Re: [Biofuel] Bad News
Hi Robert Horse manure is one of the best manures you can use for a garden, it has a slow release of its nutrients. As my dad says you cant beat horse muck for roses. Just spread it on the ground and leave it over winter then in spring what ever muck has not weathered in dig into the soil. You will be on a winner!! P.s Horse manure is the main ingredient for mushroom farming. Good luck Mark From: robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org To: biofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: [Biofuel] Bad News Date: Fri, 20 Oct 2006 18:38:47 -0700 We got a break in the weather today, and I managed to schedule all of my clients for the morning, so I took my son to the auction house to pick up a load of barn litter to compost for the garden. However, they've cleaned out the back end of the property with a loader and nearly ALL the barn litter is gone. There is one lonely pile left, but it's in the midst of a mud flat. I tried to get in there, but it's been too rainy lately and the ground is too soft. I made it to the pile, but figured that if I loaded my truck the back end would become too heavy and I'd sink to the axles in the muck . . . So, I drove over to Yarrow. There's a beautiful, elderly woman there who raises a family of horses and she gives away their manure in black, plastic bags. She laughed when I said I wanted to fill the back of my truck, and when I told her I'd need five or six loads, she asked: Just how big a garden do you have? Now, I don't know how well horse manure will compost over the winter. I don't like the fact that it comes in baseball-sized clumps either, as it will be more difficult to distribute over the garden. Has anyone in this forum worked with horse manure before? Does anyone have suggestions for me? Thanks in advance! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ _ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Bad News
Mark` Cookson wrote: Hi Robert Horse manure is one of the best manures you can use for a garden, it has a slow release of its nutrients. As my dad says you cant beat horse muck for roses. Just spread it on the ground and leave it over winter then in spring what ever muck has not weathered in dig into the soil. You will be on a winner!! I'll keep that in mind. It sure stinks, though! Thanks! robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Energy saving
Nice website Hakan Joe Hakan Falk wrote: After moving my site http://energysavingnow.com a number of times and changed domain names, I have finally had the time to fix most of the links and information. It was a mess, but I think I did catch most of the problems and if you like to look, it would be nice if you tell me about things I might have missed. After being inactive and not worked on the site, I am surprised about how much useful information it was on it. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] ExxonMobil covertly funds EU climate skeptics
Also: http://www.prwatch.org/node/5524 Edelman Flacks for Big Oil - Center for Media and Democracy Source: National Journal (reg req'd), December 1, 2006 With congressional Democrats readying probes into oil companies' profits and eyeing legislation aimed at curbing global warming, the American Petroleum Institute and its K Street allies are looking to assemble a $100 million war chest to rally policy makers and public opinion to their side, reports Peter Stone. The image and education effort, much of which will be coordinated by the PR firm Edelman, will include expensive television, radio, and print ads, tours of oil patch facilities for lawmakers and opinion elites, and financial contributions to sympathetic think tanks and industry-friendly organizations. API has also been using the services of Wirthlin Worldwide, headed by former Ronald Reagan pollster Richard Wirthlin, as it scrambles to salvage a reputation suffering amid high gasoline prices and concern about fossil-fuel dependence. - http://www.corporateeurope.org/ThinkTankSurvey2006.html Brussels think tanks persist in funding secrecy ExxonMobil covertly funds EU climate skeptics Corporate Europe Observatory (CEO), December 2006 The results of a new survey undertaken by Corporate Europe Observatory (CEO), demonstrates that, despite increased calls for the financial transparency of EU think tanks, secrecy prevails. Also large EU corporations, known to be major financers of EU think tanks, fail to disclose their funding for these institutions. Clearly, enforceable EU rules are needed to ensure that think tanks and their corporate backers abide by basic transparency standards. The debate around the European Transparency Initiative (ETI) appears to have by-passed most EU think tanks. In March 2005, EU Commissioner Siim Kallas launched the ETI, in part to tackle concerns that the transparency of lobbyists working to influence EU decision-making is too deficient in comparison to the impact of their activities.[1] Think tanks are included in the Commission's definition of 'lobbyists'. CEO's survey - which involved 20 think tanks - demonstrates that a large majority do not live up to basic standards of transparency.[2] For example, very few disclose their sources of funding on their websites. When contacted by CEO, a few think tanks did agree to name their corporate sponsors, but refused to disclose the amounts they receive from each funder. Many others failed to respond to our repeated requests or explicitly rejected providing any funding information whatsoever. The survey illustrates that little progress has been made since 2005, when CEO presented the results of a similar survey in the briefing Transparency unthinkable?.