Re: [biofuel] Re: Running On Empty
I agree on everything but I don't see the US entering sustainability easily or willingly, especially from those on top reaping most of the profits. The high speed economy is their life blood and most importantly the government's! The US is keeping energy low cost for this very reason. The oil is going to have to run out and the prices to run up before major sustainable progress is to be made, I'm afraid. Of course it will have a large cost in lives and standard of living. I do have a small issue with the share of world resources facts. Those societies that have the most population are breeding out of control. They are starving, can't feed themselves but have enough energy to continue to make babies. You can't blame this on ignorance because hunger cannot be ignored. Therefore, these breeders can trump everyone else because they have the most people! Knowing this, these facts just do not make me feel guilty. The blame has to be shared. Lillie Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] RE: Glycerine Separation
Todd: I went back to JTF to find that I missed the picture of glycerine separation with phosphoric acid. I know now what the glycerine layer should look like. BUT, I still have a question. I got the ffa's and glycerine to separate but I did not get any precipitation. Why is that? Have you encountered a similar result? Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: Tan To: Biofuel Subject: Glycerine Separation Date: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:09 PM Hi! Can anyone describe the color of the glycerine-methanol layer after treatment with phosphoric acid? According to JTF, it's sherry colored. Could you elaborate more? Is that dark sherry or yellow sherry? Thanks, Chris Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] RE: Vacuum Pump for Condenser
Can anyone give me an opinion about this? Would a vacuum pump from a car (the vacuum pump attached to the alternator and the breaks' master cylinder) do for alcohol recovery? Thanks, Chris Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel
Yes Michael, We do. While you might not need or want to wash, we don't have the luxury of risking any increase in frequency of any automotive repairs by burning any fuel that is of lesser grade than possible. Nor can we afford to pass off fuel that could achieve the same negative result for any locals who might use it. Detergents in gasoline or petroleum diesel? Maybe. Sodium or postassium soaps in biodiesel? Not. A can of HEET in the tank every once in awhile to resolve a water issue? Maybe. A dose of methanol to hoses and seals with every inch on the odometer? Not. And certainly there isn't any benefit to leaving carmelizing glycerin floating freely in a fuel and headed for an injector. I think it best be left to the petro-chemical distillaries to leave varnishes, paraffins and the like in their fuel and serve it up as champagne to the unsuspecting. As for any premise of no problems 'til now? You might take note that nothing is ever broken until it breaks. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: michael meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel do you really need to wash biodiesel? i've been running a 50/50 biodiesel/petro diesel for a few months so far and my dodge cummins runs great on it. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Kevin, Yes. You can speed up the process considerably. It involves the following: . 1) Throw out your mist washer. 2) Box up your bubble washer. 3) Make absolutely sure that you never try to wash an incomplete reaction by testing washing a 1 ounce sample in a sealed jar. 4) Use a motor driven impeller to mix the water/fuel mixture to the point of appearing homogenous for ~5 minutes. 5) Let settle 1 hour. 6) Syphon off the top layer of fuel and repeat steps 5, 6 7 two more cycles. 7) Let the fuel air dry or heat to 120*F to dry. 8) Combine all your wash waters and the 1-2 of fuel that was left on top after each syphoning in a collection tank. 9) Let settle 24 hours. 10) Remove lower water layer to a wastewater treatment tank to recover the soaps. 11) Return the accumulated fuel from the wash water residue to your first wash of your next batch. Depending upon the volume of oil in your batch, the hp/size of your reactor tank and wash tank motors/impellers, you could get your entire batch process time down to 24 hours. Most people avoid mechanical mixing of the fuel at the wash stages, thinking that it will create emulsion problems. And they're right if they try to wash fuel from incomplete reactions. That's the primary reason why they were invented and have achieved such wide acceptance - too many people aren't meticulous about making sure that their reactions are complete. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Hello, Is there a way to speed-up the water-biodiesel wash during the settling of washing the fuel? I've read the bubble washing techniques understand it, but for the best quality of biodiesel, it can take up-to-a-week, with several washes. One person mentioned a centrifuge, which I never used know nothing about that equipment. I imagine it to be a very expensive machine, takes up a large amount of space, and may not be available to the average homebrewer. Could vibration assist in aiding water to help filter water to shake past the biodiesel to the bottom water level in a shorter amount of time? Has anyone tried to experiment using vibration? Also, -In order to understand the process better, does anyone have a mpeg simulation illustrating the (Molecular model) cleansing of biodiesel in the wash stage process or something similar? I am curious to see the what exactly is happening in the batch? While I'm at it, how about a simulation of the transesterification process in a mpeg? Anyone? Thank you, Kevin Shea [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe
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Question, is anyone driving GMC trucks with WVO. I have a Sierra K2500 6.5 L Diesel and am wondering if anyone else is out there driving the same. Please advise, thanks, Greg 150,000 Magines in English and German in 2004! Harper Street Publishing Box 988 Dawson City, Yukon Y0B 1G0 Toll Free: 1-888-848-6671 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AlaskaYukon.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] diesel generator
is their generators in the 2-5000 watt range that can run off of biodiesel or straight Vegatable oil and if so where can i buy one used. Sam Boyer __ Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs http://hotjobs.sweepstakes.yahoo.com/careermakeover Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] High Standards
It is posts like that made by Todd concerning the washing of biodiesel in order to achieve the highest possible quality product that makes me very happy to have found this forum and sites like journeytoforever.org. To see that those who have gone on before hold a high standard is indeed comforting and faith-inspiring, knowing that the information that we newbies are getting is the culmination of a culmulative effort by many who unselfishly share their experience to the benefit of all. Just had to say thanks. Luc Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#
Thanks Here is my current dilemma: I am seeking to buy biodiesel, either B20 or B100 that I can mix myself. I am not in the best situation right now that would allow me the chance to brew my own. So I am looking for a distributor to supply me. Now, I live in the NY city area, THE largest Metropolitan area in the world, yet there are ZERO distributors here, the closest is New Haven, Connecticutt, and Bridgeton, NJ, 2 hours drive eiher way. I want so much to become part of the biodiesel solution that I want to try to become a distributor here in NY, and maybe get in on the ground floor. I do have some capital to invest. but just need more info on how to do it. I am banking on the hope that biodiesel will be the wave of the future, as a government mandated supplement to petro diesel. Good Luck to us all! - Original Message - From: To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *# Dear B.D., The parking lot is a great idea. I hope we a a few landlords/entrepreneurs on the list put it to use. Perhaps the charge could be done for free during certain hours to be competitive with parking lots not supplying the service. Maybe commuter parking lots could charge for free to induce multi-modal commuters to participate in such programs or to buy the cars in the first instance. Keep up the good thinking. Regards, Wendell Busyditch wrote: Ideally, one should be able to charge their battery using a biofuel powered genset. Not a reality for most, but imagine someone setting up an urban regeneration station/parking lot to charge your vehicle overnight using such a generator. The ideas are boundless, just enough inspiration to make them work. busyditch - Original Message - From: Michael To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car I hope everyone realizes that the energy comes from a dirty power plant, and then loses energy traveling down the power lines, to their plug, and then loses energy in the rectifier, and in charging the batteries, and in discharging the batteries.Very Respectfully, Michael http://www.RecoveryByDiscovery.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] --- Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, Give Me a Break
Must be something about the electronic media that permits liars, cheats and frauds to rain desception on their audiences and not only get away with it, but get elevated to the status of co-host and receive an international book deal. Print media tends to be a bit more antiquated, what with terminations and resignations whent the same thing happens in their venue. After all... Why Do You Think They Call It Programming? Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:29 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, Give Me a Break Hello Ryan Wow, have any of you read his book? Has anyone on the list read it? He has valid points, especially when it comes to risk aversion and the means we go to to save ourselves from miniscule threats. His whole point is that the number one factor that decides how long we will live is whether or not we live in poverty, and makes a great case for how capitalism saves those who participate from poverty. He talks about how government is getting too big in this country, about how much money that gets wasted as they fail time after time after time. He talks about how the private sector can do such a better job than the public sector of saving ourselves from ourselves. He even talks about ADM and their success in squashing competition by using government subsidies on ethanol. I encourage you to give it a read, it may be eye opening, totally changed my view on Nader too. :-) In which direction? ... a fear-monger who screamed about everything maybe? Now, what was it I said about young master Stossel? Stossel's a liar and a cheat, just another industry front-man, close links with the usual suspects, no integrity. That's about right. First though, since you've read the book, how do you think Stossel would react to Peter Montague's two-part article on the Precautionary Principle that I just posted the second part of? http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/34034/ So, where to start? There's many megabytes of record on Stossel's lying. Start with the book I suppose. Stossel threw a launch party for the book - or rather Reason Magazine did. They're old friends, Stossel and Reason Magazine. Reason is a libertarian magazine published by the Reason Foundation. A favourite guest of Stossel's is science writer Michael Fumento, well-known for circulating misleading tobacco propaganda. He's worked for the Competitive Enterprise Institute and Consumer Alert, and Reason Magazine - all recipients of tobacco funding (especially from Phillip Morris), and he's now a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute, which also receives tobacco funding, among other things - more on them later. Check out the Reason Foundation's funding: http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Reason_Foundation And the Competitive Enterprise Institute, while we're at it - there's a lot about them in the archives too, Biofuel list members have had serious run-ins with the CEI in the past, NOT friends of biofuels! http://www.disinfopedia.org/wiki.phtml?title=Competitive_Enterprise_Institute Note this bit (and see below, Case 1): CEI has also worked to cultivate a relationship with John Stossel, the controversial correspondent for ABC-TV's 20/20 program. When Stossel came under fire in August 2000 for citing nonexistent scientific studies on a 20/20 segment bashing organic foods, CEI set up a Save John Stossel website to help him keep his job. Stossel returned the favor... Anyway, Greg Goldin wrote a piece on the book launch for LA Weekly: http://www.laweekly.com/ink/04/11/a.php Stossel's Choirboys Stossel objected in a letter to the LA Weekly, denying a quote attributed to him, and rather strangely objecting to little else Goldin had said. This was the quote, quite well-known: Years ago, when he quit exposing consumer rip-offs, he told a Federalist Society audience, 'I got sick of it. I also now make so much money, I just lost interest in saving a buck on a can of peas.' Here's Stossel's objection, and Goldin's reply: http://laweekly.com/ink/04/14/letters.php Selective Memory Did he say it or not? For this and more, see what Russell Mokhiber and Robert Weissman have to say about it - editor of the Corporate Crime Reporter and editor of the Multinational Monitor, respectively: http://lists.essential.org/pipermail/corp-focus/2004/000177.html No big deal? Maybe not, but read what Mokhiber and Weissman say before you decide. ... the reporter in question has a network television show that influences millions of Americans on the issue he cares about deeply -- protecting and preserving corporate power in America. And he has a book on the New York Times bestseller list defending his thesis. And he questions whether he said what we said he said. So, hear us out. Two other cases (there are plenty more!). 1. The Food
Re: [biofuel] Re: Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel
on 5/2/04 3:08 PM, Keith Addison at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken doesn't seem to be looking for easier washing though, quicker maybe, and doesn't see it as getting round a completion problem: ... there's practically no alkali, no soap, and no alcohol left in it. Fair enough. Is that with ethyl esters Ken? Yeah, that's an alcohol mix of 6:1 ethanol:methanol. I use 13g KOH per liter oil, plus whatever is needed for FFA neutralization, so washing out the alkali before bubbling is real important. Before I started the glyc/water wash step, it was a real problem avoiding mayonnaise in the bubble wash. Todd's absolutely correct, tho, about the disadvantage -- if you want to recover alcohol, you have to deal with the water in the glyc. phase, typically by using a fractionating column. It all works for me, but my conditions are real different with the ethanol. Come to think of it, I guess I DO know why more people don't do it :-) .. -K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel
Todd, I forgot to add that I first filter through an automotive oil filter, then through a 3 micron oil filter this is after allowing the biodiesel to settle in a 55 gal barrel for a couple days. if you dot think this is adequate what is the best way to wash? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Yes Michael, We do. While you might not need or want to wash, we don't have the luxury of risking any increase in frequency of any automotive repairs by burning any fuel that is of lesser grade than possible. Nor can we afford to pass off fuel that could achieve the same negative result for any locals who might use it. Detergents in gasoline or petroleum diesel? Maybe. Sodium or postassium soaps in biodiesel? Not. A can of HEET in the tank every once in awhile to resolve a water issue? Maybe. A dose of methanol to hoses and seals with every inch on the odometer? Not. And certainly there isn't any benefit to leaving carmelizing glycerin floating freely in a fuel and headed for an injector. I think it best be left to the petro-chemical distillaries to leave varnishes, paraffins and the like in their fuel and serve it up as champagne to the unsuspecting. As for any premise of no problems 'til now? You might take note that nothing is ever broken until it breaks. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: michael meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel do you really need to wash biodiesel? i've been running a 50/50 biodiesel/petro diesel for a few months so far and my dodge cummins runs great on it. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Kevin, Yes. You can speed up the process considerably. It involves the following: . 1) Throw out your mist washer. 2) Box up your bubble washer. 3) Make absolutely sure that you never try to wash an incomplete reaction by testing washing a 1 ounce sample in a sealed jar. 4) Use a motor driven impeller to mix the water/fuel mixture to the point of appearing homogenous for ~5 minutes. 5) Let settle 1 hour. 6) Syphon off the top layer of fuel and repeat steps 5, 6 7 two more cycles. 7) Let the fuel air dry or heat to 120*F to dry. 8) Combine all your wash waters and the 1-2 of fuel that was left on top after each syphoning in a collection tank. 9) Let settle 24 hours. 10) Remove lower water layer to a wastewater treatment tank to recover the soaps. 11) Return the accumulated fuel from the wash water residue to your first wash of your next batch. Depending upon the volume of oil in your batch, the hp/size of your reactor tank and wash tank motors/impellers, you could get your entire batch process time down to 24 hours. Most people avoid mechanical mixing of the fuel at the wash stages, thinking that it will create emulsion problems. And they're right if they try to wash fuel from incomplete reactions. That's the primary reason why they were invented and have achieved such wide acceptance - too many people aren't meticulous about making sure that their reactions are complete. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Hello, Is there a way to speed-up the water-biodiesel wash during the settling of washing the fuel? I've read the bubble washing techniques understand it, but for the best quality of biodiesel, it can take up-to-a-week, with several washes. One person mentioned a centrifuge, which I never used know nothing about that equipment. I imagine it to be a very expensive machine, takes up a large amount of space, and may not be available to the average homebrewer. Could vibration assist in aiding water to help filter water to shake past the biodiesel to the bottom water level in a shorter amount of time? Has anyone tried to experiment using vibration? Also, -In order to understand the process better, does anyone have a mpeg simulation illustrating the (Molecular model) cleansing of biodiesel in the wash stage process or something similar? I am curious to see the what exactly is happening in the batch? While I'm at it, how about a simulation of the
[biofuel] Study: Shoppers Deserting Supermarkets
With Apologies to Mr. Dreyfuss for quoting the whole thing, but AP does a poor job through yahoo of archiving articles, and I don't want this to be deleted after a few weeks, which is their wont. Some interesting introductory thinking to how American consumers are presently seeing the motor fuel-vs.-food-purchase equations. MM http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=509ncid=718e=5u=/ap/20040502/ap_on_bi_ge/cheaper_shoppers Study: Shoppers Deserting Supermarkets Sun May 2, 7:06 PM ET Add Business - AP to My Yahoo! By IRA DREYFUSS, Associated Press Writer CHICAGO - For financially pressed consumers, it's coming down to a choice between spending on gasoline or groceries, and gasoline is winning, a food industry analysis finds. Given the economic environment, it is not surprising that more shoppers are buying food today in discount stores and other low-price venues than ever before, said the report by the Food Marketing Institute, released at the organization's annual trade show in Chicago. High oil prices, both at the pump and for home heating, depress consumers' ability to spend more, the study said. Gasoline prices have been soaring: about 35 cents a gallon since December, driven by surging crude oil prices, according to gasoline industry analyst Trilby Lundberg. The food industry report said the fuel price increases are tightening the pressure on personal budgets that already were squeezed hard by credit card bills. In 2003, for the second consecutive year, we detected among consumers that minus inflation, minus inflation, they are managing to buy their groceries for less than they did last year, Michael Sansolo, FMI's senior vice president, told the group's opening conference Sunday. Consumers feel the financial pain and are acting to ease it by finding cheaper places to spend on food, said the FMI report, citing a survey commissioned by the trade group. The survey of more than 500 people telephoned randomly in January had a margin of error of 4.5 percentage points. As a result, supermarkets are losing their hold on their customers, who can go to other retailers such as discount stores, the survey said. The proportion of respondents who said a supermarket was their primary food store fell by 5 percentage points since a year earlier, to 