Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
MCBastos wrote, On 24/06/2012 05:35: Interviewed by CNN on 23/06/2012 17:44, Ray_Net told the world: Should i need to use this: Alternatively, Flash Player 11.3.300.262 is available to download from get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. ? Well, you can check the Flash version in the Control Panel applet, by about:plugins in Firefox/Seamonkey or by the Add-ons Manager. If you are still using the older version, yes, you might want to download the new version manually. If you prefer not to use Adobe's crappy download manager, you can get the regular installer (and the .MSI version for network deployment) from here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html about:plugins show me Version: 11.3.300.262 so it's uptodate. However i continue to have the creation of files into the: C:\Users\userid\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\generated-string.default\minidumps\ directory gr ... :-) not a blocked situation, just annoying ... ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html -- Thunderbird (16.0a1) Daily | openSUSE 12.1 | KDE 4.8.4 Practice Safe Computing. Create user accounts for your OS. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
WLS wrote: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html I'm not sure that this is a fix that works yet. My problem was never that SM or Firefox crashed, just that Flash videos didn't play. However, I'm wondering if Real Player isn't a problem. I notice four different Real Player dlls in my plugins. I also read that installing Flash 11.2 is not a good solution because of vulnerabilities. So I'm going to deal with this by 1) trying the new Flash 11.3 download. If that doesn't work, I'm going to uninstall Real Player. If that doesn't work I'll try Flash player 10.3. If that doesn't work I'm screwed. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Ken Rudolph wrote: WLS wrote: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html I'm not sure that this is a fix that works yet. My problem was never that SM or Firefox crashed, just that Flash videos didn't play. However, I'm wondering if Real Player isn't a problem. I notice four different Real Player dlls in my plugins. I also read that installing Flash 11.2 is not a good solution because of vulnerabilities. So I'm going to deal with this by 1) trying the new Flash 11.3 download. If that doesn't work, I'm going to uninstall Real Player. If that doesn't work I'll try Flash player 10.3. If that doesn't work I'm screwed. OK, I installed the new Flash 11.3.300.262 (which was the version that self-installed yesterday, actually; and I still had the problem with Flash). Unsurprisingly, the problem that I've been having with Flash videos on all sites came back just as I suspected it would. So then I UNINSTALLED Real Player entirely. That removed all the 4 Real Player program dlls from my SeaMonkey plugins... And VOILA! Flash now works on every site. Hopefully this tactic will solve the problem for anybody else who has it. Thanks mozilla.support.seamonkey group! I probably wouldn't have found the problem without following up on this last link. Who needs Real Player, anyway? I'll take my time before I try using *that* program again. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. If the problem affects every browser, it's not a SeaMonkey problem, it's a Flash problem. So downgrading your browser won't help. I'm going to assume you read the rest of this thread. -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Removed Real Player - VOILA!! Thanks it works. Ken Rudolph wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: WLS wrote: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html I'm not sure that this is a fix that works yet. My problem was never that SM or Firefox crashed, just that Flash videos didn't play. However, I'm wondering if Real Player isn't a problem. I notice four different Real Player dlls in my plugins. I also read that installing Flash 11.2 is not a good solution because of vulnerabilities. So I'm going to deal with this by 1) trying the new Flash 11.3 download. If that doesn't work, I'm going to uninstall Real Player. If that doesn't work I'll try Flash player 10.3. If that doesn't work I'm screwed. OK, I installed the new Flash 11.3.300.262 (which was the version that self-installed yesterday, actually; and I still had the problem with Flash). Unsurprisingly, the problem that I've been having with Flash videos on all sites came back just as I suspected it would. So then I UNINSTALLED Real Player entirely. That removed all the 4 Real Player program dlls from my SeaMonkey plugins... And VOILA! Flash now works on every site. Hopefully this tactic will solve the problem for anybody else who has it. Thanks mozilla.support.seamonkey group! I probably wouldn't have found the problem without following up on this last link. Who needs Real Player, anyway? I'll take my time before I try using *that* program again. === Email scanned by PC Tools - No viruses or spyware found. (Email Guard: 9.0.0.909, Virus/Spyware Database: 6.19980) http://www.pctools.com/ === ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. If the problem affects every browser, it's not a SeaMonkey problem, it's a Flash problem. So downgrading your browser won't help. I'm going to assume you read the rest of this thread. Yep, saw it now, congrats. As you've seen, it wasn't SM's fault. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
