SM 2.2: Right-click menu on Google map covers Google's right-click menu
When I'm using Google Maps to get driving directions, I often right-click on my destination. When I do in SM 2.2, I get the usual menu (Reload, View image, Block image, Copy image, etc), overlaying the Google menu (Directions to here, Zoom in, Zoom out, Center map here, etc). I have found a workaround: after right-clicking, press the ESC key, and the top menu closes. Is it a problem in SM? Is there a way to fix it? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2: Right-click menu on Google map covers Google's right-click menu
flyguy wrote: When I'm using Google Maps to get driving directions, I often right-click on my destination. When I do in SM 2.2, I get the usual menu (Reload, View image, Block image, Copy image, etc), overlaying the Google menu (Directions to here, Zoom in, Zoom out, Center map here, etc). I have found a workaround: after right-clicking, press the ESC key, and the top menu closes. Is it a problem in SM? Is there a way to fix it? The expected (Google) behavior works for me with SeaMonkey 2.3. See Preferences-Advanced-Scripts and Plugins-Allow Javascript to... Disable and replace context menu's should be enabled (unchecking it causes the behavior you mention) -- ~Justin wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2: Right-click menu on Google map covers Google's right-click menu
On 8/21/2011 8:04 PM, Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: flyguy wrote: When I'm using Google Maps to get driving directions, I often right-click on my destination. When I do in SM 2.2, I get the usual menu (Reload, View image, Block image, Copy image, etc), overlaying the Google menu (Directions to here, Zoom in, Zoom out, Center map here, etc). I have found a workaround: after right-clicking, press the ESC key, and the top menu closes. Is it a problem in SM? Is there a way to fix it? The expected (Google) behavior works for me with SeaMonkey 2.3. See Preferences-Advanced-Scripts and Plugins-Allow Javascript to... Disable and replace context menu's should be enabled (unchecking it causes the behavior you mention) BINGO! That did it. Boy, that was subtle - something I'd never seen before - and I never would have guessed it was script problem. Now I'm wondering how it got unchecked, because the behavior in Google was correct before I upgraded to 2.2. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2: Full Screen (f11) reorders window icons on task bar
Every morning, I open 2 browser windows, an email window, and another browser window. I drag the first browser window to my 7 Lilliput display, then use F11 to fill it with that browser window. That causes the window icon on the task bar to move to the top of the heap. In fact, any browser window that is changed to Full Screen moves to the top. With SM 2.0.xx, the widow order in the task bar did not change, and I liked that because it's easier to keep track of which window is which on the task bar. A new behavior, or a setting I changed somehow? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 - lost my html editing controls
I have been using Seamonkey for several years for editing simple HTML pages with CSS, tables, images, etc... I just installed SM 2.2. I have a couple of problems... * I have this weird exploding image selection behavior with no outline of the selected image, which makes it difficult to see if you are selecting and opening the right now. * In normal edit mode, I no longer have the nifty controls for adding and deleting table elements. I rely on these. I am surprised that I don't see anything about this in the release notes, help, or this support group. Is there some secret control to re-enable those features that I need ? Thanks, David ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - lost my html editing controls
David Duling wrote: I have been using Seamonkey for several years for editing simple HTML pages with CSS, tables, images, etc... I just installed SM 2.2. I have a couple of problems... I'll be curious about the answer to your problems. I've rejected the move to SM 2.2 solely because of the HTML page composer issues that users have complained about since its release. I guess the bottom line is that I'm waiting for 2.3 to see if people indicate that the problems have been eliminated (but I fear that isn't a priority, so I doubt it is happening.) My fallback is using kompozer instead of SM's Composer; but that sort of eliminates the advantages of a browser *suite*, doesn't it? Why else do we use SeaMonkey if we don't want a suite with all the components working? -- Ken Rudolph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - lost my html editing controls
David Duling wrote: I have been using Seamonkey for several years for editing simple HTML pages with CSS, tables, images, etc... I just installed SM 2.2. I have a couple of problems... You might try the 2.3b3 release, at least on Linux the composer does the things you mention. I haven't checked to see if the two critical address book errors are fixed, maybe tomorrow. * I have this weird exploding image selection behavior with no outline of the selected image, which makes it difficult to see if you are selecting and opening the right now. * In normal edit mode, I no longer have the nifty controls for adding and deleting table elements. I rely on these. I am surprised that I don't see anything about this in the release notes, help, or this support group. Is there some secret control to re-enable those features that I need ? Thanks, David -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Hi, I've just updated to SM 2.2, in the mail and news window there's a new tool bar called the search bar that takes up quite a lot of room. In the old 2.0, the search boxes were part of the message list pane and were very compact, and more intuitive. -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I've just updated to SM 2.2, in the mail and news window there's a new tool bar called the search bar that takes up quite a lot of room. In the old 2.0, the search boxes were part of the message list pane and were very compact, and more intuitive. Click the arrow to its left and the big new search bar disappears. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
On 05/08/2011 02:31, Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I've just updated to SM 2.2, in the mail and news window there's a new tool bar called the search bar that takes up quite a lot of room. In the old 2.0, the search boxes were part of the message list pane and were very compact, and more intuitive. I'm working on a fix. See Bug 656056 Make the MailNews searchBar an external toolbar in the thread pane. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656056 Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Bill Spikowski wrote: Click the arrow to its left and the big new search bar disappears. Yes, you can collapse the bar and then expand it when you need it, but I'd say it's a step backwards; much more intuitive (and took up less space) when it was part of the thread pane... -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Philip Chee wrote: I'm working on a fix. See Bug 656056 Make the MailNews searchBar an external toolbar in the thread pane. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656056 Thanks, this sounds great; I look forward to the new version! -- Gerry Hickman (London UK) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Philip Chee wrote: On 05/08/2011 02:31, Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I've just updated to SM 2.2, in the mail and news window there's a new tool bar called the search bar that takes up quite a lot of room. In the old 2.0, the search boxes were part of the message list pane and were very compact, and more intuitive. I'm working on a fix. See Bug 656056 Make the MailNews searchBar an external toolbar in the thread pane. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656056 Mr. Chee In which SM version, when, do you expect your correction for the recently introduced search bar problem to be made available? -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
Gerry Hickman wrote: Philip Chee wrote: I'm working on a fix. See Bug 656056 Make the MailNews searchBar an external toolbar in the thread pane. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656056 Thanks, this sounds great; I look forward to the new version! You can put the search box on the top toolbar by customizing that one; and then collapse the separate search bar. That makes it compact again. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 - don't like new search bar in mail/mews
On Thu, 04 Aug 2011 20:33:30 -0400, Rostyslaw Lewyckyj wrote: Philip Chee wrote: On 05/08/2011 02:31, Gerry Hickman wrote: Hi, I've just updated to SM 2.2, in the mail and news window there's a new tool bar called the search bar that takes up quite a lot of room. In the old 2.0, the search boxes were part of the message list pane and were very compact, and more intuitive. I'm working on a fix. See Bug 656056 Make the MailNews searchBar an external toolbar in the thread pane. https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=656056 Mr. Chee In which SM version, when, do you expect your correction for the recently introduced search bar problem to be made available? When I stop procrastinating and actually fix it. Phil -- Philip Chee phi...@aleytys.pc.my, philip.c...@gmail.com http://flashblock.mozdev.org/ http://xsidebar.mozdev.org Guard us from the she-wolf and the wolf, and guard us from the thief, oh Night, and so be good for us to pass. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
