Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-05-12 Thread Jeffrey Needle
On Saturday, May 12, 2018 at 2:59:19 PM UTC-7, WaltS48 wrote:
> On 5/12/18 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>
> >> You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
> >> chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:
> >>
> >> user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
> >> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");
> > 
> > A favor, please.  I see references to Windows in this entry.  I'm using 
> > Linux, and bank with Chase, and have the same problem.  How would this 
> > entry appear in a Linux box?  Many thanks.
> > 
> 
> I would suggest "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
> Firefox/60.0". Since that is the latest Firefox release.
> 

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-05-12 Thread Lee
On 5/12/18, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 5/12/18 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote:
>>>
>>> You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
>>> chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:
>>>
>>> user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
>>> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");
>>
>> A favor, please.  I see references to Windows in this entry.  I'm using
>> Linux, and bank with Chase, and have the same problem.  How would this
>> entry appear in a Linux box?  Many thanks.
>
> I would suggest "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101
> Firefox/60.0". Since that is the latest Firefox release.

Firefox just came out with ESR 52.8 which is a closer match to the
SeaMonkey code base, so I'd suggest pretending you're FF ESR 52 first:
  Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

and if that doesn't work then try 60.0

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-05-12 Thread WaltS48

On 5/12/18 5:32 PM, Jeffrey Needle wrote:





You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows
NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


A favor, please.  I see references to Windows in this entry.  I'm using Linux, 
and bank with Chase, and have the same problem.  How would this entry appear in 
a Linux box?  Many thanks.



I would suggest "Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:60.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/60.0". Since that is the latest Firefox release.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-05-12 Thread Jeffrey Needle
> > 
> > 
> 
> You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
> chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:
> 
> user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");

A favor, please.  I see references to Windows in this entry.  I'm using Linux, 
and bank with Chase, and have the same problem.  How would this entry appear in 
a Linux box?  Many thanks.
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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-02 Thread chokito
My User Agent is "general.useragent.override" "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; 
WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0" and works fine on www.chase.com 
and www.netflix.com with 32-bit and 64-bit versions.
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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-01 Thread EE

cmcadams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit 
and save SM config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? 
I figured that's where I went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.


Use an ordinary text editor, not a word processor.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-01 Thread Ed Mullen

On 4/1/2018 at 1:05 AM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 6:49 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I 
suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being 
valid,

it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit 
and save SM
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured 
that's where I

went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.



The prefs.js file is plain ASCII text.  Unlike Daniel, I prefer always
using Wordpad.  I even set Wordpad as the default appplication for when
I select "Edit" on the context menu for all .js files.


So at least there's no need to worry about that. I can just right-click 
"Open with" and use Notepad or Wordpad depending on size.




If using Wordpad just make sure that you Save As Text. There are other 
formats WP can use that will totally screw up your file.




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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-01 Thread Ed Mullen

On 3/31/2018 at 2:38 PM, cmcadams created this epitome of digital genius:

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of 
digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-01 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote on 01/04/18 15:27:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.


This works, I am duly amazed.

With both Notepad and (after toggling value to null) in Wordpad, no 
problems.


Thank you very much.


Alls well that ends well!! Good to hear!

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-04-01 Thread Ray_Net

Marisa Ciceran wrote on 30-03-18 16:45:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.


This works, I am duly amazed.

With both Notepad and (after toggling value to null) in Wordpad, no problems.

Thank you very much.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 6:49 PM, cmcadams wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit and save 
SM
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured that's 
where I
went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.



The prefs.js file is plain ASCII text.  Unlike Daniel, I prefer always
using Wordpad.  I even set Wordpad as the default appplication for when
I select "Edit" on the context menu for all .js files.


So at least there's no need to worry about that. I can just right-click "Open with" 
and use Notepad or Wordpad depending on size.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

Daniel wrote:

cmcadams wrote on 01/04/18 11:49:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.


Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit and save SM 
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured that's where 
I went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.


In the past, I'm sure I have used Notepad.exe to edit prefs.js ... and, if I had 
double clicked on a prefs.js that was too big for Notepad.exe to handle, Win7 had 
started Wordpad.exe instead!


Neat. It didn't occur to me to try Wordpad. Says how often I've used it. :/

I loaded prefs.js into Wordpad and thought "Omigosh, lookit all the formatting!" Not 
a problem, there's a save option for that. FC-ing the original with the saved copy 
says identical.


Same same for creating user.js ... which had to be located in the same 
directory/folder as prefs.js to be included into prefs.js.


Ha, I must have found the only reference that DIDN'T say to put it in the profile 
directory. That was that problem then.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/31/2018 6:49 PM, cmcadams wrote:
> David E. Ross wrote:
>> On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:
>>> cmcadams wrote:
 Trying a user.js didn't work.

 prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
 DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
 after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.
>>>
>>> If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
>>> it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
>>> the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
>>> format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.
>>>
>>
>> To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
>> successfully, insert
>>  user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
>> as the very first line of user.js and
>>  user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
>> as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
>> that the semicolon (;) is required.
>>
>> Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
>> bar).  You should see
>>  00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
>> if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
>> instead see
>>  00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed
>>
>> This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
>> it) with Firefox.
>>
> 
> Thank you, I've saved this.
> 
> Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit and 
> save SM 
> config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured that's 
> where I 
> went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.
> 

The prefs.js file is plain ASCII text.  Unlike Daniel, I prefer always
using Wordpad.  I even set Wordpad as the default appplication for when
I select "Edit" on the context menu for all .js files.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Daniel

cmcadams wrote on 01/04/18 11:49:

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.


Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit 
and save SM config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? 
I figured that's where I went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.


In the past, I'm sure I have used Notepad.exe to edit prefs.js ... and, 
if I had double clicked on a prefs.js that was too big for Notepad.exe 
to handle, Win7 had started Wordpad.exe instead!


Same same for creating user.js ... which had to be located in the same 
directory/folder as prefs.js to be included into prefs.js.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Daniel

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 31/03/18 23:35:

Sat, 31 Mar 2018 23:45:06 +1100, _Daniel_:

Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, 
the same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so 
that may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!


I'm just suggesting Marisa may better use:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

that is omitting just the SM part of the original string, instead of:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0


which Ed has given initially.


Ah!! Roger that! ;-)

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Daniel

David E. Ross wrote on 01/04/18 02:03:

On 3/31/2018 5:45 AM, Daniel wrote:

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 31/03/18 19:21:

Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0400, _Marisa Ciceran_:

Ed Mullen wrote:


You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:

user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I
figured out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use.
Thank you!


You may wish to use UA string more closely resembling your current
configuration, and one which reports more recent Fx version:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

Note, you could also edit this via the  page, and not
having to deal with hidden configuration files on the file system.


Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, the
same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so that
may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!


Yes, I have encountered a few Web sites that accept a Firefox-only UA
string but reject a Firefox+SeaMonkey string.  That is why I use PrefBar
to switch UA strings, where I have both
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
   and
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.2, NOT Firefox/52.0

Also, in PrefBar, I have a checkbox to toggle "Advertise Firefox
compatibility", for which I usually do not have the check mark
(disabling the feature) and for which my user.js turns off in case I
forget I checked the checkbox.

and, David, I've also seen some, posting here, who have SM first 
followed by FF ... which worked sometimes for them and failed sometimes 
as well!


Seems the UA sniffers are getting pretty complex!! ;-P Boo!!

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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

David E. Ross wrote:

On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid,
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.



To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.



Thank you, I've saved this.

Does anyone know for certain which Windows programs will work to edit and save SM 
config files? And with what settings? Are they ASCII? ANSI? I figured that's where I 
went wrong, trying to edit prefs.js.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/31/2018 11:23 AM, EE wrote:
> cmcadams wrote:
>> Trying a user.js didn't work.
>>
>> prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and 
>> DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because 
>> after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.
> 
> If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid, 
> it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in 
> the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The 
> format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.
> 

To check whether SeaMonkey loaded all of user.js into prefs.js
successfully, insert
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "user.js load failed");
as the very first line of user.js and
user_pref("00_user.js.loaded", "yes");
as the very last line of user.js, all with SeaMonkey not running.  Note
that the semicolon (;) is required.

Then, launch SeaMonkey and enter about:config in the address area (URI
bar).  You should see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  yes
if the entire user.js file was okay.  If there was a problem, you will
instead see
00_user.js.loaded   user set  string  user.js load failed

This also works with Thunderbird and should work (but I have not tested
it) with Firefox.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

EE wrote:

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and DOS Edit, but 
evidently didn't know the right save options, because after running SM the new 
entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid, it will not 
appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in the setting, and also 
settings that are simply not recognized.  The format for entries in user.js is the 
same as that for prefs.js.




I just did a copy and paste. I suspect a wrong format for my user.js.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread cmcadams

WaltS48 wrote:

On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using SM 2.49.2 
on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread EE

cmcadams wrote:

Trying a user.js didn't work.

prefs.js didn't wish to be changed...tried both Windows 7 Notepad and 
DOS Edit, but evidently didn't know the right save options, because 
after running SM the new entry disappeared. Rejected by SM, I suppose.


If an entry into user.js is not recognized by SeaMonkey as being valid, 
it will not appear in about:config.  This includes errors in syntax in 
the setting, and also settings that are simply not recognized.  The 
format for entries in user.js is the same as that for prefs.js.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/31/2018 5:45 AM, Daniel wrote:
> Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 31/03/18 19:21:
>> Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0400, _Marisa Ciceran_:
>>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>>
 You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
 chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:

 user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");
>>>
>>> This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I 
>>> figured out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use. 
>>> Thank you!
>>
>> You may wish to use UA string more closely resembling your current 
>> configuration, and one which reports more recent Fx version:
>>
>> Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
>>
>> Note, you could also edit this via the  page, and not 
>> having to deal with hidden configuration files on the file system.
>>
> Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, the 
> same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so that 
> may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!
> 