WLS wrote, On 23/06/2012 17:27: On 06/23/2012 11:15 AM, Ken Rudolph wrote: Paul B. Gallagher wrote: Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Same. Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Same. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? Try YouTube, Facebook, hbogo.com, and every other video site that uses Flash. Every single one of these sites in every browser (SeaMonkey, Firefox and Internet Explorer) when I have Flash 11.3 installed (but not Chrome, which doesn't have the problem). Trying to run a video just gives a blank (either black or white depending) screen, sometimes with a notice that An error occurred. Please try again later sometimes just blank. The problem disappears with Flash 11.2 installed; then all Flash sites work, no problem. How about a list of your add-ons? I don't think I have any add-ons. At least none that I have purposely added. If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. From previous threads (started when hbogo.com wouldn't approximately a week ago) I know that others have this problem too (but not everybody). Robert Kaiser responded that Adobe knows of the problem and is working on it. I've also read elsewhere that both Mozilla and Adobe are working together to fix this but can't find the solution. I'm glad for you that you don't have this problem. The solution was found according to this news article. http://www.h-online.com/open/news/item/Adobe-updates-Flash-Player-11-3-to-fix-Firefox-crashing-problem-1623783.html This new version of flash player . Will stop creating entries in the C:\Users\userid\AppData\Roaming\Mozilla\SeaMonkey\Profiles\generated-string.default\minidumps\ directory ? If yes... read the rest of this post. Secondly i read from the site you gives: Existing users with the built-in background updater for Windows http://www.adobe.com/devnet/flashplayer/articles/background-updater-windows.html enabled should automatically be upgraded to the new release. I did not have background-updater and i am surprised that the non-background auto-update-with-asking-to-update did not initiate a try to upgrade. Should i need to use this: Alternatively, Flash Player 11.3.300.262 is available to download from get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Interviewed by CNN on 23/06/2012 17:44, Ray_Net told the world: Should i need to use this: Alternatively, Flash Player 11.3.300.262 is available to download from get.adobe.com/flashplayer/ http://get.adobe.com/flashplayer/. ? Well, you can check the Flash version in the Control Panel applet, by about:plugins in Firefox/Seamonkey or by the Add-ons Manager. If you are still using the older version, yes, you might want to download the new version manually. If you prefer not to use Adobe's crappy download manager, you can get the regular installer (and the .MSI version for network deployment) from here: http://www.adobe.com/products/flashplayer/distribution3.html -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Garmin GPS. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.10.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Flash screwed up AGAIN!!!???
Ken Rudolph wrote: Win 7, SM 2.10.1 So, despite everything, apparently Flash got updated to 11.3 AGAIN, this time without my permission. And of course all the usability of flash files in SeaMonkey disappeared. This time I learned from my previous mistakes. Rather than going back to the last Windows restore point (sort of like killing a mosquito with a shotgun) I uninstalled version 11.3, went to the Adobe site and found the previous 11.2 version (it was a 159M zip file, of course, just to make things difficult). Downloaded that, unzipped it and chose the Netscape version of the 64bit .exe program, installed that...and lo, and behold, I have my Flash videos back! Now when is somebody going to get Adobe to fix this? Obviously it still is broken and this is getting really old now. I guess it doesn't help that for some reason sometimes the Flash 11.3 version works for some people. But I know I'm not alone...and it has happened to me TWICE! I can't believe there isn't a bigger hue and cry about this, and Adobe isn't begging our forgiveness, let alone fixing the problem. I have Win 7 and SM 2.10.1, and have never had a problem with Flash (my current version is 11.3). So there must be something else involved. Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:13.0) Gecko/20120615 Firefox/13.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.10.1 Windows 7 Pro SP1 (64-bit), fully patched. Could you post some links to sites that don't work? How about a list of your add-ons? If there's something peculiar about your setup, that would explain why there's no hue and cry -- because the rest of us aren't suffering. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey