[Biofuel] The Undercurrent: why are we being fed by a poison expert? Monsanto and Roundup – video
A fresh uploaded video on the website of 'The guardian' ( Australia) http://www.theguardian.com/science/video/2015/jun/04/undercurrent-monsanto-roundup-pesticide-herbicide-who-carcinogenic-video The Undercurrent: why are we being fed by a poison expert? Monsanto and Roundup The Undercurrent delves into the world of mass agriculture to ask how one company has such huge control over the world's food supply. The name Monsanto was once synonymous with Agent Orange, but in today's world it's the dominance of the widespread pesticide Roundup which helps keep the company on top of the pile. But is the World Health Organisation's claim that Roundup 'probably' causes cancer, cause for concern? And what about the company's stance on patenting which sees farmers in developing countries unable to hold on to their seeds for the next season? Guardian Australia has joined forces with The Undercurrent – an online news show billing itself as an antidote to the five-second soundbite – for a four-part series over June and July. Brisbane creators Jen Dainer and Dan Graetz say it is the show they wish existed – so they created it themselves == ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] Round-up banned in Holland for non-commercial use.
In Holland they just ruled that Glyphosate-based herbicides are now not allowed anymore for retail customers. Not yet for professionals ( farmers) but cities eg are already using no herbicides at all on keeping roadsides public places free of grass and weeds. http://www.collective-evolution.com/2015/05/30/why-the-netherlands-just-banned-monsantos-glyphosate-based-herbicides ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] Monsanto—A Sustainable Ag Company?
We do know the answer to that question upfront, don't we? This website is not a totally reliable or objective resource, but the article is pretty extensive, maybe worth reading. http://articles.mercola.com/sites/articles/archive/2015/03/28/monsanto-sustainable-agriculture-company.aspx === ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] McKibben steps down as Head of 350.org
FYI: ~~ http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2014-12-02/keystone-antagonist-steps-down-as-head-of-climate-group-350-org.html Keystone Antagonist Steps Down as Head of Climate Group 350.org By Jim Snyder Dec 2, 2014 Bill McKibben, a chief antagonist of the proposed Keystone XL pipeline, is stepping down as chairman of the environmental group 350.org that he helped create. McKibben, an author and climate advocate, said the move will give him more time to write and to organize campaigns. He’ll remain as a senior adviser to the New York-based group that pushes for action to combat climate change. “If this sounds dramatic, it’s not,” McKibben wrote in a letter to supporters sent from Sweden, where he is receiving the Right Livelihood Award from Parliament. “I will stay on as an active member of the board, and 90 percent of my daily work will stay the same, since it’s always involved the external work of campaigning, not the internal work of budgets and flow charts.” McKibben, 53, has led 350.org since he co-founded it in 2007. The group gets its name from a comment by climate scientist James Hansen, who has said the world needs to cut carbon dioxide in the atmosphere to 350 parts per million to avoid dangerous alterations to the climate. Current levels exceed that limit. The group has helped to galvanize opposition to the Keystone XL pipeline, which would carry heavy crude from Alberta to U.S. Gulf Coast refineries across six states. Critics say the pipeline will encourage development of the oil sands, which are more carbon intensive than conventional oil. The group has also joined campaigns against hydraulic fracturing and to discourage investing in energy companies that produce or use fossil fuels. ’Carbon Budgets’ During McKibben’s tenure, 350.org grew rapidly. It reported about $1.9 million in grants and contributions in a 2008 tax filing, and about $6.3 million in 2013 filing. In his letter, McKibben said the group’s size and complexity required a board chairman “who is as good at dealing with organizational budgets as carbon budgets.” He said KC Golden, a Seattle-based organizer, will talk over on an interim basis. McKibben helped organize a February 2013 rally that drew thousands of protesters to march around the White House urging President Barack Obama to stop the pipeline. McKibben has been arrested at least twice outside the building protesting the project. “The constant travel of the last seven years has helped a little, I hope, to build this movement, but I’m ready for a bit more order in my life,” McKibben wrote. “I’ll still be there when the time comes to go to jail, or to march in the streets, or to celebrate the next big win on divestment. But I’d like to see more of my wife.” The Right Livelihood Award McKibben has received is often called the “alternative Nobel Prize.” Awardees this year include Edward Snowden, the former National Security Agency contractor who leaked documents to reporters about U.S. surveillance programs. To contact the reporter on this story: Jim Snyder in Washington at jsnyde...@bloomberg.net -- ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] remove from list
Mark, like close to all listservers, subscribing unsubscribing is self-service. And like in most cases the info of how to do it, is in the footer or the header. Here its in the header: List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/sustainablelorgbiofuel, mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-requ...@lists.sustainablelists.org?subject=unsubscribe Grts Bruno M. ~~ Mark McFadden schreef op 28/11/2014 22:17: Hello, this is a request to remove me from the list.Thank you,\Mark ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel === ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] WV MetroNews – Homemade biodiesel operation sets residence ablaze in Monongalia County
Probably forgot that methanol(vapors) and hot oil can catch fire, man was saved, home burned down almost totally, see little tv news video: http://www.wdtv.com/wdtv.cfm?func=viewsection=5-Newsitem=Crews-Fight-Fire-At-Home-With-Biodiesel-Refinery-Inside-18528 ~~ Darryl McMahon schreef op 2/10/2014 18:17: http://wvmetronews.com/2014/10/01/homemade-biodiesel-operation-sets-residence-ablaze-in-monongalia-county/ Homemade biodiesel operation sets residence ablaze in Monongalia County By MetroNews Staff in News | October 01, 2014 at 11:39PM MORGANTOWN, W. Va. – Monongalia County Emergency Officials confirmed a fire Wednesday night which started after a homemade biodiesel operation burst into flames. Multiple crews responded to battle the blaze at the residence on Old Stewartstown Road outside of Morgantown. Few details were available Wednesday night but an explosion was reported after the refinery utilizing vegetable oil sparked and then caught fire. No injuries are being reported and Old Stewartstown Road was closed while crews fought the fire. The investigation into the accident is ongoing. ___ ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] 3 years after Fukushima: Safe City Japan Project with wood biomass CHP
Mike, no you can not do that, not even close, since for making your Hydrogen from distilled water you need a bunch of electric energy, from ... euh, ... the grid ? And don't tell me you can saver easely stock allot of your H2 made upfront and stock it near where it'll be needed or used to turn it back in grid(compatible) electric energy. Then i'm not so sure if their proposal is very realistic, and how they gonna keep in eg the chaos after a second and bigger fukushima debacle, 7 million people from using more electric energy then only charging their smart phone? And, they talk about CHP, how they gonna spread their produced heat to the (7 million) people ? Smells like a daydreamers unrealistic proposal. Grts Bruno M. Mike Carpenter schreef op 16/06/2014 21:22: I can do the same thing for less money using hydrogen from distilled water. Mike Carpenter Energy Recovery Group, Inc. 800-979-6453 503-508-8452 Skype - USBiodiesel1 mikecgr...@comcast.net (760) 569-7676 conf. 154-874 # bridge On 6/16/14, 6:43 AM, Oskar Bartenstein os...@ifcomputer.co.jp wrote: FYI. 3 years after Fukushima. Please let me know if you want more info or participate in any way. Stable natural energy for a safe Tokyo2020 April 22 2014 a group of journalists and engineers in Tokyo initiated the Safe City Japan Project. The project targets to install 1000 small wood fired combined heat power units in Olympic facilities, hotels and apartment buildings by August 2020. Based on the experience of the earthquake, tsunami and nuclear catastrophy in Northeast Japan March 2011 and on the pledge [1] by The Tokyo Organising Committee of the Olympic and Paralympic Games to use only green energy for Tokyo2020, the devices will provide disaster resilient distributed electricity and hot water from local renewable and sustainable resources. An event like March 2011 hitting Tokyo Metropolis cutting water, gas and electricity lines will within hours turn 10 Mio residents into refugees with no place to go even if all buildings remain intact. The project emphasizes distributed energy supply with storable fuel. Each machine can support 70 average Japanese households with electricity and heat from wood chips. 