Re: Tab Groups
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: flyguy wrote: [it appears Phillip's post is missing, so I'll answer here] PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: flyguy wrote: I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows. So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep track? It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser window open... Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the old window connect. Unless for some reason the Web site generate a new window. So you actually don't have many windows open - you just reuse the one you had. You only have one site open at a time. Just like a person with one tab open. True. I not interested in looking at 40-50 items at one time. If I need to go to a another link I just click and it replaces the contents of the window I was looking at it. I rarely if ever need to go back to a previous page. when I am through I hit Home and go to my ISP's home page. To me having a whole lot of stuff open is distracting. You and other may think Tabs are greater than sliced Bread. But I'm not impressed. And who want 57 *tabs* or windows open at onetime doesn't that weigh down the application and slow things down. I would doubt that, given a computer with sufficient power/ram. This old box of mine is a P4 with just 1GB ram and it handles two dozen tabs, about my normal limit of concentration, easily. I currently have 2.8 Ghz Processor and 8 GB Ram with 500GB SATA Hard Drive, so speed and space is not issue. I just hate tabs. One of these days I expect I will have no choice and have to use tabs. but for now, I'm happy with windows only. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: [big snip] So you actually don't have many windows open - you just reuse the one you had. You only have one site open at a time. Just like a person with one tab open. True. I not interested in looking at 40-50 items at one time. If I need to go to a another link I just click and it replaces the contents of the window I was looking at it. I rarely if ever need to go back to a previous page. when I am through I hit Home and go to my ISP's home page. To me having a whole lot of stuff open is distracting. You and other may think Tabs are greater than sliced Bread. But I'm not impressed. So your normal habits are far different than flyguy's, or mine. Seems then that your comments about tabs aren't to be taken as 'advice'. One of these days I expect I will have no choice and have to use tabs. but for now, I'm happy with windows only. As long as you want to have only one web page open at a time, you will never have to change your habits and deal with tabs. -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
So we should all celebrate an environment, where people can work with or without tabs, windows, etc. pp. With bookmarks or address collection. Anybody as (s)he likes. Let's hope, most things stay optional in the future still. :-) BR/Philipp ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Philipp van Hüllen wrote: So we should all celebrate an environment, where people can work with or without tabs, windows, etc. pp. With bookmarks or address collection. Anybody as (s)he likes. Let's hope, most things stay optional in the future still. :-) BR/Philipp If not, somebody will probably come up with a tweak. -- JD.. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: [big snip] So you actually don't have many windows open - you just reuse the one you had. You only have one site open at a time. Just like a person with one tab open. True. I not interested in looking at 40-50 items at one time. If I need to go to a another link I just click and it replaces the contents of the window I was looking at it. I rarely if ever need to go back to a previous page. when I am through I hit Home and go to my ISP's home page. To me having a whole lot of stuff open is distracting. You and other may think Tabs are greater than sliced Bread. But I'm not impressed. So your normal habits are far different than flyguy's, or mine. Seems then that your comments about tabs aren't to be taken as 'advice'. One of these days I expect I will have no choice and have to use tabs. but for now, I'm happy with windows only. As long as you want to have only one web page open at a time, you will never have to change your habits and deal with tabs. Who said it was advice. I was just commenting on the fact not everyone is enamored of using tabs. I read perhaps in this thread several people other than myself don't like tabs. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Philipp van Hüllen wrote: So we should all celebrate an environment, where people can work with or without tabs, windows, etc. pp. With bookmarks or address collection. Anybody as (s)he likes. Let's hope, most things stay optional in the future still. :-) BR/Philipp I too agree. I just fear the day a decision will be made, That they are doing away with windows settings and it will be Tabs only. So far I have yet to get a version other than 2.0.14 to work. 2.2 killed plugins, and extensions 2.1 extensions. 2.3 Can't get my book marks to come over in addition the the other problems. I can import the HTML copy but all personal Bookmarks are gone . Will take months to rebuild them. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
On 8/6/2011 1:27 PM, Ant wrote: On 8/6/2011 11:26 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. Interesting and thanks. So group tabs into tabs. I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
PhillipJones wrote: flyguy wrote: I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows. So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep track? It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser window open... -- -bts -Four wheels carry the body; two wheels move the soul ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: flyguy wrote: I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows. So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep track? It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser window open... Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the old window connect. Unless for some reason the Web site generate a new window. And who want 57 *tabs* or windows open at onetime doesn't that weigh down the application and slow things down. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
On 8/13/2011 9:10 PM, PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: flyguy wrote: I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows. So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep track? It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser window open... Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the old window connect. Unless for some reason the Web site generate a new window. And who want 57 *tabs* or windows open at onetime doesn't that weigh down the application and slow things down. I'm a glider pilot with a weather obsession. The weather window has tabs for airport webcams so I can see the area weather developing miles away; satellite loop for our state; NWS forecasts - daily and weekly; soaring parameter forecasts; and so on. I refer to it at least hourly. The News window has the New York Times open, plus the articles from it that I've clicked on, and the local paper letters and comments section. It's mostly a morning thing, but I might take a break with it in the afternoon. Usually another window is open for product searches, research on political and economic events, etc. And then there is the window for YouTube videos, and other miscellaneous. Doesn't seem to run any differently whether it's 5 or 50 tabs open on my XP, 2 GHz, 4 core Dell with 4 GB of memory. Even the XP, 2 core, 2 GHz, 3 GB dell laptop that I travel with runs almost as well - and that's with two user accounts going. Of course, the email window is always open, with an email tab and a calendar tab. And a couple other applications, too. I'd be buried in windows without tabs, and now I'm so happy the tabs now open next to the originating tab. Seamonkey rocks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