[3] Set against the background of the ETI debate, the general lack of improvement in the transparency of think tanks, is both surprising and disappointing. For a detailed overview of the survey results, see the appendix of this report. http://www.corporateeurope.org/docs/ThinkTankSurvey2006-Appendix.pdf Think tanks in the EU are involved in both setting the policy agenda and influencing the content of policy debate. Their influence and perceived authority is apparent when considering the wide coverage they receive in the European media and their growing presence in Brussels. The potential impact of think tanks in influencing political developments has been clearly shown in the US where neoconservative think tanks were instrumental in preparing the ground for the Bush government.[4] There is mounting evidence that many EU-focused think tanks are heavily funded by corporations and this raises serious concerns about their agenda and their independence. Obliging think tanks to disclose their sources of financing would enable greater public scrutiny of the interests behind these organizations. As in the 2005 survey, radical neoliberal think tanks like Centre for the New Europe, the European Enterprise Institute and the International Council for Capital Formation reacted most hostile when asked to reveal details about their financial backers.[5] Within this category, there have been modest transparency improvements by the Stockholm Network and the International Policy Network (IPN). The Stockholm Network, highlighted as an absolute laggard in the 2005 survey, now publishes on its website the names of the companies funding it (including Eli Lilly, ExxonMobil, Merck, Pfizer and Philips), but not the amounts involved.[6] The IPN very grudgingly released some information. After several weeks of initial silence, executive director Julian Morris told us that he would send us a short reply at some point. He explained that it is not a priority to answer your request. You don't seem to focus on issues that are of importance / relevance to us.[7] Eventually, IPN's response was a brief message informing us that they have over 160 donors, most of whom private individuals,
[Biofuel] oil pulling
Luke: Have you ever noticed that when washing a bucket, the water gets dirty before it gets clean. If only a portion of the bucket is dirty, when you clean it you get the rest of the bucket dirty before it gets clean. For a more comprehensive understanding you could probably google healing crisis I have recently started trying the oil pulling method and I think it is beneficial. I think it was either at a DMSO list or perhaps Whitegold list it was posted as well. Wes Luke wrote: Luke Hansen Sat, 09 Dec 2006 16:51:15 -0800 I'm always a little skeptical of miracle cures that tell you that getting sicker is a step towards getting better ;P ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
Hi Luke: Any UV light that operates between (I think 230nm to 165nm) will produce noticeable O3. this UV spectrum might be referred to as UV E . the problem with producing ozone this way is the life span of the bulbs. They reach half life rather quickly, perhaps 6 months, after this they are producing longer wave lengths of UV. I think cold plasma is a better way to go. I have one operating with copper grounding. The copper has turned dark gray to black rather than green. You may be interested in this article http://www.oxygenmedicine.com/ozonetoxicity.html . I think it is more or less accepted that O3 that is not contaminated with Fe based metals is good (to a point) metal ductwork perhaps increases the incidence of NO2. this author also speculates the same for high temp corona discharge in air (nitrogen) Luke Hansen wrote: Wed, 13 Dec 2006 17:31:17 -0800 Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similar? Thanks, Luke ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
-sharing agreement that gave control of the Senate to Republicans but gave Democrats equal representation on committees. That arrangement lasted only until June 2001, when Vermont Republican James Jeffords became an independent who chose to vote with Democrats on organizational matters, giving Democrats control until Republicans won back the Senate in the 2002 midterm electons. Johnson, a centrist Democrat, was first elected to the Senate in 1996 after serving 10 years in the House. He narrowly defeated Republican John Thune in his 2002 re-election bid. Thune defeated Sen. Tom Daschle, the former Senate Democratic leader, two years later. Johnson underwent prostate cancer treatment in 2004, and subsequent tests have shown him to be clear of the disease. Johnson is the second senator to become ill after the Nov. 7 election. Wyoming Sen. Craig Thomas (news, bio, voting record), a Republican, was diagnosed with leukemia on Election Day. He is back at work. Associated Press writers Laurie Kellman and Natasha Metzler in Washington and Dirk Lammers in Sioux Falls contributed to this report. To learn more visit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_go_co/johnson - Fair Use Notice This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (See: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.) If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. - Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answers. Try it now.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] TiO2 (Titanium Dioxide) Lights