1000 machines will usually serve only 7 households. However during a crisis the distributed machines will be able to power nighttime lighting and telecommunication for about 7 Mio households, because during a power crisis high priority electricity need is only 1% of normal consumption. Distributed emergency power for 7 Mio households will make a substantial contribution towards disaster resistance of the large cities of Japan. Installation cost is estimated at less than JPY100billion, to be financed with green electricity sales proceeds. Nominal output 45MW electricity and 90MW heat, yearly energy is 1PJ electricity and 2PJ heat. The projects impact beyond the Olymic Games 2020 is disaster resistance as value to urban residents, new growth markets to forestry, and tangible progress towards storable, renewable and sustainable energy supply for modern Japan. [1] http://tokyo2020.jp/en/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_e nfr. pdf http://tokyo2020.jp/jp/plan/candidature/dl/tokyo2020_candidate_section_5_j p.p -- Dr Oskar Bartenstein IFCJ KK Ecolifelab 5-28-2 Sendagi Bunkyo-ku, Tokyo 1130022 oskar (dot) bartenstein (at) ecolifelab (dot) com +81-(0)90-9316-0956 http://www.ecolifelab.com ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] GMO crops not in Hawaii anymore
GMO free zone keeps rising ;-) Mayor of Hawaii's Big Island signs anti-GMO bill into law : http://buzz.naturalnews.com/001088-Hawaii-anti-GMO_bill-biotech_industry.html ~~ ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More
FYI: Grts Bruno M. ~~ http://www.forbes.com/sites/clareoconnor/2013/05/14/new-app-lets-you-boycott-koch-brothers-monsanto-and-more-by-scanning-your-shopping-cart/ New App Lets You Boycott Koch Brothers, Monsanto And More By Scanning Your Shopping Cart | 5/14/2013 |882,051 views In her keynote speech at last year's annual Netroots Nation gathering, Darcy Burner pitched a seemingly simple idea to the thousands of bloggers and web developers in the audience. The former Microsoft MSFT +0.14% programmer and congressional candidate proposed a smartphone app allowing shoppers to swipe barcodes to check whether conservative billionaire industrialists Charles and David Koch were behind a product on the shelves. Burner figured the average supermarket shopper had no idea that buying Brawny paper towels, Angel Soft toilet paper or Dixie cups meant contributing cash to Koch Industries through its subsidiary Georgia-Pacific. Similarly, purchasing a pair of yoga pants containing Lycra or a Stainmaster carpet meant indirectly handing the Kochs your money (Koch Industries bought Invista, one of the world's largest fiber and textiles companies, in 2004 from DuPont). At the time, Burner created a mock interface for her app, but that's as far as she got. She was waiting to find the right team to build out the back end, which could be complicated given often murky corporate ownership structures. She wasn't aware that as she delivered her Netroots speech, a group of developers was hard at work on Buycott, an even more sophisticated version of the app she proposed. I remember reading Forbes' story on the proposed app to help boycott Koch Industries and wishing that we were ready to launch our product, said Buycott's marketing director Maceo Martinez. The app itself is the work of one Los Angeles-based 26-year-old freelance programmer, Ivan Pardo, who has devoted the last 16 months to Buycott. It's been completely bootstrapped up to this point, he said. Martinez and another friend have pitched in to promote the app. Meet The Cathys: Your Guide To The Billionaires Behind Chick-fil-A Clare O'Connor Clare O'Connor Forbes Staff Want To Boycott Koch Brothers' Products While Shopping? There's An App For That Clare O'Connor Clare O'Connor Forbes Staff 14 images Photos: Anti-Obama Billionaires Pardo's handiwork is available for download on iPhone or Android, making its debut in iTunes and Google GOOG +0.41% Play in early May. You can scan the barcode on any product and the free app will trace its ownership all the way to its top corporate parent company, including conglomerates like Koch Industries. Once you've scanned an item, Buycott will show you its corporate family tree on your phone screen. Scan a box of Splenda sweetener, for instance, and you'll see its parent, McNeil Nutritionals, is a subsidiary