Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-16 Thread WaltS

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

WaltS wrote:


On 11/15/2013 07:38 PM, DoctorBill wrote:


Nope - it is still doing the same thing, even after clearing the Cookies
all out and I have allow cookies from this web site toggled
(http://us.mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?).

Has something been changed all across the Internet ?


Nothing has changed across the Internet.

Don't know about your other haunts, but I see the same behavior with
Yahoo using SM 2.22, and I have a clean profile.

I enter my Yahoo ID, password, check Keep me signed in, and on restart
I have to repeat the process.

Probably because SeaMonkey doesn't ask me if I want to remember the
Username and PW. What is up with that? OK. SM asks me to save PW on
another site.

It keeps me logged in if I navigate to other sites and come back to
Yahoo.

I don't clear any private data when closing SeaMonkey.

Yahoo seems to be the problem. Not SeaMonkey.


As noted elsewhere in this thread, if you allow only session cookies,
then SeaMonkey will wipe them at the end of the session (when you close
SM). That's what session cookies means.

If you want cookies to persist from session to session, you have to
change your cookie prefs:




I did have Accept for current session only selected, as I discovered 
and posted in my other reply at 8:23 pm last night, and somehow posted 
incorrectly.


All is well with Accept cookies normally.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

DoctorBill wrote:

Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


BTW - running on 2.12.1 SeaMonkey.

Bill
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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Jay Garcia
On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

 --- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.
 
 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.
 
 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.
 
 Help, please.
 
 Bill

Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?

Bill


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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by 
Internet Explorer.


For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete 
them by hand;


2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure 
Cookies is checked;


b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.


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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread DoctorBill

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the 
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.

Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it 
petered out.


My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing 
something !


Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

  --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
petered out.

My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
something !

Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill




OK. Disregard the previous post.

Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current 
session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.


I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites 
only selected.


Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread JAS
WaltS wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

 Help, please.

 Bill

 Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
 remembered from now on.


 If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
 would that be OK ?

 OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
 Internet Explorer.

 For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

 1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
 them by hand;

 2) The easy way (two-step process):

 a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
 Cookies is checked;

 b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.



 OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
 Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
 Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
 My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
 Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
 stop it.
 Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
 petered out.

 My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
 something !

 Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

 Bill



 OK. Disregard the previous post.

 Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
 session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

 I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
 only selected.

 Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
I am good to go--been this way for a long time.

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This means you are partly responsible for the mistreatment that you get at the 
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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread WaltS

On 11/15/2013 08:54 PM, JAS wrote:

WaltS wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

DoctorBill wrote:

Jay Garcia wrote:

On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

   --- Original Message ---


Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

Help, please.

Bill


Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
remembered from now on.



If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
would that be OK ?


OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
Internet Explorer.

For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
them by hand;

2) The easy way (two-step process):

a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
Cookies is checked;

b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or Ctrl-Shift-Del.




OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
stop it.
Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
petered out.

My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
something !

Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

Bill




OK. Disregard the previous post.

Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
only selected.

Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies


I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
I am good to go--been this way for a long time.




Not to drift to far off topic, but do you have any password extensions 
installed?


SM 2.22 does not ask to remember my Yahoo password, and I am just trying 
to assist DoctorBill.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread JAS
WaltS wrote:
 On 11/15/2013 08:54 PM, JAS wrote:
 WaltS wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Paul B. Gallagher wrote:
 DoctorBill wrote:
 Jay Garcia wrote:
 On 15.11.2013 09:31, DoctorBill wrote:

--- Original Message ---

 Something has been changed in my Seamonkey - I have to
 log in each time I visit ALL web sites.

 Before this, when I went to my usual web site haunts,
 the system remembered and I went in 'Logged In'.
 i.e. - stay logged in checked.  Now that doesn't work.

 I did not change anything in the my Cookies are handled.

 Help, please.

 Bill

 Remove cookies, then re-login to your sites and the info should be
 remembered from now on.


 If I remove all cookies with the Windows Internet Options tool,
 would that be OK ?

 OK but ineffectual. The Windows tool only removes cookies stored by
 Internet Explorer.

 For SeaMonkey cookies, there are two ways:

 1) The hard way: open Cookie Manager and for each site listed, delete
 them by hand;

 2) The easy way (two-step process):

 a) Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Private Data: make sure
 Cookies is checked;

 b) From a browser window, Tools | Clear Private Data or
 Ctrl-Shift-Del.