Yes, I have encountered a few Web sites that accept a Firefox-only UA
string but reject a Firefox+SeaMonkey string.  That is why I use PrefBar
to switch UA strings, where I have both
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0
  and
Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101
SeaMonkey/2.49.2, NOT Firefox/52.0

Also, in PrefBar, I have a checkbox to toggle "Advertise Firefox
compatibility", for which I usually do not have the check mark
(disabling the feature) and for which my user.js turns off in case I
forget I checked the checkbox.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Lee
On 3/31/18, WaltS48  wrote:
> On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:
>> Ed Mullen wrote:
>>> On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of
>>> digital genius:
 As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account
 using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the
 following page:

 https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/18 10:25 PM, cmcadams wrote:

Ed Mullen wrote:
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of 
digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Sat, 31 Mar 2018 23:45:06 +1100, _Daniel_:

Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, the 
same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so that 
may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!


I'm just suggesting Marisa may better use:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

that is omitting just the SM part of the original string, instead of:

Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 
Firefox/50.0


which Ed has given initially.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Daniel

Stanimir Stamenkov wrote on 31/03/18 19:21:

Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0400, _Marisa Ciceran_:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:


user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I 
figured out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use. 
Thank you!


You may wish to use UA string more closely resembling your current 
configuration, and one which reports more recent Fx version:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

Note, you could also edit this via the  page, and not 
having to deal with hidden configuration files on the file system.


Stanimir, when I look at Marisa's UA String, she *is* showing FF 52, the 
same as you are, but Marisa is also showing her SM after that, so that 
may be the bit that Chase is "seeing" and not supporting!


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User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
SeaMonkey/2.49.1 Build identifier: 20171016030418


User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 
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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Stanimir Stamenkov via support-seamonkey

Fri, 30 Mar 2018 19:51:33 -0400, _Marisa Ciceran_:

Ed Mullen wrote:

You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:


user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 
(Windows NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");


This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I figured 
out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use. Thank you!


You may wish to use UA string more closely resembling your current 
configuration, and one which reports more recent Fx version:


Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:52.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/52.0

Note, you could also edit this via the  page, and not 
having to deal with hidden configuration files on the file system.


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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-31 Thread Hartmut Figge
NoOp:

>https://pasteboard.co/HeoYl92.png

I'm getting the sane with
Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:59.0) Gecko/2018010400 SeaMonkey/2.56a1-h
without advertising FF compatibility.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread NoOp
On 03/30/2018 10:33 PM, NoOp wrote:
> On 03/30/2018 07:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
>> As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
>> SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
>> page:
>> 
>> https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread NoOp
On 03/30/2018 07:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
> SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
> page:
> 
> https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread cmcadams

Ed Mullen wrote:

On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using SM 2.49.2 
on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread Marisa Ciceran

Ed,

This reply is the only one that worked for me - that is, once I figured 
out how to save to DOS in Wordpad that I almost never use. Thank you!


I also appreciate the other suggestions to change my primary bank are 
not viable for me for the simple reason that the Chase branch bank that 
I have been using for 48 years (through it's many predecessor name 
permutations) is less than a minute's walk away from my apartment.


Thanks, all!

Marisa


Ed Mullen wrote:
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of 
digital genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account 
using SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the 
following page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: prefs.js is not for user manipulation (was: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!)

2018-03-30 Thread Felix Miata
Ed Mullen composed on 2018-03-30 11:32 (UTC-0400):

> You simply need to use a different user agent string when going to 
> chase.com.  Add this to your prefs.js:

> user_pref("general.useragent.override.chase.com", "Mozilla/5.0 (Windows 
> NT 10.0; Win64; x64; rv:50.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/50.0");

Never add anything to prefs.js if you're not 200% certain you know what you are
doing and how to undo the damage from a mistake. Either include it in user.js,
or include via about:config. User.js is an optional file that SM will only read,
never write.
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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread EE

Marisa Ciceran wrote:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread David E. Ross
On 3/30/2018 7:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:
> As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
> SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
> page:
> 
> 

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread Ed Mullen
On 3/30/2018 at 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran created this epitome of digital 
genius:
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success

Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread WaltS48

On 3/30/18 10:45 AM, Marisa Ciceran wrote:


I am not about to give up on Seamonkey which I have been using (under 
its prior names) for more than 20 years and which is still the best 
browser-mail suite on the internet. Any suggestions?


Thanks.

Marisa



See all the previous posts about this troublesome bank here.

https://groups.google.com/forum/?fromgroups#!searchin/mozilla.support.seamonkey/Chase;context-place=forum/mozilla.support.seamonkey

If I used SeaMonkey, I'd change banks.

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Re: SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread Frank-Rainer Grahl

> . Any suggestions?

Give up on Chase or use a user agent switcher.

FRG

Marisa Ciceran wrote:

. Any suggestions?

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SM is not accepted by Chase.com - again!

2018-03-30 Thread Marisa Ciceran
As of about a week ago, when I log into my Chase accounts account using 
SM 2.49.2 on my Windows 7 desktop and laptops, it goes to the following 
page:


https://m.chase.com/secure.html?newstoken=false=https%3A%2F%2Fm.chase.com%2Findex.html=success