Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
hawker wrote: On 1/21/2014 6:39 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 20/01/2014 22:15, Mort told the world: Hi, I have read conflicting ideas about the following, and would like to have some accurate advice. I am running Windows 7 Pro and Windows XP Pro on my 2 laptops, which both came with Windows Defender. I also run Avast antivirus software as well as SuperAntiSpyware. My XP laptop refuses to update the Defender, giving a repeat error notice,which Windows Fixit cannot fix. Are the Avast and antispyware sufficient? Do I need Defender also? Some articles even said that Defender will interfere with the other programs. Defender is an antispyware, as is SuperAntispyware and also one of the Avast modules. It's generally assumed that it's a bad idea to have several antimalware programs doing essentially the same thing -- they end up interfering in one another and making your computer slow. (I have seen at times race conditions between security software taking 99% of the CPU on customers' machines... a Brazilian banking security tool called G-Buster is particularly notorious for causing this. But I digress...) Myself, I use just the free Avast and the Windows built-in firewall (plus, of course, a network router, which nowadays is almost unavoidable and adds an extra barrier to direct attacks). I also have NoScript in my main browser, which is annoying at times but makes the black hats' job much harder. But the most important defense I have is... a suspicious mind. I have received hundreds of phishing mail messages over the years, for instance; I don't think I have ever fell for one. To add to what others said: Virus also come in as exploits of advertisements and Java, Flash, Acrobat. So keeping those three programs up to date makes a huge difference in your vulnerability. Using Ad Block Plus also has removed virus potential on several clients who often got exploits that Avast didn't stop. I would kill defender, which doesn't work so hot, add Avast and Ad Block Plus, keep Acrobat, Java and Flash up to date (or don't use them). I would also suggest running malwarebytes about once a month to double check. It does a great job of getting rid of pesky viri that other programs don't detect. Thanks for the great advice. Mort Linder ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
On 1/21/2014 6:39 PM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 20/01/2014 22:15, Mort told the world: Hi, I have read conflicting ideas about the following, and would like to have some accurate advice. I am running Windows 7 Pro and Windows XP Pro on my 2 laptops, which both came with Windows Defender. I also run Avast antivirus software as well as SuperAntiSpyware. My XP laptop refuses to update the Defender, giving a repeat error notice,which Windows Fixit cannot fix. Are the Avast and antispyware sufficient? Do I need Defender also? Some articles even said that Defender will interfere with the other programs. Defender is an antispyware, as is SuperAntispyware and also one of the Avast modules. It's generally assumed that it's a bad idea to have several antimalware programs doing essentially the same thing -- they end up interfering in one another and making your computer slow. (I have seen at times race conditions between security software taking 99% of the CPU on customers' machines... a Brazilian banking security tool called G-Buster is particularly notorious for causing this. But I digress...) Myself, I use just the free Avast and the Windows built-in firewall (plus, of course, a network router, which nowadays is almost unavoidable and adds an extra barrier to direct attacks). I also have NoScript in my main browser, which is annoying at times but makes the black hats' job much harder. But the most important defense I have is... a suspicious mind. I have received hundreds of phishing mail messages over the years, for instance; I don't think I have ever fell for one. To add to what others said: Virus also come in as exploits of advertisements and Java, Flash, Acrobat. So keeping those three programs up to date makes a huge difference in your vulnerability. Using Ad Block Plus also has removed virus potential on several clients who often got exploits that Avast didn't stop. I would kill defender, which doesn't work so hot, add Avast and Ad Block Plus, keep Acrobat, Java and Flash up to date (or don't use them). I would also suggest running malwarebytes about once a month to double check. It does a great job of getting rid of pesky viri that other programs don't detect. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 22/01/2014 00:16, Mort told the world: Thanks so much for the very nice explanation. I was vaguely aware of the problem when software programs fight each other, and it came to a head when my Defender refused to get updates, giving an error code that Microsoft could not fix. I will now feel comfortable in simply deleting Defender. I too am alert to possible attacks, and had only one Trojan horse in 18 years of computing. It was quickly discovered and eliminated. I am as careful about unknown messages as I used to be with unknown girls in my youth. By the way, you can uninstall Defender from Windows XP but not from Windows 7. But you can disable it in Windows 7, which is almost as good. Thanks again for your very helpful advice. Mort Linder ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
