Re: Old Eyes

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Ben09880 wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Tiresias PCfont Z

A wonderful share!  Thank You Roger!

Definitely easier to read.  :)

Sounds good, now how do I install it?  I used ufonts.com to
get to freedailydownloads.com where I selected ezfonts and
then selected install. I waited a little while until I could
select finish. I now have a icon called ez fonts but it only
works with files, I need it to work with sea monkey's browser.

I'm not sure I follow what you did there, but here's how I would do it.
Download the font from here (right click the link "pcfont" and save the 
zip to desktop):

http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/fonts_download.htm
Extract files to a convenient location, such as the desktop.
Then do what your OS tells you to do to install it. In Win7 for 
instance, just right click and select "Install".


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Re: Old Eyes

[Ben09880]

Roger Fink wrote:

Tiresias PCfont Z


A wonderful share!  Thank You Roger!

Definitely easier to read.  :)
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Re: Old Eyes

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"Lee"  wrote in message 
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> Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
> it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
> for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
> incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
> and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
> than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
> there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
> to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
> 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
> am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
> body of the msg!  Thanks!

Try Verdana font for everything. It is the most readable of all fonts. When 
my myopia and cataracts were really bothering me, I switched many years ago 
to Verdana font on all browsers for everything. It made a big difference in 
readability and although I had cataract surgery in 2010, and got premium 
lens implants so I have no need of glasses or contact lenses now, I still 
use ONLY Verdana font.  GRC.com is presented entirely in Verdana font if you 
want an example of it.

You could also increase your Windows DPI to 120%. I still use a larger DPI 
as, again, I prefer it that way even though I can read tiny fonts now...why 
do so? I set a minimum font size also that is comfortable and I do not allow 
websites to over ride any of my settings. I seldom run into problems. 


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Re: Old Eyes

[Glenn]

PhillipJones wrote:

GerardJan wrote:

Glenn wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 

Ben09880 wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Tiresias PCfont Z

A wonderful share! Thank You Roger!

Definitely easier to read. :)

Sounds good, now how do I install it? I used ufonts.com to
get to freedailydownloads.com where I selected ezfonts and
then selected install. I waited a little while until I
could
select finish. I now have a icon called ez fonts but it
only
works with files, I need it to work with sea monkey's
browser.

I'm not sure I follow what you did there, but here's how I
would do it.
Download the font from here (right click the link "pcfont"
and save the zip to desktop):
http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/fonts_download.htm
Extract files to a convenient location, such as the
desktop.
Then do what your OS tells you to do to install it. In Win7
for instance, just right click and select "Install".


I first tried doing it the way you say but without
direction of how to
proceed
after download I decided to look for a tool and that's
when I found
ezfonts.
I've been installing fonts since I attached a seven pin
matrix printer
to a 3741
(as I recall) key entry station but I'm now too old to be
using
anything but a
tool.


I bought an Epson 87 foto printer for 69 euro, *completely
postscript* !

suc6 and it is primavera here

regards



That is old! Most Software these days especially Microsoft
Office and others don't even accept Postscript its either
TrueType or OpenType based on TrueType only.

I need to clarify as ezfont is a truetype font tool, the 
postscript reference is irrelevant.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Glenn]

Roger Fink wrote:



 Original Message 

Ben09880 wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Tiresias PCfont Z

A wonderful share!  Thank You Roger!

Definitely easier to read.  :)

Sounds good, now how do I install it?  I used ufonts.com to
get to freedailydownloads.com where I selected ezfonts and
then selected install. I waited a little while until I could
select finish. I now have a icon called ez fonts but it only
works with files, I need it to work with sea monkey's
browser.

I'm not sure I follow what you did there, but here's how I
would do it.
Download the font from here (right click the link "pcfont"
and save the zip to desktop):
http://www.tiresias.org/fonts/fonts_download.htm
Extract files to a convenient location, such as the desktop.
Then do what your OS tells you to do to install it. In Win7
for instance, just right click and select "Install".

I first tried doing it the way you say but without direction 
of how to proceed after download I decided to look for a 
tool and that's when I found ezfonts.  I've been installing 
fonts since I attached a seven pin matrix printer to a 3741 
(as I recall) key entry station but I'm now too old to be 
using anything but a tool.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Glenn]

Ben09880 wrote:

Roger Fink wrote:

Tiresias PCfont Z


A wonderful share!  Thank You Roger!

