Re: [Biofuel] A chapter ends ...

[Jake Kruger]

Thanks to Darryl, Chip, Keith, and all. I've learned a ton from this list
over the years; looking forward to continuing on the new platform.

Happy new year!

Best,
Jake



On Dec 31, 2016 3:46 PM, "Tom"  wrote:

> Thanks Chip.
> Thanks Darryl.
> Thanks to all who have contributed to the group.
>   Tom Kelly
>
> -Original Message-
> From: "Darryl McMahon" 
> Sent: ‎12/‎31/‎2016 2:54 PM
> To: "Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org" <
> Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org>
> Subject: [Biofuel] A chapter ends ...
>
> ... and another begins.
>
> I want to thank Chip for his efforts in recent years to keep the list
> operating.  I don't really know how much effort that was (it was
> considerable when I last ran a list many years ago), but I'm grateful I
> did not have to look after that, freeing me to concentrate on content.
>
> I don't see this list (sustainablelorgbiofuel) as being much work for
> me.  If I read a piece which I think deserves a wider audience, I simply
> shared it.  I could just add it to Reddit or StumbleUpon or other such
> tools instead, but those do not save the content to make it searchable
> (in the mail archive).  And while Internet searches are more
> comprehensive, they don't have a human filter to determine what is real
> and what is manufactured.  In a world where perception and sound-bytes
> rule the mainstream messaging, I think that has value.  In a world of
> Internet narrow-casting where feeds provide only reinforcement for
> pre-selected viewpoints, I hope that occasionally some of the posts I
> share cause others to pause and think for a moment.  This was Keith's
> gift to me (and many others).  I came to learn about biodiesel, and I
> learned about so much more.
>
> I have set up a new mail list via FreeLists.org.  I have called this
> Keith's List because in my mind that is the most accurate and succinct
> description of it, though not everyone has known or corresponded with
> Keith Addison.  It's a bit last minute, so the transition may be a bit
> rough.  Same purpose, same mandate, same rules.  If you think there
> should be discussion of a topic you are not seeing, just jump in and
> post.  Perhaps you can ask a question (though I hope the archives will
> continue to be your first-stop resource to reduce duplication), or find
> some like-minded souls to help with your personal projects and desires
> to 'save the world'.  It's a big place; no doubt you can find something
> in it to improve.
>
> Sorry, the following instructions are a direct lift from the list
> instructions, but I'm rather working to deadline as this list expires
> today.
>
> +
>
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> - To post on your mailing list, simply send email to
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>
> - Online, searchable archives of your list are available at
> http://www.freelists.org/archive/keiths-list  Each list's archive is
> automatically updated as new messages come in.
>
> - There's a FAQ at http://www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq
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> Please note:  I will not subscribe anyone to this list (or unsubscribe
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> The first post is up, and can be seen in the on-line archive at:
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> (I believe the on-line archive is web-accessible without need for a
> log-in, but unfortunately appears to be supported by ads.  As far as I
> can tell, no ads in the e-mail version or via the member's web
> interface, which requires a log-in.  I still have some learning to do.)
>
> See you on the other list if you choose to show up there.  If not,
> strength to your arm, and all best in your future endeavours.
>
> Wishing you all a successful (however you choose to define that) 2017,
>
> Your correspondent,
>
> Darryl McMahon
>
> 
>
> “Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
> Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”
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Re: [Biofuel] A chapter ends ...

[Tom]

Thanks Chip.
Thanks Darryl.
Thanks to all who have contributed to the group.
  Tom Kelly

-Original Message-
From: "Darryl McMahon" 
Sent: ‎12/‎31/‎2016 2:54 PM
To: "Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org" 

Subject: [Biofuel] A chapter ends ...

... and another begins.

I want to thank Chip for his efforts in recent years to keep the list 
operating.  I don't really know how much effort that was (it was 
considerable when I last ran a list many years ago), but I'm grateful I 
did not have to look after that, freeing me to concentrate on content.

I don't see this list (sustainablelorgbiofuel) as being much work for 
me.  If I read a piece which I think deserves a wider audience, I simply 
shared it.  I could just add it to Reddit or StumbleUpon or other such 
tools instead, but those do not save the content to make it searchable 
(in the mail archive).  And while Internet searches are more 
comprehensive, they don't have a human filter to determine what is real 
and what is manufactured.  In a world where perception and sound-bytes 
rule the mainstream messaging, I think that has value.  In a world of 
Internet narrow-casting where feeds provide only reinforcement for 
pre-selected viewpoints, I hope that occasionally some of the posts I 
share cause others to pause and think for a moment.  This was Keith's 
gift to me (and many others).  I came to learn about biodiesel, and I 
learned about so much more.