UV light (when powerful enough) can sterilize many things. There are a number of water plants that use UV for sterilizing. I dunno about the Ozone Lights doing much good on the O3 side (namely, is O3 a sterilizing agent?). I think there are better ways to make O3 such as direct electrical arc (jacobs ladder). Some ion machines also produce O3. Luke Hansen wrote: Hello all, I was just wondering if anyone has heard anything about the effects of these Ozone Lights. I guess that they don't actually create O3, but they do kill airborne pathogens. Most of the online literature that I've found goes back to one study that showed this light effective in killing E. Coli bacteria in clinical trials. Anyone have experiences with this, or anything similiar? Thanks, Luke Any questions? Get answers on any topic at www.Answers.yahoo.com. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Energy saving
Haka Your website spark insperation. I loved small hidropower part. Chic Joe Street escreveu: Nice website Hakan Joe Hakan Falk wrote: After moving my site http://energysavingnow.com a number of times and changed domain names, I have finally had the time to fix most of the links and information. It was a mess, but I think I did catch most of the problems and if you like to look, it would be nice if you tell me about things I might have missed. After being inactive and not worked on the site, I am surprised about how much useful information it was on it. Hakan ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Water
http://www.globalissues.org/TradeRelated/Development/water/ Global Issues Water and Development by Anup Shah This Page Last Updated Friday, November 24, 2006 Much of the world lives without access to clean water. Privatization of water resources, promoted as a means to bring business efficiency into water service management, has instead led to reduced access for the poor around the world as prices for these essential services have risen. This article looks into this issue in further detail below. Table Of Contents For This Page This web page has the following sub-sections: Introduction-A Water Management Crisis Leading To Lack Of Access To Safe Water For Much Of The World Coca Cola Vs. Indian Farmers: Luxury Vs. Necessity Privatization In Both Rich And Poor Countries Can Mean Many Cannot Access Safe Water Water Access Policy: Following Neoliberal Ideology Privatization Vs. Democratic Accountability Of Management Of A Fundamental Resource Water: A Human Right Or A Commodity? Water And Environmental Issues Climate Change And Water Security Future Wars Over Water? International Agreements And Action More Information Introduction-A Water Management Crisis Leading To Lack Of Access To Safe Water For Much Of The World Consider the following: The 2006 United Nations Human Development Report, focusing on water, notes the following: Some 1.1 billion people in developing countries have inadequate access to water, and 2.6 billion lack basic sanitation. Almost two in three people lacking access to clean water survive on less than $2 a day, with one in three living on less than $1 a day. More than 660 million people without sanitation live on less than $2 a day, and more than 385 million on less than $1 a day. Access to piped water into the household averages about 85% for the wealthiest 20% of the population, compared with 25% for the poorest 20%. 1.8 billion people who have access to a water source within 1 kilometre, but not in their house or yard, consume around 20 litres per day. In the United Kingdom the average person uses more than 50 litres of water a day flushing toilets (where average daily water usage is about 150 liters a day. The highest average water use in the world is in the US, at 600 liters day.) Some 1.8 million child deaths each year as a result of diarrhoea The loss of 443 million school days each year from water-related illness. Close to half of all people in developing countries suffering at any given time from a health problem caused by water and sanitation deficits. Millions of women spending several hours a day collecting water. To these human costs can be added the massive economic waste associated with the water and sanitation deficit. The costs associated with health spending, productivity losses and labour diversions are greatest in some of the poorest countries. Sub-Saharan Africa loses about 5% of GDP, or some $28.4 billion annually, a figure that exceeds total aid flows and debt relief to the region in 2003.(See pages 6, 7, 35.) 400 million children (1 in 5 from the developing world) have no access to safe water. 1.4 million children will die each year from lack of access to safe drinking water and adequate sanitation (State of the World's Children, 2005, UNICEF) A mere 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World. (Maude Barlow, Water as Commodity-The Wrong Prescription, The Institute for Food and Development Policy, Backgrounder, Summer 2001, Vol. 7, No. 3) Already, corporations own or operate water systems across the globe that bring in about $200 billion a year. Yet they serve only about 7 percent of the world's population, leaving a potentially vast market untapped. (John Tagliabue, As Multinationals Run the Taps, Anger Rises Over Water for Profit, New York Times, August 26, 2002) Already some one third of the world's population is living in either water-scarce, or water-short areas. It is predicted that climate change and population growth will take this number to one half of humanity. Yet, as Maude Barlow has commented, it is not necessarily over-population causing water shortages: 12 percent of the world's population uses 85 percent of its water, and these 12 percent do not live in the Third World. The United Nations appears to concur: We reject this [Malthusian perspective that global water problems are a problem of scarcity and population growth]. The availability of water is a concern for some countries. But the scarcity at the heart of the global water crisis is rooted in power, poverty and inequality, not in physical availability. - 2006 United Nations Human Development Report, 2006, p.2 Indian scientist and activist, Vandana Shiva noted in a documentary that the water crisis is a human-created crisis only in the last two or so decades. In other words, it is not so much of a water
Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
representation on committees. That arrangement lasted only until June 2001, when Vermont Republican James Jeffords became an independent who chose to vote with Democrats on organizational matters, giving Democrats control until Republicans won back the Senate in the 2002 midterm electons. Johnson, a centrist Democrat, was first elected to the Senate in 1996 after serving 10 years in the House. He narrowly defeated Republican John Thune in his 2002 re-election bid. Thune defeated Sen. Tom Daschle, the former Senate Democratic leader, two years later. Johnson underwent prostate cancer treatment in 2004, and subsequent tests have shown him to be clear of the disease. Johnson is the second senator to become ill after the Nov. 7 election. Wyoming Sen. Craig Thomas (news, bio, voting record), a Republican, was diagnosed with leukemia on Election Day. He is back at work. Associated Press writers Laurie Kellman and Natasha Metzler in Washington and Dirk Lammers in Sioux Falls contributed to this report. *To learn more visit: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061214/ap_on_go_co/johnson * ** - *Fair Use Notice* This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific, and social justice issues, etc. We believe this constitutes a 'fair use' of any such copyrighted material as provided for in section 107 of the US Copyright Law. In accordance with Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, the material on this site is distributed without profit to those who have expressed a prior interest in receiving the included information for research and educational purposes. (See: http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/17/107.shtml.) If you wish to use copyrighted material from this site for purposes of your own that go beyond 'fair use', you must obtain permission from the copyright owner. -- Any questions? Get answers on any topic at Yahoo! Answershttp://answers.yahoo.com/;_ylc=X3oDMTFvbGNhMGE3BF9TAzM5NjU0NTEwOARfcwMzOTY1NDUxMDMEc2VjA21haWxfdGFnbGluZQRzbGsDbWFpbF90YWcx. Try it now. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
Frank Navarrete wrote: I wonder if some entity assisted this incident. ??? That was my thought too, but I doubt it. My sweetheart thinks its the work of Satan, but whether or not the democrats control the senate by a single vote is a moot point. First of all, they don't have enough of a majority to override a presidential veto. Secondly, the 109th Congress has done NOTHING, so the country is a fiscal mess that will take so long to fix, the democrats will likely suffer in the NEXT election cycle because they haven't been able to solve the problems. Thirdly, the democrats are merely the back side of the republican coin. I don't think any fundamental changes are in store for the US government in the near term. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] SENATE CONTROL THREATENED BY TIM JOHNSON'S ILLNESS
Hear Hear! Although I have cast a few votes for Dems over the years (I usually vote green or indy, sometimes lib. or hell, even write ins...) I have no illusions that the Dems will do anything with control of house and senate. I have harassed my senator (Maria Cantwell, D-Washington) enough over the years to know that dems are usually just moderate republicans with different coloured ties on. Bummer about Johnson, but hell, be thankful...Hugo Chavez was re-elected, and Pinochet kicked the bucket. It's kinda scary how malleable people seem to be...he was actually reveared by a section of Chile's population...and to think that the CIA put him in control to stop the spread of communism to south america...crazy shit. robert and benita rabello [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Frank Navarrete wrote: I wonder if some entity assisted this incident. ??? That was my thought too, but I doubt it. My sweetheart thinks its the work of Satan, but whether or not the democrats control the senate by a single vote is a moot point. First of all, they don't have enough of a majority to override a presidential veto. Secondly, the 109th Congress has done NOTHING, so the country is a fiscal mess that will take so long to fix, the democrats will likely suffer in the NEXT election cycle because they haven't been able to solve the problems. Thirdly, the democrats are merely the back side of the republican coin. I don't think any fundamental changes are in store for the US government in the near term. robert luis rabello The Edge of Justice The Long Journey New Adventure for Your Mind http://www.newadventure.ca Ranger Supercharger Project Page http://www.members.shaw.ca/rabello/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ - Everyone is raving about the all-new Yahoo! Mail beta.___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
