Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-08 Thread Bill Davidsen

Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 22:26:

On 04/06/2012 12:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11:

...

I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.



It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail.

I did. I sent it to you directly. And here was my reply (off list):

Sure I did:

Message-ID:4f7e5f5f.8000...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0700
From: NoOpgl...@sbcglobal.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ray_NetRaymond-snipped
Subject: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
boundary=050205030303020805080402

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--050205030303020805080402
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also received the zip file attached to your repply:
Content-Type: application/zip;
name=test.zip
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
filename=test.zip
...

ok, ok, but what do you think about.
Your mail sent: Content-Type: application/zip;
and my mail sent: Content-Type: multipart/x-zip;

I think that is the root of the problem multipart for a one-part attachement.


You have said this multiple times, your mail is multipart, there's a text part 
and an attachment part. And since you see the parts, Seamonkey has attached the 
data just fine.


Let me ask a question so dumb I'm ashamed to mention it: since the paper clip is 
part of the theme (and looks different in various themes), you haven't by any 
chance chosen a theme wich omits the clip from the symbol for read mail have 
you? You are asking this about the standard default theme?


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-06 Thread Ray_Net

hawker wrote, On 06/04/2012 00:12:

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:
In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) 
presence of

an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the 
developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a 
save

attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web 
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x 
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than 
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.


For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments 
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web 
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.

Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.


I think that mapi nor pop is involved, because i did not have the 
attachment in the mail present in the Sent folder  This mail is 
just a copy of the outbox - in other word, the mail did not reach my isp 
servers.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-06 Thread hawker

On 4/6/2012 3:22 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

hawker wrote, On 06/04/2012 00:12:

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder)
presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the
developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a
save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.

For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.
Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.



I think that mapi nor pop is involved, because i did not have the
attachment in the mail present in the Sent folder  This mail is
just a copy of the outbox - in other word, the mail did not reach my isp
servers.


Gotcha. I missed that part.
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-06 Thread NoOp
On 04/06/2012 12:31 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 NoOp wrote, On 06/04/2012 05:11:
...
 I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
 wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.


 It's ok, but you have not used SM to send your mail.

I did. I sent it to you directly. And here was my reply (off list):

Sure I did:

Message-ID: 4f7e5f5f.8000...@sbcglobal.net
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 20:13:35 -0700
From: NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:11.0) Gecko/20120312
Firefox/11.0 SeaMonkey/2.8
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Ray_Net Raymond-snipped
Subject: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip
X-Enigmail-Version: 1.4
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=050205030303020805080402

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--050205030303020805080402
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

Also received the zip file attached to your repply:
Content-Type: application/zip;
 name=test.zip
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=test.zip
...
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Keith Whaley

Ed Mullen wrote:

Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.



Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G




Geez. http://www.armadilloweb.com/

Horrible contrast choices. Give me some contrast, ok? Sheesh, blue on
blue, awful. Can't read it. It's just horrible, visually. Can't get past
the visual to the content. And I am actually interested in Austin
stuff. This is horrible.


Ed, I agree with you.
Especially the left side menu items.
In the first place, black on dark blue is a difficult read all by 
itself, but when you do a mouse-over, the text in the menu items changes 
to white text on a light blue bar. Almost totally unreadable.


keith whaley


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right 
handside with the zip file name.

After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip 
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the 
attachment where i can save it.


So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file 
to myself.


(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the 
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file 
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)


Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2

Windows 7 professionnal with SP1
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread Ray_Net

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


This is the message source from the sent folder:

From - Thu Apr 05 22:05:27 2012
X-Mozilla-Status: 0001
X-Mozilla-Status2: 0080
X-Mozilla-Keys:
Message-ID:4f7dfb06.7000...@scarlet.be
Date: Thu, 05 Apr 2012 22:05:26 +0200
From: Myselfmy.s...@scarlet.be
User-Agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216 
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
MIME-Version: 1.0
To: Myselfmy.s...@scarlet.be
Subject: test attached zip
Content-Type: multipart/mixed;
 boundary=080608080401090005010904

This is a multi-part message in MIME format.
--080608080401090005010904
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit

test attached zip

--080608080401090005010904
Content-Type: multipart/x-zip;
 name=onexone.zip
Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64
Content-Disposition: attachment;
 filename=onexone.zip

UEsDBBQIAFavhUCnmwUqpwAAAB0BAAALb25leG9uZS5qcGeVzj0OgkAUBOB5Aruw
IcoGXBA1EAm6GEm4gYUJiZ7C23kNCw/hT+NNVij9aZzXfcWbMVfzRHBo9y2ICMfuYB7YgdkO
c2zGHMY5c0UghOeJaDjygzhKkjhSKp2XWTotZkrlm7xYrqp1NcnqptZNqSvdPyHOuXBFKESo
U5Xqv2POkC4IZNECA0mWJHPBGN3S97COo+BT0Sv9VPmtd/gWdS2WxBYnZOb2AlBLAQI/ABQA
AAAIAFavhUCnmwUqpwAAAB0BAAALACQAIABvbmV4b25lLmpwZwoAIAAA
AQAYAOwWQIBmE80B7BZAgGYTzQGs/y6AZhPNAVBLBQYAAQABAF0AAADQAAA=
--080608080401090005010904--


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread hawker

On 4/5/2012 3:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:

NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a
window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.

Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G


Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.


I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right
handside with the zip file name.
After sent 
Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip
BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the
attachment where i can save it.

So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file
to myself.

(I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the
hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file
attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:10.0.2) Gecko/20120216
Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
Windows 7 professionnal with SP1


Any chance your getting e-mail via MAPI and not POP?
I have seen disappearing attachments (that I can still get via the web 
interface) with MAPI e-mail but it all works fine with POP.
This has been happening for quite a while however (since early 2.x 
versions). It seems some clients encode the e-mail differently than 
others and so I have the issue more with certain sending clients only.


For example I have one customer who is unable to send me attachments 
that I can retrieve in SM but they are always there when I use the web 
interface. It is something about that particular clients e-mail only.

Yahoo mail seems to be the worst offender.


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-05 Thread NoOp
On 04/05/2012 12:34 PM, Ray_Net wrote:
 NoOp wrote, On 05/04/2012 05:20:
...
 @Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
 2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.

 I cannot show you inexistant stuff :-)
 I have done a test sending a mail with an attached zip file to myself:
 When i compose it, i see the attachment window in the upper right 
 handside with the zip file name.
 After sent 
 Both in the inbox folder and in the sent folder, i see the paperclip 
 BUT if i click on the mail to read it in the preview window...
 ...The paperclip disappear and there is no small window with the 
 attachment where i can save it.

OK, I still cannot reproduce Ray. However, I do see that the paperclip
is so small as to appear inexistent when the 'Attachments' column is not
selected. I've not noticed in the past as I turn on the 'Attachments'
column; that gives me a large paperclip. Doing that also removes the
paperclip from the 'envelope', but that's OK with me.

 
 So i am unable to retrieve a zip file sent. and i cannot send a zip file 
 to myself.

I am able to send and retrieve. I'll send you a zip file directly if you
wish. You can then let me know if you receive it.

 
 (I have done a test to and from a hotmail mail - and all goes well the 
 hotmail inbox permit the save and when SM receive a mail with a zip file 
 attached the SM mail inbox permit also the save of this file)

Then perhaps your ISP is stripping the zip?

 
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 Firefox/10.0.2 SeaMonkey/2.7.2
 Windows 7 professionnal with SP1

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Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread Ray_Net
In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of 
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.

But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?
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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread Ray_Net

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:
In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of 
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.

But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?
I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window 
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save 
attachment.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Gordon

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.


Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed 
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.


Michael G

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread Ed Mullen

Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.


Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments. They may carry bugs.

Michael G



Geez.  http://www.armadilloweb.com/

Horrible contrast choices. Give me some contrast, ok?  Sheesh, blue on 
blue, awful. Can't read it. It's just horrible, visually.  Can't get 
past the visual to the content.  And I am actually interested in Austin 
stuff.  This is horrible.


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 04/04/2012 18:03, Ray_Net told the world:
 In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of 
 an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
 But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
 Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

Just checked here -- the paperclip icon displays correctly for messages
containing attached zip files, both on sent items and on inbox. I
have no idea why this wouldn't be working for you.

SM 2.8, Windows 7 x64.


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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread NoOp
On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote:
 Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:
 In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
 an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
 But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
 Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?
 I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
 located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
 attachment.
 
 Ray,
 
 This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed 
 to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.
 
 Michael G
 

Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.

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Re: Missing paper clip if attachment file is a .zip

2012-04-04 Thread Michael Gordon

NoOp wrote:

On 04/04/2012 05:19 PM, Michael Gordon wrote:

Ray_Net wrote:

Ray_Net wrote, On 04/04/2012 23:03:

In the sent folder (i have not tested in the inbox folder) presence of
an attachement is displayed by then image of a paper clip.
But when the attached file is a .zip one, the image is missing 
Is this another bug of SM or a feature invented by the developpers ?

I should also add the fact that i did not see the attachment in a window
located right of the headers. So no way to retrieve it by doing a save
attachment.


Ray,

This smacks of invention by the developers, because no one is supposed
to send .zip attachments.  They may carry bugs.

Michael G



Really? And just how did you come to that conclusion?

Perhaps *you* have that issue (if you've even tested and I doubt you
did) because you are running an old and insecure version of SeaMonkey?

Post a screenshot with a sent + zip  show us what you see.

@Ray: I cannot reproduce with SeaMonkey (linux and Windows) versions
2.7-9. Post a screenshot somewhere.



You are correct in that I am using an older version.  I got tired of all 
the upgrades breaking all the ad-ons, themes, and extensions.  I 
uninstalled the last one, 2.8, and regressed back to 2.3 where 
everything now works correctly.


You cannot work in a productive arena when you major tool breaks all the 
supporting tools.  Its like a carpenter building a house with a rubber 
crutch.


Michael G



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