NoOp wrote: On 08/01/2011 12:47 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of the development team on this build or is this just the build where the issues have finally gotten to areas that affect me? Yes, SM 2.2 contained more issues than usual. We tried to fix some issues 2.1 had but others popped up, especially in MailNews and the address book (some things were not fixed entirely, and changes Thunderbird developers made to shared MailNews code were not fixed on our end fast enough). 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, and in this case we had even fewer time than the usual 6-18 weeks that the process dictates because 2.1 had already been delayed. Also there are some problems that appear due to the all-volunteer nature of the project. There are only very few developers in the first place, reviews (which are mandatory for any code change) take quite long. In former times (before 2.2) we had many months time to fix things and release when it's ready. Now we're pretty much date-driven. This requires paying more attention to regressions by everyone involved. There is a lesson to be learned there, and I think 2.3 will be better overall [even though I personally would have voted to respin 2.3b1 so that we don't release a beta with major issues that are already known to be fixed for 2.3]. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the rapid, date-driven release process either but we have little choice: Security fixes (which usually affect Gecko or other code shared with Firefox) are only fixed on the latest stable Mozilla platform version so we cannot skip one without exposing our users to security risks. This is (very) unfortunate but nothing we can influence, so there is no point in complaining about it. We have to make the best out of it. So does the API of Gecko change with every release? I would think you would be calling for services and fixes would be in the service. Does it really change so much that you can't link against the current code? I like the Linux model, where stability fixes are provided against recent releases, so people don't have to constantly upgrade. I would think that was a problem for Mozilla and corporate users as well, and a reason to provide bug fix only support for 90 days or six months, or something reasonable. No corporation I have supported would update softweare every six weeks, other than to apply patches. Might be an interesting read: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20074590-264/rapid-release-firefox-meets-corporate-backlash/ Frankly, I think Mozilla has lost touch, expecting people to do an upgrade every six weeks. And forced silent upgrades? I may be wrong, that may be default rather than forced, you can protect yourself if you remember to do so. Still, no support after six weeks seems to be ceding the serious browser market to others. An interesting read indeed. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of the development team on this build or is this just the build where the issues have finally gotten to areas that affect me? Yes, SM 2.2 contained more issues than usual. We tried to fix some issues 2.1 had but others popped up, especially in MailNews and the address book (some things were not fixed entirely, and changes Thunderbird developers made to shared MailNews code were not fixed on our end fast enough). 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, and in this case we had even fewer time than the usual 6-18 weeks that the process dictates because 2.1 had already been delayed. Also there are some problems that appear due to the all-volunteer nature of the project. There are only very few developers in the first place, reviews (which are mandatory for any code change) take quite long. In former times (before 2.2) we had many months time to fix things and release when it's ready. Now we're pretty much date-driven. This requires paying more attention to regressions by everyone involved. There is a lesson to be learned there, and I think 2.3 will be better overall [even though I personally would have voted to respin 2.3b1 so that we don't release a beta with major issues that are already known to be fixed for 2.3]. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the rapid, date-driven release process either but we have little choice: Security fixes (which usually affect Gecko or other code shared with Firefox) are only fixed on the latest stable Mozilla platform version so we cannot skip one without exposing our users to security risks. This is (very) unfortunate but nothing we can influence, so there is no point in complaining about it. We have to make the best out of it. So does the API of Gecko change with every release? I would think you would be calling for services and fixes would be in the service. Does it really change so much that you can't link against the current code? I like the Linux model, where stability fixes are provided against recent releases, so people don't have to constantly upgrade. I would think that was a problem for Mozilla and corporate users as well, and a reason to provide bug fix only support for 90 days or six months, or something reasonable. No corporation I have supported would update softweare every six weeks, other than to apply patches. -- Bill Davidsen david...@tmr.com We are not out of the woods yet, but we know the direction and have taken the first step. The steps are many, but finite in number, and if we persevere we will reach our destination. -me, 2010 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
On 08/01/2011 12:47 PM, Bill Davidsen wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of the development team on this build or is this just the build where the issues have finally gotten to areas that affect me? Yes, SM 2.2 contained more issues than usual. We tried to fix some issues 2.1 had but others popped up, especially in MailNews and the address book (some things were not fixed entirely, and changes Thunderbird developers made to shared MailNews code were not fixed on our end fast enough). 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, and in this case we had even fewer time than the usual 6-18 weeks that the process dictates because 2.1 had already been delayed. Also there are some problems that appear due to the all-volunteer nature of the project. There are only very few developers in the first place, reviews (which are mandatory for any code change) take quite long. In former times (before 2.2) we had many months time to fix things and release when it's ready. Now we're pretty much date-driven. This requires paying more attention to regressions by everyone involved. There is a lesson to be learned there, and I think 2.3 will be better overall [even though I personally would have voted to respin 2.3b1 so that we don't release a beta with major issues that are already known to be fixed for 2.3]. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the rapid, date-driven release process either but we have little choice: Security fixes (which usually affect Gecko or other code shared with Firefox) are only fixed on the latest stable Mozilla platform version so we cannot skip one without exposing our users to security risks. This is (very) unfortunate but nothing we can influence, so there is no point in complaining about it. We have to make the best out of it. So does the API of Gecko change with every release? I would think you would be calling for services and fixes would be in the service. Does it really change so much that you can't link against the current code? I like the Linux model, where stability fixes are provided against recent releases, so people don't have to constantly upgrade. I would think that was a problem for Mozilla and corporate users as well, and a reason to provide bug fix only support for 90 days or six months, or something reasonable. No corporation I have supported would update softweare every six weeks, other than to apply patches. Might be an interesting read: http://news.cnet.com/8301-30685_3-20074590-264/rapid-release-firefox-meets-corporate-backlash/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2
On 7/28/2011 7:58 PM, WLS wrote: John Mckenzie wrote: I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John Try 2.4a2. I do not think so. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
Jens Hatlak wrote: 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, Jens, can you say more about this switch to the rapid release process, for the benefit of those of us who are outside the inner circle and are therefore probably unaware of what this rapid release process is, and why it was instigated (and at whose behest ?). Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2
John Mckenzie wrote: On 7/28/2011 7:58 PM, WLS wrote: John Mckenzie wrote: I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John Try 2.4a2. I do not think so. Just trying to push you over the edge. :) What exactly do you mean when you say it did not save or what ever your passwords? Are you trying to register at a new site and SM 2.2 isn't asking if you want it to remember passwords? My passwords are still there from my default profile I have been using since 2.0.x. I can't recall trying to register at any new sites, and add new passwords, so can't comment on whether that works or not. I do know some of the sites I went to in SM 2.0.x, I wasn't asked if I wanted to save the password when I registered. Same with Fx 3.6.x. I guess I should throw a tantrum. They are financial sites and I just figured it was an extra bit of security on their part, How silly of me to not recognize it was the browsers fault. Tabbed browsing can be turned off by editing the preferences. Look in Browser Link Behavior and Browser Tabbed Browsing. -- Using SeaMonkey 2.4a2 on openSUSE 11.3 Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2
On 7/29/2011 10:17 AM, WLS wrote: John Mckenzie wrote: On 7/28/2011 7:58 PM, WLS wrote: John Mckenzie wrote: I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John Try 2.4a2. I do not think so. Just trying to push you over the edge. :) What exactly do you mean when you say it did not save or what ever your passwords? Are you trying to register at a new site and SM 2.2 isn't asking if you want it to remember passwords? My passwords are still there from my default profile I have been using since 2.0.x. I can't recall trying to register at any new sites, and add new passwords, so can't comment on whether that works or not. I do know some of the sites I went to in SM 2.0.x, I wasn't asked if I wanted to save the password when I registered. Same with Fx 3.6.x. I guess I should throw a tantrum. They are financial sites and I just figured it was an extra bit of security on their part, How silly of me to not recognize it was the browsers fault. Tabbed browsing can be turned off by editing the preferences. Look in Browser Link Behavior and Browser Tabbed Browsing. The only passwords in PasswordManager were the ones that I used after updating to SM2.2. My wife did the updated too and it lost some of her email addresses in addressbook. I keep a all my passwords in another location so I did not really loose anything but, SM obviously did not update properly. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
Philip TAYLOR (Webmaster, Ret'd) wrote: Jens Hatlak wrote: 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, Jens, can you say more about this switch to the rapid release process, for the benefit of those of us who are outside the inner circle and are therefore probably unaware of what this rapid release process is, and why it was instigated (and at whose behest ?). Basically it means that a new major stable version is released every six weeks, and security updates will only be fixed for that new version; the previous versions are discontinued instantly. Since the Mozilla platform (the rendering engine Gecko etc.) is bound to the Firefox release schedule, that decision didn't leave us with much of a choice. We had to follow suit(e). This was brought up by the Firefox guys, who wanted to have more and quicker releases to bring new features (especially support for new web technologies) to the 200+ million people that use Firefox. Previously new major stable versions only appeared after many months, often years. Their decision made some waves; especially corporate users are now mostly left in the cold. Efforts were announced to work on those issues but it's unclear what the outcome will be. HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