of Johnson Johnson JNJ +0.03%. Even more impressively, you can join user-created campaigns to boycott business practices that violate your principles rather than single companies. One of these campaigns, Demand GMO Labeling, will scan your box of cereal and tell you if it was made by one of the 36 corporations that donated more than $150,000 to oppose the mandatory labeling of genetically modified food. Deciding to add that campaign to your Buycott app might make buying your breakfast nearly impossible, as that list includes not just headline grabbers like agricultural giant Monsanto but just about every big consumer company with a presence in the supermarket aisle: Coca-Cola, Nestle, Kraft, Heinz, Kellogg's, Unilever and more. Buycott is still working on adding new data to its back end and fine-tuning its information on corporate ownership structures. Most companies in the current database actually own more brands than Buycott has on record. The developers are asking shoppers to help improve their technology by inputting names of products they scan that the app doesn't already recognize. And if this all sounds worthy but depressing, be assured that your next trip to the supermarket needn't be all doom and gloom. There are Buycott campaigns encouraging shoppers to support brands that have, say, openly backed LGBT rights. You can scan a bottle of Absolut vodka or a bag of Starbucks coffee beans and learn that both companies have come out for equal marriage. I don't want to push any single point of view with the app, said Pardo. For me, it was critical to allow users to create campaigns because I don't think it's Buycott's role to tell people what to buy. We simply want to provide a platform that empowers consumers to make well-informed purchasing decisions. Forbes reached out to Koch Industries and Monsanto for comment and will update this story with any responses. Update: Tuesday's traffic surge is causing some problems for Buycott. Pardo says he's working to fix issues with the Android
Re: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please
If you guys are not illiterate, and you did the SUBscribing yourself, why don't you do the UNsubscribe also yourself? Follow the links that you'll find in every message from this listserv. ... see Header footers. List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/sustainablelorgbiofuel, mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-requ...@lists.sustainablelists.org?subject=unsubscribe List-Help: mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-requ...@lists.sustainablelists.org?subject=help For the blind, click here : http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Grts Bruno M. Op 2-4-2013 8:27, Wikus Snijman schreef: I agree with Kirk. Please remove me as well, please Kirk McLoren kirkmclo...@yahoo.com 31/03/2013 01:28 read the archives its all there extensive and detailed From: Stephen Rhodes captb...@gmail.com To: Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org Sent: Saturday, March 30, 2013 12:51 PM Subject: [Biofuel] remove from mailing list please When I signed up for this, I mistakenly thought there would be some info on sustainable bio-diesel info. This is just a blog for people who want to be heard. Please remove my name from a this mailing lost. Ty SR ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ == ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Inscribe
Illerated indeed, it seems, try again but write unsubscribe correctly this time u n s u b s c r i b e notINsubscribe And to the correct address sustainablelorgbiofuel-requ...@lists.sustainablelists.org this is not the same as the list address for messages to other members! see list mail headers: List-Unsubscribe: http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/options/sustainablelorgbiofuel, mailto:sustainablelorgbiofuel-requ...@lists.sustainablelists.org?subject=unsubscribe not sent from an iphone Bruno M. ~~ Op 2-4-2013 19:01, Steven Finger schreef: Sent from my iPhone ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel == ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Testing the new list
