Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-16 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

MCBastos wrote:


Interviewed by CNN on 15/08/2012 15:34, Paul B. Gallagher told the
world:


In a browser window, F11 does toggle full-screen mode on or off;
this is not the same as a maximized window because it hides the
title bar and menu buttons. Interestingly, F10 disables F11, and I
can't reactivate it without closing the browser window and starting
over.


WFM; F10 does disable F11, but clicking F10 again enables back F11.


You're right, I must not have hit the center of F10 (sometimes I hit a 
key with a glancing blow and think I got it but the computer doesn't).


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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-16 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Ed Mullen wrote:
 A window can exist in one of (at least) three states : full-screen,
 windowed, or minimised (I believe a fourth, off-screen is possible).
 I was referring to the second of these, but I regret I cannot think
 of a synonym that might make my meaning more clear.

 Philip Taylor

 Umm, still not sure what you mean.  Typically, Windows windows can be:

 minimized

Sam term used.

 mazimized

I referred to that as full screen

 restore down ... meaning ... shrink it down to the last size it was
 before maximizing it

I referred to that as windowed.

 Well, unless your Windows works differently from MY Windows!  :-D

All Windows are different, but some are more different than others :-)

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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-16 Thread Daniel

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Snip


 (sometimes I hit a
key with a glancing blow and think I got it but the computer doesn't).



Computers!!  What would they know???

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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Ed Mullen

Jim S wrote:

I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?



That's what those keys already do.

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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Ed Mullen wrote:

Jim S wrote:

I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?



That's what those keys already do.


F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
to enter fullscreen mode here :

	Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715 
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11


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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Ed Mullen

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:

Jim S wrote:

I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?



That's what those keys already do.


F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
to enter fullscreen mode here :

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

Philip Taylor


Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine 
for me, same build.


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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Ed Mullen wrote:

 Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine
 for me, same build.

A window can exist in one of (at least) three states : full-screen, 
windowed, or minimised (I believe a fourth, off-screen is possible).

I was referring to the second of these, but I regret I cannot think
of a synonym that might make my meaning more clear.

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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread NoOp
On 08/15/2012 09:49 AM, Ed Mullen wrote:
 Philip TAYLOR wrote:


 Ed Mullen wrote:
 Jim S wrote:
 I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?


 That's what those keys already do.

 F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
 running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
 to enter fullscreen mode here :

  Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
 Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

 Philip Taylor
 
 Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine 
 for me, same build.
 

With lightning installed, F11 opens the 'Today Pane'. F5 does reload the
browser tab/window.

From Help (Browser keyboard shortcuts):
Page Viewing Shortcuts
Command: Full Screen (toggle)
Windows: F11
Mac OS: Cmd+Shift+F
Linux or Unix: F11 (may depend on window manager)

Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:14.0) Gecko/20120715
Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11
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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Jim S
On Wed, 15 Aug 2012 18:13:20 +0100, Philip TAYLOR wrote:

 Ed Mullen wrote:
 
   Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine
   for me, same build.
 
 A window can exist in one of (at least) three states : full-screen, 
 windowed, or minimised (I believe a fourth, off-screen is possible).
 I was referring to the second of these, but I regret I cannot think
 of a synonym that might make my meaning more clear.
 
 Philip Taylor

That may be my problem too. The keys work fine if I just have a plain old
webpage, but if I have a page with a window in it as happens with some
games then the f  buttons don't work when the curser is 'active'
Now I have realised that I will have no problem.
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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Philip TAYLOR



Jim S wrote:
 That may be my problem too. The keys work fine if I just have a plain old
 webpage, but if I have a page with a window in it as happens with some
 games then the f  buttons don't work when the curser is 'active'
 Now I have realised that I will have no problem.

Ah, now we are definitely talking about different things.  My window
was a single instantion of Seamonkey : I was not thinking in terms
of anything in particular being displayed /within/ the window, and
thought you were simply seeking an easier way of moving from
Seamonkey-windowed to Seamonkey-fullscreen.

Philip Taylor

P.S. My test was actually from within the e-mail client, not
the browser component.
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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Paul B. Gallagher

Ed Mullen wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:

Jim S wrote:

I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?



That's what those keys already do.


F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
to enter fullscreen mode here :

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

Philip Taylor


Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine
for me, same build.


On my system, the behavior is different in a mail/news window vs. a 
browser window.


In mail/news, F11 has no effect, regardless of window size.

In a browser window, F11 does toggle full-screen mode on or off; this is 
not the same as a maximized window because it hides the title bar and 
menu buttons. Interestingly, F10 disables F11, and I can't reactivate it 
without closing the browser window and starting over.


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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread Ed Mullen

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

Philip TAYLOR wrote:



Ed Mullen wrote:

Jim S wrote:

I would eg like f5 to Reload and f11 Fullscreen - can I?



That's what those keys already do.


F5 /may/ perform a reload (certainly the screen flickers), but
running Seamonkey windowed and pressing F11 does not cause it
to enter fullscreen mode here :

 Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; rv:14.0)
Gecko/20120715 Firefox/14.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.11

Philip Taylor


Not sure what you mean by windowed.  Both of those functions work fine
for me, same build.


On my system, the behavior is different in a mail/news window vs. a
browser window.

In mail/news, F11 has no effect, regardless of window size.

In a browser window, F11 does toggle full-screen mode on or off; this is
not the same as a maximized window because it hides the title bar and
menu buttons.


As designed.

Interestingly, F10 disables F11, and I can't reactivate it

without closing the browser window and starting over.



I have never tried (or tested) this in anything other than the browser 
window.


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Re: Can I assign function keys?

2012-08-15 Thread MCBastos
Interviewed by CNN on 15/08/2012 15:34, Paul B. Gallagher told the world:

 In a browser window, F11 does toggle full-screen mode on or off; this is 
 not the same as a maximized window because it hides the title bar and 
 menu buttons. Interestingly, F10 disables F11, and I can't reactivate it 
 without closing the browser window and starting over.

WFM; F10 does disable F11, but clicking F10 again enables back F11.

By the way, does anybody know what F10 is *supposed* to do in Seamonkey?
In Firefox, it (temporarily) shows the menu bar, but it doesn't seem to
have any role in SM. Otherwise, the behavior is consistent between the
apps: in FF, when the temporary menu bar is active, F11 is disabled.


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