Jens Hatlak wrote: Basically it means that a new major stable version is released every six weeks, and security updates will only be fixed for that new version; the previous versions are discontinued instantly. Since the Mozilla platform (the rendering engine Gecko etc.) is bound to the Firefox release schedule, that decision didn't leave us with much of a choice. We had to follow suit(e). This was brought up by the Firefox guys, who wanted to have more and quicker releases to bring new features (especially support for new web technologies) to the 200+ million people that use Firefox. Previously new major stable versions only appeared after many months, often years. Their decision made some waves; especially corporate users are now mostly left in the cold. Efforts were announced to work on those issues but it's unclear what the outcome will be. Very many thanks, Jens : much appreciated. My personal feeling is that this does not bode well, for Firefox, for Seamonkey and for anything Gecko-based. I just hope I am proved wrong. Philip Taylor ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2
I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 state WAS: Sidebar Search change in 2.2
hawker wrote: That said 2.2 has had the most regression bugs, lost features and new bugs of any version I have seen since before 1.0. I hope this new rapid release is not causing SM quality to suffer and this is just a bad build that we will get past. What is the feeling of the development team on this build or is this just the build where the issues have finally gotten to areas that affect me? Yes, SM 2.2 contained more issues than usual. We tried to fix some issues 2.1 had but others popped up, especially in MailNews and the address book (some things were not fixed entirely, and changes Thunderbird developers made to shared MailNews code were not fixed on our end fast enough). 2.2 was the first release after we switched to the rapid release process, and in this case we had even fewer time than the usual 6-18 weeks that the process dictates because 2.1 had already been delayed. Also there are some problems that appear due to the all-volunteer nature of the project. There are only very few developers in the first place, reviews (which are mandatory for any code change) take quite long. In former times (before 2.2) we had many months time to fix things and release when it's ready. Now we're pretty much date-driven. This requires paying more attention to regressions by everyone involved. There is a lesson to be learned there, and I think 2.3 will be better overall [even though I personally would have voted to respin 2.3b1 so that we don't release a beta with major issues that are already known to be fixed for 2.3]. Personally I'm not a huge fan of the rapid, date-driven release process either but we have little choice: Security fixes (which usually affect Gecko or other code shared with Firefox) are only fixed on the latest stable Mozilla platform version so we cannot skip one without exposing our users to security risks. This is (very) unfortunate but nothing we can influence, so there is no point in complaining about it. We have to make the best out of it. Greetings, Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2
John Mckenzie wrote: I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John Try 2.4a2. -- Using SeaMonkey 2.4a2 on openSUSE 11.3 Linux ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2
On 7/28/2011 8:58 PM, WLS wrote: John Mckenzie wrote: I think that I have just about had it with SM2.2. It did not save or what ever my passwords and tabbed browsing sucks donkeys. i am going nuts using this atrocious browser. John Try 2.4a2. Really I would never recommend an alpha for a user, and barely even a beta, but we do have 2.3beta1 available for those who want beta quality. The 2.4a2 is nightly builds without _any_ quality assurance from us developers. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 bookmarks
Is there any way to move some of that junk at the top of the bookmarks drop-down menu down to the bottom? When I click on Bookmarks, I just want to see MY bookmarks, not a bunch of other options like bookmark tabs, subscribe to this page personal toolbar. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 bookmarks
On 7/27/2011 3:29 PM Donna Waltman submitted the following: Is there any way to move some of that junk at the top of the bookmarks drop-down menu down to the bottom? When I click on Bookmarks, I just want to see MY bookmarks, not a bunch of other options like bookmark tabs, subscribe to this page personal toolbar. Right click on what you don't want and select 'cut'. Just make SURE you don't want it. -- Ed http://JonesFarm.us/W3BNR Powered by SeaMonkey: http://www.seamonkey-project.org/ We humans are indeed fortunate if we happen to be chosen to be owned by a cat. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 bookmarks
W3BNR wrote: Right click on what you don't want and select 'cut'. Just make SURE you don't want it. Not available (for me) for Personal toolbar, which is most certainly my top priority to remove from this list. ** Phil (formerly G3TGQ). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks, SM 2.2 auto-update
User wrote: Daniel wrote: Daniel wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Saturday night, I did the auto-update from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 on my Mandriva Linux 2009.0 Now I find I've got an empty bookmarks file. Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result. It seems the only old site addresses I've keep are those in the address bar drop down. Try to go into the bookmarks manager and manually import the old bookmarks.html - I'm not really sure why sometimes this doesn't happen by default. :( Robert Kaiser Thanks for the very prompt reply, Robert, but did you miss where I typed Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result?? This is not looking good, thenmust have been time to edit my Bookmarks file, anyway, I suppose. Either that or Back-up, Back-up, Back-up!! O.K., people, you can stop worrying!! I remembered I had more than on profile, so switched to one of the other profiles, found it still had a reasonably up to date bookmarks file, so exported that, changed profiles and imported the bookmarks file into the main profile. Phew!! Have you ever tried Mozbackup? http://mozbackup.jasnapaka.com/ Saved my butt more than once ;-) No, maybe next time!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Lost Bookmarks, SM 2.2 auto-update
Saturday night, I did the auto-update from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 on my Mandriva Linux 2009.0 Now I find I've got an empty bookmarks file. Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result. It seems the only old site addresses I've keep are those in the address bar drop down. Anybody got any advise for me (apart from Back-up, Back-up, Back-up!!)? TIA -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks, SM 2.2 auto-update
Daniel schrieb: Saturday night, I did the auto-update from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 on my Mandriva Linux 2009.0 Now I find I've got an empty bookmarks file. Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result. It seems the only old site addresses I've keep are those in the address bar drop down. Try to go into the bookmarks manager and manually import the old bookmarks.html - I'm not really sure why sometimes this doesn't happen by default. :( Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks, SM 2.2 auto-update
Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Saturday night, I did the auto-update from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 on my Mandriva Linux 2009.0 Now I find I've got an empty bookmarks file. Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result. It seems the only old site addresses I've keep are those in the address bar drop down. Try to go into the bookmarks manager and manually import the old bookmarks.html - I'm not really sure why sometimes this doesn't happen by default. :( Robert Kaiser Thanks for the very prompt reply, Robert, but did you miss where I typed Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result?? This is not looking good, thenmust have been time to edit my Bookmarks file, anyway, I suppose. Either that or Back-up, Back-up, Back-up!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Lost Bookmarks, SM 2.2 auto-update
Daniel wrote: Robert Kaiser wrote: Daniel schrieb: Saturday night, I did the auto-update from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.2 on my Mandriva Linux 2009.0 Now I find I've got an empty bookmarks file. Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result. It seems the only old site addresses I've keep are those in the address bar drop down. Try to go into the bookmarks manager and manually import the old bookmarks.html - I'm not really sure why sometimes this doesn't happen by default. :( Robert Kaiser Thanks for the very prompt reply, Robert, but did you miss where I typed Searching for Bookmark brings a zero result?? This is not looking good, thenmust have been time to edit my Bookmarks file, anyway, I suppose. Either that or Back-up, Back-up, Back-up!! O.K., people, you can stop worrying!! I remembered I had more than on profile, so switched to one of the other profiles, found it still had a reasonably up to date bookmarks file, so exported that, changed profiles and imported the bookmarks file into the main profile. Phew!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
chokito wrote: The problem is a false declaration from MS in the header of the e- mail! --- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary==_NextPart_000_0047_01CC3F14.67A3B6E0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvM+w1nVYbBX9dkRj +h1JJ1yJeTwwAAKdDQAAAhERAAAhNggAABAMjQAAMAuSAce0UxkA== Content-Language: de-ch X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 9.0.901 [271.1.1/3756] --- So, I have changed the above content-type in the header to Content- Type: multipart/mixed;, and its work! How did you change the header in a received mail ? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Aw: Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