PhillipJones wrote: Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: PhillipJones wrote: flyguy wrote: I love tabs - they are a major reason I switched away from IE years ago. I group my tabs by using another window: weather window (27 tabs), NYT window (5 to 10 tabs, depending on the news an editorials that day), shopping search window (5 to 20 or so), and so on. I don't have the need for any more grouping than that. I'm not a fan of tabs I prefer windows. So you would rather have 37 to 57 (as in flyguy's situation) separate windows open? Each with a button on your taskbar? How would you keep track? It has been weeks, maybe months, since I had more than one browser window open... Actually the way I have 2.0.14 setup each new window content replace the old window connect. Well, then you don't have more than one window open at once, yes? You're just using a single window/instance of the program. Hey, whatever floats your boat but don't tell us you use multiple windows and then tell us you use a single window! Besides, the program allows you to easily NOT use tabs so stop carping about a feature that most love that you happen to hate. It's old news. And it's no impact on you: Just don't use it! Sheesh. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ I want to die in my sleep like my grandfather did, not screaming and yelling like the passengers in his car. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) And *YOU* don't have to use them, as far as I know, Ray!! -- Daniel ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) And *YOU* don't have to use them, as far as I know, Ray!! I agree with you, but this is done by modifying obscure settings ... and i see the day when tabs and group-tabs will be forced to be used. I don't see why developpers spent long times for gadgets instead of fixing the huge amount of bugs. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) Me as well. I prefer separate windows, or window that switch content from one to the other. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Daniel wrote: Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) And *YOU* don't have to use them, as far as I know, Ray!! I'm not sure of that the wise Prophets at Mozilla will fix it so you have no choice but tabs. They will want you to use them whether you like them or not. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Ed Mullen schrieb: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. It has been included in a not yet completely mature state in Firefox 4 and improved since then, but I don't know how something that is included somewhere - and not even very discoverable - became standard in your eyes. Robert kaiser -- Note that any statements of mine - no matter how passionate - are never meant to be offensive but very often as food for thought or possible arguments that we as a community should think about. And most of the time, I even appreciate irony and fun! :) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ How come abbreviated is such a long word? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Robert Kaiser wrote: Ed Mullen schrieb: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. It has been included in a not yet completely mature state in Firefox 4 and improved since then, but I don't know how something that is included somewhere - and not even very discoverable - became standard in your eyes. Robert kaiser Well, it's a feature that ships with the product so, yeah, a standard part of the product. -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ Assphasia- a condition where your face looks so much like your butt your bowels don't know which way to move. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
RE: Tab Groups
Ray_Net wrote: Justin Wood (Callek) wrote: On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) I HATE TABS !!! :-) Me as well. I prefer separate windows, or window that switch content from one to the other. This is a Proper comment about SeaMonkey. leave its alone It refers to the subject Tab Groups coming to SeaMonkey. It better no be taken off again. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
On 8/6/2011 11:26 AM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Ant wrote: On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? http://www.azarask.in/blog/post/tabcandy/ I think it became standard in Firefox 4. Interesting and thanks. So group tabs into tabs. -- The ant has made himself illustrious; Through constant industry industrious.; So what? Would you be calm and placid; If you were full of formic acid? --Ogden Nash (The Ant) /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Tab Groups
Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? -- Ed Mullen http://edmullen.net/ There's only two things that money can't buy and that's true love and home grown tomatoes. - Guy Clark ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? I hope not. -- Phillip M. Jones, C.E.T.If it's Fixed, Don't Break it http://www.phillipmjones.netmailto:pjon...@kimbanet.com ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? Not any time soon, if at all (i.e. no-one's working on porting that behemoth). HTH Jens -- Jens Hatlak http://jens.hatlak.de/ SeaMonkey Trunk Tracker http://smtt.blogspot.com/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: Tab Groups
On 8/5/2011 3:01 PM, Ed Mullen wrote: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? It is a relatively desired feature for me, but it is a LARGE change, with LOTS of moving parts and interactions, so I do not suspect we would see it anytime soon, even if we had two paid developers. (Firefox had a team of many developers working on the feature, before it was shipped in any version; and it had many bugs when it did ship anyway, that are still being squished -- nevermind rough edges that still exist) -- ~Justin Wood (Callek) ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
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On 8/5/2011 12:01 PM PT, Ed Mullen typed: Will Firefox's Tab Groups be coming to SeaMonkey? What does Tab Groups do? -- Where there is sugar, there are bound to be ants. --Malay Proverb /\___/\ Ant @ http://antfarm.ma.cx (Personal Web Site) / /\ /\ \Ant's Quality Foraged Links: http://aqfl.net | |o o| | \ _ /If crediting, then use Ant nickname and AQFL URL/link. ( ) If e-mailing, then axe ANT from its address if needed. Ant is currently not listening to any songs on this computer. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
