[Biofuel] up country e-mail friend of GoHoff
Good evening everybody and thank You for this amount of information communicated here. This is my first post here after at least six months of just reading and thinking while building a reactor from 200l drums. I made a quick page (for some reason with very poor picture quality, please excuse that) about the test batch mentioned by GoHoff and it all looked quite allright to me but after the water test i could not resist to shake it once more the next day and after that it separated again but i got some kind of fluff between the water and the BD (no pictures of that).. It lies on top of the water and looks bad... Is that something that a normal wash would take care of or something that is bad ?? I have bubble washed the rest of the batch in another PET bottle turned upside down with the bottom cut of and a outlet in the screw plug.. The fourth water (this is better than siphoning (??) the used wash water out but some of the milky water still gets caught in there) is very clear. http://user.tninet.se/~qrg733j/Krympta/Snoddastest_1.html Any comments on the rsults of my test batch would be very appreciated. Lars A Lars Andersson Vstanskogsgatan 7 590 71 Ljungsbro 013-66574/070-5334054 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] mercedes diesel engine recommendations
http://www.mercedesshop.com/ Kirk On Feb 4, 2005, at 1:38 PM, Ross Oakley wrote: to the biodiesel enthusiasts: My name is Ross Oakley, and i'm about to commence a biodiesel dissertation in the area of Reno, Nevada. I'm looking to produce my own biodiesel once it warms up a bit and in the meantime am looking for a suitable vehicle to run biodiesel with. Im convinced that a Mercedes is the way to go. Does anyone know a specific year, type, model, or feature (turbo vs. not) (direct vs. indirect compression ignition engine) that would be the best choice for a reliable means of promoting biodiesel? thanks much and let the biodiesel revolution begin Ross ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Sustainable Living Conference '05 Olympia, WA
Hello to all, Sorry that I haven't mentioned this earlier, but I would like to invite everyone within the Pacific Northwest vicinity to come to SYNERGY 2005, the Fourth Annual Sustainable Living Conference, at the Evergreen State College in Olympia, WA. The conference starts Wednesday(Feb.9th) evening and runs through Saturday the 12th. The conference will include speakers, presentations, workshops, and panels in the areas of eco-design, eco-art, alternative transportation/fuels/energy, wilderness conservation, political activism, human welfare, spiritual health, y mucho mas. BIG events to look for; AMY GOODMAN of DEMOCRACY NOW! saturday evening; CLEAN CAR SHOW also on sat.; ORGANIC FARM showcase including Evergreen's new (student built) biodiesel processor; TRASHy FASHION SHOW on friday.. for full schedule see www.evergreen.edu/synergy. Hope you all can make it, Angie Kubalek __ Do you Yahoo!? Meet the all-new My Yahoo! - Try it today! http://my.yahoo.com ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Keith, I have read those (several times already) and they provided inconsistancies and flat out wrong information on the website. I am just not getting where you can jump from some of the information is wrong to all of the information is wrong. Just because the website overstates itself DOESN'T mean that there isn't any foundation in truth. One person not getting it to work using an unknown method does not mean that the beads do not do anything. There are compounds that will remove water and FFA from vegoil and meet most of the claims from the site. For all I know they could be no better than activated alumina F200 beads that will absorb the FFA and H2O. All I am saying is that there is not enough information to claim that they don't do anything. Do you have anything else to show they do not work? Andy On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:22:57 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Andy, do you really only go one level deep? Even M$ Explorer can do better than that (well, the Macintosh version can anyway - not that I ever use it). 43433 says: User report: STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..the pumps work well but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, same with the biopass filter...STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..!!! No details, therefore useless. 37536 says: Okay Let me spell it out for you then. A mere three lines down, 37536 says this - they're links, click on them. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/14806/ Accusorb beads http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/26341/ Back yard Bio-Diesel chemists are playing with a toxic time bomb Once you've done that and read what will thus be revealed, then maybe you'll see why I said this: What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Useless? If you say so. Up to you of course, play with beads and mirrors if you like. Keith The same thing, a quote from Adlai Meredith No details, therefore useless. Following the link here is follow-up post by Meredith: Here she states I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry). With that statement and references to use of hydrogenated oil I really question the way they were used. For all I can tell, they didn't drive off the water before using them and tried to use it to add double bonds to the oils. http://www.forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3243 UPDATE: In all fairness to the manufacturer, I will state that Bob Green has been extremely timely with his response to both our emails. Here is his latest response: Sounds like you picked the wrong type of oil to recycle. Sound like mcdonalds grease. some oils are so badly hydrogenated they never get clear. The best you can do is ad 50% diesel and get them thin enough to flow properly. Try getting some good used soy from a Chinese restaurant or a fish and chips place. Those types of oils are easier to work with than the hydrogenated stuff you have. Margarine starts out as a clear thin oil (corn oil) and THEN they Hydrogenate it until it gets thick and cloudy and presto you have margarine. Some restaurants only use hydrogenated oils and it best to stay away from those types of oils. If you have use this stuff you have you will have to use a 50/50 ratio of Diesel to oil. Do yourself a favor and try to find some other oil sources. The stuff you have is the worst type to work with!!! Regards Bob Green We will try some different oil when we get a chance. I guess my biggest gripe is that the ad states that the product does things that it obviously doesn't do such as: Decontaminates ALL types of vegetable oils up to 97% clean. Removes all types of water bonded molecules from oils and fats. Turns mucky and milky waste oil emulsions into clear (non-opaque) burnable fuels. and on and on for like 20 pages (I just printed it out) At the end of our experiment we had the oil (that was extremely diluted with regular diesel and warmed up in a hot water heater) that looked pretty clear go into the beads. What came out was totally opaque (the pumps were on the slowest setting).I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry) but I do know enough to say that in my opinion this product does not work in the manner that is advestised (and I think I was probably one whom the ad was targeted to; mechanically inclined but not so chemically aware?). Anyway, next time we change our oil in the truck we'll see how the beads handle the black oil and I will let you all know.unless anyone in in the market for some slightly used Acusorb Beads???
Swiss government: was Re: [Biofuel] OOPS (typo) -- sorry Kieth
With apologies for nitpicking, herewith some extracts from Political Switzerland, a small book by Oswald Sigg (Zurich: Pro Helvetia, 1997): The Swiss Government is called the Federal Council. It consists of seven members and is headed for a period of one year by a president elected from among the Federal Council members. Ever since 1944, the [party] composition of the government has remained the same... The Federal Council is elected by Parliament every four years (both chambers meet in the National Council Hall)... The meetings of the Federal Council are chaired by the President of the Confederation who is elected for one year only from among the Federal Councillors. He is thus something in the nature of a prime Minister ad interim whose office consists first and foremost of chairing the meetings of the Federal Council and performing certain representative duties. During his year as president he also continues to be head of his own department. Switzerland has no actual head of state. When a foreign head of state, or even a queen, visits Berne [the capital of Switzerland], they are usually received by all seven members of the Federal Council. Each member of the Federal Council is the head of a department, or of what would be known abroad as a ministry. There are just seven such departments in Switzerland, so that each head of department is responsible for several sub-divisions which usually correspond to several ministries abroad. The Swiss Parliament, the Federal Assembly, is made up of two chambers: the National Council, with 200 members, and the Council of States, with 46 members [2 per canton = U.S. state or Canadian province]. The Assembly is elected by proportional representation. In 1995 it contained four relatively large parties and 8 small ones. Since the party composition of the government hasn't changed since 1944 and elections are likely to affect only personalities and particular measures, the turnout for elections to the Assembly tends to be low; 42.2% in 1995. By petition of 50,000 citizens within 90 days of the passage of a law, it may be required to be ratified by a referendum. In the cantons, proposals for laws may be put forward by a petition to be submitted to a referendum. The Federal Constitution is also subject to change through an initiative by petition of 100,000 citizens, followed by a referendum. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Michael Redler wrote: ...for what it's worth, My grandmother's house is only 400+ years old. Freudian slip? :-) Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Kieth, There's a lot of stuff you threw out there. To address it all would take a heck of a lot of time -- suffice to say that I agree with most of it. Switzerland: If part of it's government was based on the US constitution, you wouldn't know it. It gained it's Independence over 700 years ago and I think they had it pretty much nailed down before Jefferson put pen to paper. I visited my grandmother two weeks ago as I've done almost every year since I was an infant. Her 700+ year old house is a testament to their cautious attitude toward progress (I'm alluding to housing development). You are right about voting. Before my Aunt could build her new house, it had to be approved by those in her neighborhood. She, in fact, had to build a stick frame of the house to show its size and shape and offer a visual aid for all who would approve it (or not). Presidents: They have seven of them, representing all of the regions of the confederation. Since Switzerland has four national languages, They are usually fluent in two or three of them (German French Italian and Rhetto-Romanish). This makes me wonder about the whole one nation, one language thing. I don't want to go on too long -- especially since I think you already did a great job covering much of this. I just wanted to offer some perspective as a witness to quite another interpretation of democracy. I sometimes see my relatives and the country they live in with envy. This is a country that hasn't experienced war within its borders since the crossbow was the weapon of choice. They have a well organized, cohesive government where you don't have to own a car and you would be hard-pressed to find a hungry child -- all of this while the language (and sometimes culture) can change within a thirty minute walk. Mike [snip] ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Am I dreaming or what?
Perhaps this should be filed in the You must be dreaming file, however, I was wondering if it isn't time someone developed a scale, so to speak, on which a particular society's governmental need could be assessed. For example, developing country's, without infrastructure, or with minimal infrastructure and with epidemic level public health issues would obviously need governments strong in public works projects, public health task forces combined with long term project teams, focusing on both prevention and hospital/clinic building. Countries entangled in civil war would seem, to me anyway, to be better recipients of the American big stick military, than simply countries who happen to be parked over H2S laden black gold. I am getting a bit off-track here, and yes I, really was going somewhere with all this. For the countries with so many programs, policies, p.a.c.'s, governMENTAL agencies, politicians, departments, houses, members of senate, parties, and our all time favorite, corporations, we could never, in a million years, hope to remember even half of them, could our fantasy scale be applied to actually see what is needed in the way of a government? I have had some fun with this, but my actual question, or idea if you like, is real. I am not sure there is an answer, but that's half the fun of asking. In case, as is sometimes the case with my writing, I have lost anyone, here's my question. First, do you think it is possible to develop a scale (sliding, graduated, etc.) that could be used to identify a countries (ultimately, it would be need to be able to be used for any and/or all countries) governmental needs? By governmental needs, I mean the actual size, right down to the number of department heads, employees in each department, yearly budget, operating costs, etc. This would all be estimated of course, with a close margin of error given, but that would also be something that we would have to understand before we could ethically use it. This is purely hypothetical, as I am not aware of any governments that are going to jump at the oppurtunity to be downsized to more appropriate dimensions, which brings up my final question. If a working scale could be created, do you think anyone would find it useful, or merely more depressing? AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: Swiss government: was Re: [Biofuel] OOPS (typo) -- sorry Kieth
Thanks for this post. I found it very enlightening. AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 6:29 PM Subject: Swiss government: was Re: [Biofuel] OOPS (typo) -- sorry Kieth With apologies for nitpicking, herewith some extracts from Political Switzerland, a small book by Oswald Sigg (Zurich: Pro Helvetia, 1997): The Swiss Government is called the Federal Council. It consists of seven members and is headed for a period of one year by a president elected from among the Federal Council members. Ever since 1944, the [party] composition of the government has remained the same... The Federal Council is elected by Parliament every four years (both chambers meet in the National Council Hall)... The meetings of the Federal Council are chaired by the President of the Confederation who is elected for one year only from among the Federal Councillors. He is thus something in the nature of a prime Minister ad interim whose office consists first and foremost of chairing the meetings of the Federal Council and performing certain representative duties. During his year as president he also continues to be head of his own department. Switzerland has no actual head of state. When a foreign head of state, or even a queen, visits Berne [the capital of Switzerland], they are usually received by all seven members of the Federal Council. Each member of the Federal Council is the head of a department, or of what would be known abroad as a ministry. There are just seven such departments in Switzerland, so that each head of department is responsible for several sub-divisions which usually correspond to several ministries abroad. The Swiss Parliament, the Federal Assembly, is made up of two chambers: the National Council, with 200 members, and the Council of States, with 46 members [2 per canton = U.S. state or Canadian province]. The Assembly is elected by proportional representation. In 1995 it contained four relatively large parties and 8 small ones. Since the party composition of the government hasn't changed since 1944 and elections are likely to affect only personalities and particular measures, the turnout for elections to the Assembly tends to be low; 42.2% in 1995. By petition of 50,000 citizens within 90 days of the passage of a law, it may be required to be ratified by a referendum. In the cantons, proposals for laws may be put forward by a petition to be submitted to a referendum. The Federal Constitution is also subject to change through an initiative by petition of 100,000 citizens, followed by a referendum. Doug Woodard St. Catharines, Ontario, Canada On Fri, 4 Feb 2005, Michael Redler wrote: ...for what it's worth, My grandmother's house is only 400+ years old. Freudian slip? :-) Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:Hi Kieth, There's a lot of stuff you threw out there. To address it all would take a heck of a lot of time -- suffice to say that I agree with most of it. Switzerland: If part of it's government was based on the US constitution, you wouldn't know it. It gained it's Independence over 700 years ago and I think they had it pretty much nailed down before Jefferson put pen to paper. I visited my grandmother two weeks ago as I've done almost every year since I was an infant. Her 700+ year old house is a testament to their cautious attitude toward progress (I'm alluding to housing development). You are right about voting. Before my Aunt could build her new house, it had to be approved by those in her neighborhood. She, in fact, had to build a stick frame of the house to show its size and shape and offer a visual aid for all who would approve it (or not). Presidents: They have seven of them, representing all of the regions of the confederation. Since Switzerland has four national languages, They are usually fluent in two or three of them (German French Italian and Rhetto-Romanish). This makes me wonder about the whole one nation, one language thing. I don't want to go on too long -- especially since I think you already did a great job covering much of this. I just wanted to offer some perspective as a witness to quite another interpretation of democracy. I sometimes see my relatives and the country they live in with envy. This is a country that hasn't experienced war within its borders since the crossbow was the weapon of choice. They have a well organized, cohesive government where you don't have to own a car and you would be hard-pressed to find a hungry child -- all of this while
[Biofuel] biojelly
I did my first batch today which congealed into a jelly like substance. I used 80 liters of dewatered wvo 10 liters of Methanol and 400g lye. I mixed my methoxide in a 5gal container until compleatly disolved, It was still warm when I fed it in to my processor. I also believe the oil was to hot in the processor, there was a semi-violant reaction and I believe the methane vaporized. After running it in the processor for about 2 hours I drained about a liter into a bottle and the rest into a a drum. the bottle has congealed and the drum is doing the same. neither one has separated at all. Any ideas? ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] American or Canadian
G'day Robert et all; It is not so much that Canadians are trying to not be Americans so much as it is a case of just being, without nationalistic afrontery. I used to teach in a small school in northern British Columbia. When we moved into a new building, I asked for a flag pole out in front and always raised the Canadian flag before school. Two of my students were tasked, at the end of the day, the lower the flag, fold it and put it away. When the school board chairman asked why I just didn't leave the flag up on the pole, I responded: Taking it down shows respect and keeps it from getting tattered in the wind. You Canadians should take more pride in your national symbols. That's an American for you, he replied. Here in Canada, we don't surrender our territorial sovereignty just because the sun goes down. With your attitude, if you lived a little further north, the flag wouldn't get put up for half the school year! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives
Thank you for sending the link. On my system I did find it and also another one. First I probably could not find it, because it is not called Wintron CX30, but Wintron XC30. I have found two different companies that sell it. Both in England. One sells it for 40 and one sells it for 19 pounds per liter. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives G'day Pieter; http://www.biofuelsystems.com/uk2shop-2.htm However when I just tried thelink it was down. Hope they are still tehre. Luc - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives Hello, Can you tell me where I could buy this Wintron CX-30 out here in Holland ? Thanks in advance. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] American or Canadian
Hehe. And British Columbia is about as American as a Canadian place could be.It was a worthy smile, thanks. Luc - Original Message - From: robert luis rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 12:23 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] American or Canadian Legal Eagle wrote: G'day Robert et all; It is not so much that Canadians are trying to not be Americans so much as it is a case of just being, without nationalistic afrontery. I used to teach in a small school in northern British Columbia. When we moved into a new building, I asked for a flag pole out in front and always raised the Canadian flag before school. Two of my students were tasked, at the end of the day, the lower the flag, fold it and put it away. When the school board chairman asked why I just didn't leave the flag up on the pole, I responded: Taking it down shows respect and keeps it from getting tattered in the wind. You Canadians should take more pride in your national symbols. That's an American for you, he replied. Here in Canada, we don't surrender our territorial sovereignty just because the sun goes down. With your attitude, if you lived a little further north, the flag wouldn't get put up for half the school year! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.authorhouse.com/BookStore/ItemDetail.aspx?bookid=9782 Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion
Hi, Huge Snip Yes, VERY many! And I don't believe you're passive about it, and not without any effect. Your sister's not alone in wanting to leave, and certainly not to be blamed for it either (not that I could blame anyone for such a thing, with all my comings and goings for most of my life!). But think of what Hakan's just been telling Luc about how many other Iraqis one dead Iraqi will influence - one living American who feels strongly about these things, even if she moves to Europe, will influence just as many others: that's not to say convince, necessarily, but influence, sway, yes. And there are many millions of you. That has me wondering how many people about the world the almost 3000 members of this List influence. Derek Hargis Best wishes Keith robert luis rabello ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] biojelly
- Original Message - From: Jeremy Tracy Longworth [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: [Biofuel] biojelly I did my first batch today which congealed into a jelly like substance. I used 80 liters of dewatered wvo 10 liters of Methanol How did you get 10 liters? When I process 80 liter batches it comes to 16 liters methanol. 2 to the 10 or 20%. and 400g lye. Did the titration give you 1.5ml ? 5gr/liter is exactly what I use and it consistantly gives good results. The oil is from the same source and titrates the same each time. I mixed my methoxide in a 5gal container until compleatly disolved, Fumeless. It's the way to go. I use a 22 liter carboy with a bung cap threaded for 3/4 in plumbing and have a connection running into the pump intake. It was still warm when I fed it in to my processor. I also believe the oil was to hot in the processor, there was a semi-violant reaction and I believe the methane vaporized. Do you pre-heat the WVO ? Is your porcessor equipped with a thermometer, like an automotive one or BBQ type with 1/2 thread ? Methanol evaporates at 65C (148.5F). After running it in the processor for about 2 hours I drained about a liter into a bottle and the rest into a a drum. the bottle has congealed and the drum is doing the same. neither one has separated at all. Any ideas? You made soap. So far, had the titration shown 1.5ml and you had added enough methanol combined with a constant heat to the processing, the settling should have turned out good. Your 80 liters with 16 liters methoxide (400gr NaOH. more if KOH) processed for 2 hours at 55C (130F) and you would have had a batch of useable BD. A little tweeking and you have it :-) Where in te world did you come up with 10 liters methanol ? Luc ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives
Care to share the link or company's name where you found them? The 40pounds is for international mailing the 19 local. Go figure.2 1/2 times more to ship ? Expensive, but apparently worth it. Luc - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 3:36 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives Thank you for sending the link. On my system I did find it and also another one. First I probably could not find it, because it is not called Wintron CX30, but Wintron XC30. I have found two different companies that sell it. Both in England. One sells it for 40 and one sells it for 19 pounds per liter. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 4:32 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives G'day Pieter; http://www.biofuelsystems.com/uk2shop-2.htm However when I just tried thelink it was down. Hope they are still tehre. Luc - Original Message - From: Pieter Koole [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 9:49 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel additives Hello, Can you tell me where I could buy this Wintron CX-30 out here in Holland ? Thanks in advance. Met dank en vriendelijke groet, Pieter Koole Netherlands. Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion
We all have influence. There isn't a single person alive that doesn't have it, at least in their own parameters, some more, some less, but all have it. The trick/solution when combining cultures and traditions is not so much to create a melting pot where all become one with different shades of colour, but rather where all can co-habitate while continuing with their traditions and cultural heritage where they are but without infriging upon the right of others to do the same. Where modifications to this comes nto play is where those certain cultural heritages clash violently or where the host country's traditions and culture is cast aside and a new one attempted to be implanted. Where the later is the case it somewhat negates the reason for one leaving his/her native homeland in the first place eh? Why not just stay there if all is well and no meaningful changes are in order ? It boils down to what a person deems acceptable or not acceptable, livable or intolerable. Luc - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 7:40 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion That has me wondering how many people about the world the almost 3000 members of this List influence. Derek Hargis Best wishes Keith robert luis rabello ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1id=75424 Your car is most likely recording things about your driving and that information can be used against you if you have a traffic accident. Most people don't know their car has a black box. They are similar to ones in airplanes, although they don't record voices, but they do record plenty of other things that happen before a crash. News on 6 reporter Lori Fullbright has been investigating. Even though it's silver, it's called a black box or airbag sensor or event data recorder. Its main job is safety, it operates the airbags, but it also records information and because of that, a Glenpool teenager could be charged with negligent homicide. It'll be the first time anyone's been charged in Tulsa County based on a black box, but you can bet, it won't be the last. Last year, a 19 year old man took his sister's 2002 Trans-Am out for a test drive the day after she bought it. He lost control and hit two utility poles; the crash killed his passenger, who was also 19. The driver had no idea the car would become a witness against him. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
One of the reasons I like older vehicles. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 08:11 Subject: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1id=75424 Your car is most likely recording things about your driving and that information can be used against you if you have a traffic accident. Most people don't know their car has a black box. They are similar to ones in airplanes, although they don't record voices, but they do record plenty of other things that happen before a crash. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
Keith, I have read those (several times already) Why? Wouldn't once have done? and they provided inconsistancies and flat out wrong information on the website. I am just not getting where you can jump from some of the information is wrong to all of the information is wrong. Just because the website overstates itself DOESN'T mean that there isn't any foundation in truth. One person not getting it to work using an unknown method does not mean that the beads do not do anything. There are compounds that will remove water and FFA from vegoil and meet most of the claims from the site. For all I know they could be no better than activated alumina F200 beads that will absorb the FFA and H2O. All I am saying is that there is not enough information to claim that they don't do anything. Do you have anything else to show they do not work? How do you manage so seamlessly and with apparent conviction to morph what is outright lying into mere overstates itself (which you've said twice now)? You'd buy a second-hand car from these guys? Well, go ahead. Keith Andy On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:22:57 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Andy, do you really only go one level deep? Even M$ Explorer can do better than that (well, the Macintosh version can anyway - not that I ever use it). 43433 says: User report: STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..the pumps work well but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, same with the biopass filter...STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..!!! No details, therefore useless. 37536 says: Okay Let me spell it out for you then. A mere three lines down, 37536 says this - they're links, click on them. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/14806/ Accusorb beads http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/26341/ Back yard Bio-Diesel chemists are playing with a toxic time bomb Once you've done that and read what will thus be revealed, then maybe you'll see why I said this: What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Useless? If you say so. Up to you of course, play with beads and mirrors if you like. Keith The same thing, a quote from Adlai Meredith No details, therefore useless. Following the link here is follow-up post by Meredith: Here she states I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry). With that statement and references to use of hydrogenated oil I really question the way they were used. For all I can tell, they didn't drive off the water before using them and tried to use it to add double bonds to the oils. http://www.forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3243 UPDATE: In all fairness to the manufacturer, I will state that Bob Green has been extremely timely with his response to both our emails. Here is his latest response: Sounds like you picked the wrong type of oil to recycle. Sound like mcdonalds grease. some oils are so badly hydrogenated they never get clear. The best you can do is ad 50% diesel and get them thin enough to flow properly. Try getting some good used soy from a Chinese restaurant or a fish and chips place. Those types of oils are easier to work with than the hydrogenated stuff you have. Margarine starts out as a clear thin oil (corn oil) and THEN they Hydrogenate it until it gets thick and cloudy and presto you have margarine. Some restaurants only use hydrogenated oils and it best to stay away from those types of oils. If you have use this stuff you have you will have to use a 50/50 ratio of Diesel to oil. Do yourself a favor and try to find some other oil sources. The stuff you have is the worst type to work with!!! Regards Bob Green We will try some different oil when we get a chance. I guess my biggest gripe is that the ad states that the product does things that it obviously doesn't do such as: Decontaminates ALL types of vegetable oils up to 97% clean. Removes all types of water bonded molecules from oils and fats. Turns mucky and milky waste oil emulsions into clear (non-opaque) burnable fuels. and on and on for like 20 pages (I just printed it out) At the end of our experiment we had the oil (that was extremely diluted with regular diesel and warmed up in a hot water heater) that looked pretty clear go into the beads. What came out was totally opaque (the pumps were on the slowest setting).I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry) but I do know enough to say that in my opinion this product does not work in the manner that is advestised (and I think I was probably one whom the ad was targeted to;
Re: [Biofuel] What the Rest of the World Watched on Inauguration Day
ZNet Not In Our Name by Multi Author February 04, 2005 As George W. Bush is inaugurated for a second term, let it not be said that people in the United States silently acquiesced in the face of this shameful coronation of war, greed, and intolerance. He does not speak for us. He does not represent us. He does not act in our name. No election, whether fair or fraudulent, can legitimize criminal wars on foreign countries, torture, the wholesale violation of human rights, and the end of science and reason. In our name, the Bush government justifies the invasion and occupation of Iraq on false pretenses, raining down destruction, horror, and misery, bringing death to more than 100,000 Iraqis. It sends our youth to destroy entire cities for the sake of so-called democratic elections, while intimidating and disenfranchising thousands of African American and other voters at home. In our name, the Bush government holds in contempt international law and world opinion. It carries out torture and detentions without trial around the world and proposes new assaults on our rights of privacy, speech and assembly at home. It strips the rights of Arabs, Muslims and South Asians in the U.S., denies them legal counsel, stigmatizes and holds them without cause. Thousands have been deported. As new trial balloons are floated about invasions of Syria, or Iran, or North Korea, about leaving the United Nations, about new lifetime detention policies, we say not in our name will we allow further crimes to be committed against nations or individuals deemed to stand in the way of the goal of unquestioned world supremacy. Could we have imagined a few years ago that core principles such as the separation of church and state, due process, presumption of innocence, freedom of speech, and habeas corpus would be discarded so easily? Now, anyone can be declared an enemy combatant without meaningful redress or independent review by a President who is concentrating power in the executive branch. His choice for Attorney General is the legal architect of the torture that has been carried out in Guantanamo, Afghanistan, and Abu Ghraib. The Bush government seeks to impose a narrow, intolerant, and political form of Christian fundamentalism as government policy. No longer on the margins of power, this extremist movement aims to strip women of their reproductive rights, to stoke hatred of gays and lesbians, and to drive a wedge between spiritual experience and scientific truth. We will not surrender to extremists our right to think. AIDS is not a punishment from God. Global warming is a real danger. Evolution happened. All people must be free to find meaning and sustenance in whatever form of religious or spiritual belief they choose. But religion can never be compulsory. These extremists may claim to make their own reality, but we will not allow them to make ours. Millions of us worked, talked, marched, poll watched, contributed, voted, and did everything we could to defeat the Bush regime in the last election. This unprecedented effort brought forth new energy, organization, and commitment to struggle for justice. It would be a terrible mistake to let our failure to stop Bush in these ways lead to despair and inaction. On the contrary, this broad mobilization of people committed to a fairer, freer, more peaceful world must move forward. We cannot, we will not, wait until 2008. The fight against the second Bush regime has to start now. The movement against the war in Vietnam never won a presidential election. But it blocked troop trains, closed induction centers, marched, spoke to people door to door -- and it helped to stop a war. The Civil Rights Movement never tied its star to a presidential candidate; it sat in, freedom rode, fought legal battles, filled jailhouses -- and changed the face of a nation. We must change the political reality of this country by mobilizing the tens of millions who know in their heads and hearts that the Bush regime's reality is nothing but a nightmare for humanity. This will require creativity, mass actions and individual moments of courage. We must come together whenever we can, and we must act alone whenever we have to. We draw inspiration from the soldiers who have refused to fight in this immoral war. We applaud the librarians who have refused to turn over lists of our reading, the high school students who have demanded to be taught evolution, those who brought to light torture by the U.S. military, and the massive protests that voiced international opposition to the war on Iraq. We affirm ordinary people undertaking extraordinary acts. We pledge to create community to back courageous acts of resistance. We stand with the people throughout the world who fight every day for the right to create their own future. It is our responsibility to stop the Bush regime from carrying out this disastrous course. We believe
[Biofuel] Living Under the Bombs
Living Under the Bombs By Dahr Jamail One of the least reported aspects of the U.S. occupation of Iraq is the oftentimes indiscriminate use of air power by the American military. The Western mainstream media has generally failed to attend to the F-16 warplanes dropping their payloads of 500, 1,000, and 2,000-pound bombs on Iraqi cities -- or to the results of these attacks. While some of the bombs and missiles fall on resistance fighters, the majority of the casualties are civilian -- mothers, children, the elderly, and other unarmed civilians. Coalition troops and Iraqi security forces may be responsible for up to 60% of conflict-related civilian deaths in Iraq -- far more than are killed by insurgents, confidential records obtained by the BBC's Panorama programme reveal. As the BBC reported recently, these numbers were compiled by Iraq's Ministry of Health, in part because of the refusal of the Bush and Blair administrations to do so. In the case of Fallujah, where the U.S. military estimated 2,000 people were killed during the recent assault on the city, at least 1,200 of the dead are believed to have been non-combatant civilians. Some of my friends in Fallujah, their homes were attacked by airplanes so they left, and nobody s found them since, said Mehdi Abdulla in a refugee camp in Baghdad. His own home was bombed to rubble by American warplanes during the assault on Fallujah in November -- and in Iraq today, his experience is far from unique. All any reporter has to do is cock an ear or look up to catch the planes roaring over Baghdad en route to bombing missions over Mosul, Fallujah and other trouble spots on a weekly - sometimes even a daily basis. It is simply impossible to travel the streets of Baghdad without seeing several Apache or Blackhawk helicopters buzzing the rooftops. Their rumbling blades are so close to the ground and so powerful that they leave wailing car alarms in their wake as they pass over any neighborhood. With its ground troops stretched thin and growing haggard -- 30% of them, after all, are already on their second tour of duty in the brutal occupation of Iraq - U.S. military commanders appear to be relying more than ever on airpower to give themselves an edge. The November assault on Fallujah did not even begin until warplanes had, on a near-daily basis, dropped 500-1000 pound bombs on suspected resistance targets in the besieged city. During that period, fighter jets ripped through the air over Baghdad for nights on end, heading out on mission after mission to drop their payloads on Fallujah. Airpower remains the single greatest asymmetrical advantage the United States has over its foes, writes Thomas Searle, a military defense analyst with the Airpower Research Institute at Maxwell Air Force Base in Alabama. To make airpower truly effective against guerrillas in that war, we cannot wait for the joint force commander or the ground component commander to tell us what to do. Rather, we must aggressively develop and employ airpower's counterguerrilla capabilities. Aggressively employ airpower's capabilities -- indeed they have. Even the Chickens and Sheep Are Frightened The first day of Ramadan we went to the prayers and, just as the Imam said Allahu Akbar (God is great), the jets began to arrive. Abu Hammad was remembering the early stages of the November Fallujah campaign. They came continuously through the night and bombed everywhere in Fallujah. It did not stop even for a moment. The 35 year-old merchant is now a refugee living in a tent on the campus of the University of Baghdad along with over 900 other homeless Fallujans. If the American forces did not find a target to bomb, he said, they used sound bombs just to terrorize the people and children. The city stayed in fear; I cannot give you a picture of how panicked everyone was. As he spoke in a strained voice, his body began to tremble with the memories, In the morning, I found Fallujah empty, as if nobody lived in it. It felt as though Fallujah had already been bombed to the ground. As if nothing were left. When Abu Hammad says nothing, he means it. It is now estimated that 75% of the homes and buildings in the city were destroyed either by warplanes, helicopters, or artillery barrages; most of the remaining 25% sustained at least some damage as well. Even the telephone exchange in Fallujah has been flattened, he added between quickening breaths because, as he remembers, as he makes the effort to explain, his rage grows. Nothing works in Fallujah now! Several men standing with us, all of whom are refugees like Hammad, nod in agreement while staring off toward the setting sun to the west, the direction where their city once stood. Throughout much of urban Iraq, people tell stories of being terrorized by American airpower, which is often loosed on heavily populated neighborhoods that have, in effect, been declared the bombing
[Biofuel] Train Wreck of an Election
Published on Tuesday, February 1, 2005 by the Boston Globe Train Wreck of an Election by James Carroll In thinking about the election in Iraq, my mind keeps jumping back to last week's train wreck in California. A deranged man, intending suicide, drove his Jeep Cherokee onto the railroad tracks, where it got stuck. The onrushing train drew near. The man suddenly left his vehicle and leapt out of the way. He watched as the train crashed into his SUV, derailed, jackknifed, and hit another train. Railroad cars crumbled. Eleven people were killed and nearly 200 were injured, some gravely. The deranged man was arrested. Whatever troubles had made him suicidal in the first place paled in comparison to the trouble he has now. Iraq is a train wreck. The man who caused it is not in trouble. Tomorrow night he will give his State of the Union speech, and the Washington establishment will applaud him. Tens of thousands of Iraqis are dead. More than 1,400 Americans are dead. An Arab nation is humiliated. Islamic hatred of the West is ignited. The American military is emasculated. Lies define the foreign policy of the United States. On all sides of Operation Iraqi Freedom, there is wreckage. In the center, there are the dead, the maimed, the displaced -- those who will be the ghosts of this war for the rest of their days. All for what? Tomorrow night, like a boy in a bubble, George W. Bush will tell the world it was for freedom. He will claim the Iraqi election as a stamp of legitimacy for his policy, and many people will affirm it as such. Even critics of the war will mute their objections in response to the image of millions of Iraqis going to polling places, as if that act undoes the Bush catastrophe. There is only one way in which the grand claims made by Washington for the weekend voting will be true -- and that is if the elections empower an Iraqi government that moves quickly to repudiate Washington. The only meaning freedom can have in Iraq right now is freedom from the US occupation, which is the ground of disorder. But such an outcome of the elections is not likely. The chaos of a destroyed society leaves every new instrument of governance dependent on the American force, even as the American force shows itself incapable of defending against, much less defeating, the suicide legions. The irony is exquisite. The worse the violence gets, the longer the Americans will claim the right to stay. In that way, the ever more emboldened -- and brutal -- insurgents do Bush's work for him by making it extremely difficult for an authentic Iraqi source of order to emerge. Likewise the elections, which, as universally predicted, have now ratified the country's deadly factionalism. Full blown civil war, if it comes to that, will serve Bush's purpose, too. All the better if Syria and Iran leap into the fray. In such extremity, America's occupation of Iraq will be declared legitimate. America's city-smashing tactics, already displayed in Fallujah, will seem necessary. Further regime change will follow. America's ad hoc Middle East bases, meanwhile, will have become permanent. Iraq will have become America's client state in the world's great oil preserve. Bush's disastrous and immoral war policy will have succeeded, even though no war will have been won. The region's war will be eternal, forever justifying America's presence. Bush's callow hubris will be celebrated as genius. Congress will give the military machine everything it needs to roll on to more elections. These outcomes, of course, presume the ongoing deaths of tens of thousands more men, women, and children. And American soldiers. Something else about that California train wreck strikes me. As news reports suggested, so many passengers were killed and injured because the locomotive was pushing the train from behind, which put the lightweight passenger coaches vulnerably in front. If, instead, the heavy, track-clearing locomotive had been leading and had hit the Jeep, it could have pushed the vehicle aside. The jack-knifing and derailment would not have occurred. The American war machine is like a train running in push-mode, with the engineer safely back away from danger. In the train wreck of Iraq, it is passengers who have borne the brunt. The man with his hand on the throttle couldn't be more securely removed from the terrible consequences of his locomotion. Thus, Bush is like the man who caused the wreck, and like the man who was protected from it. Deranged. Detached. Alive and well in the bubble he calls freedom, receiving applause. James Carroll's column appears regularly in the Globe. His most recent book is Crusade: Chronicles of an Unjust War. © 2005 Boston Globe ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel
[Biofuel] Why the US will not leave Iraq
Asia Times Online Middle East Feb 1, 2005 THE ROVING EYE Why the US will not leave Iraq By Pepe Escobar Shi'ites will be in power in the Arab world for the first time in 14 centuries. So Iraqi elections are indeed historic. But it's not for US President George W Bush to proclaim Sunday's elections a success, even before the results are known: it's for the Iraqi people, those who did and also those who did not vote. The undisputable fact is that apart from the Kurds - who since the first Gulf War in 1991 have lived under American protection - most Iraqis, Sunni or Shi'ite, voter or non-voter, in public or in private, blame the United States for the current chaos and their liberation from electricity, water, jobs and security. History may still reveal the case that Sunday's elections under occupation, with rules established by the occupier, suit everyone except the long-suffering 27 million Iraqis. Up to 8 million Iraqis, about 60% of eligible voters, are believed to have voted nationwide, although this could not be verified. Voters in Shi'ite and Kurdish areas turned out in large numbers. The turnout in Sunni-dominated areas such as Fallujah and Mosul, where the insurgency is strongest, and where Sunni leaders had called for a boycott, was substantially lower. The contenders The White House, the Pentagon and the neo-conservatives were forced - by Shi'ite leader Grand Ayatollah Ali al-Sistani's brilliant brinkmanship - to accept these elections, in which a Shi'ite victory is assured. For many Iraqis, Sunni and Shi'ite, Washington's endgame is not withdrawal, but finding the right proxy government: only the naive may believe that an imperial power would voluntarily abandon the dream scenario of a cluster of military bases planted over virtually unlimited reserves of oil. Washington doesn't even try to disguise it, and in Baghdad, US-appointed interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi is widely referred to as either the man from the Americans or Saddam without a moustache. In these elections, where security was extremely tight - many candidates dared not appear in public for fear of being shot - Allawi benefited from three exclusive assets: name recognition; protection by 1,000 heavily armed guards; and US-sponsored saturation television exposure (although most Iraqis have no electricity at the moment). His campaign slogan was A strong leader for a strong country. Allawi is a secular Shi'ite, but as a former Ba'athist, he also appeals to moderate Sunnis. Asia Times Online sources in Baghdad suggest that the newly elected National Assembly and new government will be very similar to Allawi's: a mix of religious and secular parties, all of them led by former exiles. A Sunni parliamentary quota is almost inevitable, for two reasons: Sunni voter turnout was low; and Sunnis must be represented in the drafting of the new constitution. It's important to remember that the assembly itself will not write the new constitution; instead, it will supervise the drafting committee. So it's imperative that Sunnis are part of the committee, otherwise the constitution may be shot down in the four Iraqi provinces with a Sunni-majority when it is submitted for a referendum next September. The United Iraqi Alliance (UIA), the Sistani-blessed Shi'ite list that will capture most of the popular vote, has officially dropped its demand to negotiate the American departure. This essentially means, from many a Sunni point of view, that the Shi'ites will rely on the Americans to protect them from the Sunni resistance, both secular and Islamist - as well as from the hundreds of thousands of disgruntled, unemployed former Ba'athists who may or may not (yet) be part of the resistance. Ibrahim Jaafari, the official spokesman of the Hezb al-Dawa al-Islamiya party, founded in 1957 (the oldest Iraqi Shi'ite party), the third most popular figure in Iraq after Sistani and Muqtada al-Sadr, the No 2 at the UIA list and a serious contender for becoming the new prime minister, has already spelled it out: If the US pulls out too fast there would be chaos. Jaafari, crucially, also enjoys a lot of respect by moderate Sunnis. Current Finance Minister Adel Abdel Mahdi, a former Maoist and Ba'athist turned free marketer, also a member of the UIA and strong contender for becoming premier, has repeatedly talked about realistic thinking in terms of securing Iraq. Mahdi is very close to some members of the White House's National Security Council. And the prize goes to ... Shi'ites swamped the polls in part because Sistani told them it was a religious duty to vote. It's unclear how far the next Sistani-blessed government will go to dispel the widely-held Sunni perception of the elections as a movie directed by the Americans and packaged to the rest of the world. The Shi'ite leadership at the UIA cannot afford an enduring, widely held Sunni perception of a Washington-Shi'ite alliance.
[Biofuel] Fight Resumes Over Drilling in Alaskan Reserve
News Report Fight Resumes Over Drilling in Alaskan Reserve by NewStandard Staff As the usual senatorial suspects return to the frontlines for another fight over tapping the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve, Republican lawmakers may slip language into other bill to dodge a filibuster. Feb 4 - Noting that a prominent Republican senator harbors plans to use sneaky backdoor politics to end the prohibition on drilling for oil and gas in the pristine North Slope region of Alaska, Democratic lawmakers went on the offensive this week, introducing a preemptive bill that would designate the remaining areas of the contested wildlife refuge officially off-limits to oil drilling. President Bush and congressional conservatives are pushing to permit responsible exploration of the estimated 4-10 billion barrels of oil buried beneath the Coastal Plain, a segment of the Arctic National Wildlife Reserve (ANWR) that was exempted in 1980 when Congress changed most of the Reserve's status to wilderness area, protecting it from exploitation by mining interests. Senators Joe Lieberman (D-Connecticut), Barbara Boxer (D-California) and Representative Ed Markey (D-Massachusetts) on Wednesday addressed a rally organized by environmentalists to announce the re-introduction of a bill that would commit the contested 1.5 million acres as a permanently protected wilderness area called the Udall-Eisenhower Arctic Wilderness. The same bill flopped in 2004. Environmental activists praised the proposed protective legislation. The Refuge serves as the staging area for hundreds of thousands of migratory birds, denning habitat for polar bears, and calving grounds for the 130,000 member Porcupine River caribou herd, Carl Pope, director of the national environment organization Sierra Club, said in a press statement. Moreover, the Refuge plays an integral part in the lives of the Gwich'in people who depend on the seasonal migrations of the caribou for both survival and cultural identity. Environmentalists have for decades successfully pressured enough senators to keep the Coastal Plain protected against numerous attempts to release it to developers, preventing the necessary majority from forming despite yearly support for the change in the House, not to mention the Senate's rightward tilt. Tired of losing to the minority, Senator Pete Domenici of New Mexico -- the top Republican on the Senate's Energy and Natural Resources Committee, who last month vowed to prioritize handing ANWR to developers -- plans to inject language empowering oil companies to engage in limited exploration into the 2006 budget legislation expected to reach Congress any day. According to United Press International, other key Republican senators have not indicated whether they will back Domenici's move to slip the ANWR language into the budget package. While those in favor of drilling in ANWR have touted potential Alaskan energy development as an opportunity to gain American energy independence, environmentalists have warned that the relatively small amount of oil estimated to be available in the refuge is not worth the environmental damage likely to be caused by development of the area. There's simply too much at stake to let this majestic national icon become a number in the federal budget, said Pope. The speculative revenue gains are too small and the sacrifice too great to jeopardize our natural heritage for a short-term supply of oil. If there ever was an occasion to support a filibuster, this is, Lieberman said at the rally. There are not 60 senators who will vote for drilling. A McClatchy Newspapers reporter estimated Wednesday's crowd size at 100. While Democrats can use a filibuster to halt stand-alone legislation or an energy bill opening up ANWR, the budget package will only require a simple majority vote, and opposing budget legislation is considered politically dangerous. Sponsors of the bill to reclaim the Coastal Plain area as specially protected wilderness are calling their proposal bipartisan because at least one Republican member is backing each chamber's version, but analysts do not expect the bill to serve more than a symbolic purpose. © 2005 The NewStandard Online sources used in this news report: Associated Press: Top Republican on energy makes ANWR first priority McClatchy Newspapers: Lawmakers, others vow to block ANWR drilling United Press International: Budget may hold key to ANWR Associated Press: Battle over oil drilling in arctic refuge heats up Sierra Club: Sierra Club Welcomes Timely Introduction of Bill to Designate ANWR As Wilderness ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Following the Food Chain with Michael Pollan
Michael Pollan on Food Chains, Dead Zones, and Licensed Journalism Interview by Russell Schoch The first time I opened Peter Singer's Animal Liberation, I was dining alone at the Palm, trying to enjoy a rib-eye steak cooked medium rare. The Palm is a restaurant known for its beef, the sentence is the opening of an article in the New York Times Magazine, and the author, Michael Pollan, is now a professor of journalism at Berkeley. The sentence shows how Pollan works as a writer. He doesn't lecture or assume a superior position; instead, with a comic juxtaposition, he places himself (and, by extension, the reader) directly inside a cognitive dilemma, setting up a tension for the article to resolve. Pollan finished the steak, and continues to eat meat, although his prime choice is grass-fed beef rather than animals that have been stuffed with corn, antibiotics, and hormones. Pollan writes what he calls food detective stories, but the way he stalks his prey sets him apart from others who write about our palate and plate. For an article about genetically modified food, for instance, his first step was to plant Monsanto's genetically modified NewLeaf potato in his garden. He then went to St. Louis to interview the folks at Monsanto, and to Idaho to talk to potato farmers. He called the FDA and the EPA, and interviewed people like Richard Lewontin, the Harvard critic of biotechnology. He read and admired scholarly articles, including The Potato in the Materialist Imagination (by Berkeley English professor Catherine Gallagher). He then mixed all of this, and much more, into a wonderful narrative stew, all the while continuing to tend his patch of potatoes, both old and NewLeaf. At the end, he had to decide whether or not to eat the Monsanto potato. The article's last sentence: I choose not. Pollan has chosen to wander between his study and the garden and into the world beyond in numerous articles and three books: Second Nature: A Gardener's Education (1991), A Place of My Own: The Education of an Amateur Builder (1997), and The Botany of Desire: A Plant's-Eye View of the World (2001). A former editor at Harper's magazine, and since 1995 a contributing writer for the New York Times Magazine, he was named Knight Professor of Journalism at Berkeley in 2003. While Pollan likes to get involved in what he writes about, he's never far from the library. He took up gardening and building in part because of the delicious reading that both activities would bring into his hands. His library research produces fascinating facts. The broomstick that witches are said to ride, he tells us in The Botany of Desire, was actually a dildo used to insert intoxicants from the witches' brew, which very likely made them fly. That's why I don't write fiction, Pollan says. You can't invent things like that. As readers of Second Nature know, Pollan grew up on Long Island, the oldest of four children (he has three sisters). His mother, Corky, spent 17 years editing Best Bets at New York magazine and now serves as style editor of Gourmet magazine. Michael describes his father, Stephen, as one of the world's great indoorsmen. Stephen is also a best-selling writer, co-author of such books as Die Broke and How to Fire Your Boss, which come off the presses at the rate of one a year. Asked if he and his father ever discuss their craft, Michael says: Yes. My father asks: 'Why do you take so long to write your books?' I answer: 'Because I write them myself!' Pollan earned his B.A. in English at Bennington College in Vermont, spent a year studying literature at Oxford, and received a master's degree in English literature at Columbia University in 1981. He then took what he calls a major personal gamble--betting that he could write meaningfully about American culture, and in particular our relation to nature, as a journalist rather than as an English professor. After working on several start-up magazines, in 1983 he was hired by Harper's editor Lewis Lapham to help overhaul the publication. Pollan started out as senior editor responsible for Harper's Index and the magazine's Readings section. The magazine won six National Magazine Awards during his tenure, which included ten years as executive editor. In The Botany of Desire -- a literary, philosophical, and social history of the apple, the tulip, marijuana, and the genetically modified potato -- Pollan describes John Chapman (Johnny Appleseed) as an American Dionysus, innocent and mild, but with more than a hint of eccentricity: He had the thick bark of queerness on him, as a biographer cited by Pollan notes. These all could be descriptions of Pollan's own sensibility. His writing displays an innocence tempered with knowledge of the world, and a mildness that has been forged out of various kinds of wildness. Streaks of eccentricity and extravagance (which etymologically means to wander off a path or cross a line, Pollan
[Biofuel] WSF: The Consensus of Porto Alegre?
Inter Press Service News Agency WORLD SOCIAL FORUM: The Consensus of Porto Alegre? Debra Anthony and Jos Antnio Silva* - IPSTerraViva In a bold break with the concept of the World Social Forum as a horizontal, open space, a group of personalities draft a programme and urge participants to approve it PORTO ALEGRE, Brazil, Jan 30 (IPS) - The fifth World Social Forum, the giant civil society gathering under way in the southern Brazilian city of Porto Alegre through Jan. 31, may mark a turning point in WSF history. It might have been out of frustration, or perhaps a sincere desire to help. Whatever the motivation, 19 high-profile WSF activists spent a day and a half hammering out a Consensus for a conference that prides itself on not producing any. They presented the World Social Forum with a blueprint document outlining main themes and called on the other 120,000 participants to sign on to it. The move is likely to unleash speculations of all kinds about the purposes of this new group, most of whom are founders of the WSF and International Committee (IC) members. Among notable non-signatories are Brazilian IC members Candido Grzybowski and Francisco (Chico) Whitaker. The latter played down the importance of the document, likening it to dozens, maybe hundreds of other proposals presented during this fifth edition of the WSF. He admitted that the Manifesto, endorsed by a group that include two Nobel Prize winners, carries considerable weight, but it does not generate consensus. But the G-19 thinks differently. Now, nobody can say that we have no programme. Now we have the Porto Alegre Consensus and we are sure -- we're confident -- that the great majority of the people of the Forum will agree with this proposal, says Ignacio Ramonet, editor of Le Monde Diplomatique, president of Media Watch Global and one of the 19 who toiled to bring this apparent gift of coherency to the WSF. Launched late Saturday at the Hotel Plaza San Rafael -- away from the World Social Territory, a Brazilian official duly noted -- the Porto Alegre Manifesto is a 12-point document that highlights the main themes discussed at WSF 2005. It's a synthesis of what the WSF is proposing globally, Ramonet said. It's not possible to continue to say 'another world is possible' if we do not make some proposals about how to reach this other world, added Ricardo Petrella, one of the presenters at the press conference, referring to the motto of the WSF since its inception in 2001. The points include debt cancellation, adoption of the Tobin tax on international financial transfers, dismantling of tax havens, the promotion of equitable forms of trade, a guarantee on the sovereignty of a country's right to not only be able to produce affordable food for its citizens, but also to police its food supply; the implementation of anti-discrimination polices for minorities and women, and democratisation of international organisations, which would include moving the United Nations headquarters far South of its current New York location. Journalists were told that despite what it looked like, there was no change in the methodology of the WSF. Those who formulated the document were only trying to help. We are only trying to open the debate, to stimulate the establishment of international cooperative alliances, said Petrella. Speaking to TerraViva after the conference ended, he did not say when the document was prepared, but noted that the timing of its release showed that it was not an attempt to force any agenda on the WSF. If it had been released at the beginning it would have been interpreted as a proposal for discussion, he said. As it is now, as described by its framers, it is merely a base to help conference participants focus on the matter at hand. The first signatories to the Manifesto include Aminata Traor, Adolfo Prez Esquivel, Eduardo Galeano, Jos Saramago, Franois Houtart, Boaventura de Sousa Santos, Armand Mattelart, Roberto Savio, Riccardo Petrella, Ignacio Ramonet, Bernard Cassen, Samir Amin, Atilio Boron, Samuel Ruiz Garcia, Tariq Ali, Frei Betto, Emir Sader, Walden Bello, and Immanuel Wallerstein. Whitaker urged the signatories to join those posting their ideas on the Proposals Wall inside the Forum venue. These walls are gathering dozens of proposals, priority lists and actions, some vague and some very profound and all must be presented. For its proponents, this Manifesto represents the courageous, bold step necessary to convert the WSF into an effective political force for global change. To others, as one Brazilian official told TerraViva, it is just the same old celebrities who cannot swallow being part of the masses they once led. (END/2005) ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
[Biofuel] No Tomorrow
No Tomorrow Bill Moyers One of the biggest changes in politics in my lifetime is that the delusional is no longer marginal. It has come in from the fringe, to sit in the seat of power in the Oval Office and in Congress. For the first time in our history, ideology and theology hold a monopoly of power in Washington. Theology asserts propositions that cannot be proven true; ideologues hold stoutly to a worldview despite being contradicted by what is generally accepted as reality. When ideology and theology couple, their offspring are not always bad but they are always blind. And there is the danger: voters and politicians alike, oblivious to the facts. Remember James Watt, President Ronald Reagan's first secretary of the interior? My favorite online environmental journal, the ever-engaging Grist, reminded us recently of how James Watt told the U.S. Congress that protecting natural resources was unimportant in light of the imminent return of Jesus Christ. In public testimony he said, after the last tree is felled, Christ will come back. Beltway elites snickered. The press corps didn't know what he was talking about. But James Watt was serious. So were his compatriots out across the country. They are the people who believe the Bible is literally true - one-third of the American electorate, if a recent Gallup poll is accurate. In this past election several million good and decent citizens went to the polls believing in the rapture index. That's right - the rapture index. Google it and you will find that the best-selling books in America today are the 12 volumes of the Left Behind series written by the Christian fundamentalist and religious-right warrior Timothy LaHaye. These true believers subscribe to a fantastical theology concocted in the 19th century by a couple of immigrant preachers who took disparate passages from the Bible and wove them into a narrative that has captivated the imagination of millions of Americans. Its outline is rather simple, if bizarre (the British writer George Monbiot recently did a brilliant dissection of it and I am indebted to him for adding to my own understanding): Once Israel has occupied the rest of its biblical lands, legions of the antichrist will attack it, triggering a final showdown in the valley of Armageddon. As the Jews who have not been converted are burned, the messiah will return for the rapture. True believers will be lifted out of their clothes and transported to Heaven, where, seated next to the right hand of God, they will watch their political and religious opponents suffer plagues of boils, sores, locusts and frogs during the several years of tribulation that follow. I'm not making this up. Like Monbiot, I've read the literature. I've reported on these people, following some of them from Texas to the West Bank. They are sincere, serious and polite as they tell you they feel called to help bring the rapture on as fulfillment of biblical prophecy. That's why they have declared solidarity with Israel and the Jewish settlements and backed up their support with money and volunteers. It's why the invasion of Iraq for them was a warm-up act, predicted in the Book of Revelations where four angels which are bound in the great river Euphrates will be released to slay the third part of man. A war with Islam in the Middle East is not something to be feared but welcomed - an essential conflagration on the road to redemption. The last time I Googled it, the rapture index stood at 144 - just one point below the critical threshold when the whole thing will blow, the son of God will return, the righteous will enter Heaven and sinners will be condemned to eternal hellfire. So what does this mean for public policy and the environment? Go to Grist to read a remarkable work of reporting by the journalist Glenn Scherer - The Road to Environmental Apocalypse. Read it and you will see how millions of Christian fundamentalists may believe that environmental destruction is not only to be disregarded but actually welcomed - even hastened - as a sign of the coming apocalypse. As Grist makes clear, we're not talking about a handful of fringe lawmakers who hold or are beholden to these beliefs. Nearly half the U.S. Congress before the recent election - 231 legislators in total and more since the election - are backed by the religious right. Forty-five senators and 186 members of the 108th Congress earned 80 to 100 percent approval ratings from the three most influential Christian right advocacy groups. They include Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, Assistant Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, Conference Chair Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, Policy Chair Jon Kyl of Arizona, House Speaker Dennis Hastert and Majority Whip Roy Blunt. The only Democrat to score 100 percent with the Christian coalition was Sen. Zell Miller of Georgia, who recently quoted from the biblical book of Amos on the Senate floor:
Re: [Biofuel] U.S., Islam, and Religion
Hi, Huge Snip Yes, VERY many! And I don't believe you're passive about it, and not without any effect. Your sister's not alone in wanting to leave, and certainly not to be blamed for it either (not that I could blame anyone for such a thing, with all my comings and goings for most of my life!). But think of what Hakan's just been telling Luc about how many other Iraqis one dead Iraqi will influence - one living American who feels strongly about these things, even if she moves to Europe, will influence just as many others: that's not to say convince, necessarily, but influence, sway, yes. And there are many millions of you. That has me wondering how many people about the world the almost 3000 members of this List influence. Well, this is what Hakan said: If you look at behavioral statistics for the humans, the mathematics goes like this, - On average a person will have and can manage around 10 very close relationship on the level of family and relatives. The 300,000 killed, represent 3 million who lost a family member, killed by US. If anyone killed members of your family, how good is the chance that you are more inclined to join the resistance, instead of giving the killers your hearts and mind? - On average a person have around 30 close friends, with frequent contacts. The 300,00 killed, represent that around 9 million people lost a friend, killed by US. If anyone killed your friend, how good is the chance that you are more inclined to join the resistance, instead of giving the killers your hearts and mind? - On average a person have around 60 people, that he/she know and have infrequent contacts with. The 300,000 killed, represent that around 18 million people knew someone killed by US. If anyone killed someone you knew, how good is the chance that you are more inclined to join the resistance, instead of giving the killers your hearts and mind? If you only think about the above, almost all Iraqis have been touched by a killing performed by US ... I'm sure Hakan's got it right, as usual. I read once that if four people sat down together at a table, between them, and the people they knew, and the people *they* knew, and so on and on, they were connected with everyone in the world... and I could never figure out whether that was far-fetched or not. Maybe not. Change only takes a few, and they're always there and ready for it when the time comes, when the time is right society responds and is renewed. Or as Margaret Mead said (and Toynbee, and Jung): Never underestimate the power of a small group of individuals to change the world. In fact, it is the only thing that ever has. We can but hope. Regards Keith Derek Hargis Best wishes Keith robert luis rabello ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] Australia Adopts GM Cotton but is it Wise?
Science Society Sustainability http://www.i-sis.org.uk ISIS Press Release 03/02/05 Updated Version Australia Adopts GM Cotton but is it Wise? The moratorium on GM canola holds but Bt cotton slips through. mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]Sam Burcher http://www.i-sis.org.uk/full/AustraliaGMCottonFull.phpSources for this report are available in the ISIS members site. Full details http://www.i-sis.org.uk/membership.phphere Monsanto's single and double gene cotton Bt ( bacillus thuringiensis ) cotton has been grown in Australia since 1996. Varieties have either one or two genetically modified inserts that provide separate proteins to kill off pests (see ãGM cotton that people forgotä, this series). The first to be planted was Monsanto's Ingard, with one gene, which was restricted to 30% of the total acreage under cotton, and confined to the cooler climes of Queensland and New South Wales. But after six seasons of growing Ingard, the insects showed early signs of tolerance to Bt, and Ingard had to be withdrawn. A second strain Bollgard II, with an additional protein to help improve insect control, has replaced the single gene variety. Applications have been granted to expand GM cotton production to parts of the country where it was previously prohibited because of concerns of cross-contamination with native cotton species. Both Ingard and Bollgard contain the Bt toxin Cry1Ac construct 531. Studies have proved that this unpredictable gene expresses itself randomly in different part of the plant and at different levels throughout a season. For example, terminal leaves express more endotoxins than flowers and expression levels can decline as a plant ages. Reports of Ingard's performance as being insect resistant have been described as ãvariableä and in areas where insect pressure is intense as ãvery disappointing.ä This correlates with findings by ISIS. See (More on Bt Resistance, http://www.i- sis.org.uk/MoreBtresistance.phphttp://www.i- sis.org.uk/MoreBtresistance.php ) Monsanto claims that the current 30% cap on GM cotton could be lifted to as much as 80% of total acreage in 2004/5 by the expansion plans. Bollgard II has already been approved in southern Queensland and northern New South Wales and awaits approval in northern Australia where no cotton is grown at present. Industry claims that the northern Australian cotton may not need any chemical sprays. But this is refuted by extensive experience that shows supplemental insecticides such as organophosphates have been used in a number of GM cotton fields to control Bt resistant Helicoverpa caterpillar larvae. GM cotton fails to improve yields and decreases profits Julie Newman from the Network of Concerned Farmers ( http://www.non-gm-farmers.com/www.non-gm- farmers.com ) says, ãThe misleading propaganda involved with promoting GM is nothing short of appalling. Australian farmers are told GM has a far superior yield when there is no evidence and no reason to presume this. We are told that there will be a reduction in costs when the little information available reveals a significant increase in costs to all farmers. We are told that there is no market risk when there is evidence that there is significant market risk for a range of our products. Again, the GM industry has been launching a concerted effort to discredit any alternative voice and quashing any adverse reports while refusing to submit the data required to support their claims.ä In 2001 /2, GM cotton was grown on165 000 hectares in Australia, the third largest exporter of cotton after the US and China, with an annual $1.7 billion accruing from the crop . Some 90% of Australia's cotton is exported to Malaysia each year. Australian farmers who adopted GM cotton have seen yields remain constant at 7- 8tonnes/ha, while average operating profits fell from around $155 in 1995 to $60 in 2001 . That is because the price for cotton plummeted by almost 40% during the same period. A further loss for Australian cotton farmers is a $155/ha ãtechnology feeä that ha s to be paid to Monsanto. In the US and China, cotton farmers receive up to one third to one half of the returns from government subsidies, but Australian farmers do not. Monsanto has aggressively pushed GM cotton worldwide. In 1998 , 41 000 hectares were grown in Mexico, and 12 000 hectares grown in South Africa. Farmers in West Africa are being encouraged to use a combination of GM cottonseeds for planting initial crops, but it is essential that these poor farmers are able to keep seeds for subsequent sowing. As Monsanto insists on a very strict growing regime, farmers in Africa may be tempted to use easily available, old and extremely toxic insecticides if Bt fails. Monsanto also markets glyphosate resistant Round Up Ready cotton to manage weeds by overspraying the whole crop with Roundup herbicide. Monsanto claims that demands for Roundup cotton by growers increased by 40
[Biofuel] Global warming: scientists reveal timetable
bottom-lines, campaign contributions, votes-that-count and other really important things like that? - K http://news.independent.co.uk/world/environment/story.jsp?story=607254 News Global warming: scientists reveal timetable By Michael McCarthy, Environment Correspondent 03 February 2005 A detailed timetable of the destruction and distress that global warming is likely to cause the world was unveiled yesterday. It pulls together for the first time the projected impacts on ecosystems and wildlife, food production, water resources and economies across the earth, for given rises in global temperature expected during the next hundred years. The resultant picture gives the most wide-ranging impression yet of the bewildering array of destructive effects that climate change is expected to exert on different regions, from the mountains of Europe and the rainforests of the Amazon to the coral reefs of the tropics. Produced through a synthesis of a wide range of recent academic studies, it was presented as a paper yesterday to the international conference on climate change being held at the UK Met Office headquarters in Exeter by the author Bill Hare, of the Potsdam Institute for Climate Impact Research, Germany's leading global warming research institute. The conference has been called personally by Tony Blair as part of Britain's attempts to move the climate change issue up the agenda during the current UK presidency of the G8 group of rich nations, and the European Union. It has already heard disturbing warnings from the latest climate research, including the revelation on Tuesday from the British Antarctic Survey that the massive West Antarctic ice sheet might be disintegrating - an event which, if it happened completely, would raise sea levels around the world by 16ft (4.9 metres). Dr Hare's timetable shows the impacts of climate change multiplying rapidly as average global temperature goes up, towards 1C above levels before the industrial revolution, then to 2C, and then 3C. As present world temperatures are already 0.7C above the pre-industrial level, the process is well under way. In the near future - the next 25 years - as the temperature climbs to the 1C mark, some specialised ecosystems will start to feel stress, such as the tropical highland forests of Queensland, which contain a large number of Australia's endemic plant species, and the succulent karoo plant region of South Africa. In some developing countries, food production will start to decline, water shortage problems will worsen and there will be net losses in GDP. It is when the temperature moves up to 2C above the pre-industrial level, expected in the middle of this century - within the lifetime of many people alive today - that serious effects start to come thick and fast, studies suggest. Substantial losses of Arctic sea ice will threaten species such as polar bears and walruses, while in tropical regions bleaching of coral reefs will become more frequent - when the animals that live in the coral are forced out by high temperatures and the reef may die. Mediterranean regions will be hit by more forest fires and insect pests, while in regions of the US such as the Rockies, rivers may become too warm for trout and salmon. In South Africa, the Fynbos, the world's most remarkable floral kingdom which has more than 8,000 endemic wild flowers, will start to lose its species, as will alpine areas from Europe to Australia; the broad-leaved forests of China will start to die. The numbers at risk from hunger will increase and another billion and a half people will face water shortages, and GDP losses in some developing countries will become significant. But when the temperature moves up to the 3C level, expected in the early part of the second half of the century, these effects will become critical. There is likely to be irreversible damage to the Amazon rainforest, leading to its collapse, and the complete destruction of coral reefs is likely to be widespread. The alpine flora of Europe, Australia and New Zealand will probably disappear completely, with increasing numbers of extinctions of other plant species. There will be severe losses of China's broadleaved forests, and in South Africa the flora of the Succulent Karoo will be destroyed, and the flora of the Fynbos will be hugely damaged. There will be a rapid increase in populations exposed to hunger, with up to 5.5 billion people living in regions with large losses in crop production, while another 3 billion people will have increased risk of water shortages. Above the 3C raised level, which may be after 2070, the effects will be catastrophic: the Arctic sea ice will disappear, and species such as polar bears and walruses may disappear with it, while the main prey species of Arctic carnivores, such as wolves, Arctic foxes and the collared lemming, will have gone from 80 per cent of their range, critically
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
The reason why I keep reading it is you keep saying that there is something of content there... so I keep trying to find it. No luck so far. The honesty of the webpage author is not what is in question. What is in question is your statement that the beads don't do anything. I have seen nothing that would make me trust the webpage, but I have seen nothing to demonstrate that EVERYTHING on the webpage is untrue. I would not buy a car from them, but I would not make claims about the beads without anything to back them up. In doing so you reduce your credibility down to their level. Is that what you want? Andy On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:52:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Keith, I have read those (several times already) Why? Wouldn't once have done? and they provided inconsistancies and flat out wrong information on the website. I am just not getting where you can jump from some of the information is wrong to all of the information is wrong. Just because the website overstates itself DOESN'T mean that there isn't any foundation in truth. One person not getting it to work using an unknown method does not mean that the beads do not do anything. There are compounds that will remove water and FFA from vegoil and meet most of the claims from the site. For all I know they could be no better than activated alumina F200 beads that will absorb the FFA and H2O. All I am saying is that there is not enough information to claim that they don't do anything. Do you have anything else to show they do not work? How do you manage so seamlessly and with apparent conviction to morph what is outright lying into mere overstates itself (which you've said twice now)? You'd buy a second-hand car from these guys? Well, go ahead. Keith Andy On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:22:57 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Andy, do you really only go one level deep? Even M$ Explorer can do better than that (well, the Macintosh version can anyway - not that I ever use it). 43433 says: User report: STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..the pumps work well but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, same with the biopass filter...STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..!!! No details, therefore useless. 37536 says: Okay Let me spell it out for you then. A mere three lines down, 37536 says this - they're links, click on them. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/14806/ Accusorb beads http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/26341/ Back yard Bio-Diesel chemists are playing with a toxic time bomb Once you've done that and read what will thus be revealed, then maybe you'll see why I said this: What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Useless? If you say so. Up to you of course, play with beads and mirrors if you like. Keith The same thing, a quote from Adlai Meredith No details, therefore useless. Following the link here is follow-up post by Meredith: Here she states I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry). With that statement and references to use of hydrogenated oil I really question the way they were used. For all I can tell, they didn't drive off the water before using them and tried to use it to add double bonds to the oils. http://www.forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3243 UPDATE: In all fairness to the manufacturer, I will state that Bob Green has been extremely timely with his response to both our emails. Here is his latest response: Sounds like you picked the wrong type of oil to recycle. Sound like mcdonalds grease. some oils are so badly hydrogenated they never get clear. The best you can do is ad 50% diesel and get them thin enough to flow properly. Try getting some good used soy from a Chinese restaurant or a fish and chips place. Those types of oils are easier to work with than the hydrogenated stuff you have. Margarine starts out as a clear thin oil (corn oil) and THEN they Hydrogenate it until it gets thick and cloudy and presto you have margarine. Some restaurants only use hydrogenated oils and it best to stay away from those types of oils. If you have use this stuff you have you will have to use a 50/50 ratio of Diesel to oil. Do yourself a favor and try to find some other oil sources. The stuff you have is the worst type to work with!!! Regards Bob Green We will try some different oil when we get a chance. I guess
Re: [Biofuel] Methanol Recovery
Reverse osmosis could remove the methanol from the glycerine. You just need to find a membrane with a housing that is resistant to methanol. Andy On Sat, 05 Feb 2005 10:16:24 +1100, Andrew Lowe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ken Provost wrote: on 2/4/05 5:41 AM, Legal Eagle at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: G'day; I have just completed a simple condenser for methanol recovery, however I am still left with a question. Do I need to bring the glycerine to a rolling boil or just bring up the heat sufficiently to get the methanol to evaporate (148.5F/65C) not necessarily boiling ? That depends on the exact shape of the boiling pot/chamber and still head, but my concentrating solar still used to start getting methanol in the condenser coil ONLY when the glycerine was simmering. The question is -- how rapidly does vapor have to be produced to overcome the rate that it condenses before reaching the downhill side of your setup. -K I can remember people mentioning other equipment besides stills for the removal of the methanol, words I can remember include thin film, evaporators, vacumn etc etc. Can anyone provide a few buzz words, or links, that I should look for if I want to do a slightly larger BioD unit, 20 Kl/week, and do methanol recovery. Any thoughts greatly appreciated, Andrew Lowe ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
What if someone ran into you doing 100MPH. Would you want justice to be done (would your family?) Forcing people to be responsible for their irresponsibility is refreshing to me. -- Martin K http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/ Greg Harbican wrote: One of the reasons I like older vehicles. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Legal Eagle [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 08:11 Subject: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1id=75424 Your car is most likely recording things about your driving and that information can be used against you if you have a traffic accident. Most people don't know their car has a black box. They are similar to ones in airplanes, although they don't record voices, but they do record plenty of other things that happen before a crash. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] A library on biodiesel
Thanks for these. They're a bit hard to find though, very ponderous search system. Here are some direct links to the pdf's. Pity about pdf's, real web-clutter, but still... Biodiesel Production Technology, 2004 106 pp http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/36244.pdf Biodiesel Analytical Methods, 2004, 95 pp http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/36240.pdf Business Management for Biodiesel Producers, 2004, 206 pp http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/36242.pdf Biodiesel Handling and Use Guidelines, 2004 60pp http://www.nrel.gov/vehiclesandfuels/npbf/pdfs/tp36182.pdf Biodiesel Blends in Space Heating Equipment, 2004 26 pp http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy04osti/33579.pdf NOx Solutions for Biodiesel, 2003 40 pp http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/31465.pdf Impact of Biodiesel Fuels on Air Quality and Human Health: Summary Report; September 16, 1999--January 31, 2003 http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/33793.pdf Impact of Biodiesel Fuels on Air Quality and Human Health: Task 2 Report; The Impact of Biodiesel Fuels on Ozone Concentrations http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/33795.pdf Impact of Biodiesel Fuels on Air Quality and Human Health: Task 4 Report; Impacts of Biodiesel Fuel Use on PM http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy03osti/33797.pdf The government has been working for years to do worthwhile research and publications on biodiesel developments. In the past two years, the National Renewable Energy laboratory has published a series of valuable monographs on this topic. I recommend everyone interested in biodiesel developments download these free publications. All of these, and many more, can be obtained free from http://www.osti.gov/bridge I found these to be the most useful. Anyone like some others? Such as? Regards Keith Titles: Biodiesel Production Technology, 2004 106 pp Biodiesel Analytical Methods, 2004, 95 pp Business Management for Biodiesel Producers, 2004, 206 pp Biodiesel Handling and Use Guidelines, 2004 60pp Biodiesel Blends in Space Heating Equipment, 2004 26 pp NOx Solutions for Biodiesel, 2003 40 pp Impact of Biodiesel Fuels on Air Quality, 2003 45 pp Tom Leue ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] re: Bill Clark and Acusorb Beads
something of content there... so I keep trying to find it. No luck so far. Uh-huh. Keep trying then. The honesty of the webpage author is not what is in question. No? I beg to differ. What is in question is your statement that the beads don't do anything. Ah, so it's my honesty that's in question? How about your honesty? You're misquoting me, for a start. I didn't say the beads don't do anything, I said: It's a no-no, and so are they. And if that isn't quite obvious to you by now after your multiple readings of it, then maybe I SHOULD SWITCH TO ALL-CAPITALS AND OFFER YOU A 25% SHARE IN THIS $45 MILLION DOLLARS MY DEAR OLD GRANDFATHER LEFT ME IF ONLY YOU'LL HELP ME GET IT OUT OF THE COUNTRY. I have seen nothing that would make me trust the webpage, but I have seen nothing to demonstrate that EVERYTHING on the webpage is untrue. No doubt Bush and Co. did at some stage say something about Iraq that wasn't an outright lie, perhaps inadvertently, like maybe that it was in the Middle East or something, and you'd buy their war on the strength of that? I would not buy a car from them, but I would not make claims about the beads without anything to back them up. You're quite sure I don't have anything to back it up? In doing so you reduce your credibility down to their level. Aarghhh!!! The heavens forfend! LOL! Is that what you want? ... On the other hand I'm not trying to flog you a used car, nor beads and mirrors, nor anything else either. But, if you say so Andy, just as long as you're happy. I'll leave you to it. Keith Andy On Sun, 6 Feb 2005 00:52:27 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Andy Keith, I have read those (several times already) Why? Wouldn't once have done? and they provided inconsistancies and flat out wrong information on the website. I am just not getting where you can jump from some of the information is wrong to all of the information is wrong. Just because the website overstates itself DOESN'T mean that there isn't any foundation in truth. One person not getting it to work using an unknown method does not mean that the beads do not do anything. There are compounds that will remove water and FFA from vegoil and meet most of the claims from the site. For all I know they could be no better than activated alumina F200 beads that will absorb the FFA and H2O. All I am saying is that there is not enough information to claim that they don't do anything. Do you have anything else to show they do not work? How do you manage so seamlessly and with apparent conviction to morph what is outright lying into mere overstates itself (which you've said twice now)? You'd buy a second-hand car from these guys? Well, go ahead. Keith Andy On Sat, 5 Feb 2005 05:22:57 +0900, Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Wow, Andy, do you really only go one level deep? Even M$ Explorer can do better than that (well, the Macintosh version can anyway - not that I ever use it). 43433 says: User report: STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..the pumps work well but you can find them cheaper elsewhere, same with the biopass filter...STAY AWAY FROM THE BEADS..!!! No details, therefore useless. 37536 says: Okay Let me spell it out for you then. A mere three lines down, 37536 says this - they're links, click on them. http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/14806/ Accusorb beads http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/BIOFUEL/26341/ Back yard Bio-Diesel chemists are playing with a toxic time bomb Once you've done that and read what will thus be revealed, then maybe you'll see why I said this: What it tells you about the website itself should give you some indication of what they're trying to sell, quite apart from all the sneers at stupid people trying to make that awful stuff known as biodiesel. Naah. It's a no-no, and so are they. Useless? If you say so. Up to you of course, play with beads and mirrors if you like. Keith The same thing, a quote from Adlai Meredith No details, therefore useless. Following the link here is follow-up post by Meredith: Here she states I by no means understand the whole chemical side of fuels or biodiesel (okay I barely passed chemistry). With that statement and references to use of hydrogenated oil I really question the way they were used. For all I can tell, they didn't drive off the water before using them and tried to use it to add double bonds to the oils. http://www.forums.biodieselnow.com/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=3243 UPDATE: In all fairness to the manufacturer, I will state that Bob Green has been extremely timely with his response to both our emails. Here is his latest response: Sounds like you picked the wrong
[Biofuel] New method for the production of home made bio-diesel
Hello, I would like to try making bio-diesel. I've been reading as much material as I can find on the topic, but have not been able to find some key bits of information. I was hoping people on this list might know some of the answers or be able to point me to other resources. Right now I am interested in a very specific development path. Biodiesel can be made today in a variety of ways with published recipes, unfortunately they do not include the materials I plan to use. Algae are the planned source of hydrocarbons. I choose algae for a couple of reasons. In some of the material I have read, algae were identified as a much richer source of hydrocarbons than traditional seed stock (i.e. oil created per acre by algae vs. a seed stock). Algae can be used to treat sewage, so a large scale implementation could serve multiple purposes. Algae can be grown in fresh or salt water. Algae can be grown successfully in environments that are unsuitable for other plant life (i.e. hot desert adjacent to the ocean). Another very important reason for me to start with algae is the fact that I can grow it! I have several fish tanks and normally algae are something I limit through the use of snails, clams and zebra mussels. I do not know how much algae can be grown in a 55 gallon tank, but, I have the tank and can use it to start experimenting. The oil needs to be extracted from the algae. I am thinking I will need a press and follow a process that is similar to that used with seeds. I do not know what press to use, or how I will separate the algae from tank water and prepare it for pressing. One of the objectives for creating this method is to find a way to produce the biodiesel without purchasing any the source materials. Algae can be grown. Then I need lye. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_ashlye.html I was very happy when I found this. Hard wood ash, I have trees, I can make ash. A quote from the biodiesel page on journeytoforever: One more complication -- check the purity of your KOH, it's generally not as pure as NaOH. Anhydrous grade KOH flake is usually about 92%, sometimes less -- check the label. We use half-pearls assayed at 85%. Adjust the basic quantity accordingly: the basic 4.9 grams would be 5.8 (5.775) grams for 85% KOH, or 5.3 (5.33) grams for 92% KOH. How would I measure the purity of the lye that is created from wood ash and then adjust the formula? Thank you for the assistance, O'Neil. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[Biofuel] very dark biodiesel
hello, keith, jd,fox,eagle and all. i apologize for not being very outgoign and not posting anything else besides help requests... i would like to interact and feedback the list , but i don't have anything to say yet.. i can explain to you that i am in mexico. and wvo here is really wvo... really burned... there are no regulations that control when to change the oil in the fryer.. it is so heavily used,, that some carnitas taco shops... sell their used oil.. for people to take it home with them and cook with that oil , and get the original taste... they deep fry fish tacos , in melted, solid pork lard.. it is impressive.. mexico is a fine country .. exept for the lack of order.. we have natural resources galore... but will soon end if not taken care of... i am sorry keith... if i bothered you.. was not my intention... as you can imagine... the first batches are very intriguing.. and the only thing a newbie wants.. is help.. anyways.. thanks a lot for the info , on washing the bioD with salty water... and keeping control of all variables.. mixing time.and such,,, the more i do test batches, the more i realize how important it is to follow insructions to the letter.. i hae two wvo.. one solid and one liquid... both give me dark fuel... but then again .. i do not have proper equipment... to mix for such a long time.. and.. my flasks are contaminated surely... what can i clean them with? best.. anibal. and sorry and thanks to every body and to keith for having such an amazing website. :) anibal ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] very dark biodiesel
hello, keith, jd,fox,eagle and all. i apologize for not being very outgoign and not posting anything else besides help requests... i would like to interact and feedback the list , but i don't have anything to say yet.. I think you do. See below. i can explain to you that i am in mexico. and wvo here is really wvo... really burned... there are no regulations that control when to change the oil in the fryer.. it is so heavily used,, that some carnitas taco shops... sell their used oil.. for people to take it home with them and cook with that oil , and get the original taste... they deep fry fish tacos , in melted, solid pork lard.. it is impressive.. mexico is a fine country .. exept for the lack of order.. we have natural resources galore... but will soon end if not taken care of... i am sorry keith... if i bothered you.. was not my intention... You didn't bother me, I don't take things personally. But I'm the list owner, or founder, moderator, steward, skivvy, or whatever you want to call it, I have to keep it running smoothly and try to make sure that everybody gets the best use out of it. That's why I said this: A lot of people have responded to your questions and given you a lot of help and advice, but you do not respond to them, nor even acknowledge it other than a generalised thanks (for exactly what nobody knows except you). Please respond to the replies your questions get on the list - response and feedback is required, especially if you want to go on getting help. If it appears that you simply take no notice of people, they won't respond to you anymore. That's not how a discussion works when you're talking with your friends, why would you think it works that way here? So please try to be more responsive, you'll benefit, everyone will benefit. For instance, I asked you some questions in response to one of your previous posts, and I gave you quite a lot of information, but I really did get the impression that you took no notice. If I got that impression, probably others who've responded to you felt the same. That was this post, by the way: http://wwia.org/pipermail/biofuel/Week-of-Mon-20050131/005292.html [Biofuel] water wash emulsification If you'd replied to the questions, we'd have had a lot more information on just what you're doing and it would have been much easier to help you. Maybe you'll answer them now? as you can imagine... the first batches are very intriguing.. No need to imagine it, I remember it well! and the only thing a newbie wants.. is help.. anyways.. thanks a lot for the info , on washing the bioD with salty water... Hm, maybe - it shouldn't be necessary. The previous post linked above on water wash emulsification deals with salt too, and other, probably better, methods. and keeping control of all variables.. mixing time.and such,,, the more i do test batches, the more i realize how important it is to follow insructions to the letter.. i hae two wvo.. one solid and one liquid... both give me dark fuel... but then again .. i do not have proper equipment... to mix for such a long time.. You can improvise, but we have very little idea of what you're doing, you haven't told us, so it's hard to make suggestions. and.. my flasks are contaminated surely... what can i clean them with? best.. Dishwashing soap and hot water? You mentioned sulphuric acid pipettes in that post about cleaning your equipment - what are you doing with sulphuric acid? You're using the Foolproof acid-base method? Didn't you see what it says right at the top of that page? NOTE: The two-stage biodiesel processes are advanced methods, not for novices -- learn the basics thoroughly first. The single-stage base method is the place to start. Start here. Not for novices: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make2.html#whystart Please read what it says at that link! Here is here: Where do I start? http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_make.html#start If you're just trying to avoid doing titration, no wonder you're getting so confused. Avoiding learning how to do titration is a VERY BAD reason for using the acid-base process! Go back to the beginning Anibal - start with new, unused, virgin oil, do one-litre batches, not 10 litres, and use the single-stage base process - once you've mastered that you can move on to WVO, and then later, I'd say a lot later, you could try the two-stage processes if you want to. Otherwise you'll be swamped with too many variables and you won't have any idea what they all mean. Which is just what's happening to you, eh? Start at the beginning! anibal. and sorry and thanks to every body and to keith for having such an amazing website. :) Thankyou, I'm glad you like it. :-) Best wishes Keith anibal ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever:
Re: [Biofuel] New method for the production of home made bio-diesel
Hello Oneil, It sounds like you may have already visited some of these sites. On the outside chance that you haven't, and for the benefit of others interested in some background on biodiesel production from algae, hopefully this site will help you. Even better, scroll all the way to the bottom of the page for more links, some on the topic, some related. Widescale Biodiesel Production from Algae Michael Briggs, University of New Hampshire, Physics Department (revised August 2004) http://www.unh.edu/p2/biodiesel/article_alge.html AntiFossil Mike Krafka Minnesota USA * If you think you are too small to make a difference try sleeping with a mosquito. Dalai Lama * Experience is the comb that nature gives us when we are bald. Belgian proverb * - Original Message - From: O'Neil Brooke [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 1:20 PM Subject: [Biofuel] New method for the production of home made bio-diesel Hello, I would like to try making bio-diesel. I've been reading as much material as I can find on the topic, but have not been able to find some key bits of information. I was hoping people on this list might know some of the answers or be able to point me to other resources. Right now I am interested in a very specific development path. Biodiesel can be made today in a variety of ways with published recipes, unfortunately they do not include the materials I plan to use. Algae are the planned source of hydrocarbons. I choose algae for a couple of reasons. In some of the material I have read, algae were identified as a much richer source of hydrocarbons than traditional seed stock (i.e. oil created per acre by algae vs. a seed stock). Algae can be used to treat sewage, so a large scale implementation could serve multiple purposes. Algae can be grown in fresh or salt water. Algae can be grown successfully in environments that are unsuitable for other plant life (i.e. hot desert adjacent to the ocean). Another very important reason for me to start with algae is the fact that I can grow it! I have several fish tanks and normally algae are something I limit through the use of snails, clams and zebra mussels. I do not know how much algae can be grown in a 55 gallon tank, but, I have the tank and can use it to start experimenting. The oil needs to be extracted from the algae. I am thinking I will need a press and follow a process that is similar to that used with seeds. I do not know what press to use, or how I will separate the algae from tank water and prepare it for pressing. One of the objectives for creating this method is to find a way to produce the biodiesel without purchasing any the source materials. Algae can be grown. Then I need lye. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_ashlye.html I was very happy when I found this. Hard wood ash, I have trees, I can make ash. A quote from the biodiesel page on journeytoforever: One more complication -- check the purity of your KOH, it's generally not as pure as NaOH. Anhydrous grade KOH flake is usually about 92%, sometimes less -- check the label. We use half-pearls assayed at 85%. Adjust the basic quantity accordingly: the basic 4.9 grams would be 5.8 (5.775) grams for 85% KOH, or 5.3 (5.33) grams for 92% KOH. How would I measure the purity of the lye that is created from wood ash and then adjust the formula? Thank you for the assistance, O'Neil. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
be a witness for us. Honest people do not need to fear surveillance. My parents taught me that driving was a privilege, not a right. I see no problem with this and considering the road rage and other things I see on the highway, all the time, I think this is a good idea. Bright Blessings, Kim At 09:11 AM 2/5/2005, you wrote: http://www.kotv.com/main/home/stories.asp?whichpage=1id=75424 Your car is most likely recording things about your driving and that information can be used against you if you have a traffic accident. Most people don't know their car has a black box. They are similar to ones in airplanes, although they don't record voices, but they do record plenty of other things that happen before a crash. News on 6 reporter Lori Fullbright has been investigating. Even though it's silver, it's called a black box or airbag sensor or event data recorder. Its main job is safety, it operates the airbags, but it also records information and because of that, a Glenpool teenager could be charged with negligent homicide. It'll be the first time anyone's been charged in Tulsa County based on a black box, but you can bet, it won't be the last. Last year, a 19 year old man took his sister's 2002 Trans-Am out for a test drive the day after she bought it. He lost control and hit two utility poles; the crash killed his passenger, who was also 19. The driver had no idea the car would become a witness against him. ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box
I don't like the idea of forcing people like that. I believe in an after life, and even if they are not held responsible in this life, I believe that they will be held responsible there, for the good or bad that they cause in the here and now. Yes, personal response ability is good, but, I don't think that is the way to go about it. I dislike any form of Big Brother. I dislike new vehicles, because of the built in obsolescence, and so called hype that is use to sell them. I also like older cars, because a single cracked tail light doesn't cost $150.00 ( or more ) to replace. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Martin K [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, February 05, 2005 11:20 Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Automotive Black Box Greg, can I ask why? What if someone ran into you doing 100MPH. Would you want justice to be done (would your family?) Forcing people to be responsible for their irresponsibility is refreshing to me. -- Martin K http://wwia.org/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] very dark biodiesel
- Original Message - Keith Addison Sent: Friday, February 04, 2005 12:07 Of course you DO have to look in the first place. Which was why I pointed you to the List resources after your first post - My appologise thank you (not forgetting Appal Energy). Has there been anything on the conductivity of wvo at various temperatures?I'm sure wvo varies in consistancy and I'm not wishing to stress you at all but am wodering if passing a current through wvo to alter it's ph may be a possibility. After all, pure water is an insulator being only the impurities in it that produce a conductor from what is, basically, a solvent. JD2005 ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo.cgi/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