I have set up a new mail list via FreeLists.org.  I have called this 
Keith's List because in my mind that is the most accurate and succinct 
description of it, though not everyone has known or corresponded with 
Keith Addison.  It's a bit last minute, so the transition may be a bit 
rough.  Same purpose, same mandate, same rules.  If you think there 
should be discussion of a topic you are not seeing, just jump in and 
post.  Perhaps you can ask a question (though I hope the archives will 
continue to be your first-stop resource to reduce duplication), or find 
some like-minded souls to help with your personal projects and desires 
to 'save the world'.  It's a big place; no doubt you can find something 
in it to improve.

Sorry, the following instructions are a direct lift from the list 
instructions, but I'm rather working to deadline as this list expires today.

+

- Subscribers can join your list by sending email to
keiths-list-requ...@freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject field 
OR by visiting your list page at 
http://www.freelists.org/list/keiths-list.

- To post on your mailing list, simply send email to
keiths-l...@freelists.org (only after you are a list member)

- Online, searchable archives of your list are available at
http://www.freelists.org/archive/keiths-list  Each list's archive is
automatically updated as new messages come in.

- There's a FAQ at http://www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq

+

Please note:  I will not subscribe anyone to this list (or unsubscribe 
them either).

The first post is up, and can be seen in the on-line archive at: 
http://www.freelists.org/post/keiths-list/First-Post,13

(I believe the on-line archive is web-accessible without need for a 
log-in, but unfortunately appears to be supported by ads.  As far as I 
can tell, no ads in the e-mail version or via the member's web 
interface, which requires a log-in.  I still have some learning to do.)

See you on the other list if you choose to show up there.  If not, 
strength to your arm, and all best in your future endeavours.

Wishing you all a successful (however you choose to define that) 2017,

Your correspondent,

Darryl McMahon



“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

  ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
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Re: [Biofuel] A chapter ends ...

[Tom Thiel]

Darryl,

Thank you so much for picking up this ball! I have been reading for 
about 15 years with only a few posts, because I had so much more to 
learn than to say. I came to learn biofuel for my off-grid homestead. I 
got a broad education. Keith's perspective and this list have made the 
difference between my feeling overwhelmed and marginalized by much of 
our social direction, and gaining valid perspectives for inquiry.


Thanks again,

Tom Thiel
New Hampshire USA

On 12/31/16 2:54 PM, Darryl McMahon wrote:

... and another begins.

I want to thank Chip for his efforts in recent years to keep the list 
operating.  I don't really know how much effort that was (it was 
considerable when I last ran a list many years ago), but I'm grateful 
I did not have to look after that, freeing me to concentrate on content.


I don't see this list (sustainablelorgbiofuel) as being much work for 
me.  If I read a piece which I think deserves a wider audience, I 
simply shared it.  I could just add it to Reddit or StumbleUpon or 
other such tools instead, but those do not save the content to make it 
searchable (in the mail archive).  And while Internet searches are 
more comprehensive, they don't have a human filter to determine what 
is real and what is manufactured.  In a world where perception and 
sound-bytes rule the mainstream messaging, I think that has value.  In 
a world of Internet narrow-casting where feeds provide only 
reinforcement for pre-selected viewpoints, I hope that occasionally 
some of the posts I share cause others to pause and think for a 
moment.  This was Keith's gift to me (and many others).  I came to 
learn about biodiesel, and I learned about so much more.


I have set up a new mail list via FreeLists.org.  I have called this 
Keith's List because in my mind that is the most accurate and succinct 
description of it, though not everyone has known or corresponded with 
Keith Addison.  It's a bit last minute, so the transition may be a bit 
rough.  Same purpose, same mandate, same rules.  If you think there 
should be discussion of a topic you are not seeing, just jump in and 
post.  Perhaps you can ask a question (though I hope the archives will 
continue to be your first-stop resource to reduce duplication), or 
find some like-minded souls to help with your personal projects and 
desires to 'save the world'. It's a big place; no doubt you can find 
something in it to improve.


Sorry, the following instructions are a direct lift from the list 
instructions, but I'm rather working to deadline as this list expires 
today.


+

- Subscribers can join your list by sending email to
keiths-list-requ...@freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject 
field OR by visiting your list page at 
http://www.freelists.org/list/keiths-list.


- To post on your mailing list, simply send email to
keiths-l...@freelists.org (only after you are a list member)

- Online, searchable archives of your list are available at
http://www.freelists.org/archive/keiths-list  Each list's archive is
automatically updated as new messages come in.

- There's a FAQ at http://www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq

+

Please note:  I will not subscribe anyone to this list (or unsubscribe 
them either).


The first post is up, and can be seen in the on-line archive at: 
http://www.freelists.org/post/keiths-list/First-Post,13


(I believe the on-line archive is web-accessible without need for a 
log-in, but unfortunately appears to be supported by ads.  As far as I 
can tell, no ads in the e-mail version or via the member's web 
interface, which requires a log-in.  I still have some learning to do.)


See you on the other list if you choose to show up there.  If not, 
strength to your arm, and all best in your future endeavours.


Wishing you all a successful (however you choose to define that) 2017,

Your correspondent,

Darryl McMahon



“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

 ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
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[Biofuel] A chapter ends ...