72 percent. The share of shoppers who considered a discount store their first choice rose by 4 percentage points, to 21 percent. The report also said shoppers are finding other ways to be more careful in their spending. More shoppers said they were comparison shopping, looking in newspapers for sales,using coupons and rebates, stocking up on bargains even if they don't need the items right away, and buying only what was on their grocery lists. More shoppers also were keeping grocery lists, the survey found. For all that work, however, the average grocery bills that the survey respondents reported showed little change. The average weekly bill fell $1, to $90, from January of 2003. Working against the desire to save money was the desire to save time, something else that modern America has all too little of. The survey showed an increase in purchases of precooked foods, which cost more than the ingredients for from-scratch meals. The trend toward timesaving convenience foods from precooked pasta to cereal bars continues, the report said. ___ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel]
Yes they are. I've converted a 6.2, and have two friends with conversions on the Chevy/GM diesel - another 6.2 and a 6.5. You'll want to go two-tank, and heat and filter the oil well, since the Stanadyne pumps can't handle overly viscous fuel and/or dirty fuel. Craig http://www.biofuels.ca On May 2, 2004, at 5:23 PM, Greg Karais wrote: Question, is anyone driving GMC trucks with WVO.Ê I have a Sierra K2500 6.5 L Diesel and am wondering if anyone else is out there driving the same. Please advise, thanks, Greg 150,000 Magines in English and German in 2004! Harper Street Publishing Box 988 Dawson City, Yukon Y0B 1G0 Toll Free: 1-888-848-6671 Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.AlaskaYukon.com [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Distillation
Hello, I have distilled biodiesel in laboratory and industrially. I follow the laboratory test under vacuum, aprox. 1 mbar abs. pressure, with a good result. The product was water clear. Industrially I scaled up the laboratory test with an evaporator, with a little residence time, with a great success. This biodiesel is a good raw matter for other industrial applications (non fuel); for fuel use of biodiesel is not necessary distil methyl esteres. Rodolfo - Original Message - From: Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 10:40 PM Subject: [biofuel] Distillation Hi,... How can i get more info about industrial distillation processes of biodiesel?? Best regards Anderson Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *#
If you are able to follow through on this, or even if you are not able to do so, and find that it just takes the fire out of you, I for one will be extremely interested to read of your efforts, or of any further info you can pass on to us, about the NYC area. I am acquainted with the guy who runs NYCE wheels, the 2-wheeler EV seller on the upper east side. But that's just an EV issue, not a biofuel issue. A couple of years ago I was in NYC and asked about the grocery store situation. I realized that I never seemed to see large chain stores as I am accustomed to elsehwere. I was told that, basically, the local stores had a strong push and were able to keep the area different from the chain-store-ization of elsewhere. I am not saying good or bad, I was just sort of wondering, and that's what I was told... as I kept in mind the amounts of food going into the city every day, and the amounts of waste exiting. There was a news story or two, a few years ago, about the issue of some restauraunt waste grease, that might otherwise have been turned into fuel, being put illegally into the sewer systems, and causing damage. Apparently this was happening in a certain Chinese restaurant area more than in others? I have not heard any further discussion of this. Manhattan is such a different area from others that I have been to, that I cannot begin to really understand it. I never seem to see gas stations, yet there must be some, because there are certainly enough cars and taxis. I think this is merely my perception, that I don't see any. But at the same time, I'm guessing that it's highly regulated and that this is part of the reason for the lack of inroads by folks trying to do something different. After 9-11, I expected NYC people, of anyone, to make a connection between the issue of changing the sourcing of their fuel and fighting the war, or at least fighting whatever fight any individual citizen wanted, as far as his own personal views went. We've heard virtually nothing, though, from NYC, outside of one or two private comments I've heard about some EVs for some city program(s). Haven't really heard much to back up those comments even. It's just astonishing to me that not a single person from the NYC fourth estate has said anything (within hearing range of many of the rest of us) to make an issue of fuel sourcing available to NYC citizens. On Sun, 2 May 2004 21:29:42 -0400, you wrote: Thanks Here is my current dilemma: I am seeking to buy biodiesel, either B20 or B100 that I can mix myself. I am not in the best situation right now that would allow me the chance to brew my own. So I am looking for a distributor to supply me. Now, I live in the NY city area, THE largest Metropolitan area in the world, yet there are ZERO distributors here, the closest is New Haven, Connecticutt, and Bridgeton, NJ, 2 hours drive eiher way. I want so much to become part of the biodiesel solution that I want to try to become a distributor here in NY, and maybe get in on the ground floor. I do have some capital to invest. but just need more info on how to do it. I am banking on the hope that biodiesel will be the wave of the future, as a government mandated supplement to petro diesel. Good Luck to us all! - Original Message - From: To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 2:41 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car *# Dear B.D., The parking lot is a great idea. I hope we a a few landlords/entrepreneurs on the list put it to use. Perhaps the charge could be done for free during certain hours to be competitive with parking lots not supplying the service. Maybe commuter parking lots could charge for free to induce multi-modal commuters to participate in such programs or to buy the cars in the first instance. Keep up the good thinking. Regards, Wendell Busyditch wrote: Ideally, one should be able to charge their battery using a biofuel powered genset. Not a reality for most, but imagine someone setting up an urban regeneration station/parking lot to charge your vehicle overnight using such a generator. The ideas are boundless, just enough inspiration to make them work. busyditch - Original Message - From: Michael To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 22, 2004 12:56 AM Subject: [biofuel] Using Prius as an electric car I hope everyone realizes that the energy comes from a dirty power plant, and then loses energy traveling down the power lines, to their plug, and then loses energy in the rectifier, and in charging the batteries, and in discharging the batteries.Very Respectfully, Michael http://www.RecoveryByDiscovery.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list
[biofuel] New Mexico Officials to Test Use of Waste Wood to Run Power Plants
http://news.tradingcharts.com/futures/6/6/54988966.html ZUNI, N.M., Apr 19, 2004 (Albuquerque Journal - Knight Ridder/Tribune Business News via COMTEX) -- Soaring natural gas and propane prices have stoked a fire under state and private developers who see wood and wood byproducts as an energy source for the future, especially for rural areas. Federal and state officials have teamed up with private companies to test a little power plant, about the size of a car, that uses forest thinnings and wood scraps to generate electricity and heat. The idea is to develop a commercial way to provide energy in rural areas where propane and electricity costs are high but wood is plentiful, said Robb Walt, president of Community Power Corp. The Littleton, Colo., company has partnered with the U.S. Department of Agriculture's Forest Products Laboratory, and the U.S. Department of Energy's National Renewable Energy Laboratory to test its BioMax 15 wood-burning generator at two locations in New Mexico. Zuni Furniture Enterprises, a 10-employee furniture factory on the Zuni reservation south of Gallup, has been testing a BioMax unit since October. The other unit is at SBS Woodshavings, in Glencoe, which uses wood cleared from forests to produce animal bedding. [etc.] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] OT: Food for thought, John Stossel's New Book, Give Me a Break
Well, I for one are not surprise with anyone's reactions. But I will say this: One of my jobs is life is to be a bean counter in one of the local Corporations here around town. And from my job I KNOW where all the money disappears to. Why the high prices consumers pay down to the seemingly miniscule wages the employees get. I'll give you a hint. It ain't going where everybody thinks it does. sigh Curtis Dazzle Mom this coming Mother's Day season with flowers! http://www.flowerson55.com - Original Message - From: Ryan Morgan [EMAIL PROTECTED] Really, whay do you say that? Did you read his book? Frankly, I'm a little bit surprised by your reaction, Keith. Cheers, Ryan -Original Message- From: Keith Addison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Stossel's a liar and a cheat, just another industry front-man, close links with the usual suspects, no integrity. Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel
Michael, Settling doesn't solve the soap/catalyst/glycerin/alcohol contaminants issue. Best way to wash? The simplest we've found is mechanical agitation with motor and impeller. No compressors. No pumps. No plumbing. Quick and efficient. Easily up- or down-sized. Also, we're more inclined to use a 3:2 ratio of fuel to water, with a fourth wash instead of just three, as water can only absorb so many contaminants per given volume. An visual is trying to wash out a dish soap bottle. Six 1/4 cup washes accomplish nearly as much as six bottles filled with water. A water recycling system is being prepared, which is nothing more than moving the waste water up consecutively from 4th wash to 3rd, 3rd to 2nd, 2nd to 1st, then 1st to the waste water treatment stage. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: michael meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Todd, I forgot to add that I first filter through an automotive oil filter, then through a 3 micron oil filter this is after allowing the biodiesel to settle in a 55 gal barrel for a couple days. if you dot think this is adequate what is the best way to wash? - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Yes Michael, We do. While you might not need or want to wash, we don't have the luxury of risking any increase in frequency of any automotive repairs by burning any fuel that is of lesser grade than possible. Nor can we afford to pass off fuel that could achieve the same negative result for any locals who might use it. Detergents in gasoline or petroleum diesel? Maybe. Sodium or postassium soaps in biodiesel? Not. A can of HEET in the tank every once in awhile to resolve a water issue? Maybe. A dose of methanol to hoses and seals with every inch on the odometer? Not. And certainly there isn't any benefit to leaving carmelizing glycerin floating freely in a fuel and headed for an injector. I think it best be left to the petro-chemical distillaries to leave varnishes, paraffins and the like in their fuel and serve it up as champagne to the unsuspecting. As for any premise of no problems 'til now? You might take note that nothing is ever broken until it breaks. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: michael meeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel do you really need to wash biodiesel? i've been running a 50/50 biodiesel/petro diesel for a few months so far and my dodge cummins runs great on it. - Original Message - From: Appal Energy To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 9:13 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Kevin, Yes. You can speed up the process considerably. It involves the following: . 1) Throw out your mist washer. 2) Box up your bubble washer. 3) Make absolutely sure that you never try to wash an incomplete reaction by testing washing a 1 ounce sample in a sealed jar. 4) Use a motor driven impeller to mix the water/fuel mixture to the point of appearing homogenous for ~5 minutes. 5) Let settle 1 hour. 6) Syphon off the top layer of fuel and repeat steps 5, 6 7 two more cycles. 7) Let the fuel air dry or heat to 120*F to dry. 8) Combine all your wash waters and the 1-2 of fuel that was left on top after each syphoning in a collection tank. 9) Let settle 24 hours. 10) Remove lower water layer to a wastewater treatment tank to recover the soaps. 11) Return the accumulated fuel from the wash water residue to your first wash of your next batch. Depending upon the volume of oil in your batch, the hp/size of your reactor tank and wash tank motors/impellers, you could get your entire batch process time down to 24 hours. Most people avoid mechanical mixing of the fuel at the wash stages, thinking that it will create emulsion problems. And they're right if they try to wash fuel from incomplete reactions. That's the primary reason why they were invented and have achieved such wide acceptance - too many people aren't meticulous about making sure that their reactions are complete. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Kevin Shea [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, May 01, 2004 10:43 PM Subject: [biofuel] Questions Speed-up washing biodiesel Hello,
Re: [biofuel] RE: Glycerine Separation
Chris, Never. Don't see how it can happen as the acid is what cleaves the metal (sodium or potassium) molecule from the soap and liberates the FFAs. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Tan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 02, 2004 4:12 PM Subject: [biofuel] RE: Glycerine Separation Todd: I went back to JTF to find that I missed the picture of glycerine separation with phosphoric acid. I know now what the glycerine layer should look like. BUT, I still have a question. I got the ffa's and glycerine to separate but I did not get any precipitation. Why is that? Have you encountered a similar result? Thanks, Chris - Original Message - From: Tan To: Biofuel Subject: Glycerine Separation Date: Thursday, April 29, 2004 5:09 PM Hi! Can anyone describe the color of the glycerine-methanol layer after treatment with phosphoric acid? According to JTF, it's sherry colored. Could you elaborate more? Is that dark sherry or yellow sherry? Thanks, Chris Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: High Standards
Let me echo the thanks of Luc. Without those who have been willing to share their experience and knowledge, I wouldn't have a clue beyond what is available in Fryer to Fuel Tank. I've found that that was a good start, but leaves a lot out and gives some misinformation in what it puts in. So, once again, thanks Todd, Mark, Keith and all the others whose names don't immediately come to mind. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, biobenz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It is posts like that made by Todd concerning the washing of biodiesel in order to achieve the highest possible quality product that makes me very happy to have found this forum and sites like journeytoforever.org. To see that those who have gone on before hold a high standard is indeed comforting and faith-inspiring, knowing that the information that we newbies are getting is the culmination of a culmulative effort by many who unselfishly share their experience to the benefit of all. Just had to say thanks. Luc Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] RE: Vacuum Pump for Condenser
Tan wrote: Can anyone give me an opinion about this? Would a vacuum pump from a car (the vacuum pump attached to the alternator and the breaks' master cylinder) do for alcohol recovery? Most cars use engine vacuum to run the power brakes. I have seen vacuum pumps on diesel powered vehicles, but these are not that common in the junkyards around here. As for alcohol recovery, I've never done this, so I can't comment. Since this is the second time you've posted this message, I figured somebody should say SOMETHING about it. Have you checked the biodiesel resource pages at Journey to Forever? robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.1stbooks.com/bookview/9782 Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Saudi Power Play
http://tompaine.com/feature2.cfm/ID/10326 Saudi Power Play Marshall Auerback is an international portfolio strategist for David W. Tice Associates, a U.S. money management firm with approximately $1 billion in assets. His weekly International Perspective can be seen at PrudentBear.com When we first got here, we tried making friends. We did everything we could to make friends with these people. Then I started evacuating my friends [who had been killed or injured], and it wasn't cool anymore. -U.S. Marine Jeremy Heidrick in Iraq, St. Louis Post-Dispatch, April 19, 2004 Worried about $40-per-barrel oil? You needn't be, if Bob Woodward is anyone to go by. According to Woodward, Saudi Arabia's ambassador to the United States, Prince Bandar bin Sultan, promised President Bush the Saudis would cut oil prices before November to ensure the U.S. economy is strong on Election Day. In an interview with CBS's 60 Minutes about his new book Plan of Attack on the Bush administration's preparations for the Iraq war, Woodward, a senior editor at The Washington Post, said Prince Bandar pledged that the Saudis would try to fine-tune oil prices to prime the U.S. economy for the election-a move they understood would favor Bush's re-election. All the neocon blithe assumptions about Iraq and oil look questionable today. It sounds wonderful, but if such a pledge was ever given, Saudi actions in the past year suggest that it has been revoked, largely in response to the growing geopolitical morass that is developing in the Middle East. In the aftermath of Gulf War II, it was felt that mobilization against Iraq would give the United States a renewed opportunity to expand its power and influence in the region-this time potentially to use its new Persian Gulf bases to establish even more bases in the ancient territories between the Tigris and Euphrates rivers in Iraq, while remaking a hitherto backward region into a bastion of Anglo-American liberal-democracy. More importantly, many of the neocons who now dominate administration thinking felt that the oil fields seized as a by-product of this invasion would give the United States a de facto seat in OPEC, and control over a huge cash-generating asset required to fund its massive domestic and overseas debt build-up. At the same time, it was also hoped that President Bush would use his expanded leverage to press for a comprehensive settlement of the Palestinian-Israeli conflict. All of these blithe assumptions look questionable today, to say the least-none more so than the assumptions about oil. After the end of the Iraq invasion, the oil price fell sharply to $26 (WTI), although little of this can be ascribed to the Saudis, who have been producing at roughly the same capacity of between 8.5 and 9.4mmbd of crude oil, natural gas and gas liquids for the past 10 years, according to figures collated by independent oil analysts, Groppe, Long Littell (GLL). These price forecasts, made by a number of prominent Wall Street banks such as Citicorp, were based on two assumptions: precautionary inventories built prior to the Middle East hostilities would be liquidated and, under the U.S. occupation, Iraqi oil would flow soon and copiously. In turn, that Iraqi oil would at least pay for the occupation and reconstruction of Iraq-so believed neoconservative planners in Washington and in the new Coalition Provisional Authority set up by the Bush administration in Baghdad. Since the U.S. occupation of Iraq began, the pipelines north of Haditha have been the targets of repeated sabotage. The result, according to GLL, is a shortage of natural gas and the inability to use all of the capacity of Iraq's refineries. Consequently, the country is still producing well below its current estimated capacity of 2.5mmbd of crude oil production. Equally problematic from the Americans' perspective is the increasingly unaccommodating policy stance of the Saudis, who had hitherto been relied upon to offset looming oil shortages. As it now stands, the Israel-Palestine conflict has no direct impact on Middle Eastern oil supplies. However, it has led to a movement of solidarity among Middle Eastern states against the Bush administration's perceived one-sided support of Israel and in addition has led the Saudis, fearing their special relationship with America to be under threat, to play the oil card in a manner highly inimical to American economic interests. No Surprise To Bush It is not as if the Bush administration wasn't warned: Before his visit to Bush's ranch near Crawford, Texas, Crown Prince Abdullah (through his interpreter) told the press that allowing the Israeli-Palestinian conflict to spiral out of control will have grave consequences for the United States and its interests. On June 10, 2003, the Saudi oil minister sent letters to the companies negotiating contracts for participation in the natural gas industry of the Kingdom.
Re: [biofuel] incomplete batch?
Hi Todd, I also had a batch do this. Am I correct in assuming that if the amounts of alcohol and lye are correct, that the problem lays in not enough mixing time? Or would something else cause it? Rick M Brownstown, Mi. The volume of glycerin cocktail that settled out should give you an idea of where the problem might lay. Presuming you used a ratio of 5:1 oil/alcohol, you should have had approximately 5 gallons of glycerin cocktail. It sounds as if your reaction didn't go to completion. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] diesel generator
Try Utterpower.com it is a very interesting site Ken [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] New producer in search of Methanol
I would like to start producing biodiesel for myself but I'm having a bit of trouble finding Methanol. Could anyone advise where I might look in or around the Southeast Wisconsin area? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Advil Bottle Bubbler
Hi Everybody. Just thought I'd post this idea for a bubbler I made. Those aquarium stones were driving me crazy as the only ones I could find up here in Quebec were melting all the time and making a mess. I had a look at the bottom of a bottle of Advil and realized that it's made of HDPE 2. Perfect! I pricked about 50 minute holes in with the smallest pin I could find, drilled a hole through the cap and ran the tubing through and attached what was left of the stone (the airtube attachment) then I filled the bottle with a bunch of stainless nuts for weight, screwed the cap on, dropped it to the bottom of the tank and turned on the air pump. It works great! I've been washing with it now steadily for two weeks and have had no problems at all. Super cheap, easy to find and stands up perfectly to the biodiesel. Just make sure you use the smallest pin possible to make the holes and you'll get really fine bubbles. For bigger tanks, use the the supersize bottles and a dual line aquarium pump. Hope this is helpful. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: New producer in search of Methanol
Ah methanol, that at times illusive PITA (PainInTheA**), Ha! Actually the stuff goes by a variety of names (just to get you going), but happily I have a link you can check out where they are all nicely listed :) http://ptcl.chem.ox.ac.uk/MSDS/ME/methyl_alcohol.html IT's all the same creature, just goes by a different name. Why ? Don't know. Just to complicate a simple thing I guess. Some have also posted that at times you can get it from a race track for cars, an automotive supply house ect... I have found a Home Depot type of thing where I can get it without having to write a fifteen page disclosure. It is found in the paint department sometimes, and can come in liter, 4 liter or 20 liter jugs. The race track might be able to do 45galImp /208.2L /(US55gal)drums. My situation requires a bit of discretion so large drums is out of the question, but I can get away with 20 liter ones. Luc --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, stevenpfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to start producing biodiesel for myself but I'm having a bit of trouble finding Methanol. Could anyone advise where I might look in or around the Southeast Wisconsin area? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Distillation
Hi 1 mbar at what temperature? Regards Mark, UK Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Cellulose-Alcohol - The Key is Acid recovery
Hi All Cellulose to Ethanol has been around since the early 1940's. Processing cellulose into sucrose and xylose is very simple and yields are reported as high as 60% by mass, net remaining being lignin that is used as boiler fuel. USA, Russia and Japan all have their own research programs. Fermenting the sugars is an age old technology and even xylose yeasts are available, this really is an improvement. High conc. acid system yeild the highest amount of fermentable sugars but the acid must be recycled. Osmonics offer process membranes and I think these are very similar to the techniques used in Japan in the 1940's. Mark, UK = Mark Schofield M.Sc B.Eng DHE AMIMechE t 07944 401662 e [EMAIL PROTECTED] Autogas Conversions and LPG Pumps Yahoo! Messenger - Communicate instantly...Ping your friends today! Download Messenger Now http://uk.messenger.yahoo.com/download/index.html Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re: New producer in search of Methanol
Bazell Race Fuels in Ohio has various distributors throughout the midwest. They have a website, and are pretty helpful. The local dealer here in Indiana hasn't been too darn helpful, but the people in Ohio seem to be. Whereabouts in Southease WI would you be located? I spent a few years in Pewaukee and Tosa. Hope to get back someday, but currently stuck in Indiana due to job situation. Brian --- In biofuel@yahoogroups.com, stevenpfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I would like to start producing biodiesel for myself but I'm having a bit of trouble finding Methanol. Could anyone advise where I might look in or around the Southeast Wisconsin area? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] biodiesel business
Sorry if that last email got sent... Anyway, Hello I'm currently a student (studying business) and I want to make some money with biodiesel. For starteers, I want to convince my school to run their diesel fleet off bio. However, i have absolutly no knowledge about setting up a biodiesel business. Has anybody done this? Either distribution or small-scale manufacturing? Thanks, Tomas Novickas Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Advil Bottle Bubbler
on 5/3/04 10:30 AM, hamiltonjohndavid at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I had a look at the bottom of a bottle of Advil and realized that it's made of HDPE 2. Perfect! I pricked about 50 minute holes in with the smallest pin I could find, drilled a hole through the cap and ran the tubing through and attached what was left of the stone (the airtube attachment) then I filled the bottle with a bunch of stainless nuts for weight Ingenious! I love it ... this is exactly the sort of techno- logical advance that I really appreciate from the homebrew biodiesel community. You made my day! -K Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [biofuel] OT: anybody have a 1.6 VW diesel head or motor for sale?
A few months back I saw a diesel rabbit come into a salvage yard that I frequent. I have no idea the size or condition of the engine but I personally turned it over. I have no idea if the car is still in the yard but the place is called Sturtevant Auto Salvage - Sturtevant WI. The phone number is 262-835-2914. It's a long shot but at least a shot. Ed Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Good luck you guys, I've gone through this few times with my Wabbit. The heads are real hard to find. The dealers know it and are charging big time. Rebuilt heads are $400-700.00. Be very cautious about he quality of a rebuilt head, don't take it for granted that it was done correctly. I asked around on a number of VW sights, nothing really came of it. Used heads are a roll of the dice at best, about $150. Depending on the condition, it may be another $200 the rebuild. Have a reputable diesel shop measure and pressure test before you buy, runs about $30. Most shops will tell you they can do the work but, they're really not set up for it, try to find a shop that does only diesel work, trucks, forklifts... They'll have all the right tools, gigs, manuals/specs and will have seen many VW heads already. They'll disassemble and clean the head. They'll measure for the amount of warppage and previous machining. They'll pressure test for leakage. If the crack is between the valves, the head may still be usable/serviceable, If the crack comes out of the prechamber it's done for. I drove with a cracked head for over a year. It was supposed to be temperary fix but, these darn heads are hard to find! I found the last head by pure chance. Most of the VW Parts shops are dealing in the 1.9L. I did hear of a Co. that was casting/machining new heads for about $700.00. I have no idea about how well they're working. Does anyone know? If you find any working/rebuildable heads please let me know. Good luck and thanks, Ed From: girl mark Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [biofuel] OT: anybody have a 1.6 VW diesel head or motor for sale? Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:15:25 -0700 offtopic: Does anyone on these lists in the US have for sale: any of the following Volkswagen diesel engines or engine parts from the Rabbit/Jetta/Golf family: 1. functioning (or at least not cracked) 1.6L, non-turbo cylinder head (12 mm bolts), 2. or a 1.6 turbodiesel motor in any condition 3. or a 1.9 (nonTDI) turbo motor/trans for sale, 4. or a crashed, cheap, parts VW with functioning engine from post-1981-ish that is located within a day's hauling distance from San Francisco?? I'm working on my biodiesel site's landlord's truck (s brother';s cousin's girlfriend's boss's cousin's) and we're a little stumped on how to proceed with it, affordably, especially since we don't have a good core to use if we're buying a rebuilt head. He cracked the head on a nice engine in a truck he was planning on eventually doing a major restoration job to, and he was additionally planning on someday putting a turbo engine into this old little vehicle. It's a tough call on where to proceed with it with the premature demise of the current engine, and he is now considering an engine swap to a turbo or 1.9 canadian turbo engine if we can find one quickish. Cheap turbo engines needing a rebuild= work for me. also, does anyone in the SF Bay Area have VW injection pump timing tools that I could rent from you (or buy from you) for the job? Mark _ Motherâs Day is May 9. Make it special with great ideas from the Motherâs Day Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04mothersday.armx Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links - Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL
RE: [biofuel] OT: anybody have a 1.6 VW diesel head or motor for sale?