How did you change the header in a received mail ? With an text editor (UltraEdit) the file inbox in the mail-account. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Aw: Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
chokito wrote: How did you change the header in a received mail ? With an text editor (UltraEdit) the file inbox in the mail-account. For that strategy, I find it helpful to drag and drop the message in question to a folder that contains few or no other messages before closing SM and launching the editor. That makes it easier to find in the editor. Once I'm done, I can relaunch SM and drag the message back to the desired folder. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
chokito wrote: The problem is a false declaration from MS in the header of the e- mail! --- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary==_NextPart_000_0047_01CC3F14.67A3B6E0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvM+w1nVYbBX9dkRj +h1JJ1yJeTwwAAKdDQAAAhERAAAhNggAABAMjQAAMAuSAce0UxkA== Content-Language: de-ch X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 9.0.901 [271.1.1/3756] --- So, I have changed the above content-type in the header to Content- Type: multipart/mixed;, and its work! I believe I got hit by this today as well for 2.2. Edmund ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 : Shift Middle-click on link behavior reversed
Hello, I just upgraded from 2.0.14 to 2.2 and now when I middle click on a link, the tab is opened but not focused, while if I maintain Shift pressed as I middle click it instantly gives focus to the new tab. This use to be the opposite in 2.0.14, that is, I had to maintain Shift pressed if I wanted the tab to be opened but not focused. How can I get the old behavior back? I went through the options and could not find anything obvious, nor did anything came up obvious in about:config Thanks for your help ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Upgrading to SM 2.2. causes loss of function in vital accessory
I tonight installed SM 2.2. With my browser I have long used an integrated password,etc.-remembering tool, RoboForm Pro. Tonight one box that appeared unbidden on my screen was headed [JavaScript Application]. The first line read, 'The Adapter supports only seamonkey ver. 2.0 to 2.9.*.' Something wrong there, no? The latest SM version is 2.2, right? Which is what I just installed. The next line read, 'You are using seamonkey ver. rv:5.0'. Huh? The last line read, 'Click Ok to go to web page that explains how to install RoboForm Adapter as extension.' Well, I clicked on Ok as instructed. Result: a blank page. Near the top of my screen is a RoboForm line which now reads just 'Unsupported browser'. Further frustration. Looks like I can't go back to SM 2.0.18 (I think it was) which is what I was using before. The 'Known Issues' note for SM 2.2 is headed (in bold), 'Data loss warning' and continues: 'If you use a profile with this or any later version and then try to go back to SeaMonkey 2.0, SeaMonkey will rename your history file to places.sqlite.corrupt and create a new places.qlite file, effectively resetting your browsing history.' Well, I don't pretend to understand all of that, but it does seem to be saying that I will lose data if I try to restore the SM version I had before. No? Please, any helpful comments? Thanks - Ken (in Oz) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
This is the beginning of the Gamma testing of SM 2.2
Now with the release of the auto upgrade script from 2.0.14 to 2.2 begins the testing of 2.2 by the actual using public. Now all the gratuitous UI changes as well as the more serious bugs crawl out of the woodwork (the code) and begin to be reported. In previous version upgrades, there might have followed a series of bug fix and gratuitous change retraction releases. But no more. -- Rostyk ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
On 20 Jul., 03:46, NoOp gl...@sbcglobal.net.invalid wrote: On 07/19/2011 10:36 AM, Michael Gordon wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: chokito wrote: I received an e-mail thats not show the attachment. - X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 - Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Microsoft Outlook Express shows the attachment! I see this behavior occasionally, going back many versions. In preview mode, the attachment won't be visible; but when I double-click on the message, then it's obviously there. I've learned to check by double-clicking before advising senders that their attachment didn't arrive! (have never been able to figure out what causes this random behavior) Is it possible that the sender composed the message in HTML and used the Attachment box to include the file? Â Instead of placing the image file inline the message body? Michael G I just sent a test wmv to myself (SeaMonkey 2.2 - linux) and I do see the attachment: Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Â name=test_wmv.wmv Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; Â filename=test_wmv.wmv Obviously I have to play it with an external application (movieplayer), but the attachment comes through just fine I do see the attachment symbol next to the email subject indicating that an attachment is there. Got the test file from here:http://www.archive.org/details/WorkToFishtestwmv The problem only occurs, if Content-Type: multipart/related; is in the header! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 not showing attachment
I received an e-mail thats not show the attachment. - X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 - Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Microsoft Outlook Express shows the attachment! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
chokito wrote: I received an e-mail thats not show the attachment. - X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 - Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Microsoft Outlook Express shows the attachment! I see this behavior occasionally, going back many versions. In preview mode, the attachment won't be visible; but when I double-click on the message, then it's obviously there. I've learned to check by double-clicking before advising senders that their attachment didn't arrive! (have never been able to figure out what causes this random behavior) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
The problem is a false declaration from MS in the header of the e- mail! --- MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/related; boundary==_NextPart_000_0047_01CC3F14.67A3B6E0 X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 Thread-Index: AcvM+w1nVYbBX9dkRj +h1JJ1yJeTwwAAKdDQAAAhERAAAhNggAABAMjQAAMAuSAce0UxkA== Content-Language: de-ch X-Antivirus: AVG for E-mail 9.0.901 [271.1.1/3756] --- So, I have changed the above content-type in the header to Content- Type: multipart/mixed;, and its work! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
Bill Spikowski wrote: chokito wrote: I received an e-mail thats not show the attachment. - X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 - Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Microsoft Outlook Express shows the attachment! I see this behavior occasionally, going back many versions. In preview mode, the attachment won't be visible; but when I double-click on the message, then it's obviously there. I've learned to check by double-clicking before advising senders that their attachment didn't arrive! (have never been able to figure out what causes this random behavior) Is it possible that the sender composed the message in HTML and used the Attachment box to include the file? Instead of placing the image file inline the message body? Michael G ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
Is it possible that the sender composed the message in HTML and used the Attachment box to include the file? Â Instead of placing the image file inline the message body? Michael G The attachment file is a video.wmv. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 not showing attachment
On 07/19/2011 10:36 AM, Michael Gordon wrote: Bill Spikowski wrote: chokito wrote: I received an e-mail thats not show the attachment. - X-Mailer: Microsoft Office Outlook 12.0 - Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; Microsoft Outlook Express shows the attachment! I see this behavior occasionally, going back many versions. In preview mode, the attachment won't be visible; but when I double-click on the message, then it's obviously there. I've learned to check by double-clicking before advising senders that their attachment didn't arrive! (have never been able to figure out what causes this random behavior) Is it possible that the sender composed the message in HTML and used the Attachment box to include the file? Instead of placing the image file inline the message body? Michael G I just sent a test wmv to myself (SeaMonkey 2.2 - linux) and I do see the attachment: Content-Type: video/x-ms-wmv; name=test_wmv.wmv Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: attachment; filename=test_wmv.wmv Obviously I have to play it with an external application (movieplayer), but the attachment comes through just fine I do see the attachment symbol next to the email subject indicating that an attachment is there. Got the test file from here: http://www.archive.org/details/WorkToFishtestwmv ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
Paul Bergsagel wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 8:11 PM, Robert Gault wrote: William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URLhttp://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7. Yes, it works okay in a Windows system. But the problem is being reported for a Mac system. Works fine on my iMac with the latest version of Java installed. Mac OS X 10.6.8 You want to check that you have the Java Plug in 2 for NPAPI browser (NPAPI) refers to Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface. If I understand things correctly, the reason the reason the plug-in Java Plug in 2... is required is because of the manner that Apple's version of Java works. Apple's java is not handled directly by the browser, so this plug in is needed to act as a go between between the browser and Apple's Java. You need to check to make sure you have Java Plug in 2 for NPAPI browser (the version I have installed is 13.5.0). To check for the Java 2 plug in go to the Seamonkey help menu and click on it. Click on the last item About Plugins and a list of all your installed plugins. Apple's Java will not work if Java 2 Plug-in is missing. I hope this helps. As it turns out I had to uninstall Java Embedding Plugin by deleting the following two files: JavaEmbeddingPlugin.bundle MRJPlugin.plugin Once I did that, Java operated fine in SM2.2 and, yes, I do have Java 2 Plugin enabled. Thanks ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
[Ubuntu 11.04 / SM 2.2] How to find a particular bookmark?
