Re: how to control signature display
Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:58:54 -0500, Rob wrote: Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color Thanks, that is the article discussing the problem I have. Unfortunately it only discusses a solution that works per user. What I need is a solution that works per installation. Is there an equivalent for userContent.css that can be copied somewhere in the program directory and that overrides css for all users of that particular installation? The 'dim' effect is produced by a CSS file messageBody.css inside omni.ja. The file omni.ja is in the program directory. Yes I found that, that is how I knew what the attribute is that fouls things up. You may be able to modify messageBody.css to achieve what you need. To open omni.ja, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/About_omni.ja_%28formerly_omni.jar%29 Look inside omni.ja for the file ./chrome/classic/skin/classic/messenger/messageBody.css Unfortunately this packing of the files (omni.ja) makes it much more difficult to do minor tuning. In the past I could have used a simple search-and-replace program like gsar to modify the file after install. Now with omni.ja that kind of thing is much more difficult. However, there is also an omission in the program. Before, I had a search-and-replace in place to add a line like this: pref(general.config.filename, mozilla.cfg); to the default config file. I was unhappy when I found that everything was moved into omni.ja and this had become impossible, but at that time it turned out that the program reads the entire contents of the directory default/pref after startup, and I could put a fresh .js file there after install and it would pickup that line. Now, I think that it should do the same for .css files found in the chrome directory. Then I could just put a custom .css there and all would be OK without having to fiddle with user profiles. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On Sun, 11 Aug 2013 03:46:19 -0500, Rob wrote: Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: The 'dim' effect is produced by a CSS file messageBody.css inside omni.ja. The file omni.ja is in the program directory. Yes I found that, that is how I knew what the attribute is that fouls things up. You may be able to modify messageBody.css to achieve what you need. To open omni.ja, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/About_omni.ja_%28formerly_omni.jar%29 Look inside omni.ja for the file ./chrome/classic/skin/classic/messenger/messageBody.css Unfortunately this packing of the files (omni.ja) makes it much more difficult to do minor tuning. In the past I could have used a simple search-and-replace program like gsar to modify the file after install. Now with omni.ja that kind of thing is much more difficult. However, there is also an omission in the program. Before, I had a search-and-replace in place to add a line like this: pref(general.config.filename, mozilla.cfg); to the default config file. I was unhappy when I found that everything was moved into omni.ja and this had become impossible, but at that time it turned out that the program reads the entire contents of the directory default/pref after startup, and I could put a fresh .js file there after install and it would pickup that line. Now, I think that it should do the same for .css files found in the chrome directory. Then I could just put a custom .css there and all would be OK without having to fiddle with user profiles. I don't have the answer myself. You may find a better option than unpacking and repacking omni.ja, here: http://mike.kaply.com/2013/05/06/dont-unpack-and-repack-omni-jar/ -- Kind regards Ralph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: I don't have the answer myself. You may find a better option than unpacking and repacking omni.ja, here: http://mike.kaply.com/2013/05/06/dont-unpack-and-repack-omni-jar/ Ok I asked him. Let's see. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Trane Francks tr...@gol.com wrote: On 8/10/13 12:57 AM +0900, Rob wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies and forwards. No, this does not happen. I also don't see a UI to control this. Maybe not with HTML mail, but it certainly does in plain text. I tried with David's message and, sure enough, the reply did not contain his signature. But I am discussing HTML mail all the time. We don't use any text mail anymore. For at least a decade. So my message explicitly mentions HTML mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:37:10 -0500, Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. A HTML signature is embedded in a div class=moz-signature for which there is a fixed stylesheet with opacity: 0.5 in the latest versions. So the HTML the user designed is shown dim, including company logo etc. Not good. To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color Thanks, that is the article discussing the problem I have. Unfortunately it only discusses a solution that works per user. What I need is a solution that works per installation. Is there an equivalent for userContent.css that can be copied somewhere in the program directory and that overrides css for all users of that particular installation? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Chris Ilias n...@ilias.ca wrote: On 2013-08-09 5:00 AM, Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. SeaMonkey has always displayed signatures in HTML messages in grey. Maybe you had an extension like quotecolors set to not display signatures in grey. :-/ No, this started only in version 2.19 I noticed it in 2.20 because I did not install 2.19 Please see other subthreads and the MozillaZine article. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On 8/10/13 4:57 PM +0900, Rob wrote: But I am discussing HTML mail all the time. We don't use any text mail anymore. For at least a decade. So my message explicitly mentions HTML mail. Yes, Rob, we know. A tangent was taken to discuss sig stripping and how the grey was used to indicate this. I am well aware that you were discussing HTML and I am well aware that signatures are not stripped from replies or forwards. trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On 8/10/13 4:58 PM +0900, Rob wrote: Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color Thanks, that is the article discussing the problem I have. Unfortunately it only discusses a solution that works per user. What I need is a solution that works per installation. Is there an equivalent for userContent.css that can be copied somewhere in the program directory and that overrides css for all users of that particular installation? I'm fairly certain the answer will be no. That said, it's a relatively simple task to create a script that can be run at user login to check for the existence of the string in the user userContent.css and add it if missing. trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Trane Francks tr...@gol.com wrote: On 8/10/13 4:58 PM +0900, Rob wrote: Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color Thanks, that is the article discussing the problem I have. Unfortunately it only discusses a solution that works per user. What I need is a solution that works per installation. Is there an equivalent for userContent.css that can be copied somewhere in the program directory and that overrides css for all users of that particular installation? I'm fairly certain the answer will be no. That said, it's a relatively simple task to create a script that can be run at user login to check for the existence of the string in the user userContent.css and add it if missing. Sure. But the login script already has become very convoluted due to all the workarounds for problems that are never solved. I prefer solutions that need to be put only in installation scripts for the specific program, not in the script run at every login. It would be reasonable when a solution that is presented per user is also available per installation (like e.g. the solution for extensions/plugins). Maybe the program could read and add all .css files found in the chrome subdirectory in the installation directory before it reads the userContent.css? Like it does for defaults/pref for .js files. Well, we probably won't be installing 2.20 anyway due to other flaws. We appear to be stuck to 2.14.1 because more and more things that are critical to us are being broken. (e.g. IMAP mail, composer) In the Mozillazine article I found a solution that can be included in the signature itself. At least it solves the problem for the display of our signature in other people's mail should they have upgraded. Of course it creates invalid HTML. style is not allowed in body. E.g. roundcubemail does not handle it correctly when composing. But should we ever upgrade, at least the mail sent from today will have the signature displayed correctly in that new version. Maybe that is sufficient. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On Sat, 10 Aug 2013 02:58:54 -0500, Rob wrote: Ralph Fox -rf-nz-@xn--kba.invalid wrote: To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color Thanks, that is the article discussing the problem I have. Unfortunately it only discusses a solution that works per user. What I need is a solution that works per installation. Is there an equivalent for userContent.css that can be copied somewhere in the program directory and that overrides css for all users of that particular installation? The 'dim' effect is produced by a CSS file messageBody.css inside omni.ja. The file omni.ja is in the program directory. You may be able to modify messageBody.css to achieve what you need. To open omni.ja, see https://developer.mozilla.org/en-US/docs/Mozilla/About_omni.ja_%28formerly_omni.jar%29 Look inside omni.ja for the file ./chrome/classic/skin/classic/messenger/messageBody.css -- Kind regards Ralph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
how to control signature display
I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. I looked at about:config and entered sig in the filter line and, like you, could see nothing that might fix your situation. However, I did see a about:config entry for mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator. Maybe if you try changing this to see if it allows what you want. :-) ;-) Or you'll just have to train your work colleagues to *always* reply below the quoted text (Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and select Composition Addressing for the Mail account and then Automatically quote and, from the drop-down, start my reply below ...!) ;-) ;-) -- Daniel User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:21.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/21.0 SeaMonkey/2.18 Build identifier: 20130418192405 or User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:23.0) Gecko/20100101 SeaMonkey/2.20 Build identifier: 20130709211044 ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Daniel:
Rob wrote:
I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in
text msg, as I use.
I am using since a long time
- userContent.css -
.moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature { background-color: #f0f0f0; }
---
Can be used to play with. :)
Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.
I like View-Message Body As-Plain Text. Was there ever a sig? Don't
remember.
Hartmut
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Re: how to control signature display
On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs displayed with the same intensity as normal text. Cheers, trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Trane Francks tr...@gol.com wrote: On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs displayed with the same intensity as normal text. Thanks! ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Daniel d...@albury.nospam.net.au wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That is what I wrote. I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. I looked at about:config and entered sig in the filter line and, like you, could see nothing that might fix your situation. I know about that method and I know that it unfortunately does not return all available prefs. There are hidden prefs. That is why I asked for a hidden pref. However, I did see a about:config entry for mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator. Maybe if you try changing this to see if it allows what you want. It does something related to this matter but not what I need. :-) ;-) Or you'll just have to train your work colleagues to *always* reply below the quoted text (Edit-Mail Newsgroup Account Settings and select Composition Addressing for the Mail account and then Automatically quote and, from the drop-down, start my reply below ...!) ;-) ;-) I am not trying to change how the world mails. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
Daniel:
Rob wrote:
I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in
text msg, as I use.
I am using since a long time
- userContent.css -
.moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature { background-color: #f0f0f0; }
---
Can be used to play with. :)
Do you happen to know what the CSS attribute is that controls this
dim display? It of course is not the background color.
Don't know if it was different in HTML composition.
I like View-Message Body As-Plain Text. Was there ever a sig? Don't
remember.
I am trying to provide mail service in a company where normal
employees work and they like to use HTML mail. I am not going to
get that changed. They also top-reply. It is the standard these
days.
(in fact the company already decided to migrate to Outlook, as that
is the standard in business. Until then I upgrade Seamonkey only
when it fixes serious problems and does not at the same time introduce
new fatal flaws or annoyances. that has been very difficult lately)
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Re: how to control signature display
Rob nom...@example.com wrote:
Hartmut Figge h.fi...@gmx.de wrote:
Daniel:
Rob wrote:
I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and
noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well.
(this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this
has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1)
Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in
text msg, as I use.
I am using since a long time
- userContent.css -
.moz-txt-sig, .moz-signature { background-color: #f0f0f0; }
---
Can be used to play with. :)
Do you happen to know what the CSS attribute is that controls this
dim display? It of course is not the background color.
Ok by looking in omni.ja I already found that it is caused by a
style item opacity: 0.5 that has been added. Unlikely that it
can be controlled via a pref.
I could override it with a userContent.css containing:
/* : signature : */
.moz-txt-sig,
.moz-signature {
opacity: 1.0 !important;
}
this works, but of course it has to be done per profile.
Is there some way of putting that file in the program installation directory
and have it effective for all users?
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Re: how to control signature display
On 8/9/13 2:00 AM, Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies and forwards. -- David E. Ross http://www.rossde.com/ Concerned about someone (e.g., the government) snooping into your E-mail? Use PGP. See my http://www.rossde.com/PGP/ ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: On 8/9/13 2:00 AM, Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies and forwards. No, this does not happen. I also don't see a UI to control this. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Trane Francks wrote: On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs displayed with the same intensity as normal text. Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
I just wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs displayed with the same intensity as normal text. Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes. Sorry, I overlooked the HTML bit above, I withdraw the remark. Dimming the sig in plain-text messages is old. -- War doesn't determine who's right, just who's left. -- Paul B. Gallagher ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. cAN't you just delete the double dash? ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Paul B. Gallagher pau...@pbgdashtranslations.com wrote: Trane Francks wrote: On 8/10/13 6:27 AM +0900, Daniel wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) Rob, as far as I know, the sig file has always shown dim, at least in text msg, as I use. Don't know if it was different in HTML composition. That's definitely a new feature since 2.19. Prior to that, HTML sigs displayed with the same intensity as normal text. Older than that, by at least a year, but I'm not sure how far back it goes. Oviously wrong; it did not work like that in 2.14.1 dated Nov 30, 2012. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. cAN't you just delete the double dash? Yes. That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator pref does. But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only for text signatures. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. cAN't you just delete the double dash? Yes. That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator pref does. But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only for text signatures. I did not notice mention of HTML in the OP's note, but it seems reasonable that an HTML sig would control its own display intensity. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. cAN't you just delete the double dash? Yes. That is what the mail.identity.default.suppress_signature_separator pref does. But that has no influence on the dim display of a HTML signature, only for text signatures. I did not notice mention of HTML in the OP's note, Was my message that unclear? Several people seem to have missed the part HTML mail, and I even explicitly mentioned that it was working that way for text mail long before. but it seems reasonable that an HTML sig would control its own display intensity. But it doesn't. A HTML signature is embedded in a div class=moz-signature for which there is a fixed stylesheet with opacity: 0.5 in the latest versions. So the HTML the user designed is shown dim, including company logo etc. Not good. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On Fri, 09 Aug 2013 14:37:10 -0500, Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: Rick Merrill rick0.merr...@gmail.nospam.com wrote: Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. A HTML signature is embedded in a div class=moz-signature for which there is a fixed stylesheet with opacity: 0.5 in the latest versions. So the HTML the user designed is shown dim, including company logo etc. Not good. To control the signature display, follow the instructions at http://kb.mozillazine.org/Signature_display_color -- Kind regards Ralph ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On 8/10/13 12:57 AM +0900, Rob wrote: David E. Ross nobody@nowhere.invalid wrote: The gray (dim) signature indicates it will be stripped away in replies and forwards. No, this does not happen. I also don't see a UI to control this. Maybe not with HTML mail, but it certainly does in plain text. I tried with David's message and, sure enough, the reply did not contain his signature. Cheers, trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On 2013-08-09 5:00 AM, Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. SeaMonkey has always displayed signatures in HTML messages in grey. Maybe you had an extension like quotecolors set to not display signatures in grey. :-/ In any case, you can use the instructions at http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SigColour. -- Chris Ilias http://ilias.ca Newsgroup moderator ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
Re: how to control signature display
On 8/10/13 6:06 AM +0900, Chris Ilias wrote: On 2013-08-09 5:00 AM, Rob wrote: I installed 2.20 on a system at work where we still use 2.14.1 and noticed that signatures are now displayed dim in HTML mail as well. (this used to be the case only in text mail, but I don't know if this has changed now in 2.20 or in an earlier release after 2.14.1) I see no UI to control this. Is there a hidden preference for it? I want to disable this feature because it does not look good, especially when someone has mistakenly added a message and signature ABOVE a quoted mail. SeaMonkey has always displayed signatures in HTML messages in grey. Maybe you had an extension like quotecolors set to not display signatures in grey. :-/ In any case, you can use the instructions at http://seamonkey.ilias.ca/mailnewsfaq/SigColour. This would seem to be something different, Chris. I use HTML signatures with colours specified in various accounts. Since 2.19, the signatures display in the same colour, but with reduced intensity. Dim, as the OP put it. Personally, I dislike it, but I wouldn't go so far as to call it a bug. Cheers, trane -- / // Trane Franckstr...@gol.comTokyo, Japan // Practice random kindness and senseless acts of beauty. ___ support-seamonkey mailing list support-seamonkey@lists.mozilla.org https://lists.mozilla.org/listinfo/support-seamonkey
