Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when using the Internet. -- The general, unable to control his irritation, will launch his men to the assault like swarming ants, with the result that one-third of his men are slain, while the town still remains untaken. Such are the disastrous effects of a siege. --Chapter 3 in Sun Tzu's The Ancient Art of War (Translated by Lionel Giles) /\___/\ / /\ /\ \ Phil/Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) | |o o| |Ant's Quality Foraged Links (AQFL): http://aqfl.net \ _ / Nuke ANT from e-mail address: phi...@earthlink.netant ( ) or ant...@zimage.com Ant is currently not listening to any songs on his home computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
Sun, 15 Nov 2009 09:12:17 -0800, /Ant/: I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when using the Internet. I prefer the suite as it is sharing my settings and preferences among its components - I don't want to maintain and synchronize the same settings among different applications the suite has as components. That's enough for me to stick with the suite, but I also like the more verbose SeaMonkey UI loaded with some features I miss from Firefox - the Forms tab in the Page Info removed in Firefox 3, for example. I don't care if the components of the suite run as separate processes / applications. In fact that's the only nice thing about the Tb/Fb combo - when a page in the browser is running a heavy Flash applet it doesn't freeze the other components, e.g. the Mail. Previously this could have been solved by the profile sharing proposal https://wiki.mozilla.org/Mozilla2:Profile_Sharing but it has been dropped and I'm looking forward the implementation of content processes https://wiki.mozilla.org/Content_Processes which would make the suite better than the Tb/Fb combo, I think. -- Stanimir ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
Ant wrote: I prefer suite products since I always use e-mails and Web browser when using the Internet. As well as I. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.net http://www.vpea.org mailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
NoOp wrote: On 11/12/2009 04:32 AM, MikeyG wrote: After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). So you've managed to find use the Form Manager that was present in Fx 2.0 in Fx 3.0? I suspect not as it's been missing in Fx since 2008. I meant to say that I miss the old Form Manager from earlier SeaMonkey versions whether using SM 2.0 or FF 3.5. MikeyG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
Interviewed by CNN on 13/11/2009 16:53, Rex told the world: You'll find most people here have done the opposite. I've been on FF since the time it was known as Phoenix, and TB a little less than that. I still miss Firefox, but I love the mail-browser integration of Seamonkey. And Seamonkey 2.0 uses the same codebase as Firefox and Thunderbird, which is why you're seeing similarities. And yes..extensions are what I miss the most. Many popular extensions are yet to be ported to Seamonkey..if at all. OTOH, now that Seamonkey's codebase is so close to that of FF+TB, in many, many cases the effort to port an extension to SM2 is trivial -- while in the old codebase, the programmer had to do include code needed only for Seamonkey. In some cases, an entire separate version ended up being written. Some extension developers stopped supporting Seamonkey at some point, leaving only old, outdated versions to SM users. So... my expectation is that, although *right now* there is some dearth of Seamonkey-compatible extensions, in a couple months there will be more than ever. For instance, the upgrade to SM2 already allows me to use the new version of DownThemAll, which does more stuff than the old, SM1-compatible version. The only thing I'll have to do without for a while is Multizilla -- which was *never* available for Firefox, by the way. But the developer has stated an intention of finishing the Suiterunner port he started sometime last year -- only, he's too busy with his RL job right now, so it will take some time. SM2 is not perfect, of course. Some changes in behavior annoy the hell of me -- but I'm not sure if those are real changes or it's just that I got so used to Multizilla I don't even remember the default behavior for Mozilla/Seamonkey. So I'm having to unlearn some habits... for now. Still, I'm not ready to leave SM for Firefox; in fact, now that there's a Portable SM2, I'll probably switch my PortableApps flash drive to Seamonkey too. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... I bought a cordless extension cord. * TagZilla 0.0661 * http://tagzilla.mozdev.org on Seamonkey 2.0 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
MikeyG wrote: After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). It appeared, to me, that SeaMonkey-2 used very, similar code as Firefox, and being that the 'Form Manager' was now, similar to what I remember Firefox's form management being like, I decided to give Firefox / Thunderbird a try. (I figured eventually, SeaMonkey-2 would become the main-stay and SeaMonkey 1.*.* would be obsoleted out.) So, far I do not regret my decision. The only, thing I am unsure of my decision to switch is because there are ssooo, many, Add-Ons and Tweaks and customizations available for Firefox / Thunderbird that I am spending a lot of time playing with all of this; not a good thing for a 'can't leave it alone', 'tweak this, tweak that' sort of user; (I just, can't leave well enough alone ... but it is fun!) MikeyG You'll find most people here have done the opposite. I've been on FF since the time it was known as Phoenix, and TB a little less than that. I still miss Firefox, but I love the mail-browser integration of Seamonkey. And Seamonkey 2.0 uses the same codebase as Firefox and Thunderbird, which is why you're seeing similarities. And yes..extensions are what I miss the most. Many popular extensions are yet to be ported to Seamonkey..if at all. - If you evaluate C++, you still get C, but C gets bigger. -- Erik Naggum - ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
On 11/12/2009 04:32 AM, MikeyG wrote: After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). So you've managed to find use the Form Manager that was present in Fx 2.0 in Fx 3.0? I suspect not as it's been missing in Fx since 2008. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Once Ya' go to FF 'n' TB, Ya' may, never go back!
After using Firefox and Thunderbird a few days, now, I don't know why I stayed with SeaMonkey for so long; sorry, SeaMonkey enthusiasts ... and 'specially, SeaMonkey Developers! I appreciated 'Form Manager'; (and miss it very, much; in Firefox and when still, using SeaMonkey-2), and that is what really, kept me from switching; (I could live without Composer, and I could be content using Thunderbird for my Email and Newsgroups). It appeared, to me, that SeaMonkey-2 used very, similar code as Firefox, and being that the 'Form Manager' was now, similar to what I remember Firefox's form management being like, I decided to give Firefox / Thunderbird a try. (I figured eventually, SeaMonkey-2 would become the main-stay and SeaMonkey 1.*.* would be obsoleted out.) So, far I do not regret my decision. The only, thing I am unsure of my decision to switch is because there are ssooo, many, Add-Ons and Tweaks and customizations available for Firefox / Thunderbird that I am spending a lot of time playing with all of this; not a good thing for a 'can't leave it alone', 'tweak this, tweak that' sort of user; (I just, can't leave well enough alone ... but it is fun!) MikeyG ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