also well received in Belgium ;-) Bruno M. Op 30-10-2012 14:14, Agriokoniklos schreef: Got mail,thanx. greece. On 30/10/2012 03:11 ??, Dawie Coetzee wrote: Let's see: testing ... testing ...-D *From:* Chip Mefford c...@well.com *To:* sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org *Sent:* Tuesday, 30 October 2012, 14:54 *Subject:* [Biofuel] Testing the new list Okay list; We're almost there. Keith is having issues posting to the list. I'm supposing this is due to the DNS changes that I made for the new list not fully propagating across everything as of yet. Also, the new email address (@lists.sustainability.org, rather than @sustainability.org) isn't filtering into the archive as of yet. So, none of this chatter is being archived as of yet. Which is fine. I'd actually appreciate a few echos from you all. My logs show all the email except a small handfull being delivered promptly. And Zeke, all I got was a modest amount of rain, wind never topped 20mph. So we're doing fine. Back home in WV, the snow fall is being measured in feet, and is still pounding down. Good be some happy telemarkers this week. But things are going to be messed up, and There Will Be Flood. ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org mailto:Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel ___ Sustainablelorgbiofuel mailing list Sustainablelorgbiofuel@lists.sustainablelists.org http://lists.eruditium.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel
[Biofuel] Global Warming's Terrifying New Math ( McKibben )
Bill McKibben is of course well known of www.350.org He has published an article in Rolling Stone about Global Warming: Global Warming's Terrifying New Math Three simple numbers that add up to global catastrophe - and that make clear who the real enemy is www.rollingstone.com/politics/news/global-warmings-terrifying-new-math-20120719 grts Bruno .M -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20120721/84c66f70/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Dilbit Disaster: Inside The Biggest Oil Spill You've Never Heard Of, Part 1
Nice job so far Darryl, but i guess there something wrong or at least not logical. 3)Dilbit is less viscous than conventional crude oil.Therefore, dilbit is pumped through pipelines at higher pressure than conventional crude oil, which increases the risk of pressure-related failures occurring, and larger physical volumes of material escaping from a rupture in a given amount of time. You said it has less viscosity then norrmal crud, then you state Therefore is is pumped at higher pressure. This is i-logical if the viscosity is less, means lower, the procuct will have less resitance while pumped so can be pumped at a lower, not higher pressure. But the rest of the text makes it clear that those bitumusTar stuff has not a lesser but higher, much higher viscosity then regular crude, and then its logical the needed pressure will be higher. So it seems you need to change the less viscous to more viscous or has higher viscosity Success Bruno M. Op 1-7-2012 15:52, Darryl McMahon schreef: Thanks for the 2-parter here Keith. I have been following the tar sands and dilbit deceptions for a while now. I'm hardly an expert (yet), but I thought I would share a draft piece I am working on. I am still collecting items and references for it, but I think the gist of it could stand some independent review and comment. Given our governments' unwillingness to actually regulate the oil industry, I think one way to reign them in is to choke off their capital supply and bring insurance industry concerns to bear on 'extreme oil' exploitation, and possibly educate the public as to the heightened risks of these approaches (fracking, bitumen, deep off-shore drilling, off-shore drilling in icy waters, etc.). Darryl Things Potential Canadian 'Oil' Investors Should Know [Darryl McMahon -- 2012.06.27) In a world that seems to have an insatiable appetite for cheap energy, especially energy for transportation based on refined oil products, it is tempting to invest in the oil production industry as a sure-fire means of reaping strong investment returns due to historic high profits reported by the oil industry in the past couple of years.Before you invest your savings in this industry, we would like to bring some facts to your attention about major 'oil' production in the northern Alberta (and to a lesser extent, Saskatchewan) 'oil sands'. 1)The product from the northern Alberta 'Oil Sands' (aka 'Tar Sands') is neither, nor as useful as either as a fuel stock.It is bitumen, a low oil pitch better suited to use as a sealant than as an oil feedstock.The output needs to be upgraded before it is even suitable for refining into oil products, and unless it is diluted with volatile chemical compounds, it will not even flow under pressure in a pipeline.This product is known in the industry as 'dilbit' (for diluted bitumen), and not as 'oil'.When the oil company PR machines refer to this material as 'oil' to consumers and investors, they are intentionally misleading their audience. 2)Dilbit behaves differently from oil in significant ways.Dilbit is heavier than water, so it sinks when spilled into rivers, lake and oceans, unlike true crude oil which mostly floats on the water surface making it easier to access and recover than dilbit.Dilbit is more corrosive (acidic) and abrasive (fine sand and other particles) than conventional crude oil, so it will increase wear rates on pipelines and other equipment carrying or processing it. 3)Dilbit is less viscous than conventional crude oil.Therefore, dilbit is pumped through pipelines at higher pressure than conventional crude oil, which increases the risk of pressure-related failures occurring, and larger physical volumes of material escaping from a rupture in a given amount of time. 4)Dilbit is priced lower than conventional crude oils.West Texas Intermediate (WTI) is a real crude oil- the stuff of Texas legends.As I write this, the price of WTI crude oil is below US$80 a barrel, while Western Canada Select (bitumen-based crude stock) is trading around US$55 -- a $25 spread, or roughly 30%.While the major oil companies don't release their actual operating costs to the public, it is widely believed that bitumen production is not profitable when WTI prices are below $80/barrel without the subsidies currently received by the producers (e.g., virtually free water, natural gas at prices below world prices, laughable royalty rates for the Alberta government, and direct financial incentives and breaks from multiple levels of government).Dilbit is not worth as much as conventional crude oil to refiners, so remember that when you see 'world' oil prices rising, bitumen is not worth nearly as much. 5)There are multiple risk factors on the horizon for the Alberta bitumen production
Re: [Biofuel] The Problem With the Environment Is Not Too Many People
Interesting subject, but they are at least not good @ math In fact, in just four years, 2003-2007, the Iraq War resulted in 141 metric tons of CO2 emissions - the equivalent of 25 million cars. 141 metric tons ? Did they only consumed about 47 tons of fuel , 2 truckloads, in 4 years of war ? They seems to rattle out of there neck, not knowing what they are talking about. begin phasing out fossil fuels and biofuels Why no biofuels? Do they have a good reason for that? How would the majority of the 3 billion poorest cook there food then? With high-tech PV? Grts Bruno M. Op 12-3-2012 0:31, Keith Addison schreef: http://www.truth-out.org/problem-environment-not-too-many-people/1331163575 The Problem With the Environment Is Not Too Many People Saturday 10 March 2012 by: Eleanor J. Bader, Truthout | Book Review Too Many People? Population, Immigration, and the Environmental Crisis by Ian Angus and Simon Butler Haymarket Books Chicago, 2011 266 pages Paperback $19.00 We've all heard the claim repeatedly: humans pollute, so if we just reduce the number of people - both the number being born and the number immigrating from point A to point B - the despoiling will cease and Eden will be restored. If only it could be so simple. Eco-socialists Ian Angus and Simon Butler's critical assessment of population policy, Too Many People? begins with the Rev. Thomas Robert Malthus, who, in the early 19th century, put forward the idea that poverty is inextricably tied to population growth. The authors next revisit the theories of Anne and Paul Ehrlich, highly influential 20th-century writers who linked the failure to impose population controls to ever-worsening environmental calamity, and then zero in on - and argue against - contemporary population-reduction advocates such as The Population Justice Project, Population Action International, Earth First! and the Optimum Population Trust in the United Kingdom, groups that aim to reduce the number of humans tromping the earth. While Angus and Butler clearly champion access to birth control and abortion as human rights, Too Many People? is a clear and convincing challenge to the idea of population control as political necessity. First, the authors remind us, countries throughout North America and Europe have already seen their birthrates plummet; at the same time, environmental destruction has shown no sign of waning. Conversely, in countries where women bear high numbers of children but where heavy industry is rare, residents live in far less degraded environments than those of us in the so-called developed world. A quick gander at CO2 emissions makes the case: The poorest three billion or so people on the planet [roughly 45 percent of the total] are currently responsible for only seven percent of emissions while the richest seven percent [about half a billion people] are responsible for 50 percent of emissions, they report. A woman in rural Ethiopia can have ten children and her family will still do less damage, and consume fewer resources, than the family of the average soccer mom in Minnesota or Manchester or Munich. That said, while it's obvious that many of us can do more - as individuals and within our families and communities - to reduce our carbon footprint, those in the middle or lower strata shoulder less blame for fouling the environment than those who own the means of production or control the military. Since 99 percent of all solid waste in the United States today comes from industrial processes, eliminating all household waste would have little impact on per se waste, they write. Similarly, they add, the majority of greenhouse gas emissions originate in industrial and commercial operations. Attributing these emissions to consumers is, to say the least, misleading. It's also ridiculous. The obscene excesses of a handful of the world's richest people - Bill Gates' 66,000 square foot home in Medina, Washington, billionaire investors David and Frederick Barclay's $94 million English Channel castle, and oil and gas tycoon Mukesh Ambani's 22-story Mumbai mansion come to mind - showcase overconsumption at its most blatant, something that has precious little bearing on resource use by the majority of the planet's people, even if we live in the global north and consume far more than we should. And even these grotesque examples pale in comparison to the destruction wrought by the military. In 2009, Angus and Butler continue, the U.S. military used 5.7 trillion gallons of oil, just under 16 million gallons a day. Its operations produced an estimated 73 million tons of greenhouse gases, making it the biggest polluter - and the largest petroleum gobbler - in the universe. In fact, in just four years, 2003-2007, the Iraq War resulted in 141 metric tons of CO2 emissions - the equivalent of 25 million cars. Those who claim
[Biofuel] energypedia.info
energypedia.info a Wiki about renewable energies ( in the context of development cooperation ) it's still in beta but already usefull educational. https://energypedia.info/index.php/Main_Page about the organization behind it, who developed this wiki inside their organization first, then later decided to go public with it: https://energypedia.info/index.php/energypedia.info:About Grts Bruno M. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20120109/a540f393/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] aspousa / peak oil
Stumbled on this one while surfing: www.aspousa.org/ ASPO - USA Association for the study of Peak Oil Gas - USA Energy Action for Healthy Economy and a Clean Environment Don't know how clean or green they really are, but seems like a good reference point if you need to know stuff about Peak-oil or like to inform others about it. Site contains also a serie of video of prominent speakers. Grts Bruno M. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20111217/6c2e74f8/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Make this the LAST Aniversary of the Bush/Cheney 9/11 Media Fairy Tale !
Paul, do you really 'believe' this 9-11 conspiracy crap ? I ( may i say 'We'?) are not Bush fans, but, if it was all a set-up ( an inside job) it would involve at least a few hundred people, ( thousands if also the first responders had to keep quit) and could it then be, that even after ten years not 1 of them feels remorse, and came out of the closet and tell the truth, or wikileak it? Many Americans are so blind to what happens in the world ( outside the USA), that they don't can grasp the idea that the USA just got what they asked for, harvested what they sowed. To educate yourself, and be able to find more truth, at least read what the others have to say, it may open your eyes. Just a few to get you started: http://www.debunking911.com/ http://www.sawyerhome.net/whatilearned.html http://www.alternet.org/story/41601/ Grts Bruno M. ~~ Op 14-9-2011 2:41, Paul Landis schreef: 9/11/2001 the Media and Congress ! By the End of the Day 9/11/2001, We Knew: CNN: Reported Live On TV That NO 757 Hit The Pentagon! PA coroner: NO Flt 93 Reported at the alleged Flt 93 crash site In Shanksville, PA NYC TV Commentators Reporting the Explosions Bringing Down WTC Towers 1 and 2: Looks like buildings being DEMOLISHED; And They Were Right! At 5:00 PM, NYC time, The BBC announced that WTC 7 Had 'Collapsed'. It actually 'collapsed', at 5:20 PM NYC Time. The script of the 9/11 perpetrators was off. What Were We Being