Is there a way easily to determine in which of my bookmark folders (I have many) a particular bookmark is stored in? I know the bookmark is there somewhere (because SM won't add a new bookmark when I attempt to bookmark an already-bookmarked site, and because within bookmark manager I can search / find the bookmark). However, I can't (easily) determine which folder the bookmark's in (the containing folder isn't indicated in the search result). BTW - is SM's refusal to add another instance of an already existing bookmark (via the browser's bookmark this page menu option) intentional? Nothing seems to happen when I do that (but within the bookmark manager I can cut/paste additional copies of an existing bookmark, so I can't imagine why there'd be a browser restriction). Thx, Rob L ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Ubuntu 11.04 / SM 2.2] How to find a particular bookmark?
Rob Lindauer wrote: Is there a way easily to determine in which of my bookmark folders (I have many) a particular bookmark is stored in? If you open the bookmark and click the bookmark icon at the end of the location bar, the containing folder is shown. Unfortunately there is no easy way (that I know of) from the search results. Philip Chee's xSidebar provided a context menu item for that for the old Bookmark Manager, but that was using the old back-end. BTW - is SM's refusal to add another instance of an already existing bookmark (via the browser's bookmark this page menu option) intentional? Yes. The idea is to add tags (which was not possible in former times) in such cases and otherwise only store a location once, since that allows to store and optionally show additional information such as last visited date and number of visits (in combination with the browsing history, which is now stored in the same database). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: [Ubuntu 11.04 / SM 2.2] How to find a particular bookmark?
Jens Hatlak wrote: ... Jens Thank you, Jens ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 8:11 PM, Robert Gault wrote: William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URLhttp://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7. Yes, it works okay in a Windows system. But the problem is being reported for a Mac system. Works fine on my iMac with the latest version of Java installed. Mac OS X 10.6.8 You want to check that you have the Java Plug in 2 for NPAPI browser (NPAPI) refers to Netscape Plugin Application Programming Interface. If I understand things correctly, the reason the reason the plug-in Java Plug in 2... is required is because of the manner that Apple's version of Java works. Apple's java is not handled directly by the browser, so this plug in is needed to act as a go between between the browser and Apple's Java. You need to check to make sure you have Java Plug in 2 for NPAPI browser (the version I have installed is 13.5.0). To check for the Java 2 plug in go to the Seamonkey help menu and click on it. Click on the last item About Plugins and a list of all your installed plugins. Apple's Java will not work if Java 2 Plug-in is missing. I hope this helps. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem (Solution!)
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 4:22 PM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. Try viewinghttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm. If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and not your setup. By the way, please bottom-post. That is, put your new reply below the quoted messages, not above. Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that convention here. On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to top-post as you have been doing. This is mentioned in Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states: If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. I triedhttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm as you suggested. It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering properly? Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on the Brightness bar below the colored circle. The default is background color. You should see the background color in the rectangle under Sample Document change to match the position of the little ring, and you should see the number after Brightness change as you move the slider (0 at the far left and 100 at the far right). Also, the hex color-codes should change both to the right of the word Background and after BGCOLOR in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons. You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links, etc. I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java. Of course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web pages and in Word documents. I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no little ring in the large colored circle or slider or radio buttons... just some text. Okay, you have a problem with your configuration. I got what I described by selecting the link from your earlier reply, just to make sure that you had the correct link. One last suggestion before major surgery: Try running SeaMonkey in Safe Mode. If the installation did not provide a proper way to get that, my shortcut in Windows has C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode Safe mode temporarily disables all extensions but not external plugins. If you still can't get it to work right with Safe Mode, I hate to suggest the following because I
Re: FF 5.0.1 - mapping to SM 2.2?
Justin Wood (Callek) schrieb: On 7/13/2011 4:50 PM, Philipp van Hüllen wrote: Hi, is a SM 2.2.1 planned with the Mac OS 10.7 (and 10.5 Java) related fixes included in FF 5.0.1? I don't think, I will jump to 10.7 ASAP, but I'd feel better, if I could. ;-) (Though SM 2.3 might be out already, when I move...) At this point, considering the complications in shipping a 2.2.1 to mac only, we feel it is in our best interests to not ship a 2.2.1 just for these issues. Perfectly fine, considering the likely release effort. (Building, testing, documenting, distributing.) Especially considering those bugs not to be too critical and I guess that 10.7.1 might be a better starting point than 10.7 anyway. ;-) 2.3b1 will hopefully be out soon, and we plan to direct 10.7 SeaMonkey users at that (or 2.3 itself). If our metrics report contrary to our assumptions here, we may revisit this choice, but for the time being that is as we choose. Sounds sensible. And good to know, you had/have a plan. We are not precluding the choice to build from source yourself with those fixes of course! Ah, thanks for the offer. My internal feasibility study currently results in: In case I'd had time I'd be interested. ;-) Thanks again for the answers Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
On 2011/07/12 22:30 (GMT-0400) Joe32065 composed: If you go to View-Zoom-120% everything looks good, but every time you go to a new page it goes small again. I don't see a way to make zoom-120% the default. Zoom is a defense mechanism, to counteract sites that aren't allowing your default size to be the dominant size on their pages. It isn't designed to alter the defaults, which is exactly what font sizes in the preferences panel are for. If you want 120% everywhere, choose the size(s) that are 120% of what you have there now. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
On 2011/07/12 06:24 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed: My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for example. Tab text size and tab height are theme dependent. SM tabs are shorter in Modern theme than in default theme, the latter of which was close in height to the FF default last I checked. The only time I see the default theme is in a new profile in the few seconds between initial startup, changing theme to Modern, and restarting. It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and in the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations, but the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with me if the font size were increased at all of those locations. Is there any way? I've been controlling mine via userChrome.css for probably at least 7 years. -- The wise are known for their understanding, and pleasant words are persuasive. Proverbs 16:21 (New Living Translation) Team OS/2 ** Reg. Linux User #211409 ** a11y rocks! Felix Miata *** http://fm.no-ip.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [EditPreferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [AdvancedScriptsPlugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. Try viewinghttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm. If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and not your setup. By the way, please bottom-post. That is, put your new reply below the quoted messages, not above. Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that convention here. On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to top-post as you have been doing. This is mentioned in Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states: If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. I tried http://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm as you suggested. It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering properly? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
NoOp wrote: On 07/12/2011 04:41 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Following instructions for Mac users at java.com , I have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. Please bottom post on this list. What exactly is the Java version? NoOp wrote: ... And just which version do you have installed? Go to http://java.com - click on the 'Do I have Java' link then 'Verify Java version' on the next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return something like: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26). Running version 1.6.0_26 on Mac OS10.6.8 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
On 7/13/11 9:32 AM, JohnQPublic wrote:
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote in message
news:abqdnvazvuh7j4dtnz2dnuvz_sydn...@mozilla.org...