My brother Lee has my dad's old diesel rabbit he is using for parts out in NM. I forgot why it stopped running but he says the head is removed but not cracked. He may be interested in selling it. Give him a call at 505-579-4604. The only caveatis that if you do get it and run it on bio-diesel you have to give me a ride in it to the local golf course in honor of my dad. :-) Steve --- Steven Pfaff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few months back I saw a diesel rabbit come into a salvage yard that I frequent. I have no idea the size or condition of the engine but I personally turned it over. I have no idea if the car is still in the yard but the place is called Sturtevant Auto Salvage - Sturtevant WI. The phone number is 262-835-2914. It's a long shot but at least a shot. Ed Hall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Good luck you guys, I've gone through this few times with my Wabbit. The heads are real hard to find. The dealers know it and are charging big time. Rebuilt heads are $400-700.00. Be very cautious about he quality of a rebuilt head, don't take it for granted that it was done correctly. I asked around on a number of VW sights, nothing really came of it. Used heads are a roll of the dice at best, about $150. Depending on the condition, it may be another $200 the rebuild. Have a reputable diesel shop measure and pressure test before you buy, runs about $30. Most shops will tell you they can do the work but, they're really not set up for it, try to find a shop that does only diesel work, trucks, forklifts... They'll have all the right tools, gigs, manuals/specs and will have seen many VW heads already. They'll disassemble and clean the head. They'll measure for the amount of warppage and previous machining. They'll pressure test for leakage. If the crack is between the valves, the head may still be usable/serviceable, If the crack comes out of the prechamber it's done for. I drove with a cracked head for over a year. It was supposed to be temperary fix but, these darn heads are hard to find! I found the last head by pure chance. Most of the VW Parts shops are dealing in the 1.9L. I did hear of a Co. that was casting/machining new heads for about $700.00. I have no idea about how well they're working. Does anyone know? If you find any working/rebuildable heads please let me know. Good luck and thanks, Ed From: girl mark Reply-To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com To: [EMAIL PROTECTED], biofuel@yahoogroups.com, [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [biofuel] OT: anybody have a 1.6 VW diesel head or motor for sale? Date: Sat, 01 May 2004 21:15:25 -0700 offtopic: Does anyone on these lists in the US have for sale: any of the following Volkswagen diesel engines or engine parts from the Rabbit/Jetta/Golf family: 1. functioning (or at least not cracked) 1.6L, non-turbo cylinder head (12 mm bolts), 2. or a 1.6 turbodiesel motor in any condition 3. or a 1.9 (nonTDI) turbo motor/trans for sale, 4. or a crashed, cheap, parts VW with functioning engine from post-1981-ish that is located within a day's hauling distance from San Francisco?? I'm working on my biodiesel site's landlord's truck (s brother';s cousin's girlfriend's boss's cousin's) and we're a little stumped on how to proceed with it, affordably, especially since we don't have a good core to use if we're buying a rebuilt head. He cracked the head on a nice engine in a truck he was planning on eventually doing a major restoration job to, and he was additionally planning on someday putting a turbo engine into this old little vehicle. It's a tough call on where to proceed with it with the premature demise of the current engine, and he is now considering an engine swap to a turbo or 1.9 canadian turbo engine if we can find one quickish. Cheap turbo engines needing a rebuild= work for me. also, does anyone in the SF Bay Area have VW injection pump timing tools that I could rent from you (or buy from you) for the job? Mark _ Mothers Day is May 9. Make it special with great ideas from the Mothers Day Guide! http://special.msn.com/network/04mothersday.armx Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links - Do you Yahoo!? Win a $20,000 Career Makeover at Yahoo! HotJobs [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[biofuel] Lye in Canada
Hi again. Finding lye in Canada can be a pain. I finally tracked a good source down at Home Hardware here on the east coast. Gillette's Lye is available in small bottles at HH and is expensive. HH has their own brand called Home Lye Crystals and comes in a 3k container for about 18$. Hope this is helpful. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] ethanol car fuel from wood waste, larger-scale project in Japan
http://www.co2e.com/News/story.asp?StoryID=1628 01/04/2004: Taisei, Marubeni to Turn Construction Waste Into Car Biofuel: Asia Pulse Pte Ltd TOKYO, April 1 Asia Pulse - Five companies, including general contractor Taisei Corp. (TSE:1801) and trading house Marubeni Corp. (TSE:8002), will join in a new business to extract car fuel from wood materials discarded in construction. The firms will jointly establish a company in April with a capitalization of 100 million yen (US$960,836), with a plan to begin mass production of ethanol for automobiles in fiscal 2007. The use of biomass fuel is considered an effective way to reduce greenhouse gases. The company will aim to establish itself in the new environmental business with an eye toward the creation of an infrastructure for such biofuel by the government and the auto industry. The other participating firms are Sapporo Breweries Ltd., construction waste disposal firm Daiei Inter Nature System Inc. and construction materials manufacturer Tokyo Board Industries Co. The companies will spend more than 3 billion yen to build an ethanol-production plant in Osaka Prefecture. Starting in fiscal 2007, the plant will process 30,000 tons of discarded wood materials each year to produce 3,700kl of ethanol that will be supplied to 100 gas stations throughout the year. The ethanol will be shipped at a price of about 50 yen per liter, and the company targets sales of 500 million yen in the first year. To produce ethanol that is more than 99 per cent pure, wood materials will be decomposed using acid and will then be fermented. The technology will be based on extraction techniques that Marubeni introduced from the U.S., and Sapporo Breweries will provide its expertise in fermentation. Meanwhile, Taisei and Daiei will supply the discarded wood materials. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at MyInks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/mOAaAA/3exGAA/qnsNAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/biofuel/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
