Re: Emojicons support?

[Daniel]

On 9/01/2016 1:07 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 06/01/2016 14:49, Daniel wrote:

On 6/01/2016 4:10 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:


My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am
I missing?


Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe
UI Symbol. They will show up automatically.

Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in
recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with
an image stored in the current theme.

Phil


Phil, could it be that emoji are single character symbols, whereas
emoticon are multi-characters combinations which produce a symbol??


Emoticons are multi ASCII character combinations. Some Mail User Agents
(Like SeaMonkey) can recognize these and replace them with graphics. The
list of strings the MailNews code (shared with Thunderbird) is hard
coded and can't be extended - without fiddling with the code.

Emoji support just involves installing a font that has support for the
Unicode code points that are mapped to emoji. For example
Segoe-UI-Symbol or Symbola. As far as the Mail User Agent is concerned
emoji are just UTF-8 characters. Support for newer emoji involves just
installing a newer version of the font to the OS.

Phil


Thanks, Phil.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Philip Chee]

On 06/01/2016 14:49, Daniel wrote:
> On 6/01/2016 4:10 AM, Philip Chee wrote:
>> On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:
>> 
>>> My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am
>>> I missing?
>> 
>> Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe
>> UI Symbol. They will show up automatically.
>> 
>> Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in 
>> recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with
>> an image stored in the current theme.
>> 
>> Phil
>> 
> Phil, could it be that emoji are single character symbols, whereas 
> emoticon are multi-characters combinations which produce a symbol??

Emoticons are multi ASCII character combinations. Some Mail User Agents
(Like SeaMonkey) can recognize these and replace them with graphics. The
list of strings the MailNews code (shared with Thunderbird) is hard
coded and can't be extended - without fiddling with the code.

Emoji support just involves installing a font that has support for the
Unicode code points that are mapped to emoji. For example
Segoe-UI-Symbol or Symbola. As far as the Mail User Agent is concerned
emoji are just UTF-8 characters. Support for newer emoji involves just
installing a newer version of the font to the OS.

Phil

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Philip Chee]

On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:

> My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am I missing?

Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe UI
Symbol. They will show up automatically.

Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in
recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with an
image stored in the current theme.

Phil

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Rick Merrill]

On 11/21/2015 11:35 AM, »Q« wrote:

In ,
"David E. Ross"  wrote:


On 11/21/2015 5:05 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
getting more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


Found an extension for Thunderbird, that when run through the
Converter  provides an Emoji
Menu for adding them to your emails, or newsgroup posts composed in
HTML. 

The extension can be found at Emoji Menu
.

You do need the proper fonts installed on your machine to view them
all. In my case I had to install ttf-ancient-fonts in my Linux OS.

Just read an article today that  is one of the most popular
emotes.| |


I see a smiley-face emoticon in your reply.  Emoticons have been
supported in mail-news -- Thunderbird and SeaMonkey -- for quite some
time.  However, emoticons are NOT emojis.


You should be seeing an emoji, the Unicode character U+1F602, as long
as you have a font with a glyph for that character installed.

Emoticons are a different thing, just strings of ASCII characters such
as (c:   -- I think the emoticon support you're talking about involves
displaying some kind of graphic instead of the ASCII string.



My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am I missing?

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Daniel]

On 6/01/2016 4:10 AM, Philip Chee wrote:

On 05/01/2016 21:59, Rick Merrill wrote:


My observation is that emoji are fancy pants emoticons - what am I missing?


Emoji: If you have a font that has support for emoji - say Segoe UI
Symbol. They will show up automatically.

Emoticon: The mail user agent (SeaMonkey/Thunderbird) has built in
recognition for certain ASCII strings which it will replace with an
image stored in the current theme.

Phil

Phil, could it be that emoji are single character symbols, whereas 
emoticon are multi-characters combinations which produce a symbol??


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Re: Emojicons support?

[WaltS48]

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am 
getting more of them not showing up correctly.


Thank you in advance. :)


Found an extension for Thunderbird, that when run through the Converter 
 provides an Emoji Menu for 
adding them to your emails, or newsgroup posts composed in HTML. 


The extension can be found at Emoji Menu 
.


You do need the proper fonts installed on your machine to view them all. 
In my case I had to install ttf-ancient-fonts in my Linux OS.


Just read an article today that  is one of the most popular emotes.|
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Re: Emojicons support?

[»Q«]

In ,
"David E. Ross"  wrote:

> On 11/21/2015 5:05 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> > Ant wrote:  
> >> Hello.
> >>
> >> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
> >> getting more of them not showing up correctly.
> >>
> >> Thank you in advance. :)  
> > 
> > Found an extension for Thunderbird, that when run through the
> > Converter  provides an Emoji
> > Menu for adding them to your emails, or newsgroup posts composed in
> > HTML. 
> > 
> > The extension can be found at Emoji Menu
> > .
> > 
> > You do need the proper fonts installed on your machine to view them
> > all. In my case I had to install ttf-ancient-fonts in my Linux OS.
> > 
> > Just read an article today that  is one of the most popular
> > emotes.| |  
> 
> I see a smiley-face emoticon in your reply.  Emoticons have been
> supported in mail-news -- Thunderbird and SeaMonkey -- for quite some
> time.  However, emoticons are NOT emojis.

You should be seeing an emoji, the Unicode character U+1F602, as long
as you have a font with a glyph for that character installed.

Emoticons are a different thing, just strings of ASCII characters such
as (c:   -- I think the emoticon support you're talking about involves
displaying some kind of graphic instead of the ASCII string.
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Re: Emojicons support?

[David E. Ross]

On 11/21/2015 5:05 AM, WaltS48 wrote:
> Ant wrote:
>> Hello.
>>
>> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
>> getting more of them not showing up correctly.
>>
>> Thank you in advance. :)
> 
> Found an extension for Thunderbird, that when run through the Converter
>  provides an Emoji Menu for
> adding them to your emails, or newsgroup posts composed in HTML. 
> 
> The extension can be found at Emoji Menu
> .
> 
> You do need the proper fonts installed on your machine to view them all.
> In my case I had to install ttf-ancient-fonts in my Linux OS.
> 
> Just read an article today that  is one of the most popular emotes.|
> |

I see a smiley-face emoticon in your reply.  Emoticons have been
supported in mail-news -- Thunderbird and SeaMonkey -- for quite some
time.  However, emoticons are NOT emojis.

The question is:  Are emojis really necessary for intellegent
communication?

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

...

Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation


Hmm. I guess none for Windows XP SP3. :(


For WinXP You can add Symbola_hint.ttf from:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ (Symbola Symbol blocks of The Unicode
Standard http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip)

That will give you much of the symbols & pictographs, but will not be in
color (same as linux). To test just go to the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Blocks

and notice that you get undecipherable blocks instead of the
symbols/pictographs. While on that page, install the symbola ttf fonts
and the page should immediately change to show the symbols/pictographs
with the exception of a few.


Do I assume to put *.ttf files into c:\windows\fonts directory/folder?
If so, then I am not seeing the emojis -- http://i.imgur.com/Usd1EnN.png
for a screen shot/capture from Prefbar extension.


Replying from WinXP - sorry for the delay.

Yes you put the Symbola_hint.ttf file into that folder:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\administrator>cd c:\windows\fonts

C:\WINDOWS\Fonts>dir symb*
  Volume in drive C is Windows

  Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Fonts

08/04/2004  05:00 AM69,464 symbol.ttf
09/27/2015  10:07 AM 3,025,192 Symbola_hint.ttf
2 File(s)  3,094,656 bytes
0 Dir(s)   9,421,770,240 bytes free

And here is a WinXP screenshot from the Wikipedia link I gave you (with
the font info pasted into it):

http://s2.postimg.org/l8bzh6jm1/Symbola_Hintfor_Ant.png


Thanks. For some reason, they did not show those characters. :/
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their
smartphones with emojis.

If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird may or may not show them.


Correct. I kept asking them what those were since I couldn't see them 
correctly. :(

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 13/10/2015 15:38:

The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their
smartphones with emojis.

If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird may or may not show them.


Correct. I kept asking them what those were since I couldn't see them 
correctly. :(
Because SeaMonkey did not rely on installed font, so it did not use them 
as I said before:

> I understand BUT SeaMonkey had decided to NOT USE installed fonts.
> I think, that's because a lot of people did not have the expected 
fonts installed.

> Otherwise we will be obliged to install TOO many fonts.
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Re: Emojicons support?

[NoOp]

Ant wrote:

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
getting
more of them not showing up correctly.


Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation


Hmm. I guess none for Windows XP SP3. :(


For WinXP You can add Symbola_hint.ttf from:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ (Symbola Symbol blocks of The Unicode
Standard http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip)

That will give you much of the symbols & pictographs, but will not be in
color (same as linux). To test just go to the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Blocks

and notice that you get undecipherable blocks instead of the
symbols/pictographs. While on that page, install the symbola ttf fonts
and the page should immediately change to show the symbols/pictographs
with the exception of a few.


