Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-19 Thread Bill Davidsen

D. K. Kraft wrote:

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 5:37 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have 
been

viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.


I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been
resolved, in RC2.:)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


snort!  Nope, it's not even the ghost of a bug.  It's an epic fail on my
part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display |
General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and () a
radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read:
  () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as 
read

*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --


You do have a valid point that the 2.0 defaults would cause less noise if they 
were the same as 1.1.xx in as far as is possible, and if profile import were a 
tad more biased toward what used to happen.


The only thing bugging me now is mail/news opening extra tabs, and I'm sure 
something I do causes that. Well, reasonably sure, anyway, I'm not even at the 
reproduce stage yet, much less the 'file a bug' stage, it's likely to be user 
error because of a new feature.


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SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read.  This is true for both mail
and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon.  I have the
pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read) unticked, as I
don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read them.  Be that as
it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed fashion
AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking messages
(Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's unclear if
this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a message has
been viewed.  Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I can't speak to
a comparison of behavior.

I have *tried*, really and truly, *tried* to find a bug listing in Bugzilla
for the described behavior of SM 2.0 RC1, but it is quite literally an
effort in futility.  If anyone has a better knack of coming up with search
keywords that deliver less-than-making-one-crosseyed results, I would be
more than grateful for you to apply your skills here.  For surely this is a
bug that has been listed for SM 2.0 already--unless I have a mutant version
and am the only user experiencing this behavior...

TIA for any replies and assistance --
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read.  This is true for both mail
and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon.  I have the
pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read) unticked, as I
don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read them.  Be that as
it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed fashion
AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking messages
(Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's unclear if
this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a message has
been viewed.  Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I can't speak to
a comparison of behavior.

I have *tried*, really and truly, *tried* to find a bug listing in Bugzilla
for the described behavior of SM 2.0 RC1, but it is quite literally an
effort in futility.  If anyone has a better knack of coming up with search
keywords that deliver less-than-making-one-crosseyed results, I would be
more than grateful for you to apply your skills here.  For surely this is a
bug that has been listed for SM 2.0 already--unless I have a mutant version
and am the only user experiencing this behavior...

TIA for any replies and assistance --



I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been resolved, in 
RC2.:)


https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


bj
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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, KristleBawl, on 10/17/2009 5:10 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.

snippage


See if this applies.
Want to entirely disable marking a message as read when viewed
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=297534


Good try, but it pertains to Thunderbird, not SM 2.0 (even though some of
Thunderbird's options are now *in* SM 2.0).  But this situation isn't even a
ghost of a bug, as I have found out to my extreme mortification.  It's an epic
fail on my part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message
Display | General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and
() a radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read:
  () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --
--
 /\ /\   | No, Heaven will not ever Heaven be
 ^o o^D.K. Cat Kraft   |  unless my cats are there to welcome
 -T-   |  me.
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___oOO___OOo___  |  cemetery gravestone


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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread D. K. Kraft

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 5:37 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.


I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been
resolved, in RC2.:)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


snort!  Nope, it's not even the ghost of a bug.  It's an epic fail on my
part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display |
General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and () a
radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read:
  () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --
--
 /\ /\   | No, Heaven will not ever Heaven be
 ^o o^D.K. Cat Kraft   |  unless my cats are there to welcome
 -T-   |  me.
   ~  Lynnwood, WA   |   -- Epitaph on a pet
___oOO___OOo___  |  cemetery gravestone


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Re: SM 2.0 RC1 -- mail and news messages not marked as read after viewing *SOLVED*

2009-10-17 Thread chicagofan

D. K. Kraft wrote:

With patience akin to a cat's, chicagofan, on 10/17/2009 5:37 PM typed:

D. K. Kraft wrote:

Further testing of SM 2.0 RC1 behavior on Win XP SP3 with a migrated
profile from SM 1.1.18:

In 1.1.18, when a message has been viewed (e.g. clicked on), it is
automatically (and logically) marked as read. This is true for both
mail and news.

SM 2.0 RC1 doesn't follow the above behavior, instead keeping a viewed
message as unread no matter how many times it's clicked upon. I have
the pref regarding auto-marking a message as read (Mail  Newsgroups |
Message Display | General | Automatically mark messages as read)
unticked, as I don't want messages to be marked as read until I've read
them. Be that as it may, 2.0 *should not* be behaving in the observed
fashion AFAICT--messages *should* be marked as read once they have been
viewed.

In comparison, 1.1.18 only has a time interval setting for marking
messages (Wait [] seconds before marking a message as read), and it's
unclear if this pertains to automatically doing so, or doing so after a
message has been viewed. Since I've never used this pref in SM 1.1.x, I
can't speak to a comparison of behavior.


I think this is the bug you wanted to see filed, and it has been resolved,
in RC2.:)

https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=514876


snort!   Nope, it's not even the ghost of a bug.  It's an epic fail on my
part to comprehend the pref under Mail  Newsgroups | Message Display |
General, which is the following (where [] represents a checkbox, and () a
radio button):

[] Automatically mark messages as read: () Immediately on display

To get the behavior I have now with 1.1.18--where a message is marked as read
*upon display*--I need to check that checkbox and tick the radio button.

[bangs head on keyboard]

Epic fail on follows instructions.  Epic fail on reading instructions.  I
think I need to take a break, step back, and not try so hard...  Or
something...

And I'm supposed to be the schmart one in my family --



I agree that in RC1, it doesn't matter what you check in preferences, it does
NOT work, as you have described.  There's nothing wrong with your comprehension,
it simply isn't working in that release.  :)

However, if I understand you correctly, and
you want the messages to be marked as read after you have viewed them, that IS
corrected in *RC2*.   Did you read all the comments in the bug filed on the
failure to mark messages as read?  Or am I not understanding what you want?
bj


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