[Darryl McMahon]

... and another begins.

I want to thank Chip for his efforts in recent years to keep the list 
operating.  I don't really know how much effort that was (it was 
considerable when I last ran a list many years ago), but I'm grateful I 
did not have to look after that, freeing me to concentrate on content.


I don't see this list (sustainablelorgbiofuel) as being much work for 
me.  If I read a piece which I think deserves a wider audience, I simply 
shared it.  I could just add it to Reddit or StumbleUpon or other such 
tools instead, but those do not save the content to make it searchable 
(in the mail archive).  And while Internet searches are more 
comprehensive, they don't have a human filter to determine what is real 
and what is manufactured.  In a world where perception and sound-bytes 
rule the mainstream messaging, I think that has value.  In a world of 
Internet narrow-casting where feeds provide only reinforcement for 
pre-selected viewpoints, I hope that occasionally some of the posts I 
share cause others to pause and think for a moment.  This was Keith's 
gift to me (and many others).  I came to learn about biodiesel, and I 
learned about so much more.


I have set up a new mail list via FreeLists.org.  I have called this 
Keith's List because in my mind that is the most accurate and succinct 
description of it, though not everyone has known or corresponded with 
Keith Addison.  It's a bit last minute, so the transition may be a bit 
rough.  Same purpose, same mandate, same rules.  If you think there 
should be discussion of a topic you are not seeing, just jump in and 
post.  Perhaps you can ask a question (though I hope the archives will 
continue to be your first-stop resource to reduce duplication), or find 
some like-minded souls to help with your personal projects and desires 
to 'save the world'.  It's a big place; no doubt you can find something 
in it to improve.


Sorry, the following instructions are a direct lift from the list 
instructions, but I'm rather working to deadline as this list expires today.


+

- Subscribers can join your list by sending email to
keiths-list-requ...@freelists.org with 'subscribe' in the Subject field 
OR by visiting your list page at 
http://www.freelists.org/list/keiths-list.


- To post on your mailing list, simply send email to
keiths-l...@freelists.org (only after you are a list member)

- Online, searchable archives of your list are available at
http://www.freelists.org/archive/keiths-list  Each list's archive is
automatically updated as new messages come in.

- There's a FAQ at http://www.freelists.org/wiki/the_faq

+

Please note:  I will not subscribe anyone to this list (or unsubscribe 
them either).


The first post is up, and can be seen in the on-line archive at: 
http://www.freelists.org/post/keiths-list/First-Post,13


(I believe the on-line archive is web-accessible without need for a 
log-in, but unfortunately appears to be supported by ads.  As far as I 
can tell, no ads in the e-mail version or via the member's web 
interface, which requires a log-in.  I still have some learning to do.)


See you on the other list if you choose to show up there.  If not, 
strength to your arm, and all best in your future endeavours.


Wishing you all a successful (however you choose to define that) 2017,

Your correspondent,

Darryl McMahon



“Unless someone like you cares a whole awful lot,
Nothing is going to get better. It's not.”

 ― Dr. Seuss, The Lorax
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Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

[Doug Turner]

Hello All,

  I'd like to take a moment to echo the general sentiment here.  Although I
have not contributed very much to the list, I have read and followed-up on
many of the items that have been posted here over the years.

  I am grateful for the time, effort and thought that have gone into keeping
the list active.  Thank you all very much for your offerings, it is/was
appreciated and will be missed.

  Doug
   (in Hamilton, Canada)



-Original Message-
From: sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org
[mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-boun...@lists.sustainablelists.org] On Behalf
Of Doug
Sent: Sunday, December 25, 2016 4:40 PM
To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org
Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Happy Solstice all, Taking the list down.

i, for one will be sorry to see the list go. I, too am an old bastard, that
wants a safe, clean world.
 I try to live softly on this planet, & feel I try to help my fellow man.

 I also wish to thank Darryl & Keith for the time spent on keeping this list
active. 

 I for one, hope that the politicians of this world wake up to the needs of
our planet.
 I am sure they do not realise we live in a closed loop, so every action has
a consequence for future generations.

 Good luck to all in the future.

Thanks to all,
Doug
(in Northern  NSW, Australia)


On Thu, 22 Dec 2016 14:42:18 -0800 (PST) Chip Mefford  wrote:

> It has been many years now since Keith passed. 
> 
> As things stand, Darryl is about the only traffic posted here and even 
> that is echoing (admittedly interesting) stuff posted elsewhere.
> 
> If anyone is interested, I can and am willing to provide the 
> subscriber's list if anyone wishes to continue this work.
> 
> As things stand, this mailing list is the only mailing list left on my 
> mailman server that gets any traffic at all, and the spam to post 
> ratio is about 70:1 (intercepted).
> 
> As of 20170101, the list will shut down.
> 
> The archives will of course remain in place until such a time as those 
> responsible for them decide to take some other action.
> 
> Please take these few days to make your farewells.
> 
> So long
> and thanks for everything.
> 
> your list-admin
> --chipper
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