Interviewed by CNN on 22/01/2014 00:16, Mort told the world: > Thanks so much for the very nice explanation. I was vaguely aware of the > problem when software programs fight each other, and it came to a head > when my Defender refused to get updates, giving an error code that > Microsoft could not fix. > > I will now feel comfortable in simply deleting Defender. I too am alert > to possible attacks, and had only one Trojan horse in 18 years of > computing. It was quickly discovered and eliminated. I am as careful > about unknown messages as I used to be with unknown girls in my youth. By the way, you can uninstall Defender from Windows XP but not from Windows 7. But you can disable it in Windows 7, which is almost as good. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Sirius Cybernetics Corporation Onboard Computer with Genuine People Personalities(tm). * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.23 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 20/01/2014 22:15, Mort told the world: Hi, I have read conflicting ideas about the following, and would like to have some accurate advice. I am running Windows 7 Pro and Windows XP Pro on my 2 laptops, which both came with Windows Defender. I also run Avast antivirus software as well as SuperAntiSpyware. My XP laptop refuses to update the Defender, giving a repeat error notice,which Windows Fixit cannot fix. Are the Avast and antispyware sufficient? Do I need Defender also? Some articles even said that Defender will interfere with the other programs. Defender is an antispyware, as is SuperAntispyware and also one of the Avast modules. It's generally assumed that it's a bad idea to have several antimalware programs doing essentially the same thing -- they end up interfering in one another and making your computer slow. (I have seen at times race conditions between security software taking 99% of the CPU on customers' machines... a Brazilian banking security tool called G-Buster is particularly notorious for causing this. But I digress...) Myself, I use just the free Avast and the Windows built-in firewall (plus, of course, a network router, which nowadays is almost unavoidable and adds an extra barrier to direct attacks). I also have NoScript in my main browser, which is annoying at times but makes the black hats' job much harder. But the most important defense I have is... a suspicious mind. I have received hundreds of phishing mail messages over the years, for instance; I don't think I have ever fell for one. Hi, Thanks so much for the very nice explanation. I was vaguely aware of the problem when software programs fight each other, and it came to a head when my Defender refused to get updates, giving an error code that Microsoft could not fix. I will now feel comfortable in simply deleting Defender. I too am alert to possible attacks, and had only one Trojan horse in 18 years of computing. It was quickly discovered and eliminated. I am as careful about unknown messages as I used to be with unknown girls in my youth. Mort Linder ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Need for Defender + Antivirus Program?
Interviewed by CNN on 20/01/2014 22:15, Mort told the world: > Hi, > > I have read conflicting ideas about the following, and would like to > have some accurate advice. > > I am running Windows 7 Pro and Windows XP Pro on my 2 laptops, which > both came with Windows Defender. I also run Avast antivirus software as > well as SuperAntiSpyware. > > My XP laptop refuses to update the Defender, giving a repeat error > notice,which Windows Fixit cannot fix. > > Are the Avast and antispyware sufficient? Do I need Defender also? Some > articles even said that Defender will interfere with the other programs. Defender is an antispyware, as is SuperAntispyware and also one of the Avast modules. It's generally assumed that it's a bad idea to have several antimalware programs doing essentially the same thing -- they end up interfering in one another and making your computer slow. (I have seen at times race conditions between security software taking 99% of the CPU on customers' machines... a Brazilian banking security tool called G-Buster is particularly notorious for causing this. But I digress...) Myself, I use just the free Avast and the Windows built-in firewall (plus, of course, a network router, which nowadays is almost unavoidable and adds an extra barrier to direct attacks). I also have NoScript in my main browser, which is annoying at times but makes the black hats' job much harder. But the most important defense I have is... a suspicious mind. I have received hundreds of phishing mail messages over the years, for instance; I don't think I have ever fell for one. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Franklin Translator. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.23 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey