Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus n...@home.com wrote: That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. Hm. I agree, there should be no reason for the added ram to cause the problem, but, nice adding and removing ram from a macbook pro is not really difficult, it ould be worth trying it to remove that as a possible cause. Lee ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Leonidas Jones wrote: Rufusn...@home.com wrote: That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. Hm. I agree, there should be no reason for the added ram to cause the problem, but, nice adding and removing ram from a macbook pro is not really difficult, it ould be worth trying it to remove that as a possible cause. Lee It *wasn't* really difficult before, but now with the new unibody case you risk cross-threading the screws that hold the back plate on...which would ruin the case top as far as getting the back plate to stay put. Not really something you go doing more than once anymore, and certainly not for troubleshooting *one* app when nothing else about the machine is going wrong. In fact, the battery is no longer even user replaceable/removable with the latest unibody case - the first ones at least had a release lever and a half shell so you could get in there easily...that was far, far better design from a user standpoint. So I'm not keen on pulling my 'Book apart again unless I need to put a new hard drive in it...which ain't straight forward anymore either. So, after studying on rebuilding my Profiles I'd rather just wipe SM and do a clean install of the pending 2.1 release and manually restore some files and see what I get. It'll be a pain, but at least I won't be risking damage to my case. What I'm wondering is if there isn't something else software related that that I could try to address the additional RAM for the install as far as SM is concerned - like a PRAM reset or something. Which again is overkill for *one* misbehaving app. But I'm also way puzzled as to why all of these crash clusters have a different crash reason/signature - I had another cluster of crashes just last night with all my plug-ins still turned off except for Flash. I can't recall the reason - I'm on my (SM stable) iMac right now. But it wasn't any of the kernel protection, bad Cairo font, or bad instruction call one(s) that I've seen to date - it was something different again. Every cluster seems to have some new reason... But the same cluster of crashes on restart attempts, and then return to being stable after a reboot. Which smacks of some write, cache, or swap file hang or error...whatever...until cleared by a reboot. Then over some period of SM session up-time it happens all over again. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Ed Mullen wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. What? ... way more work? I don't do Apple but, where's the hard work? Geez, in my Win laptop or any of my towers that's maybe 5 minutes from shutdown to reboot. If you don't have 5 minutes to try a solution ...? I have to get out a screwdriver and remove 11 screws to open up my MacBook Pro - it's one of the new milled aluminum ones. Then I have to pop out the new, perfectly fine RAM that Techtool tests prefectly good and downgrade my machine...screw it back together and run it for some time...then do it all over again (and risk stripping the threads on my case each time) to get back to the upgrade I payed for and have already installed successfully? All for *one* misbehaving app? No, thanks... Besides, if anyone is trying to suggest that SM can't run stable on a machine with more than 4G of RAM installed I'd be *HIGHLY* skeptical of that...though it is curious that my other installation on my Intel iMac (with 4G) is rock solid with *zero* logged crashes. If it were my iMac it would only be *one* screw...but still... What I will do is wait for the release of SM 2.1, back up my Mail and Bookmarks, and totally wipe this install...then rebuild. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. What? ... way more work? I don't do Apple but, where's the hard work? Geez, in my Win laptop or any of my towers that's maybe 5 minutes from shutdown to reboot. If you don't have 5 minutes to try a solution ...? I have to get out a screwdriver and remove 11 screws to open up my MacBook Pro - it's one of the new milled aluminum ones. Then I have to pop out the new, perfectly fine RAM that Techtool tests prefectly good and downgrade my machine...screw it back together and run it for some time...then do it all over again (and risk stripping the threads on my case each time) to get back to the upgrade I payed for and have already installed successfully? All for *one* misbehaving app? No, thanks... Sounds like an incredibly stupid hw design. My laptop (Thinkpad) takes one screw to access the memory. By the way, in your secnario, don't put all the 11 screws back in before you test it after removing the RAM. There ya go, saved you a bunch of time! -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Some people are like a Slinky toy - not really good for anything, but you still can't help but smile when you shove them down the stairs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Ed Mullen wrote: Rufus wrote: Ed Mullen wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. What? ... way more work? I don't do Apple but, where's the hard work? Geez, in my Win laptop or any of my towers that's maybe 5 minutes from shutdown to reboot. If you don't have 5 minutes to try a solution ...? I have to get out a screwdriver and remove 11 screws to open up my MacBook Pro - it's one of the new milled aluminum ones. Then I have to pop out the new, perfectly fine RAM that Techtool tests prefectly good and downgrade my machine...screw it back together and run it for some time...then do it all over again (and risk stripping the threads on my case each time) to get back to the upgrade I payed for and have already installed successfully? All for *one* misbehaving app? No, thanks... Sounds like an incredibly stupid hw design. My laptop (Thinkpad) takes one screw to access the memory. By the way, in your secnario, don't put all the 11 screws back in before you test it after removing the RAM. There ya go, saved you a bunch of time! I still like my destroy and reinstall scenario better... Apple is taking to making their consumer level gear more and more inaccessible of late, with the exception of the newest Mini...that one is actually made so the user can add RAM more easily as opposed to the older ones. The new MacBook Pro cases don't even make the battery easy to access. The Apple unitized appliance design all started with the iPods...I don't much like the concept either, but I do like and prefer working on/with Apple hardware/software to the Dell/Windoze crap I have to tolerate at work. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. I'm using the low-power GPU...I'll give it a try, but none of the history indicates that simply switching GPUs will stop this. ... but macs never crash??? b ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. I'm using the low-power GPU...I'll give it a try, but none of the history indicates that simply switching GPUs will stop this. ... but macs never crash??? b ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
u...@domain.invalid wrote: Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. I'm using the low-power GPU...I'll give it a try, but none of the history indicates that simply switching GPUs will stop this. ... but macs never crash??? b My Mac isn't crashing - SeaMonkey is. And *only* SeaMonkey. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/1010:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
beelzib...@comcast.net wrote: Rufus wrote: Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. I'm using the low-power GPU...I'll give it a try, but none of the history indicates that simply switching GPUs will stop this. ... but macs never crash??? b Same-same...my Mac is fine. SeaMonkey ain't cuttin' it. But only on this install. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil That's way more work than it's worth, given that nothing else on my 'Book is misbehaving. What? ... way more work? I don't do Apple but, where's the hard work? Geez, in my Win laptop or any of my towers that's maybe 5 minutes from shutdown to reboot. If you don't have 5 minutes to try a solution ...? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Can fat people go skinny-dipping? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy Wild guess. Bad graphics card driver. It might be worthwhile to check if there is a newer driver for your card. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/1010:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Chris Ilias wrote: On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. I'm using the low-power GPU...I'll give it a try, but none of the history indicates that simply switching GPUs will stop this. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy Wild guess. Bad graphics card driver. It might be worthwhile to check if there is a newer driver for your card. Phil It's a Macbook - so it's a built in GPU. Software Update says I've got the latest, and none of my other apps are acting up. Also - this is just *this* cluster of crashes...the others are all different. So I'm still clueless... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/1010:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
On Wed, 01 Dec 2010 21:44:40 -0700, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Tue, 30 Nov 2010 23:05:19 -0700, Rufus wrote: bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/1010:42 PM It's crashing here: http://hg.mozilla.org/releases/mozilla-1.9.1/annotate/bb324a17c2b1/gfx/cairo/cairo/src/cairo-pattern.c#l726 It looks like we are trying to access deallocated memory. Phil One thing I have done to this machine recently is to add more RAM - I plus-d it up to 8 Gig of RAM from 4. SM began acting up shortly after that, but none of my other apps - I've run Techtool on the install and the memory checks good, the machine recognizes and reports it, so I'd like to think that merely upgrading RAM wouldn't affect SM. Would/should it?.. Hrm. Try removing the extra 4GB temporarily. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
Rufus wrote: Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On Sat, 27 Nov 2010 19:55:38 -0800, Rufus wrote: Philip Chee wrote: I said plugins e.g. Flash Player.plugin. I didn't say anything about extensions. Phil Gonna have to give me some more info - it doesn't look like I have any Add-ons installed, only Plugins as listed. What info specifically do you want? Give me an example of the spec... I want you to go to the Plugins tab of the Addons Manager and disable all the plugins there (perhaps with the exception of Flash) as an experiment. If your crashes stop, then re-enable the plugins one by one every few days until the crashes come back. Phil Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/1010:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/1010:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/1010:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/108:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/108:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/108:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/108:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/108:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/108:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/108:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/108:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/108:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/101:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/101:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/101:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/101:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/101:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/101:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/101:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... -- - Rufus ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.0.10 Mac - crashing...and crashing...and crashing...AGAIN.
On 10-12-01 1:05 AM, Rufus wrote: Ok...I've got ALL of my plugins disabled except Flash and Shockwave (as of the 29th), and I got a new cluster of crashes tonight, one night after the last cluster - recent history below: Report ID Date Submitted bp-4c939a43-b232-4cbe-af33-03d7c2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-9b2fb1dd-73ad-4292-a239-c55d62101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-554767e7-1cf0-4691-b84e-c4fcb2101130 11/30/10 10:43 PM bp-8bf5ec0a-8389-4f34-9c09-541fb2101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-e84cb19f-6bec-410e-8c71-628442101130 11/30/10 10:42 PM bp-a3faf624-6bc4-4995-b3d1-673712101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-7abbb60e-6ea2-4349-bb52-f9b142101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-16fced93-b8b7-49c1-bc6e-ec3ab2101129 11/29/10 8:30 PM bp-60425b74-e133-47ed-a84e-b63e62101129 11/29/10 8:25 PM bp-6c1719d5-8cdd-4c86-b647-bde782101124 11/24/10 8:28 PM bp-4b4eb8ff-9e8d-4efd-84c0-2b4dc2101124 11/24/10 8:27 PM bp-941abcbd-6d2f-419b-a24d-a50452101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-0b13f460-1e3b-4018-95f6-190412101124 11/24/10 8:25 PM bp-ce939ab6-9166-441e-9c10-735352101124 11/24/10 8:23 PM bp-424f7805-96af-4f21-9c2e-255fb2101124 11/24/10 1:38 PM bp-1a14ddeb-e6cf-457d-a792-b84042101124 11/24/10 1:31 PM bp-5cd20ffa-5772-4b9a-bc48-533c22101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-ec60a3af-1376-45af-ba7d-916612101124 11/24/10 1:29 PM bp-25694e45-f1d4-405f-8951-957982101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-9d437461-1022-4e1a-9a33-617a32101124 11/24/10 1:28 PM bp-5e0ad45f-5e43-4059-914c-64cbd2101124 11/24/10 1:27 PM Once again, a reboot got SM stable enough to use this install to make this post. After reboot, I had the following files in a Recovered Items folder in my Trash - a plugtmp folder with plugin-300x250.swf and plugin-728_ink.swf files in it. In the recent cluster of 11/30/10 crashes the crash reason listed is - EXC_BAD_ACCESS / KERN_PROTECTION_FAILURE for all of them, and the Signature is - _moz_cairo_pattern_destroy ...but this isn't anything like what is listed for the others. At least two of these crashes occurred on SM restart attempts, the rest occurred on opening Mail/News. As I recall... Only next step I can think of would be to completely destroy/wipe this install and rebuild everything...none of my other SM installs on either of my two other machines are behaving this way - just my MacBook Pro. And it's getting damn annoying... What graphics card are you using? Since you're on a MBP, try switching to the other built-in graphics card. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Mailing list/Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
