Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-04-05 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/16/2017 04:51 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/16/17 4:50 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/16/2017 01:26 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/16/17 1:39 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store
it in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to
not have it in a profile.


The app, the profile, and mail all change and fail in their own ways.
Getting a new version of SM has caused a lot of trauma for some; like
"lost mail".  Why would you want to replace the profile just because
you got a new app version?  And why would you want to replace the mail
just because you got a new profile?  And why would you want to replace
any of those things just because you got a new OS version?  So I have
the OSs on an OS drive.  And apps and data on separate partitions on a
second drive.  And, they get backed up separately; mail often, profile
less, and OS hardly ever.


Richard wants to use mail with each separate browser profile he has, but
only has mail setup for Browser A as I understand it.



So, to answer your question, you must find the pieces.  To find the
profile, search for PREFS.JS and for mail/news, INBOX.  The profile is
a sub tree, and the mail is a sub-tree of the profile.   Copy the
profile tree to a neutral location and then copy the mail tree to a
different location.


That can be done and is the hard way.



In a previous post I said how to name and place profiles. After you
have placed the mail sub-directory, go to:
Mail client > Edit > Mail and News acct settings > Account > Server
settings > Local directory > Browse


I missed that post in this thread and still can't find it.




Browse to where you placed the mail tree, and select it.  That
account, in that profile, will then manage mail in the new location.
Repeat for every mail account in every profile.


He has mail setup for the browser A profile and he wants to share that
mail between the profiles of browsers B and C when he needs one of them.
All profiles are for the same version of SeaMonkey.



Have fun


I'm sure he is. I solved the problem in two ways, both fully documented
in posts in this thread.

The more I think about it, I'd prefer my Plan B. I would open browser A,
open Mail & Newsgroups, then when I wanted to use browser B or C, type
about:profiles in the address bar of browser A, go down the list and
select either of the other profiles and click the "Launch profile in new
browser" button.

That leaves the mail window open and the user has access to both browser
windows, so if they want to do something in browser B or C they can,
then close the window and still have the window for browser A open.

Not recommended if using different versions of the application.

YMMV



Perhaps YMMV should be in the subject line ;/
I've been following the discussion but won't have time to actually DO
anything until at least this weekend.

I may be doing things the "hard way" but that is at least partially by
choice. In retirement I'm learning a lot about subjects I could never
explore when I was working for a living.




Me too!

Trying to assist you, I just taught myself how to use multiple profiles
with the same email data, in two different ways.



Suspect I've missed something.
I'll *FLAG* your message so that I will notice your message next week 
when I surface from fighting other fires next week ;/


P.S.   any solution to lack of 960 hour days ;/
P.P.S. 960 not a typo ;/
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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-04-03 Thread Richard Owlett

On 04/02/2017 12:12 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I've been following the discussion but won't have time to actually DO
anything until at least this weekend.

It has been a lot of weekends.

What did you finally do to have multiple profiles share the same email
data?


Failed :{

The personal project that was the underlying motivation has problems 
such that not having convenient email while using that profile is minor.



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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-04-02 Thread WaltS48

Richard Owlett wrote:
I've been following the discussion but won't have time to actually DO 
anything until at least this weekend.

It has been a lot of weekends.

What did you finally do to have multiple profiles share the same email data?
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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread WaltS48

On 3/16/17 4:50 PM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/16/2017 01:26 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/16/17 1:39 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store
it in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to
not have it in a profile.


The app, the profile, and mail all change and fail in their own ways.
Getting a new version of SM has caused a lot of trauma for some; like
"lost mail".  Why would you want to replace the profile just because
you got a new app version?  And why would you want to replace the mail
just because you got a new profile?  And why would you want to replace
any of those things just because you got a new OS version?  So I have
the OSs on an OS drive.  And apps and data on separate partitions on a
second drive.  And, they get backed up separately; mail often, profile
less, and OS hardly ever.


Richard wants to use mail with each separate browser profile he has, but
only has mail setup for Browser A as I understand it.



So, to answer your question, you must find the pieces.  To find the
profile, search for PREFS.JS and for mail/news, INBOX.  The profile is
a sub tree, and the mail is a sub-tree of the profile.   Copy the
profile tree to a neutral location and then copy the mail tree to a
different location.


That can be done and is the hard way.



In a previous post I said how to name and place profiles. After you
have placed the mail sub-directory, go to:
Mail client > Edit > Mail and News acct settings > Account > Server
settings > Local directory > Browse


I missed that post in this thread and still can't find it.




Browse to where you placed the mail tree, and select it.  That
account, in that profile, will then manage mail in the new location.
Repeat for every mail account in every profile.


He has mail setup for the browser A profile and he wants to share that
mail between the profiles of browsers B and C when he needs one of them.
All profiles are for the same version of SeaMonkey.



Have fun


I'm sure he is. I solved the problem in two ways, both fully documented
in posts in this thread.

The more I think about it, I'd prefer my Plan B. I would open browser A,
open Mail & Newsgroups, then when I wanted to use browser B or C, type
about:profiles in the address bar of browser A, go down the list and
select either of the other profiles and click the "Launch profile in new
browser" button.

That leaves the mail window open and the user has access to both browser
windows, so if they want to do something in browser B or C they can,
then close the window and still have the window for browser A open.

Not recommended if using different versions of the application.

YMMV



Perhaps YMMV should be in the subject line ;/
I've been following the discussion but won't have time to actually DO 
anything until at least this weekend.


I may be doing things the "hard way" but that is at least partially by 
choice. In retirement I'm learning a lot about subjects I could never 
explore when I was working for a living.





Me too!

Trying to assist you, I just taught myself how to use multiple profiles 
with the same email data, in two different ways.


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/16/2017 01:26 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/16/17 1:39 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store
it in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to
not have it in a profile.


The app, the profile, and mail all change and fail in their own ways.
Getting a new version of SM has caused a lot of trauma for some; like
"lost mail".  Why would you want to replace the profile just because
you got a new app version?  And why would you want to replace the mail
just because you got a new profile?  And why would you want to replace
any of those things just because you got a new OS version?  So I have
the OSs on an OS drive.  And apps and data on separate partitions on a
second drive.  And, they get backed up separately; mail often, profile
less, and OS hardly ever.


Richard wants to use mail with each separate browser profile he has, but
only has mail setup for Browser A as I understand it.



So, to answer your question, you must find the pieces.  To find the
profile, search for PREFS.JS and for mail/news, INBOX.  The profile is
a sub tree, and the mail is a sub-tree of the profile.   Copy the
profile tree to a neutral location and then copy the mail tree to a
different location.


That can be done and is the hard way.



In a previous post I said how to name and place profiles.  After you
have placed the mail sub-directory, go to:
Mail client > Edit > Mail and News acct settings > Account > Server
settings > Local directory > Browse


I missed that post in this thread and still can't find it.




Browse to where you placed the mail tree, and select it.  That
account, in that profile, will then manage mail in the new location.
Repeat for every mail account in every profile.


He has mail setup for the browser A profile and he wants to share that
mail between the profiles of browsers B and C when he needs one of them.
All profiles are for the same version of SeaMonkey.



Have fun


I'm sure he is. I solved the problem in two ways, both fully documented
in posts in this thread.

The more I think about it, I'd prefer my Plan B. I would open browser A,
open Mail & Newsgroups, then when I wanted to use browser B or C, type
about:profiles in the address bar of browser A, go down the list and
select either of the other profiles and click the "Launch profile in new
browser" button.

That leaves the mail window open and the user has access to both browser
windows, so if they want to do something in browser B or C they can,
then close the window and still have the window for browser A open.

Not recommended if using different versions of the application.

YMMV



Perhaps YMMV should be in the subject line ;/
I've been following the discussion but won't have time to actually DO 
anything until at least this weekend.


I may be doing things the "hard way" but that is at least partially by 
choice. In retirement I'm learning a lot about subjects I could never 
explore when I was working for a living.



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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread WaltS48

On 3/16/17 1:39 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store
it in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to
not have it in a profile.


The app, the profile, and mail all change and fail in their own ways. 
Getting a new version of SM has caused a lot of trauma for some; like 
"lost mail".  Why would you want to replace the profile just because 
you got a new app version?  And why would you want to replace the mail 
just because you got a new profile?  And why would you want to replace 
any of those things just because you got a new OS version?  So I have 
the OSs on an OS drive.  And apps and data on separate partitions on a 
second drive.  And, they get backed up separately; mail often, profile 
less, and OS hardly ever.


Richard wants to use mail with each separate browser profile he has, but 
only has mail setup for Browser A as I understand it.




So, to answer your question, you must find the pieces.  To find the 
profile, search for PREFS.JS and for mail/news, INBOX.  The profile is 
a sub tree, and the mail is a sub-tree of the profile.   Copy the 
profile tree to a neutral location and then copy the mail tree to a 
different location.


That can be done and is the hard way.



In a previous post I said how to name and place profiles.  After you 
have placed the mail sub-directory, go to:
Mail client > Edit > Mail and News acct settings > Account > Server 
settings > Local directory > Browse


I missed that post in this thread and still can't find it.




Browse to where you placed the mail tree, and select it.  That 
account, in that profile, will then manage mail in the new location.  
Repeat for every mail account in every profile.


He has mail setup for the browser A profile and he wants to share that 
mail between the profiles of browsers B and C when he needs one of them. 
All profiles are for the same version of SeaMonkey.




Have fun


I'm sure he is. I solved the problem in two ways, both fully documented 
in posts in this thread.


The more I think about it, I'd prefer my Plan B. I would open browser A, 
open Mail & Newsgroups, then when I wanted to use browser B or C, type 
about:profiles in the address bar of browser A, go down the list and 
select either of the other profiles and click the "Launch profile in new 
browser" button.


That leaves the mail window open and the user has access to both browser 
windows, so if they want to do something in browser B or C they can, 
then close the window and still have the window for browser A open.


Not recommended if using different versions of the application.

YMMV

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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:



The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store
it in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to
not have it in a profile.


The app, the profile, and mail all change and fail in their own ways. 
Getting a new version of SM has caused a lot of trauma for some; like 
"lost mail".  Why would you want to replace the profile just because you 
got a new app version?  And why would you want to replace the mail just 
because you got a new profile?  And why would you want to replace any of 
those things just because you got a new OS version?  So I have the OSs 
on an OS drive.  And apps and data on separate partitions on a second 
drive.  And, they get backed up separately; mail often, profile less, 
and OS hardly ever.


So, to answer your question, you must find the pieces.  To find the 
profile, search for PREFS.JS and for mail/news, INBOX.  The profile is a 
sub tree, and the mail is a sub-tree of the profile.   Copy the profile 
tree to a neutral location and then copy the mail tree to a different 
location.


In a previous post I said how to name and place profiles.  After you 
have placed the mail sub-directory, go to:
Mail client > Edit > Mail and News acct settings > Account > Server 
settings > Local directory > Browse


Browse to where you placed the mail tree, and select it.  That account, 
in that profile, will then manage mail in the new location.  Repeat for 
every mail account in every profile.


Have fun

Ray



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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread WaltS48

On 3/16/17 12:31 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

WaltS48 wrote:



I think that is what I suggested in my Plan A, of creating a separate
mail profile, set it to open only in Mail & Newsgroups, leave it open,
and use whatever browser profile he needs

The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store it 
in a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


ray




Okay, please explain the steps to do this process, especially how to not 
have it in a profile.


Richard wants email associated with browser A to be accessible using 
browser B or browser C.


TIA

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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-16 Thread Ray Davison

WaltS48 wrote:



I think that is what I suggested in my Plan A, of creating a separate
mail profile, set it to open only in Mail & Newsgroups, leave it open,
and use whatever browser profile he needs

The difference is, I say get the mail out of the profile and store it in 
a neutral location.  Then any SM or TB can use it.


ray


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-15 Thread WaltS48

On 3/15/17 12:03 PM, Ray Davison wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:



I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.


So do nothing with them.  They will reside in their respectice profiles.


I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently.


SM made providing that trivial.  Each profile provides the means to 
designate where mail is located.  So, to repeat myself, get the 
mail/news out of the profile, put it somewhere you want it, and have 
each profile use it.





I think that is what I suggested in my Plan A, of creating a separate 
mail profile, set it to open only in Mail & Newsgroups, leave it open, 
and use whatever browser profile he needs


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-15 Thread Ray Davison

Ray Davison wrote:



I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently.


SM made providing that trivial.  Each profile provides the means to
designate where mail is located.  So, to repeat myself, get the
mail/news out of the profile, put it somewhere you want it, and have
each profile use it.


That even works cross app and cross platform.  My mail files began life 
in Netscape.  I have had SM and TB on Win and eCS all use the same mail 
files.


Ray


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-15 Thread Ray Davison

Richard Owlett wrote:



I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.


So do nothing with them.  They will reside in their respectice profiles.


I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently.


SM made providing that trivial.  Each profile provides the means to 
designate where mail is located.  So, to repeat myself, get the 
mail/news out of the profile, put it somewhere you want it, and have 
each profile use it.


Ray


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-15 Thread WaltS48

On 3/15/17 10:29 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 03:03 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 12:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary 
characteristic is

browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the
church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA






Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from
your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2
profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles 
showing

identical content.

But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to 
the

mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing
in a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)


Make backups of all profiles before tinkering.


*grin*
Didn't work. Not to say it's not possible just that it's not simple.




Plan B.

Profile A has your Mail & Newsgroups accounts, profiles B and C don't.
Correct?

Open Profile A.
Open the Mail & Newsgroups Window.
Go back to the Browser window.
Enter about:profiles into the address bar.
Select Profile B or Profile C, and click the "Launch profile in new
browser" button.
You will probably have to disable the Make SeaMonkey the default email
prompt. I did.
Go back to Browser A, select File > Close to close that window.
Repeat to open another profile while having the Mail window open at all
times.

Bottom line is you only really need one profile for mail, and you can
use as many as you need for the Browser window.

Both Plan A and Plan B would work for me.


Not what I'm looking for. I see the same ergonomic problems as the 
"Firefox + Thunderbird" solutions.


But I may be on trail of an acceptable solution. I requires a strange 
user.js . I  suspect what what I've done so far would have worked 
except I'm now using Linux and my profile with the mail and news setup 
had been migrated from Windows.


I have to investigate the purpose & syntax of the "extensions.xpiState"
Preference Name.

I have some other thing to attend to so I may not get back to this for 
a couple of days.


Thank you for your assistance.




So your Mail & Newsgroups open in your SeaMonkey Browser window?

No matter what you do you are still going to have 2 windows. One for the 
browser and one for mail.


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-15 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/11/2017 03:03 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 12:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the
church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA






Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from
your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2
profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles showing
identical content.

But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to the
mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing
in a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)


Make backups of all profiles before tinkering.


*grin*
Didn't work. Not to say it's not possible just that it's not simple.




Plan B.

Profile A has your Mail & Newsgroups accounts, profiles B and C don't.
Correct?

Open Profile A.
Open the Mail & Newsgroups Window.
Go back to the Browser window.
Enter about:profiles into the address bar.
Select Profile B or Profile C, and click the "Launch profile in new
browser" button.
You will probably have to disable the Make SeaMonkey the default email
prompt. I did.
Go back to Browser A, select File > Close to close that window.
Repeat to open another profile while having the Mail window open at all
times.

Bottom line is you only really need one profile for mail, and you can
use as many as you need for the Browser window.

Both Plan A and Plan B would work for me.


Not what I'm looking for. I see the same ergonomic problems as the 
"Firefox + Thunderbird" solutions.


But I may be on trail of an acceptable solution. I requires a strange 
user.js . I  suspect what what I've done so far would have worked except 
I'm now using Linux and my profile with the mail and news setup had been 
migrated from Windows.


I have to investigate the purpose & syntax of the "extensions.xpiState"
Preference Name.

I have some other thing to attend to so I may not get back to this for a 
couple of days.


Thank you for your assistance.


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread WaltS48

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 12:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA






Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2
profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles showing
identical content.

But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to the
mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing
in a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)


Make backups of all profiles before tinkering.


*grin*
Didn't work. Not to say it's not possible just that it's not simple.




Plan B.

Profile A has your Mail & Newsgroups accounts, profiles B and C don't. 
Correct?


Open Profile A.
Open the Mail & Newsgroups Window.
Go back to the Browser window.
Enter about:profiles into the address bar.
Select Profile B or Profile C, and click the "Launch profile in new 
browser" button.
You will probably have to disable the Make SeaMonkey the default email 
prompt. I did.

Go back to Browser A, select File > Close to close that window.
Repeat to open another profile while having the Mail window open at all 
times.


Bottom line is you only really need one profile for mail, and you can 
use as many as you need for the Browser window.


Both Plan A and Plan B would work for me.




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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/11/2017 12:18 PM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA



Well, I would create a separate profile for mail, then open it, go to
Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open", remove the check mark for "Browser" and check "Mail &
Newsgroups".

Then Quit, and restart using that profile in a separate window from any
of the other 3 setups. The I could open any of the others using their
profiles and my mail would be available.

Obviously the new mail profile would have no settings, so to easily fix
that I would copy the profile that currently has my email accounts
setup, from the profile that does have email accounts, to the mail
profile and live happily ever after.

Wait, let me try that. Oops, create the profile first, then copy the
contents of the profile that currently has your email accounts to the
new mail only profile.

Start SeaMonkey with that profile, change the "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open" setting, and from there forward that profile will only open with
the Mail & Newsgroups window.

Tested and verified to work as this message proves.

Sort of like having Firefox and Thunderbird. ;)


That is model I wish to avoid!


That model allows you to open all three browser profiles and  the mail
profile in separate windows.

Mail & Newsgroups already opens in a separate window when launched, so
you sort of have that model anyway.





Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2
profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles showing
identical content.

But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to the
mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing
in a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)


Make backups of all profiles before tinkering.


*grin*
Didn't work. Not to say it's not possible just that it's not simple.


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread WaltS48

Richard Owlett wrote:

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA



Well, I would create a separate profile for mail, then open it, go to
Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open", remove the check mark for "Browser" and check "Mail & 
Newsgroups".


Then Quit, and restart using that profile in a separate window from any
of the other 3 setups. The I could open any of the others using their
profiles and my mail would be available.

Obviously the new mail profile would have no settings, so to easily fix
that I would copy the profile that currently has my email accounts
setup, from the profile that does have email accounts, to the mail
profile and live happily ever after.

Wait, let me try that. Oops, create the profile first, then copy the
contents of the profile that currently has your email accounts to the
new mail only profile.

Start SeaMonkey with that profile, change the "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open" setting, and from there forward that profile will only open with
the Mail & Newsgroups window.

Tested and verified to work as this message proves.

Sort of like having Firefox and Thunderbird. ;)


That is model I wish to avoid!


That model allows you to open all three browser profiles and  the mail 
profile in separate windows.


Mail & Newsgroups already opens in a separate window when launched, so 
you sort of have that model anyway.






Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2 
profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles showing 
identical content.


But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to the 
mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing 
in a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)



Make backups of all profiles before tinkering.
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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread Ed Mullen
On 3/11/2017 at 10:32 AM, Richard Owlett's prodigious digits fired off 
with great aplomb:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA


Yes.  Simply create the same mail/news accounts in each profile.

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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/11/2017 10:56 AM, WaltS48 wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA



Well, I would create a separate profile for mail, then open it, go to
Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open", remove the check mark for "Browser" and check "Mail & Newsgroups".

Then Quit, and restart using that profile in a separate window from any
of the other 3 setups. The I could open any of the others using their
profiles and my mail would be available.

