Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/9/2015 3:28 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it
 in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1,
 removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved
 Password Editor 2.8.2 extension.  I then found that my master password
 was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and
 passwords no longer occurred.
 
 Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on password
 input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension.
 
 Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does
 not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the
 username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth
 tests for a bug report yet.
 
 Ciao, Michael.
 

Yes, autocomplete=off is generally ignored only when inputting a new
password.  Then Password Manager will indeed allow the user to save the
password.

My experience, however, is that autocomplete=off is not ignored for
passwords already saved if the user ID and password are entered in
separate Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common.
In that case, the password is not filled in.

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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

2015-02-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little

Ant wrote:


Does anyone know how to do it in old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 to an
old, updated (iOS v8.1.3) iPhone 4S?


Magic? Or maybe channel Steve for insight since you wrote In iOS v8.1.3 
on an iPad Air, Contacts has no import option. So apparently you are 
not supposed to *need* to import things. Again shakes head Don't 
understand the appeal.


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Re: Dial-up internet

2015-02-09 Thread Lee
On 2/9/15, Thee Chicago Wolf [MVP] . wrote:

 It does no magic tricks to make service you're paying for suddenly
 attainable nor does it bring you closer to that speed.

I explain how tcpoptimizer can change WinXP settings so that you can
get the download speed you're paying for and you come back with that.
OK, we're done.

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Re: Exporting and importing *.mab to iOS' contacts?

2015-02-09 Thread Ant

On 1/31/2015 9:55 AM, Ant wrote:


What's the best way to export SM's addressbooks' datas to iOS v8.x's
Contacts locally (no cloud!)?


Depends on what iOS v8.x Contacts and import...but I would assume the
CSV or TSV options would work.


In iOS v8.1.3 on an iPad Air, Contacts has no import option. In a
MacBook Pro with its updated Mac OS X v10.8.5, it has an import option
but it shows encodings (automatic or manually). No specific file type
formats. Maybe raw text file from SM's addressbook exports would work?


Does anyone know how to do it in old, updated Windows XP Pro SP3 to an 
old, updated (iOS v8.1.3) iPhone 4S?

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Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread Michael Ströder
David E. Ross wrote:
 On 2/9/2015 3:28 AM, Michael Ströder wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it
 in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1,
 removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved
 Password Editor 2.8.2 extension.  I then found that my master password
 was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and
 passwords no longer occurred.

 Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on 
 password
 input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension.

 Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does
 not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the
 username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth
 tests for a bug report yet.
 
 Yes, autocomplete=off is generally ignored only when inputting a new
 password.  Then Password Manager will indeed allow the user to save the
 password.

It uses my old password stored before (with Remember Passwords extension).

 My experience, however, is that autocomplete=off is not ignored for
 passwords already saved if the user ID and password are entered in
 separate Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common.
 In that case, the password is not filled in.

You have to dig out the details on what makes the web page separate.

At the moment things work for me.

Ciao, Michael.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little

David E. Ross wrote:


Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common.
In that case, the password is not filled in.


They are common of financial and banking sites, which you really, 
really, really shouldn't save and autofill credentials! A practice that 
is a safe as looking down the barrel to see if a gun is loaded.


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Re: Videos On NBC Don't Work

2015-02-09 Thread WaltS48

On 02/09/2015 03:50 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

EE wrote:


It does not work with SM 2.32.1 or 2.31 or Firefox.  It does work with
Safari.  I use ad blocking with Safari with the same subscriptions as
SeaMonkey, so probably not the problem.



Are you sure? Vids work here with SM 2.32.1 sans ABP.




Vids work here with SM 2.32 and ABP enabled.

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Re: Videos On NBC Don't Work

2015-02-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/09/2015 03:50 PM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

EE wrote:


It does not work with SM 2.32.1 or 2.31 or Firefox.  It does work with
Safari.  I use ad blocking with Safari with the same subscriptions as
SeaMonkey, so probably not the problem.



Are you sure? Vids work here with SM 2.32.1 sans ABP.




Vids work here with SM 2.32 and ABP enabled.



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Re: Unable to open images in Newsgroup SM 2.32.1

2015-02-09 Thread EE

M wrote:

Updated from SM 2.26.1 to  SM 2.32.1 but no longer able to open attached
images within newsgroups.

Under View, I have Message Body set to 'Original HTML' and 'Display
Attachments in Line'

Suggestions appreciated.


Look in Preferences  Mail  Newsgroups  Message Display and uncheck 
Block images and other content from remote sources.


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Re: Videos On NBC Don't Work

2015-02-09 Thread EE

Jonathan N. Little wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Ken wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

On the site http://www.wlbz2.com/, on the right under the Heading
Watch
Now is a small, rotating circle which presumably is where the current
offering of the TV station would appear. But it doesn't.

Am I missing some sort of extension or plug-in? Or some other
feature of
my software?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32.1

Note that various navigation arrows within the site also don't respond.

Any and all suggestions or ideas are very welcome.

Larry S.

What version of Flash are you using?  I had a similar problem and it was
solved by the latest version of Flash.  Version 305 I believe.

Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.305. Just updated very recently.

Thank you for your interest.


Do you have a ad blocker like Adblock Plus. If so, disable it an reload
and I bet the listed features will appear...


Disabling Adblock Plus on that page does not help.

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Re: Videos On NBC Don't Work

2015-02-09 Thread EE

Paul B. Gallagher wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

Ken wrote:

Larry S. wrote:

On the site http://www.wlbz2.com/, on the right under the Heading
Watch
Now is a small, rotating circle which presumably is where the current
offering of the TV station would appear. But it doesn't.

Am I missing some sort of extension or plug-in? Or some other
feature of
my software?

User agent: Mozilla/5.0 (Windows NT 6.1; WOW64; rv:35.0) Gecko/20100101
Firefox/35.0 SeaMonkey/2.32.1

Note that various navigation arrows within the site also don't respond.

Any and all suggestions or ideas are very welcome.

Larry S.

What version of Flash are you using?  I had a similar problem and it was
solved by the latest version of Flash.  Version 305 I believe.

Shockwave Flash 16.0.0.305. Just updated very recently.

Thank you for your interest.


Cranky connection, bad firewall setting, javascript disabled, ad blocker?

Everything works fine here on SM 2.32/Win7 Pro (haven't updated to 2.32.1).

It does not work with SM 2.32.1 or 2.31 or Firefox.  It does work with 
Safari.  I use ad blocking with Safari with the same subscriptions as 
SeaMonkey, so probably not the problem.


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Re: Videos On NBC Don't Work

2015-02-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little

EE wrote:


It does not work with SM 2.32.1 or 2.31 or Firefox.  It does work with
Safari.  I use ad blocking with Safari with the same subscriptions as
SeaMonkey, so probably not the problem.



Are you sure? Vids work here with SM 2.32.1 sans ABP.

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Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread Michael Ströder
David E. Ross wrote:
 Acting on a suggestion in an earlier thread in this newsgroup (or was it
 in the mozilla.general newsgroup?), I installed SeaMonkey 2.32.1,
 removed the Remember Passwords 1.1 extension, and installed the Saved
 Password Editor 2.8.2 extension.  I then found that my master password
 was no longer being requested, and automatic filling in user IDs and
 passwords no longer occurred.

Since recent firefox and seamonkey now ignore the autocomplete=off on password
input fields you can just use SeaMonkey 2.32.1 without such an extension.

Triggering the username/password auto-fill is a bit clumsy though as it does
not always just work. Clicking the password field before double-clicking the
username field seems to always work. Did not have the time to do in-depth
tests for a bug report yet.

Ciao, Michael.

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Re: Unable to open images in Newsgroup SM 2.32.1

2015-02-09 Thread WaltS48

On 02/09/2015 02:07 AM, M wrote:

Updated from SM 2.26.1 to  SM 2.32.1 but no longer able to open attached
images within newsgroups.

Under View, I have Message Body set to 'Original HTML' and 'Display
Attachments in Line'

Suggestions appreciated.



[893776 – No images loading in newsgroups on version 2.19 but does with both 
version 1.16 and 2.17](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893776)

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Re: Retrieving specific arbitrary messages

2015-02-09 Thread Richard Owlett

Daniel wrote:

On 08/02/15 09:48, Richard Owlett wrote:

When defining mail sub-folders, tags AND custom views, I did
a reasonably good job. However, I was not perfect in predicting
future needs.

Is there a tool to extract *EVERYTHING* from a mail folder and
place it in a relational database?

I could be more specific about what I *THINK* I need, but I'm
looking for input from those who have been there, done that ;/

Experimented with Save as Search Folder unsuccessfully.

Looking for ideas more than perfect solutions.

TIA



Richard, how about completely closing SM, going to the location
of your profile and re-naming the errant folder to what you want,
then re-start SM??



CHUCKLE
I do not have an errant folder.
I have changing/amorphous/aberrant/???  needs/wants/wishes/??? .

I'm subscribed to several mailing mailing lists and follow a few 
USENET groups(folder for each). They all deal with Linux 
generally or a specific distribution. I use tags for some broad 
classifications of subject and importance. I need more 
flexibility, thus my request for existing tools copy files to a 
relational database.




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Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread David E. Ross
On 2/9/2015 9:30 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:
 David E. Ross wrote:
 
 Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common.
 In that case, the password is not filled in.
 
 They are common of financial and banking sites, which you really, 
 really, really shouldn't save and autofill credentials! A practice that 
 is a safe as looking down the barrel to see if a gun is loaded.
 

I consider using Password Manager with a non-trivial master password to
be more secure than writing down my passwords or having them in
plain-text files on my computer.

