Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-15 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote:

Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not
support SPDY.
Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in
about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and
also because
there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV
is used. I
tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will
not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of
question might be:
What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW "HUH"



Sorry, Richard, where did you get the impression that
Desiree was trying to translate from Native French to English??

Reads o.k. to me!



Well my weird sense of humor kicks in when I'm up too late ;)
I had no idea what SPDY was. A normal person might have said her post
was "Greek to me". Her response referencing
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-spdy-build/ gave me enough
background to have an idea of what she was talking about.



HUH??

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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Robert Kaiser

Desiree schrieb:

I think the update to 2.12.1 was partly to patch the vulnerability?
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/09/crime-hijacks-https-sessions/


No, this has been fixed before already.

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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Richard Owlett

Daniel wrote:

Richard Owlett wrote:

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not
support SPDY.
Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in
about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and
also because
there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV
is used. I
tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will
not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of
question might be:
What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW "HUH"



Sorry, Richard, where did you get the impression that
Desiree was trying to translate from Native French to English??

Reads o.k. to me!



Well my weird sense of humor kicks in when I'm up too late ;)
I had no idea what SPDY was. A normal person might have said 
her post was "Greek to me". Her response referencing 
http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-spdy-build/ gave me 
enough background to have an idea of what she was talking about.


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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-14 Thread Daniel

Richard Owlett wrote:

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not support SPDY.
Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and also because
there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV is used. I
tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of question might be:
What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW "HUH"



Sorry, Richard, where did you get the impression that Desiree was trying 
to translate from Native French to English??


Reads o.k. to me!

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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-13 Thread Desiree

"Desiree"  wrote in message 
news:yfudnu1wva2vf8_nnz2dnuvz_sadn...@mozilla.org...
>
> "Richard Owlett"  wrote in message 
> news:0osdnfrnnddkh8_nnz2dnuvz_h2dn...@mozilla.org...
>> Desiree wrote:
>>> My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not support SPDY. 
>>> Sea
>>> Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in about:config
>>> partly because of the current security vulnerability and also because 
>>> there
>>> is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV is used. I tried 
>>> to
>>> install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will not install. Is
>>> there a trick that will get it to install?
>>
>> In English please ;/
>> A very loose translation of the likely French version of question might 
>> be:
>>What does SPDY wish to say?
>>
>> IOW "HUH"
>
>
> Here's a good article summarizing SPDY (sorry for the mistype where I used 
> "v" instead of "y").
>
>
>
> SPDY is a type of compression developed by Google for Chrome that 
> dramatically speeds up SSL and HTTPS sessions on websites that use it. 
> Currently there is a security exploit involving SPDY. IE is not affected 
> because it doesn't use SPDY at all. Opera doesn't use it either but will 
> be introducing it in Opera 12.50. Fx 15 uses it as does the current 
> version of Sea Monkey. (I don't know what version of SM it was introduced 
> in but I have an old version of SM 2.6.1 that doesn't have it). Chrome and 
> Fx both have extensions (and Opera will have an extension for Opera 12.5) 
> that allow the user to know when SPDY is used at a website as it is 
> transparent to the user.
>
> I think the update to 2.12.1 was partly to patch the vulnerability? 
> http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/09/crime-hijacks-https-sessions/ 
> Google and Twitter support SPDY. Luckily, my versions of Fx (4 and 10 ESR) 
> do not support it because I use Google Sharing extension on Fx and that 
> forces SSL for Google search so I would have been vulnerable to CRIME (the 
> exploit) until a patch for Fx if I was using more recent Fx version. I 
> do/did have a vulnerable Sea Monkey but I think the latest upgrade was 
> partly for the patch for this vulnerability. Plus, very unfortunately, 
> Google Sharing extension will not install on Sea Monkey (and is a main 
> reason I have Fx as my default browser) so Google search on SM is "http" 
> for me and thus no SPDY.  I have Twitter blocked in my Hosts file so the 
> fact it uses SPDY is irrelevant for me.
>
> If Sea Monkey is going to implement SPDY then we need the Fx extension, or 
> one just for SM, working on SM so users can monitor what sites are using 
> SPDY.

Here's the URL I forgot earlier that has a good summary of SPDY. It's an 
Opera article but has good background on SPDY and not nerdy either. There is 
probably a good Mozilla article too but someone posted the opera one in a 
thread that I am reading currently so I haven't gone looking for a 
comparable Mozilla article.

http://dev.opera.com/articles/view/opera-spdy-build/ 


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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-13 Thread Desiree

"Richard Owlett"  wrote in message 
news:0osdnfrnnddkh8_nnz2dnuvz_h2dn...@mozilla.org...
> Desiree wrote:
>> My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not support SPDY. 
>> Sea
>> Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in about:config
>> partly because of the current security vulnerability and also because 
>> there
>> is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV is used. I tried 
>> to
>> install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will not install. Is
>> there a trick that will get it to install?
>
> In English please ;/
> A very loose translation of the likely French version of question might 
> be:
>What does SPDY wish to say?
>
> IOW "HUH"


Here's a good article summarizing SPDY (sorry for the mistype where I used 
"v" instead of "y").



SPDY is a type of compression developed by Google for Chrome that 
dramatically speeds up SSL and HTTPS sessions on websites that use it. 
Currently there is a security exploit involving SPDY. IE is not affected 
because it doesn't use SPDY at all. Opera doesn't use it either but will be 
introducing it in Opera 12.50. Fx 15 uses it as does the current version of 
Sea Monkey. (I don't know what version of SM it was introduced in but I have 
an old version of SM 2.6.1 that doesn't have it). Chrome and Fx both have 
extensions (and Opera will have an extension for Opera 12.5) that allow the 
user to know when SPDY is used at a website as it is transparent to the 
user.

I think the update to 2.12.1 was partly to patch the vulnerability? 
http://arstechnica.com/security/2012/09/crime-hijacks-https-sessions/ 
Google and Twitter support SPDY. Luckily, my versions of Fx (4 and 10 ESR) 
do not support it because I use Google Sharing extension on Fx and that 
forces SSL for Google search so I would have been vulnerable to CRIME (the 
exploit) until a patch for Fx if I was using more recent Fx version. I 
do/did have a vulnerable Sea Monkey but I think the latest upgrade was 
partly for the patch for this vulnerability. Plus, very unfortunately, 
Google Sharing extension will not install on Sea Monkey (and is a main 
reason I have Fx as my default browser) so Google search on SM is "http" for 
me and thus no SPDY.  I have Twitter blocked in my Hosts file so the fact it 
uses SPDY is irrelevant for me.

If Sea Monkey is going to implement SPDY then we need the Fx extension, or 
one just for SM, working on SM so users can monitor what sites are using 
SPDY. 


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Re: SPDY indicator 2.1 why not available for Sea Monkey?

2012-09-13 Thread Richard Owlett

Desiree wrote:

My Firefox versions (4.0.1 and 10.0.7 Enterprise) do not support SPDY. Sea
Monkey 2.12.1 supports SPDV.  I am going to disable it in about:config
partly because of the current security vulnerability and also because there
is no extension for Sea Monkey to let me know when SPDV is used. I tried to
install SPDY indicator for Fx on Sea Monkey but it will not install. Is
there a trick that will get it to install?


In English please ;/
A very loose translation of the likely French version of 
question might be:

   What does SPDY wish to say?

IOW "HUH"

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