 OMG - I did the Easy Way - went to Edit|Prefs|ps and clicked the
 Cookies box.  Was not checked before that.
 Above that list was a Clear data Now - so I clicked it.
 My HD light came on for maybe 60 - 90 seconds !
 Then a window came up and said a Script was running, so I chose to
 stop it.
 Then the HD light came back on for another 60 -120 seconds before it
 petered out.

 My system has a 3 GHz CPU and that was a LONG TIME for it to be doing
 something !

 Haven't tried SM yetgoing to now.Pray.

 Bill



 OK. Disregard the previous post.

 Now that I have changed my Cookie settings from Accept for current
 session only to Accept cookies normally, I stay logged into Yahoo.

 I also have Allow third-party cookies for previously visited websites
 only selected.

 Edit  Preferences  Privacy and Security  Cookies

 I have 3 yahoo accounts and have it set to accept cookies normally and
 am using SM 2.2.21. I never have the box checked to stay logged in but I
 just double click on the username box and it brings up the three
 accounts in a drop down box, I pick one and it inserts the password and
 I am good to go--been this way for a long time.



 Not to drift to far off topic, but do you have any password extensions
 installed?

 SM 2.22 does not ask to remember my Yahoo password, and I am just
 trying to assist DoctorBill.
I have no password extensions--at one time it must have asked to save
the passwords.

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Re: Can't STAY logged in now - ????

2013-11-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

WaltS wrote:


On 11/15/2013 07:38 PM, DoctorBill wrote:


Nope - it is still doing the same thing, even after clearing the Cookies
all out and I have allow cookies from this web site toggled
(http://us.mg5.mail.yahoo.com/neo/launch?).

Has something been changed all across the Internet ?


Nothing has changed across the Internet.

Don't know about your other haunts, but I see the same behavior with
Yahoo using SM 2.22, and I have a clean profile.

I enter my Yahoo ID, password, check Keep me signed in, and on restart
I have to repeat the process.

Probably because SeaMonkey doesn't ask me if I want to remember the
Username and PW. What is up with that? OK. SM asks me to save PW on
another site.

It keeps me logged in if I navigate to other sites and come back to Yahoo.

I don't clear any private data when closing SeaMonkey.

Yahoo seems to be the problem. Not SeaMonkey.


As noted elsewhere in this thread, if you allow only session cookies, 
then SeaMonkey will wipe them at the end of the session (when you close 
SM). That's what session cookies means.


If you want cookies to persist from session to session, you have to 
change your cookie prefs:


Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | Cookies
...
Cookie retention policy
[x] Accept cookies normally
[ ] Accept for current session only

While you're there, go to Edit | Preferences | Privacy  Security | 
Passwords. If remember passwords is checked, all is well because SM 
will remember passwords for all sites that you don't explicitly exclude. 
If the box is not checked, yahoo must be an exception to the ban (see 
below).


So if what you want is to be prompted to login with stored passwords at 
the beginning of each session, stick with session cookies and tell SM to 
remember your username and password:


Tools | Password Manager | Manage Stored Passwords

This opens the Data Manager to the Passwords tab. In the search window 
(Search Domains) type yahoo (without the quotes) and see if there's 
a record. If so, click Show Passwords at the lower right and confirm 
that the username and password listed are correct. If not, delete the 
record for yahoo.com so SM will have to ask the next time you login.


While you're in the Data Manager, choose Permissions only from the 
pull-down list right above the search window. As before, search for 
yahoo. You should see one of two things:


1) an entry on the right that looks like this:
yahoo.com Save Passwords (•) Allow

2) no entry.

If your default above was not to save passwords but you see allow 
here, all is well (yahoo is an exception to the ban). And if your 
default above was to save passwords, and you see nothing here, then 
yahoo will obey the default and save passwords; again, all is well.


There would only be a problem if:

a) your default is to save passwords but the Permissions for yahoo say 
Never save. In this case, select the rule and click Remove to delete 
that ban and let yahoo follow the default;


b) your default is not to save passwords and yahoo is not listed as an 
exception. In this case, click Add, Set cookies, Add to create an 
exception for yahoo to Allow. Note that when you first add a rule, 
Use default is checked; you must select one of the options on the 
right to make an exception.


HTH

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