Definitely easier to read.  :)


Sounds good, now how do I install it?  I used ufonts.com to 
get to freedailydownloads.com where I selected ezfonts and 
then selected install. I waited a little while until I could 
select finish. I now have a icon called ez fonts but it only 
works with files, I need it to work with sea monkey's browser.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Lee]

On 5/18/13, Bill Davidsen  wrote:
> Lee wrote:
>> Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
>> it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
>> for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
>> incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
>> and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
>> than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
>> there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
>> to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
>> 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
>> am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
>> body of the msg!  Thanks!
>
> One thing you can do is reduce the pixels on your screen, which may make your
> wallpaper less beautiful but will make everything bigger. On Linux you can
> usually do that on a temporary basis, Windows generally wants to bend you to
> its will and learn to cope with the default behavior.
>
> I had my screen at 1600x900 and the wallpaper looked great, I could get a
> ton of
> stuff on the screen at the same time without using a bunch of desktops, and
> the only issue was that I could READ the stuff :-(
>
> Changed to a less ambitious resolution and the issue went away.

Whenever I've tried making the screen resolution less than what the
monitor can support the display always seems a bit fuzzy.  Changing
the dots per inch on the display works better for me.  Windows Vista
is easy to change - right click on the desktop, select personalize, on
the new popup window select 'Adjust font size (DPI)' and from there
you can pick 'Larger Scale (120 DPI) - make text more readable' or
'custom DPI' if you want the text even larger.


> Oh, I also have a pair of glasses optimized to exactly my normal viewing
> distance, and it was a well spent $200 to go with top quality hardware. That
> helps old eyes, too.

+1
computer glasses are the way to go.  It's so much nicer being able to
read the screen without having to go with the equivalent of a 20 point
font size as the default.

Lee
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Old Eyes

[Lori]

Thanks, Barry, but I don't need magnifying.  My only vision problem is glare
from a white or light background.
I can work long days with white on black, and no eyestrain or headaches.  I
really recommend it.
Lori 

Message: 2
Date: Mon, 20 May 2013 13:38:18 -0400
From: Barry Smith 
To: Lee 
Cc: "support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org"
    
Subject: Re: Old Eyes
Message-ID:

Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

I am not an official seamonkey contact, just a user like you.

Your operating system should have a magnification tool that should magnify
everything.

I know that Windows and Ubuntu (and even iOS) all have some screen
magnifying glass tool, that allows you to magnify sections of the screen.
 Using the OS magnification tool should allow you to leave the magnify on
the body of the email at default size.

There are also audio screen readers that let you rest your eyes a little
bit. ;)

Best of luck in your computer adventure.



On Friday, May 17, 2013, Lee wrote:

> Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
> it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
> for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
> incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
> and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
> than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
> there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
> to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
> 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
> am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
> body of the msg!  Thanks!
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Re: Old Eyes

[Barry Smith]

I am not an official seamonkey contact, just a user like you.

Your operating system should have a magnification tool that should magnify
everything.

I know that Windows and Ubuntu (and even iOS) all have some screen
magnifying glass tool, that allows you to magnify sections of the screen.
 Using the OS magnification tool should allow you to leave the magnify on
the body of the email at default size.

There are also audio screen readers that let you rest your eyes a little
bit. ;)

Best of luck in your computer adventure.



On Friday, May 17, 2013, Lee wrote:

> Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
> it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
> for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
> incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
> and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
> than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
> there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
> to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
> 18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
> am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
> body of the msg!  Thanks!
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Old Eyes

[Lori]

I use white on black for everything to avoid white or other light-colored
backgrounds; not just SM.
My daughter recoiled when she saw it, but it doesn't take much getting used
to, and it's real easy on the eyes.

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   1. Re: NASA live tv feed (Geoff Welsh)
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   3. Re: ClassNotFoundException ErroreaMonke (Paul B. Gallagher)
   4. Re: Is there a way to highlight more than one cookies and
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   9. Re: NASA live tv feed (Paul B. Gallagher)
  10. Re: Old Eyes (Roger Fink)


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Message: 1
Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 12:17:51 -1000
From: Geoff Welsh 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
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PhillipJones wrote:
> Paul wrote:
>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>> W3BNR wrote:
>>>> Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
>>>> it's working
>>>> in IE with VLC;
>>>>
>>>> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/
>>>>
>>>>
>>> How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
>>> few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.
>>
>> Works great with SM1119.
> works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions
>

Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I 
don't even know there is a VLC plug-in.

GW


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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 19:41:39 -0400
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On 5/19/2013 6:17 PM Geoff Welsh submitted the following:
> PhillipJones wrote:
>> Paul wrote:
>>> Bill Davidsen wrote:
>>>> W3BNR wrote:
>>>>> Can't view it in SM 2.8 with VLC Media Player (not downloadin), but
>>>>> it's working
>>>>> in IE with VLC;
>>>>>
>>>>> http://sites.wff.nasa.gov/webcast/
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>> How does it work with work with versions of SM released in the last
>>>> few years? They might support something like a recent plugin.
>>>
>>> Works great with SM1119.
>> works For me 2.0.14 SeaMonkey Mac versions
>>
> 
> Ditto, however it is using Flash, not VLC, as the OP asked about.  I don't
even
> know there is a VLC plug-in.
> 
> GW

vlc 2.0.6.0 plug-on works with SM.


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Date: Sun, 19 May 2013 20:22:35 -0400
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PhillipJones wrote:
> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>> PhillipJones wrote:
>>> Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
>>>> William Greenwood wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.8; rv:20.0)
>>>>> Gecko/20100101 Firefox/20.0 SeaMonkey/2.17.1
>>>>>
>>>>> Until recently I had no problem, but now I get a
>>>>> ClassNotFoundException
>>>>> error when attempting to access the following chart
>>>>>
>>>>> <http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX >
>>>>> ...
>>>>
>>>> Not your fault, not SeaMonkey&#x

Re: Old Eyes

[Roger Fink]

 Original Message 

Old is right!  For a person with reactive glare problems caused by a
cataract, white on black eliminates the problem, especially when you're on
the one-eyed monster for long hours.  Also, I don't understand why web
designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds.  I have to
squint to see them.
Using Windows 7 I've made the "high contrast" change there and have been
doing everything in white on black for years.  Learned that with Word
Perfect long ago.
One minor problem:  Some website "submit"-type boxes may not show up on the
black background, so I simply stab around with the tab key to find them.
If I can't negotiate through a site easily, I switch to a white browser,
which I keep available for that purpose.

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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 20:18:59 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.

Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.


No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids just
don't
notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think trying to see a
traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why there's a "backlit"
option on cameras.


White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...


I'm not sure that's relevant to the technical issues... I like green on
black
personally, that's also not relevant.


As someone who has experienced this firsthand, I share your disdain of 
close contrast text/background websites.


While I have nothing against garage bands, since Mozart is close by when 
things head south, white font on black background is pretty radical 
surgery. I'd opt for cataract surgery first, but until that happens 
consider overriding the website font with a font that overrides all 
webpage fonts, which Mozilla allows you to do. Tiresias PCfont Z was 
designed specifically to enhance readability on computer screens. It's 
freely available for download, and I find it excellent.






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Re: Old Eyes

[WaltS]

On 05/19/2013 09:44 AM, Lori wrote:

Also, I don't understand why web
designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds.  I have to
squint to see them.


See my post in mozilla.general titled "Amazing change in viewing sites". 
It is amazing what a little display adjustment can do for your browsing 
experience.


Not all, but a lot of those sites you think are designed with 
light-colored fonts, on white or light backgrounds, are actually black 
fonts on darker backgrounds.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Lee]

I did try the white fonts on a black background and yes the body of the
msg was much easier to read but the portion I have trouble reading is
the listing of incoming msgs and nothing changed there.  That is where
my primary problem is.  As far as the body goes a Ctrl and + makes 
reading a lot easier by increasing the fonts.  Thank everyone for your

responses.

Rufus wrote:

You may want to try looking at the assistive settings/prefs for your
basic OS - Mac OS has system wide settings under Universal Access to aid
those with vision impairment.  Sometimes color inversion vice simple
black/white inversion can help, as well as adjusting contrast setting.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Rufus]

You could also try cyan or magenta on black and see if that's more 
visible/easier on your eyes than white text.  Under SM 
Preferences-Appearance-Colors you can force-choose the colors for text 
and background if you uncheck Use System Colors, and also check Use my 
chosen colors (which may make pictures look funny on websites).  This 
should affect both Panes.


You can also force SM font size under Preferences-Appearance-Fonts; 
could just be a matter of picking one that is more visible for you.


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Lee wrote:

I did try the white fonts on a black background and yes the body of the
msg was much easier to read but the portion I have trouble reading is
the listing of incoming msgs and nothing changed there.  That is where
my primary problem is.  As far as the body goes a Ctrl and + makes
reading a lot easier by increasing the fonts.  Thank everyone for your
responses.

Rufus wrote:

You may want to try looking at the assistive settings/prefs for your
basic OS - Mac OS has system wide settings under Universal Access to aid
those with vision impairment.  Sometimes color inversion vice simple
black/white inversion can help, as well as adjusting contrast setting.




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Old Eyes

[Lori]

Old is right!  For a person with reactive glare problems caused by a
cataract, white on black eliminates the problem, especially when you're on
the one-eyed monster for long hours.  Also, I don't understand why web
designers use light-colored fonts on white or light backgrounds.  I have to
squint to see them.
Using Windows 7 I've made the "high contrast" change there and have been
doing everything in white on black for years.  Learned that with Word
Perfect long ago.
One minor problem:  Some website "submit"-type boxes may not show up on the
black background, so I simply stab around with the tab key to find them.
If I can't negotiate through a site easily, I switch to a white browser,
which I keep available for that purpose.

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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 20:18:59 -0400
From: Bill Davidsen 
To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
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Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
> Ben09880 wrote:
>
>> For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
>> easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
>> be black, with all text white.
>
> Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
> I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.
>
No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids just
don't 
notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think trying to see a 
traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why there's a "backlit" 
option on cameras.

> White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...
>
I'm not sure that's relevant to the technical issues... I like green on
black 
personally, that's also not relevant.

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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination.  -me, 2010


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Date: Sat, 18 May 2013 21:40:10 -0400
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To: support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org
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Bill Davidsen wrote:

> Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:
>> Ben09880 wrote:
>>
>>> For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
>>> easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
>>> be black, with all text white.
>>
>> Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
>> I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.
>>
> No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids
> just don't notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think
> trying to see a traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why
> there's a "backlit" option on cameras.

But a smaller pupil improves focus, so there's a bit of a trade-off. I 
personally find black on white easier to read with my particular brand 
of myopia; YMMV.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Bill Davidsen wrote:


Lee wrote:

Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!


One thing you can do is reduce the pixels on your screen, which may make
your wallpaper less beautiful but will make everything bigger. On Linux
you can usually do that on a temporary basis, Windows generally wants to
bend you to its will and learn to cope with the default behavior.


Depends on the assumptions.

If you assume the image is simply enlarged by using bigger pixels, then 
yes, you're right.


But if you enlarge the image and keep the same high resolution, you get 
a sharper image (fewer jaggies), and that's better. That's why bumping 
the zoom improves the body text and web pages.


As for the menus, you can enlarge those using the Windows display 
settings, PROVIDED that the developers have been smart enough to allow 
their various boxes to expand to fit the contents. In cases where a 
piece of text is allocated x by y pixels no matter what, you can easily 
increase the font size to a point where it becomes unreadable -- as in 
the case of your password dialog.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Paul B. Gallagher]

Bill Davidsen wrote:


Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.


Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.


No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids
just don't notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think
trying to see a traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why
there's a "backlit" option on cameras.


But a smaller pupil improves focus, so there's a bit of a trade-off. I 
personally find black on white easier to read with my particular brand 
of myopia; YMMV.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Bill Davidsen]

Lee wrote:

Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!


One thing you can do is reduce the pixels on your screen, which may make your 
wallpaper less beautiful but will make everything bigger. On Linux you can 
usually do that on a temporary basis, Windows generally wants to bend you to its 
will and learn to cope with the default behavior.


I had my screen at 1600x900 and the wallpaper looked great, I could get a ton of 
stuff on the screen at the same time without using a bunch of desktops, and the 
only issue was that I could READ the stuff :-(


Changed to a less ambitious resolution and the issue went away. I do have an old 
42in TV which has a bad picture as a TV. It was replaced under warranty as 
having bad video, but fed from the computer it's fine. Fits my lifestyle but not 
my desk space.


Oh, I also have a pair of glasses optimized to exactly my normal viewing 
distance, and it was a well spent $200 to go with top quality hardware. That 
helps old eyes, too.


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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination.  -me, 2010


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Re: Old Eyes

[Bill Davidsen]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.


Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.

No, bright text on black screen is easier to read (for everyone, kids just don't 
notice). When the screen is bright the pupils shrink, think trying to see a 
traffic signal when the sun is in your eyes. That's why there's a "backlit" 
option on cameras.