On 7/12/11 11:26 PM, Felix Miata wrote:
On 2011/07/12 06:24 (GMT-0500) JohnQPublic composed:
My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in
SeaMonkey
2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically
(taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for
example.
Tab text size and tab height are theme dependent. SM tabs are shorter in
Modern
theme than in default theme, the latter of which was close in height to
the FF
default last I checked. The only time I see the default theme is in a new
profile in the few seconds between initial startup, changing theme to
Modern,
and restarting.
It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and
in
the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations,
but
the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with
me
if the font size were increased at all of those locations.
Is there any way?
I've been controlling mine via userChrome.css for probably at least 7
years.
This goes in the chrome folder in your profile (not the chrome folder in
the SeaMonkey root). If you don't already have a file named
userChrome.css, copy the userChrome-example.css and rename it to be
userChrome.css.
Edit userChrome.css to contain the following:
/* Font size on tabs */
.tabbrowser-tab { font-size: 110% !important }
The first line is merely a comment to document the second line. You can
vary the 110% to suit your needs, but 110% is perfect for me. Be sure
to heed the warning about not removing the @namespace line.
Thanks! Works fine. My .css file is growing.
I wonder if these .css tweaks of the SeaMonkey GUI are all available in a
list somewhere? Or is it just hand-me-down, one-at-a-time info? I know
nothing about .css but can play monkey-see, monkey-do... :)
I asked the same question yesterday in a different thread and a bit
differently. I asked if there is a user-oriented document on tweaking
userChrome.css and userChrome.css. The answer is No.
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Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
NoOp wrote: On 07/13/2011 07:10 AM, William Greenwood wrote: ... I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate otherwise. When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java is enabled for that browser. Are there some settings I can change in about:config on Seamonkey? Edit|Preferences|Advanced| tick - 'Enable Java' It is enabled. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 07/13/2011 03:11 PM, William Greenwood wrote: NoOp wrote: On 07/13/2011 07:10 AM, William Greenwood wrote: ... I just discovered another mystery: when I go to javatester.org with Seamonkey 2.2 to test my java version it says it is disabled on my browser, even though all the Seamonkey preference settings indicate otherwise. When I run the same test on my Safari browser, it says Java is enabled for that browser. Are there some settings I can change in about:config on Seamonkey? Edit|Preferences|Advanced| tick - 'Enable Java' It is enabled. You might try unenabling reenabling. Check in about:config enter java in the filter. You should have: security.enable_java;true Also in the same, check to see what the library name is etc. Example: java.java_plugin_library_name;javaplugin_oji Do you by chance have prefbar installed? If so, check to ensure that the 'Java' box has a check in it. Other than that I can think of any other suggestions at the moment. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 7/13/11 4:22 PM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the ScriptsPlugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [HelpAbout Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. Try viewinghttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm. If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and not your setup. By the way, please bottom-post. That is, put your new reply below the quoted messages, not above. Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that convention here. On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to top-post as you have been doing. This is mentioned in Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states: If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. I triedhttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm as you suggested. It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering properly? Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on the Brightness bar below the colored circle. The default is background color. You should see the background color in the rectangle under Sample Document change to match the position of the little ring, and you should see the number after Brightness change as you move the slider (0 at the far left and 100 at the far right). Also, the hex color-codes should change both to the right of the word Background and after BGCOLOR in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons. You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links, etc. I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java. Of course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web pages and in Word documents. I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no little ring in the large colored circle or slider or radio buttons... just some text. Okay, you have a problem with your configuration. I got what I described by selecting the link from your earlier reply, just to make sure that you had the correct link. One last suggestion before major surgery: Try running SeaMonkey in Safe Mode. If the installation did not provide a proper way to get that, my shortcut in Windows has C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode Safe mode temporarily disables all extensions but not external plugins. If you still can't get it to work right with Safe Mode, I hate to
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 4:22 PM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/13/11 5:33 AM, William Greenwood wrote: David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. Try viewinghttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm. If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and not your setup. By the way, please bottom-post. That is, put your new reply below the quoted messages, not above. Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that convention here. On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to top-post as you have been doing. This is mentioned in Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states: If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. I triedhttp://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm as you suggested. It produces a page, but how do I know if it is rendering properly? Maneuver the little ring in the large colored circle and the slider on the Brightness bar below the colored circle. The default is background color. You should see the background color in the rectangle under Sample Document change to match the position of the little ring, and you should see the number after Brightness change as you move the slider (0 at the far left and 100 at the far right). Also, the hex color-codes should change both to the right of the word Background and after BGCOLOR in the mark-up area just under the radio buttons. You select different radio buttons to see color changes for text, links, etc. I use this as an added test each time I get a new version of Java. Of course, I also use this to determine the color-codes to use on my Web pages and in Word documents. I don't think the link rendered correctly since there is no little ring in the large colored circle or slider or radio buttons... just some text. Okay, you have a problem with your configuration. I got what I described by selecting the link from your earlier reply, just to make sure that you had the correct link. One last suggestion before major surgery: Try running SeaMonkey in Safe Mode. If the installation did not provide a proper way to get that, my shortcut in Windows has C:\SeaMonkey2\seamonkey.exe -safe-mode Safe mode temporarily disables all extensions but not external plugins. If you still can't get it to work right with Safe Mode, I hate to suggest the following because I
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: FF 5.0.1 - mapping to SM 2.2?
On 7/13/2011 4:50 PM, Philipp van Hüllen wrote: Hi, is a SM 2.2.1 planned with the Mac OS 10.7 (and 10.5 Java) related fixes included in FF 5.0.1? I don't think, I will jump to 10.7 ASAP, but I'd feel better, if I could. ;-) (Though SM 2.3 might be out already, when I move...) At this point, considering the complications in shipping a 2.2.1 to mac only, we feel it is in our best interests to not ship a 2.2.1 just for these issues. 2.3b1 will hopefully be out soon, and we plan to direct 10.7 SeaMonkey users at that (or 2.3 itself). If our metrics report contrary to our assumptions here, we may revisit this choice, but for the time being that is as we choose. We are not precluding the choice to build from source yourself with those fixes of course! -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 7/13/11 8:11 PM, Robert Gault wrote: William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 Works without the Java message in Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 5.1; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 with Java Version: 6.0.240.7. Yes, it works okay in a Windows system. But the problem is being reported for a Mac system. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
JohnQPublic wrote: My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for example. It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and in the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations, but the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with me if the font size were increased at all of those locations. Is there any way? Thanks. Here are ways to adjust text size: 1. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Adjust Font Size 2. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Display Settings 3. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Window Color and Appearance/Advanced. Then try adjusting Message Box and Menu fonts to larger and possibly different fonts. 4. In SeaMonkey, Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts. Then make size column values 16, 16, 18. You might also want to change some of fonts (experiment with them). Stan ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Aw: Password Manager SM 2.2
You should see this window... http://homepage.hispeed.ch/chokito/SeaMonkey_22PWInfo.png ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
Danny Kile schrieb: I see now such list in SM 2.2 I must be missing something, could someone tell what it is. It's part of Permissions in Data Manager now. Robert Kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
On 7/11/11 8:18 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Some version back there was an option to tell SM not to save a password for some sites. However, later if you wanted to save a password for that site you went in to password manager and and deleted that site from the never save list, then I would ask you next time if you wanted to save if and you could. I see now such list in SM 2.2 I must be missing something, could someone tell what it is. Thank you, I think you mean you cannot see the list of domains for which passwords will not be saved. That is now bug #670938. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670938. There is a workaround. Install the extension Password Exporter 1.2.1 from http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com. Then access the old Password Manager window in the following way. 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Passwords]. 3. On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button (added by the Password Exporter extension). 4. On the Import/Export Passwords window, select the View Saved Passwords button in the lower-left corner. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Aw: Password Manager SM 2.2
On 7/12/11 7:32 AM, chokito wrote: You should see this window... http://homepage.hispeed.ch/chokito/SeaMonkey_22PWInfo.png That applies only to the current instance of using a password. Having once set Never Remember Password for This Site, SM 2.2 no longer has the capability to remove the site from the Never Remember list. That is, if you say Never, you cannot change your mind. In SM 2.0.x, this was a capability. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
Stan s.c.pie...@comcast.net wrote in message news:myodnbfxij4m0ohtnz2dnuvz_qwdn...@mozilla.org... JohnQPublic wrote: My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for example. It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and in the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations, but the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with me if the font size were increased at all of those locations. Is there any way? Thanks. Here are ways to adjust text size: 1. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Adjust Font Size 2. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Display Settings 3. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Window Color and Appearance/Advanced. Then try adjusting Message Box and Menu fonts to larger and possibly different fonts. 4. In SeaMonkey, Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts. Then make size column values 16, 16, 18. You might also want to change some of fonts (experiment with them). Thanks. That did it. It has been years since I played around with those settings and I did myself some real good. My old eyes thank you! FYI: the SeaMonkey font settings don't affect the font size used on the tabs. That is controlled by windows Message Box. In my Windows XP the path is: rightclick Desktop Properties Appearance Advanced Message Box Note: the height of the tabs in SeaMonkey is still a bit less than Firefox. -- J.Q.P. (FF3.6.18 default browser, customized FF5.0_portable with FF3+ theme, Chrome12_portable, Opera11_portable, Iron12_portable, Maxthon3_portable, SeaMonkey2.2_portable, IE6, Outlook Express default mail/news, XP Home SP3) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Aw: Re: Aw: Password Manager SM 2.2
Am Dienstag, 12. Juli 2011 17:58:40 UTC+2 schrieb David E. Ross: On 7/12/11 7:32 AM, chokito wrote: You should see this window... http://homepage.hispeed.ch/chokito/SeaMonkey_22PWInfo.png That applies only to the current instance of using a password. Having once set Never Remember Password for This Site, SM 2.2 no longer has the capability to remove the site from the Never Remember list. That is, if you say Never, you cannot change your mind. In SM 2.0.x, this was a capability. Works fine for me... Tools Data Manager All data types or Permissions only ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
Interviewed by CNN on 12/07/2011 12:39, Robert Kaiser told the world: Danny Kile schrieb: I see now such list in SM 2.2 I must be missing something, could someone tell what it is. It's part of Permissions in Data Manager now. By the way, I'm still unable to use the passwords part of data manager. I have passwords saved for a bunch of sites (including bugzilla), but when I look at the Data Manager the password tabs are always greyed out. If I select passwords only, it lists *no* sites. I haven't figured out the reason yet. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my U.S. Robotics Pilot 100. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 Java problem
Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
On 7/12/11 8:49 AM, David E. Ross wrote: On 7/11/11 8:18 PM, Danny Kile wrote: Some version back there was an option to tell SM not to save a password for some sites. However, later if you wanted to save a password for that site you went in to password manager and and deleted that site from the never save list, then I would ask you next time if you wanted to save if and you could. I see now such list in SM 2.2 I must be missing something, could someone tell what it is. Thank you, I think you mean you cannot see the list of domains for which passwords will not be saved. That is now bug #670938. See https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=670938. There is a workaround. Install the extension Password Exporter 1.2.1 from http://passwordexporter.fligtar.com. Then access the old Password Manager window in the following way. 1. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, select [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, select [Privacy Security Passwords]. 3. On the Passwords pane, select the Import/Export Passwords button (added by the Password Exporter extension). 4. On the Import/Export Passwords window, select the View Saved Passwords button in the lower-left corner. I have been informed that the Permissions tab shows if a domain has Never Save set for passwords. I tested that, and it does work. Thus, I have marked my bug #670938 as resolved. Bug #664574 at https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=664574 addresses the ability to view several or all domains at once to see which ones have Never Save. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 07/12/2011 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 And just which version do you have installed? Go to http://java.com - click on the 'Do I have Java' link then 'Verify Java version' on the next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return something like: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPXI get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
