Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world: further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol. But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in Seamonkey according to these instructions: http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/ ...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995 that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995 without knowing it.) Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995) didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I never liked Hotmail... i did get ae...@live.com to download mail once or twice into seamonkey, but they want more frequent checkins to their webmail portal apparently... thanks for taking time to poke around MC... i never used to like hotmail... and i've never used it previosly... but thought i'd give the new windowslive features a look see... me no likeee sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean -- A file that big? It might be very useful. But now it is gone. TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... Do you have a Hotmail account that is actually eligible for POP access? I seem to remember that the free accounts were changed, oh a decade ago, to webmail access only -- unless you upgraded to a fee-based account. -- -bts -This space for rent, but the price is high ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my Strawberry. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.7 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... Do you have a Hotmail account that is actually eligible for POP access? I seem to remember that the free accounts were changed, oh a decade ago, to webmail access only -- unless you upgraded to a fee-based account. i was casting about for a new e'mail address and thought i'd see how windows live was working w/in Seamonkey... encouraged by this article dated 2009... http://www.ghacks.net/2009/03/14/hotmail-pop3-configuration/ which says its available to anyone... i've had it work for a few days at a time... but it always begins throwing up errors after three days or so... its no biggie, just wondered if i was the only one scratching my head... sean -- Do not accustom yourself to use big words for little matters. ~ Samuel Johnson TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. i generally dislike imap, but i'll give it a whirl... sean -- You step in the stream... But the water has moved on... This page is not here. TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Glen wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen i also generally dislike having to use addons for things that should work as MS implies here... http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/07/07/an-update-on-ssl-support.aspx but i may relent...or just create a new account from my ISP... sean -- Gee, Toto, I don't think we're in Kansas anymore. ~ Dorothy TagZilla 0.066.2 from http://tagzilla.mozdev.org ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
MCBastos wrote: Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 14:26, sean nathan bean told the world: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... I don't have a Hotmail account, but I have noticed that webmail providers have been quietly allowing IMAP access in order to be usable by smartphone/tablet users. For instance, both Yahoo and Mail.com, which used to allow POP/IMAP access only for premium users, now allow free IMAP -- but sometimes, not POP -- access. So, I would try IMAP before POP. further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... sean ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
sean nathan bean wrote: Glen wrote: sean nathan bean wrote: does anyone have this working in SeaMonkey? these are what Microsoft says should work: pop3.live.com - 995 ssl smtp.live.com - 587 start/tls but it never does... sean sean, why don't you give freepops a try. it's free! http://www.freepops.org i'm using it with the latest SM version in order to access my yahoo accounts. it works perfectly. and although i haven't tried it with hotmail, it does show that there is a plugin for it. here's the plugin for hotmail... http://www.freepops.org/en/viewplugin.php?plugin=hotmail i hope it helps. glen i also generally dislike having to use addons for things that should work as MS implies here... http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_live/b/windowslive/archive/2011/07/07/an-update-on-ssl-support.aspx but i may relent...or just create a new account from my ISP... sean freepops is not an addon to SM, but a separate program that must be run along side SM to access various mail providers. i have it run automatically via the startup folder when windows starts, and i sometimes even forget that it's running. if you are still encountering a problem, i'd check it out and see if may work for you as well. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: hotmail/live imap/pop3 settings?
Interviewed by CNN on 11/02/2012 19:28, sean nathan bean told the world: further google searching reveals hotmail/live doesn't support imap at all... my mistrust of all things google sent me back to microsoft looking for an alternative... only to find, windows mail solutions still suck... c'est la vie... Yeah, I had a look around too. Apparently they are deliberately holding on IMAP in order to push for their proprietary DeltaSync protocol. But I remembered I have an old Hotmail account I no longer use. I checked it -- yeah, it is still active. So I tried to set it up in Seamonkey according to these instructions: http://www.liveside.net/2009/03/13/pop3-technology-has-now-rolled-out-to-hotmail-customers-worldwide/ ...but actually, I just followed the SM new-account wizard and filled in the blanks. Turns out it download the messages with no problems using the default POP3 port 110, with no encryption. (Although that might have been my antivirus, Avast -- there's a gateway to live.com on port 995 that I don't remember setting up, so it might be that it auto-configures these gateways for known services, so I might be using SSL on port 995 without knowing it.) Manually changing the options for Connection Security SSL/TLS (port 995) didn't seem to cause any problems. I also set up SMTP on port 587 (with STARTTLS) and it worked fine, except for a message telling me to log on and do a CAPTCHA -- which I wasn't able to find. Now I remember why I never liked Hotmail... -- MCBastos This message has been protected with the 2ROT13 algorithm. Unauthorized use will be prosecuted under the DMCA. -=-=- ... Sent from my IBM PC-XT. * Added by TagZilla 0.7a1 running on Seamonkey 2.7 * Get it at http://xsidebar.mozdev.org/modifiedmailnews.html#tagzilla ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