White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...

I'm not sure that's relevant to the technical issues... I like green on black 
personally, that's also not relevant.


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taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if
we persevere we will reach our destination.  -me, 2010


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Re: Old Eyes

[Felix Miata]

On 2013-05-17 11:28 (GMT-0400) Lee composed:


Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!


\chrome\userChrome.css can do what you need. There should be 
something somewhere that explains how to go about it if CSS is unfamiliar to 
you, probably on Mozillazine.


http://fm.no-ip.com/Css/Share/userChrome.css-2006OS2 is a version I used to 
use when I was doing my SeaMonkey email on OS/2 using Modern theme. 
http://fm.no-ip.com/Css/Share/userChrome.css-2013 is what I'm using now on 
Linux, which contains fewer customizations. Theme details may have changed 
some since then, so what I did there should be considered mere example from 
which to experiment. Changes only get applied on restart. Dom Inspector can 
be used to find elements you wish to change.


Aren't there other things you use that bigger fonts would help? Adjusting 
your whole desktop to use bigger fonts should affect SeaMonkey UI elements 
without affecting content elements.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Rufus]

Lee wrote:

Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!


You may want to try looking at the assistive settings/prefs for your 
basic OS - Mac OS has system wide settings under Universal Access to aid 
those with vision impairment.  Sometimes color inversion vice simple 
black/white inversion can help, as well as adjusting contrast setting.


...nothing we can do about the stupidly tiny buttons, though.

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Re: Old Eyes

[Ben09880]

Richard Owlett wrote:

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.


Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.

White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...



It is definitely a personal preference issue.
I find if I'm viewing pure text, "white on black" may be _perceived_ as
having less glare. It may depend on ambient light level. I noticed it
with a tablet I just purchased and have not experimented enough to pose
any hard and fast rule.



To be honest, I use 2 themes.  One black on white, the other white on 
black.  In a dark room, white on black seems easier to read.  Bright 
sunshine is a totally different story.  ;)

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Re: Old Eyes

[Richard Owlett]

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Ben09880 wrote:


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
be black, with all text white.


Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black?
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.

White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...



It is definitely a personal preference issue.
I find if I'm viewing pure text, "white on black" may be 
_perceived_ as having less glare. It may depend on ambient light 
level. I noticed it with a tablet I just purchased and have not 
experimented enough to pose any hard and fast rule.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Lee]

Hi Ben, when I increased the font size and then tried to sign in
the area where you sign in and insert your password and then hit
"enter" or what ever it say s is blocked by the larger print.
Sorry for not being clearer.  Old eyes and old brain.

Ben09880 wrote:

I also have not experienced the 'cannot see to sign in'.


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Re: Old Eyes

[Beauregard T. Shagnasty]

Ben09880 wrote:

> For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text
> easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to
> be black, with all text white.

Are you sure you want to do that? Isn't it backwards with white-on-black? 
I believe sharp black-on-white is much easier to read.

White-on-black is common on garage band web sites...

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Re: Old Eyes

[Ben09880]

First time ever using a newsgroup, sorry if I do this wrong.

Have you ever tried using magnification software?

Have you tried custom themes?

I am an aspiring theme creator and believe the changes you would like 
are possible.


For the time being, I have been able to create a theme that makes text 
easier to read by changing all background elements within SeaMonkey to 
be black, with all text white.  While it does help in some areas for 
legibility, it has the drawback of removing certain visual cues (I am 
clearly doing it wrong).


I have attempted to re-create your setup from your post, but have been 
unable to make the requested areas larger.  I also have not experienced 
the 'cannot see to sign in'.


You may contact me off-group if you wish; although I am almost certainly 
ill-prepared to assist you correctly.


Best wishes,

Ben


Lee wrote:

Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!


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Old Eyes

[Lee]

Got a question for someone, at my advanced stage of decay I am finding
it a problem to read Sea Monkey.  The print is so small in the area
for listing of names etch and across the top where you can read the
incoming mail (not the body of text)is so small.  I know I can hit Ctrl
and + and enlarge the body print.  But the rest if I enlarge it more
than 12 it blocks out some parts of Sea Monkey.  Such as sign in.  Is
there any little trick other than getting a 50 inch monitor to be able
to read this stuff.  I did do the pref thing and did make the minimum
18 but as I said it blocked the name/password so I could not use it and
am now back to 12.  Especially where it says Subject from date above the
body of the msg!  Thanks!
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