Obviously the new mail profile would have no settings, so to easily fix
that I would copy the profile that currently has my email accounts
setup, from the profile that does have email accounts, to the mail
profile and live happily ever after.

Wait, let me try that. Oops, create the profile first, then copy the
contents of the profile that currently has your email accounts to the
new mail only profile.

Start SeaMonkey with that profile, change the "When SeaMonkey starts up,
open" setting, and from there forward that profile will only open with
the Mail & Newsgroups window.

Tested and verified to work as this message proves.

Sort of like having Firefox and Thunderbird. ;)


That is model I wish to avoid!



Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from your
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2 profiles.


Phrased that way, I don't think it would be quite right.
I wish to access all email/newsgroup folders from all profiles showing 
identical content.


But you got me thinking. What if profiles "B" and "C" had links to the 
mail/newsgroup folders of profile "A"? Needs some thought and testing in 
a safe environment - I've crashed my OS twice in three days ;)


BTW nobody ever hinted I was normal.
Thank you.


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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/11/2017 9:22 AM, Richard Owlett wrote:
> On 03/11/2017 10:50 AM, Ray_Net wrote:
>> Richard Owlett wrote on 11-03-17 16:32:
>>> I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
>>> activities.
>>>
>>> One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
>>> browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
>>> JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.
>>>
>>> The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.
>>>
>>> The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
>>> website.
>>>
>>> I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.
>>>
>>> I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
>>> Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
>>> TIA
>> My idea is: Use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroup
> 
> No thanks. I'm a suite fanatic dating from days of Netscape 4.x and set 
> in my ways ;/
> Thank you.
> 

By using SeaMonkey for Web browsing and Thunderbird for E-mail and
newsgroups, I can switch browsing profiles -- which I do frequently --
without terminating my current E-mail and newsgroup session.

-- 
David E. Ross


Paraphrasing Mark Twain, who was quoting someone else:
There are three kinds of lies: lies, damned lies, and
alternative truths.
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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread Richard Owlett

On 03/11/2017 10:50 AM, Ray_Net wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote on 11-03-17 16:32:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA

My idea is: Use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroup


No thanks. I'm a suite fanatic dating from days of Netscape 4.x and set 
in my ways ;/

Thank you.
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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread WaltS48

Richard Owlett wrote:

I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web
activities.

One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies,
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.

The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's
website.

I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA



Well, I would create a separate profile for mail, then open it, go to 
Edit > Preferences > Appearance and set "When SeaMonkey starts up, 
open", remove the check mark for "Browser" and check "Mail & Newsgroups".


Then Quit, and restart using that profile in a separate window from any 
of the other 3 setups. The I could open any of the others using their 
profiles and my mail would be available.


Obviously the new mail profile would have no settings, so to easily fix 
that I would copy the profile that currently has my email accounts 
setup, from the profile that does have email accounts, to the mail 
profile and live happily ever after.


Wait, let me try that. Oops, create the profile first, then copy the 
contents of the profile that currently has your email accounts to the 
new mail only profile.


Start SeaMonkey with that profile, change the "When SeaMonkey starts up, 
open" setting, and from there forward that profile will only open with 
the Mail & Newsgroups window.


Tested and verified to work as this message proves.

Sort of like having Firefox and Thunderbird. ;)

Or you can figure out all of the email only files and folders from your 
profile that has mail, and copy and paste them into the other 2 profiles.

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Re: Multiple profiles sharing the same email data?

2017-03-11 Thread Ray_Net

Richard Owlett wrote on 11-03-17 16:32:
I have three profiles whose only distinction is how they handle web 
activities.


One is my default, day to day, preferences. Primary characteristic is 
browsing without commonly abused HTML "features" such as cookies, 
JavaScript, an backgrounds that make a site unreadable.


The second is set to match the wishes of my bank.

The third will be used as a remote terminal to administer the church's 
website.


I want separate histories and bookmarks for each.

I wish to access all my emails and newsgroups from each.
Can I? Preferably simply and conveniently ;/
TIA

My idea is: Use Thunderbird for mail and newsgroup
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