacting folders
Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Thanks, George ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Compacting folders
George Carden wrote: Is it necessary to compact folders of IMAP accounts? Usually yes, since messages are only marked as deleted until the folder is compacted (expunged). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
On 4/23/2010 3:50 AM, Test wrote: I know my trash folder is an integral part of my filing system And I have emails that are several months old in it. Most files though are moved to one of the many other folders I have. I have automatic compacting but the threshold for it very low so it does not take very long. When I had it set to manual I would forget and folder would become huge. I'll try the low threshold - hadn't thought about how frequent but quick compacting might be less annoying than the reverse, but it sounds like a good idea. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 21/4/2010 08:27, Daniel told the world: O.K., well if that's the situation then you should probably know that when you move an e-mail from the inbox to the Trash folder, it's not really moved, it's just marked for deletion (one of the bits in the header is changed from a zero to a one, or something). Well, THIS part is correct... Then, when you Empty Trash, all the stuff that's still in your inbox that's marked for deletion is actually deleted. Until then, the e-mail is still in your inbox file, just not showing. Yep, my mistake, the bit isn't changed until the Trash is emptied, and the message is actually removed as part of the compaction process. Daniel ...but this one isn't. Actually, the marked for deletion message in the inbox is deleted when the folder is compacted, which is independent on having the Trash emptied. Emptying the Trash has the same effect as (re-)deleting all messages in the Trash and then compacting it -- but since Seamonkey does not have to worry about *keeping* stuff, it can take the shortcut of deleting the entire folder and recreating it as a new mail folder, which is way faster. So having all these e-mails still, really, in your inbox is why it's taking soo long to re-index. The problem is not the deleted messages, is the *remaining* messages. I try keeping mine under a thousand. If there are significantly-sized groups of messages with a common theme (same sender company, for instant) it would probably be better to set up a rule and send those directly to a separate folder. This improves both performance (because the inbox doesn't grow so much) and organization. For instance, I subscribe several mailing lists and Yahoogroups; all of them have their own folders. Most of them are of the non-urgent variety -- so keeping them in separate folders keeps my Inbox uncluttered; when I'm busy, I just ignore those folders. When I have time I go to those and read them. I was going to suggest that you stop Trashing these messages, but maybe you could try marking them as Junk, but I think that would really be the same thing. Similar, in that the message is (usually) moved to the Junk folder, where they will be kept for a while and then deleted; but different, in that marking it as junk trains the program to recognize similar message with the goal of tagging them as junk automatically. You REALLY, REALLY SHOULDN'T tag relevant (but old) messages as junk. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
flyguy wrote: Daniel wrote: flyguy wrote: Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000 messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200, but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages, so they don't build up. As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to an ISP quirk, and not the compacting. Why does anyone want to store (i.e. keep) anything in the Trash folder...for one day let alone 60 days?? Make yourself/your Wife some extra folders to store the data in!! It's not be stored in the Trash, it's deferred deletion like the Recycle Bin. If you haven't needed it after 60 days, you can probably live without it, and the system does finally automatically delete it. She does save messages she wants to keep in various folders. Personally, I pull stuff out of the Trash a few times a month, sometimes to save, sometimes because a situation I thought was over comes back to life, but usually just remind myself of something. I use a 90 day retention period, which is satisfactory 99.99% of the time. Very rarely, not even once a year, I might have to go to a mail backup file and find what I've after. O.K., well if that's the situation then you should probably know that when you move an e-mail from the inbox to the Trash folder, it's not really moved, it's just marked for deletion (one of the bits in the header is changed from a zero to a one, or something). Then, when you Empty Trash, all the stuff that's still in your inbox that's marked for deletion is actually deleted. Until then, the e-mail is still in your inbox file, just not showing. So having all these e-mails still, really, in your inbox is why it's taking soo long to re-index. I was going to suggest that you stop Trashing these messages, but maybe you could try marking them as Junk, but I think that would really be the same thing. So I've got no suggestion, unless it's to manually move the messages to another folder and then manually delete them some time later! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
flyguy wrote: Daniel wrote: flyguy wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail news Network/ Storage. uncheck compact files when K can be saved. then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole lot of issues. I just checked, and that's the way it is set up, and I do manually compact hers whenever I notice mine being compacted (it's set auto). Hmmm. I now think she was having another problem that looked similar, and it got misdiagnosed - recently, our ISP was getting really slow on some mail accounts when a message of 2 or 3 mb was downloading, so that was probably it. I am disappointed I can't set a time, or that SM can't work around normal email operations when compacting, but it's an infrequent irritant. Thanks for the suggestion - still the best idea. Does your wife have all her mail in a single folder or has she broken the mail up into yearly folder for different mail, e.g. I store all my past mail in folders under the Local Folders as 2009_Family, 2008_Family, 2009_Work, 2008_Work, etc., etc.. Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000 messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200, but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages, so they don't build up. As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to an ISP quirk, and not the compacting. Why does anyone want to store (i.e. keep) anything in the Trash folder...for one day let alone 60 days?? Make yourself/your Wife some extra folders to store the data in!! Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
Daniel wrote: flyguy wrote: Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000 messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200, but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages, so they don't build up. As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to an ISP quirk, and not the compacting. Why does anyone want to store (i.e. keep) anything in the Trash folder...for one day let alone 60 days?? Make yourself/your Wife some extra folders to store the data in!! It's not be stored in the Trash, it's deferred deletion like the Recycle Bin. If you haven't needed it after 60 days, you can probably live without it, and the system does finally automatically delete it. She does save messages she wants to keep in various folders. Personally, I pull stuff out of the Trash a few times a month, sometimes to save, sometimes because a situation I thought was over comes back to life, but usually just remind myself of something. I use a 90 day retention period, which is satisfactory 99.99% of the time. Very rarely, not even once a year, I might have to go to a mail backup file and find what I've after. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
flyguy wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail news Network/ Storage. uncheck compact files when K can be saved. then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole lot of issues. I just checked, and that's the way it is set up, and I do manually compact hers whenever I notice mine being compacted (it's set auto). Hmmm. I now think she was having another problem that looked similar, and it got misdiagnosed - recently, our ISP was getting really slow on some mail accounts when a message of 2 or 3 mb was downloading, so that was probably it. I am disappointed I can't set a time, or that SM can't work around normal email operations when compacting, but it's an infrequent irritant. Thanks for the suggestion - still the best idea. Does your wife have all her mail in a single folder or has she broken the mail up into yearly folder for different mail, e.g. I store all my past mail in folders under the Local Folders as 2009_Family, 2008_Family, 2009_Work, 2008_Work, etc., etc.. Works for me. Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
Interviewed by CNN on 18/4/2010 23:12, flyguy told the world: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Speaking from personal experience, having big folders make the mail client quite slow even for simple tasks like opening a folder. I got into the habit of periodically (usually once a year) moving old messages to a separate subfolder. This has the consequence of tremendously speeding up the compacting process -- since the bulk of messages are in folders that *never change*, only the working folders are compacted. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Itseemsalittlecrowdedinheredontyouthink? *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.0.4 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Sounds like a good case for writing some message filters and installing subfolders. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We have more to fear from the bungling of the incompetent than from the machinations of the wicked. - from Slashdot ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
Daniel wrote: flyguy wrote: Phillip Jones wrote: flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail news Network/ Storage. uncheck compact files when K can be saved. then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole lot of issues. I just checked, and that's the way it is set up, and I do manually compact hers whenever I notice mine being compacted (it's set auto). Hmmm. I now think she was having another problem that looked similar, and it got misdiagnosed - recently, our ISP was getting really slow on some mail accounts when a message of 2 or 3 mb was downloading, so that was probably it. I am disappointed I can't set a time, or that SM can't work around normal email operations when compacting, but it's an infrequent irritant. Thanks for the suggestion - still the best idea. Does your wife have all her mail in a single folder or has she broken the mail up into yearly folder for different mail, e.g. I store all my past mail in folders under the Local Folders as 2009_Family, 2008_Family, 2009_Work, 2008_Work, etc., etc.. Taking a closer look, I can see the biggest one is the Trash at ~7000 messages. That's with a 60 day retention period. The Inbox is only 200, but at times gets closer to 1000; again, a 60 day retention policy. She belongs to a number of busy sewing and quilting groups, which are filtered to individual folders, but she deletes most of those messages, so they don't build up. As long as I remember to compact manually now and then when she's not at her desk, then usually no complaints. This last one was probably due to an ISP quirk, and not the compacting. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail news Network/ Storage. uncheck compact files when K can be saved. then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole lot of issues. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.04 - compacting folders at convenient times
Phillip Jones wrote: flyguy wrote: My wife has some folders with 5000-7000 messages, which take a long time to compact, even though it's a dual core machine. Is there any way to set a time for SM to do the compacting, so it doesn't block normal use of the email? Turn off auto Compacting Preferences (settings) Mail news Network/ Storage. uncheck compact files when K can be saved. then do the compacting manually. Since I did so I stopped a whole lot of issues. I just checked, and that's the way it is set up, and I do manually compact hers whenever I notice mine being compacted (it's set auto). Hmmm. I now think she was having another problem that looked similar, and it got misdiagnosed - recently, our ISP was getting really slow on some mail accounts when a message of 2 or 3 mb was downloading, so that was probably it. I am disappointed I can't set a time, or that SM can't work around normal email operations when compacting, but it's an infrequent irritant. Thanks for the suggestion - still the best idea. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