Following instructions for Mac users at java.com , I have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. NoOp wrote: On 07/12/2011 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPX I get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 And just which version do you have installed? Go to http://java.com - click on the 'Do I have Java' link then 'Verify Java version' on the next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return something like: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 7/12/11 4:40 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Yes, I am using a MAC and have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 11:34 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Thank you for your clear instructions, which I followed completely, but I still cannot get the page to work. Can you elaborate on your point You might want also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do? What boxes should I check there? David E. Ross wrote: On 7/12/11 10:41 AM, William Greenwood wrote: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (Macintosh; Intel Mac OS X 10.6; rv:5.0) Gecko/20110706 Firefox/5.0 SeaMonkey/2.2 When going to URL http://stockcharts.com/freecharts/dynamicpnf.html?$SPXI get message: You either do not have Java enabled or you have an out-of-date version of Java installed. Please install the latest version from Java.com and try again. It worked fine with SM2.0.14 I'm not getting any problem. However, I recall that I had to reset the Java checkbox in my preferences after going from SM 2.0.14 to SM 2.1 (or was it from SM 2.1 to 2.2?). 1. On the menu bar, go to [Edit Preferences]. 2. On the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced]. 3. On the Advanced pane, make sure the Enable Java checkbox is checked. 4. Then, on the left side of the Preferences window under Category, go to [Advanced Scripts Plugins]. 5. Make sure the checkbox for Browser is checked. You might also want to review and adjust what scripts are allowed to do. The only two checkboxes that I have checked are: Change status bar text Change images However, none of the checkboxes on the Scripts Plugins pane -- including the Browser checkbox under Enable JavaScript for -- should have any connection to Java. Java and JavaScript are two completely different entities. On the SeaMonkey menu bar, go to [Help About Plugins]. On the Enabled plugins page, scroll down to Java(TM) Platform. What version number do you see? I have 6.0.260.3, but that's for Windows XP. You apparently are using a MAC. The Java download site says: Apple supplies their own version of Java. Use the Software Update feature (available on the Apple menu) to check that you have the most up-to-date version of Java for your Mac. Try viewing http://davesfiles.com/HTML/hex_decimal_color_picker.htm. If that works, your problem might be the stockcharts.com Web site and not your setup. By the way, please bottom-post. That is, put your new reply below the quoted messages, not above. Some inhabitants of the news.mozilla.org newsgroup get very nasty and hostile when visitors don't follow that convention here. On the other hand, some Usenet newsgroups want you to top-post as you have been doing. This is mentioned in Netiquette Guidelines (RFC 1855) in Section 3.1.1, where it states: If you are sending a reply to a message or a posting be sure you summarize the original at the top of the message, or include just enough text of the original to give a context. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 Java problem
On 07/12/2011 04:41 PM, William Greenwood wrote: Following instructions for Mac users at java.com , I have confirmed through Software Update that I am using the most current version of Java. It is puzzling that it worked fine with 2.0.14 but not with recently installed 2.2. Please bottom post on this list. What exactly is the Java version? NoOp wrote: ... And just which version do you have installed? Go to http://java.com - click on the 'Do I have Java' link then 'Verify Java version' on the next page. If you have the most recent version, it should return something like: Verified Java Version Congratulations! You have the recommended Java installed (Version 6 Update 26). ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
Interviewed by CNN on 12/07/2011 14:46, WLS told the world: That happens using Tools Password Manager Manage stored passwords? That takes me directly to the Passwords tab. Yes, that happens by using the path you mentioned too: I still cannot access the password tabs. Also using the drop down list above the Domain list gives you several options. I have tried that. If I select Passwords only, for instance, I get *no* domains listed at all. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my DEC Rainbow. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: text size too small on tabs (SM 2.2)
JohnQPublic wrote: Stans.c.pie...@comcast.net wrote in message news:myodnbfxij4m0ohtnz2dnuvz_qwdn...@mozilla.org... JohnQPublic wrote: My old eyes tell me that I need a larger text size on the tabs in SeaMonkey 2.2. That would require that the tabs and Tab Bar be bigger vertically (taller). They're noticably skinny vertically compared with Firefox, for example. It looks like the same size text is used on the Tab Bar, Menu Bar. and in the address window. It's marginally acceptable at those other locations, but the Tab Bar needs better legibility (a bigger font). It would be OK with me if the font size were increased at all of those locations. Is there any way? Thanks. Here are ways to adjust text size: 1. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Adjust Font Size 2. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Display Settings 3. Start/Settings/Control/Personalization/Window Color and Appearance/Advanced. Then try adjusting Message Box and Menu fonts to larger and possibly different fonts. 4. In SeaMonkey, Edit/Preferences/Appearance/Fonts. Then make size column values 16, 16, 18. You might also want to change some of fonts (experiment with them). Thanks. That did it. It has been years since I played around with those settings and I did myself some real good. My old eyes thank you! FYI: the SeaMonkey font settings don't affect the font size used on the tabs. That is controlled by windows Message Box. In my Windows XP the path is: rightclick Desktop Properties Appearance Advanced Message Box Note: the height of the tabs in SeaMonkey is still a bit less than Firefox. If you go to View-Zoom-120% everything looks good, but every time you go to a new page it goes small again. I don't see a way to make zoom-120% the default. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Password Manager SM 2.2
Interviewed by CNN on 12/07/2011 23:08, David E. Ross told the world: Did you get a request to enter your master password? No, but that's not surprising, since I don't use a master password on this computer. But you raise a valid point, so I tried setting up a master password. No change. And yes, I do know what a master password is for. But I don't save important passwords in Seamonkey, only the ones for non-vital stuff. The sensitive stuff is in a KeePass encrypted database (backed up four or five times). And this is a desktop computer, so it's not like there's a big chance of me losing it. I could be burglarized, true, but I don't lose sleep over some burglar logging on Wikia under my ID. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Etch-a-Sketch. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Total Lack of Social Skills. *Added by TagZilla 0.066.2 running on Seamonkey 2.1 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
MCBastos sent me the following:: Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ thx... used to be all mozilla addons or themes all were in one place and the page wold indicate whether said addon or theme was available for Firefox or SeaMonkey... sorta sad to see they can't be both added from the same download page... sean -- To watch us dance is to hear our hearts speak ~ Hopi Indian Saying courtesy of TagZilla 0.066.2 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
On 7/11/2011 9:13 AM, MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/07/2011 03:53, sean nathan bean told the world: Justin Wood (Callek) sent me the following:: On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. goint to the addon's page with: Build identifier: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux i686; rv:2.0.1) Gecko/20110608 Firefox/4.0.1 SeaMonkey/2.1 the addon's page tells me: This add-on requires Firefox 8.0a1. You are currently using Firefox 2.1. 8.0a1? ... i also see no place in about:config to change user agent... is there a string i need to add? i feel like i'm losing my mind here... Try using the Seamonkey download page instead of the Firefox one: https://addons.mozilla.org/seamonkey/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/ Err whops, yea. That was my mistake, (forgot the URL was app-specific). -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
SM 2.2 and Extensions
I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Part of the problem is that Add-ons Manager apparent no longer allows a generic declaration in install.rdf for the application to which the extension can be installed. Instead, a specific declaration is required for each application, which must be identified by a hex code number (92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a for SeaMonkey). Also, in some cases, it seems that Add-ons Manager no longer allows * as a wild-card in the minimum and maximum version numbers. If I have to do this again 6-8 times a year, forget it! By the way, I did not tweak DOM Inspector. Version 2.0.10pre is not compatible with SM 2.2. Unless someone can convince me I need it or can provide an OFFICIAL version that is compatible, I will delete it by this time next week. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ On occasion, I might filter and ignore all newsgroup messages posted through GoogleGroups via Google's G2/1.0 user agent because of spam from that source. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: SM 2.2 and Extensions
On 7/10/2011 8:34 PM, David E. Ross wrote: I just installed SM 2.2 and found more extensions broken merely by the version number. With four profiles and four broken extensions in each, it took me about an hour to tweak them all. Installing the Extension Compatability Reporter [https://addons.mozilla.org/firefox/addon/add-on-compatibility-reporter/] will actually try hard to keep all the extensions enabled, but you also have the issue that any actual application changes can still cause extensions to break/break-the-app. But it lets you override this stuff without needing to manually change any files. Part of the problem is that Add-ons Manager apparent no longer allows a generic declaration in install.rdf for the application to which the extension can be installed. Instead, a specific declaration is required for each application, which must be identified by a hex code number (92650c4d-4b8e-4d2a-b7eb-24ecf4f6b63a for SeaMonkey). Also, in some cases, it seems that Add-ons Manager no longer allows * as a wild-card in the minimum and maximum version numbers. It allows it (generic declaration) but AMO does not, so most extension authors don't use it. AND if there is an app-specific declaration the Addons Manager uses that and NOT the generic descriptor, Also the auto-bumping code doesn't use that at all. (at least from AMO side) If I have to do this again 6-8 times a year, forget it! We have plans to try and get the auto-compat-bump from firefox implemented for us too, its just a matter of finding human time for someone from the Firefox team to tell us details, and find out where we have to *do* this etc. (do we need to use our machines, can we use theirs, what do they need from us or us from them, etc.) By the way, I did not tweak DOM Inspector. Version 2.0.10pre is not compatible with SM 2.2. Unless someone can convince me I need it or can provide an OFFICIAL version that is compatible, I will delete it by this time next week. Official version is on AMO, and will be ready (approved) probably no later than tomorrow. the one we ship *is* compatible, but unfortunately its not checked as we check against AMO if the internally shipped version is the same (and thats all core code). That said, if you don't use it you can safely uninstall/disable it. -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