Do I assume to put *.ttf files into c:\windows\fonts directory/folder?
If so, then I am not seeing the emojis -- http://i.imgur.com/Usd1EnN.png
for a screen shot/capture from Prefbar extension.


Replying from WinXP - sorry for the delay.

Yes you put the Symbola_hint.ttf file into that folder:
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.

C:\Documents and Settings\administrator>cd c:\windows\fonts

C:\WINDOWS\Fonts>dir symb*
 Volume in drive C is Windows

 Directory of C:\WINDOWS\Fonts

08/04/2004  05:00 AM69,464 symbol.ttf
09/27/2015  10:07 AM 3,025,192 Symbola_hint.ttf
   2 File(s)  3,094,656 bytes
   0 Dir(s)   9,421,770,240 bytes free

And here is a WinXP screenshot from the Wikipedia link I gave you (with 
the font info pasted into it):


http://s2.postimg.org/l8bzh6jm1/Symbola_Hintfor_Ant.png
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
future versions? :/

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ray_Net]

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ray_Net]

Philip Chee wrote on 09/10/2015 16:33:

On 09/10/2015 14:35, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.

So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?

I believe that emoji support is already present in Core code. What else
is needed is a suitable emoji font available from the Operating System.
On certain platforms that support colour emoji we also can also display
that.

http://blog.symbolset.com/multicolor-fonts
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/


Phil

I think that my OS did not contains such fonts installed, and I will not 
install another font. ... so I prefer that SM don't care about that.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Philip Chee]

On 09/10/2015 14:35, Ray_Net wrote:
> Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:
>> On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:
>>
>>> The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
>>> user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
>>> automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
>>> Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
>>> ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
>>> for them.
>>
>> So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their 
>> future versions? :/
> Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?

I believe that emoji support is already present in Core code. What else
is needed is a suitable emoji font available from the Operating System.
On certain platforms that support colour emoji we also can also display
that.

http://blog.symbolset.com/multicolor-fonts
https://blog.mozilla.org/ux/2015/09/firefox-os-emoji/


Phil

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ray_Net]

WaltS48 wrote on 09/10/2015 15:42:

On 10/09/2015 02:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their 
smartphones with emojis.


If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird may or may not show them.



Yes, I understand BUT SeaMonkey had decided to NOT USE installed fonts.
I think, that's because a lot of people did not have the expected fonts 
installed.

Otherwise we will be obliged to install TOO many fonts.
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Re: Emojicons support?

[WaltS48]

On 10/09/2015 02:35 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Ant wrote on 09/10/2015 07:55:

On 10/4/2015 5:08 PM, David E. Ross wrote:


The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.


So, does that mean Thunderbird and SeaMonkey won't get them in their
future versions? :/

Did you feel that we need that ? Emoticons are not enough ?



He does, because his correspondents send him messages from their 
smartphones with emojis.


If his system has the appropriate fonts installed, SeaMonkey and 
Thunderbird may or may not show them.


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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.


Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation


Hmm. I guess none for Windows XP SP3. :(


For WinXP You can add Symbola_hint.ttf from:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ (Symbola Symbol blocks of The Unicode
Standard http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip)

That will give you much of the symbols & pictographs, but will not be in
color (same as linux). To test just go to the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Blocks

and notice that you get undecipherable blocks instead of the
symbols/pictographs. While on that page, install the symbola ttf fonts
and the page should immediately change to show the symbols/pictographs
with the exception of a few.


Do I assume to put *.ttf files into c:\windows\fonts directory/folder? 
If so, then I am not seeing the emojis -- http://i.imgur.com/Usd1EnN.png 
for a screen shot/capture from Prefbar extension.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[NoOp]

On 10/4/2015 4:14 PM, Ant wrote:
>>> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
>>> more of them not showing up correctly.
>>
>> Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?
>>
>> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation
> 
> Hmm. I guess none for Windows XP SP3. :(
> 

For WinXP You can add Symbola_hint.ttf from:
http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/ (Symbola Symbol blocks of The Unicode
Standard http://users.teilar.gr/~g1951d/Symbola.zip)

That will give you much of the symbols & pictographs, but will not be in
color (same as linux). To test just go to the wikipedia page:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Blocks

and notice that you get undecipherable blocks instead of the
symbols/pictographs. While on that page, install the symbola ttf fonts
and the page should immediately change to show the symbols/pictographs
with the exception of a few.

Of course the Win10/8/7 fonts will work, but I've not looked at the
Microsoft license, so I can't suggest you install those. :-)
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Jonathan N. Little]

Ant wrote:

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.


Why would you want it? ;-)

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Re: Emojicons support?

[C M]

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on 
Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/4/2015 5:28 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting 
> more of them not showing up correctly.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

Try the Smiley Fixer extension from
.
 The vanilla version cannot be installed in SeaMonkey beyond SeaMonkdy
2.26.  Before installing, you will thus either have to open the .xpi
file with a ZIP application and edit the install.rdf file to change the
maximum SeaMonkey version or else try using the Extension Converter for
SeaMonkey at .

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ray_Net]

C M wrote on 04/10/2015 17:04:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on 
Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.

Do you think that SM emoticons are based on Windows Fonts ?
I have here when I compose in HTML on the bar where I can do 
Bold/Italic/etc .. the last icon is an emoticon where I can choose 
between 16 emoticons. See them hereafter (visible if you are in HTML 
reading)
:-) , :-( , ;-) , :-P , :-D , :-[ , :-\ , =-O , :-* , >:o , 8-) , :-$ , 
:-! , O:-) , :'( , :-X .


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Re: Emojicons support?

[Cerise]

On 10/4/2015 11:44 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

C M wrote on 04/10/2015 17:04:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on
Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.

Do you think that SM emoticons are based on Windows Fonts ?
I have here when I compose in HTML on the bar where I can do
Bold/Italic/etc .. the last icon is an emoticon where I can choose
between 16 emoticons. See them hereafter (visible if you are in HTML
reading)
:-) , :-( , ;-) , :-P , :-D , :-[ , :-\ , =-O , :-* , >:o , 8-) , :-$ ,
:-! , O:-) , :'( , :-X .



Emoji aren't those legacy substitutions, they are actual characters like 
 and have been showing up more and more with the proliferation 
of fancy phones.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[NoOp]

On 10/4/2015 5:28 AM, Ant wrote:
> Hello.
> 
> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting 
> more of them not showing up correctly.
> 
> Thank you in advance. :)
> 

Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.


Why would you want it? ;-)


Because seeing symbols look weird. :P
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
getting
more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on
Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.

Do you think that SM emoticons are based on Windows Fonts ?
I have here when I compose in HTML on the bar where I can do
Bold/Italic/etc .. the last icon is an emoticon where I can choose
between 16 emoticons. See them hereafter (visible if you are in HTML
reading)
:-) , :-( , ;-) , :-P , :-D , :-[ , :-\ , =-O , :-* , >:o , 8-) , :-$ ,
:-! , O:-) , :'( , :-X .


Those are fine, but not emojis.



Emoji aren't those legacy substitutions, they are actual characters like
 and have been showing up more and more with the proliferation
of fancy phones.


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Re: Emojicons support?

[David E. Ross]

On 10/4/2015 4:11 PM, Ant wrote:
> When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am
> getting
> more of them not showing up correctly.
>
> Thank you in advance. :)

 SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on
 Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.
>>> Do you think that SM emoticons are based on Windows Fonts ?
>>> I have here when I compose in HTML on the bar where I can do
>>> Bold/Italic/etc .. the last icon is an emoticon where I can choose
>>> between 16 emoticons. See them hereafter (visible if you are in HTML
>>> reading)
>>> :-) , :-( , ;-) , :-P , :-D , :-[ , :-\ , =-O , :-* , >:o , 8-) , :-$ ,
>>> :-! , O:-) , :'( , :-X .
> 
> Those are fine, but not emojis.
> 
> 
>> Emoji aren't those legacy substitutions, they are actual characters like
>>  and have been showing up more and more with the proliferation
>> of fancy phones.
> 
> Exactly!
> 

The difference between emojis and smilies is that emojis require the
user to have the appropriate fonts installed while the smilies are
automatically generated by the mail-news component of SeaMonkey and
Thunderbird.  In the sample of four emojis, note that the two middle
ones are not shown on my PC.  Instead, I see boxes with the hex codes
for them.

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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.


Do you have the fonts necessary to view them?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emoji#Implementation


Hmm. I guess none for Windows XP SP3. :(
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Re: Emojicons support?

[Ant]

On 10/4/2015 8:04 AM, C M wrote:

Ant wrote:

Hello.

When will SeaMonkey support emojicons like in e-mails since I am getting
more of them not showing up correctly.

Thank you in advance. :)


SeaMonkey seems to be all right with this already. You appear to be on
Windows XP, so may need to find some updated fonts that include them.


Hmm, which fonts?
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