-- 
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I am sticking with SeaMonkey 2.26.1 until saved passwords can
be used when autocomplete=off.  See
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=433238.
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Re: Retrieving specific arbitrary messages

2015-02-09 Thread Daniel

On 09/02/15 23:58, Richard Owlett wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 08/02/15 09:48, Richard Owlett wrote:

When defining mail sub-folders, tags AND custom views, I did
a reasonably good job. However, I was not perfect in predicting
future needs.

Is there a tool to extract *EVERYTHING* from a mail folder and
place it in a relational database?

I could be more specific about what I *THINK* I need, but I'm
looking for input from those who have been there, done that ;/

Experimented with Save as Search Folder unsuccessfully.

Looking for ideas more than perfect solutions.

TIA



Richard, how about completely closing SM, going to the location
of your profile and re-naming the errant folder to what you want,
then re-start SM??



CHUCKLE
I do not have an errant folder.
I have changing/amorphous/aberrant/???  needs/wants/wishes/??? .

I'm subscribed to several mailing mailing lists and follow a few USENET 
groups(folder for each). They all deal with Linux generally or a specific 
distribution. I use tags for some broad
classifications of subject and importance. I need more flexibility, thus my 
request for existing tools copy files to a relational database.


Sorry, Richard, I was just trying to be a bit flippant by my use of the term errant folder, but thought it was a folder you wanted to rename, and I didn't hone in on your use of the term Relational 
Database, which I know nothing about!!


Sorry.

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Re: Unable to open images in Newsgroup SM 2.32.1

2015-02-09 Thread M

EE wrote:

M wrote:

Updated from SM 2.26.1 to  SM 2.32.1 but no longer able to open attached
images within newsgroups.

Under View, I have Message Body set to 'Original HTML' and 'Display
Attachments in Line'

Suggestions appreciated.


Look in Preferences  Mail  Newsgroups  Message Display and uncheck Block images 
and other content from remote sources.


Thanks, evidently a known problem/bug and not related to Preference settings, 
see above.
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Re: Unable to open images in Newsgroup SM 2.32.1

2015-02-09 Thread M

WaltS48 wrote:

On 02/09/2015 02:07 AM, M wrote:

Updated from SM 2.26.1 to  SM 2.32.1 but no longer able to open attached
images within newsgroups.

Under View, I have Message Body set to 'Original HTML' and 'Display
Attachments in Line'

Suggestions appreciated.



[893776 – No images loading in newsgroups on version 2.19 but does with both 
version 1.16 and 2.17](https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=893776)




Thanks, after reading all the comments which mirror my problem it appears the 
problem/bug has been around for several versions but have been unable to 'find' 
a solution.
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From mailbox to database - was [Re: Retrieving specific arbitrary messages]

2015-02-09 Thread Richard Owlett

Daniel wrote:

On 09/02/15 23:58, Richard Owlett wrote:

Daniel wrote:

On 08/02/15 09:48, Richard Owlett wrote:

When defining mail sub-folders, tags AND custom views, I did
a reasonably good job. However, I was not perfect in predicting
future needs.

Is there a tool to extract *EVERYTHING* from a mail folder and
place it in a relational database?

I could be more specific about what I *THINK* I need, but I'm
looking for input from those who have been there, done that ;/

Experimented with Save as Search Folder unsuccessfully.

Looking for ideas more than perfect solutions.

TIA



Richard, how about completely closing SM, going to the location
of your profile and re-naming the errant folder to what you want,
then re-start SM??



CHUCKLE
I do not have an errant folder.
I have changing/amorphous/aberrant/???  needs/wants/wishes/??? .

I'm subscribed to several mailing mailing lists and follow a
few USENET groups(folder for each). They all deal with Linux
generally or a specific distribution. I use tags for some broad
classifications of subject and importance. I need more
flexibility, thus my request for existing tools copy files to a
relational database.


Sorry, Richard, I was just trying to be a bit flippant by my use
of the term errant folder, but thought it was a folder you
wanted to rename, and I didn't hone in on your use of the term
Relational Database, which I know nothing about!!

Sorry.



No harm. No fowl. I've been misread before ;/
I modified the subject line to clarify and hopefully attract more 
replies.

Thanks for your time.



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Re: SeaMonkey and Password Manager

2015-02-09 Thread Jonathan N. Little

David E. Ross wrote:

On 2/9/2015 9:30 AM, Jonathan N. Little wrote:

David E. Ross wrote:


Web pages, a situation that is becoming more and more common.
In that case, the password is not filled in.


They are common of financial and banking sites, which you really,
really, really shouldn't save and autofill credentials! A practice that
is a safe as looking down the barrel to see if a gun is loaded.



I consider using Password Manager with a non-trivial master password to
be more secure than writing down my passwords


Hackers are good but so far not good enough to jump the wire and seek 
out and find your stashed log boot and remotely OCR it...



or having them in
plain-text files on my computer.



Well that IS just plain stupid, Sony might hire you with such a security 
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