Told by the Mainstream Media and By Bush and Cheney? We were being told by Donald Rumsfeld that a 757 had crashed into the Pentagon. The News continued stories about a Flt 93 crash in PA The NYC TV commentators were talking about the 'Collapse' of WTC Tower 1 and 2 There were NO news reports about the BBC 'errors'. There were also NO reports about spectators who saw the second plane hit, And stated that is was NOT a commercial airliner. Now, Ten Years later: Clearly, the story we have been told was and Is a Bush and Cheney 9/11 Media Fairy Tale! The U.S. Corporate Controlled Media and their Executives who insured the American people did not see the truth; are now confronted by their actions with obstruction of justice and violations of the 1st amendment, guaranteeing Americans Truth in the Press and Freedom of the Press. And the U.S. Congress? Their role on the side lines, not challenging these lies, allowing the perpetrators to have their story supported by the Kean/Hamilton 9/11 Commission are now exposed. They too are guilty of accessory to the Murders of 9/1/2001 and Guilty of Criminal violations of their oaths of office. Uncle Sam Needs YOU ! This Tenth Anniversary of the Events of 9/11/2001 and the Murders of over 3,000 people, MUST Be the LAST Anniversary of this Criminal 9/11 Fairy Tale! 'We The People We The Media' Have Prepared Summary Information Available TO You Now At: www.wethepeoplewethemedia.com/learnmorebuynow.htm TELL YOUR FRIENDS, YOUR LOCAL ELECTED OFFICIALS AND THE POLICE: WE HAVE THE EVIDENCE THAT BUSH AND CHENEY LIED ABOUT THE EVENTS OF 9/11 AND THAT THE CONGRESS ALLOWED THE MAINSTREAM MEDIA TO PROTECT THEM! WE THE PEOPLE DEMAND ACTION: NOW! By Paul J. Landis, Author A Real 9/11 Commission Will Help Free America Now! ISBN: 097604-0824 www.wethepeoplewethemedia.com Paul Landis [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ~= -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110914/794f17fa/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Trees not cure for global warming
FYI: ~~ www.leaderpost.com/technology/Study%20trees%20cure%20global%20warming/4967756/story.html By Margaret Munro, Postmedia News June 18, 2011 Study: trees not cure for global warming Planting trees may help appease travellers' guilt about pumping carbon into the atmosphere. But new research suggests it will do little to cool the planet, especially when trees are planted in Canada and other northern countries, says climatologist Alvaro Montenegro, at St. Francis Xavier University in Nova Scotia. There is no magic bullet for global warming, says Montenegro, and trees are certainly not going to be providing it. He assessed the impact of replanting forests on crop and marginal lands with Environment Canada researcher Vivek Arora. Their study, published Sunday in Nature Geoscience, concludes afforestation is not a substitute for reduced greenhouse-gas emissions. The United Nations, environmental groups and carbon-offset companies are invested heavily in the idea that planting trees will help slow climate change and global warming. International authorities have long described afforestation as a key climate-change mitigation strategy. But the study says the benefits of tree planting are marginal when it comes to stopping the planet from overheating. Trees do suck carbon out of the air, but the study highlights that their dark leaves and needles also decrease the amount of solar radiation that gets reflected by the landscape, which has a warming effect. Cropland - especially snow-covered cropland - has a cooling effect because it reflects a lot more solar energy than forests, the scientists say. This so-called albedo effect is important and needs to be incorporated into assessments of tree planting programs and projects, the researchers say. Montenegro and Arora stress that planting forests has many benefits - trees provide habitat for wildlife and prevent soil erosion. And planting forests does help reduce atmospheric levels of carbon dioxide because carbon is locked into wood as trees grow. But planting trees will have only a modest effect on the global temperature, according to their study, which used a sophisticated climate modelling system developed by Environment Canada. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110621/6c11ec05/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The Earth is Full ( Thomas L. Friedman NY times)
FYI: ~~ www.nytimes.com/2011/06/08/opinion/08friedman.html?_r=3src=meref=general Op-Ed Columnist The Earth Is Full By THOMAS L. FRIEDMAN Published: June 7, 2011 You really do have to wonder whether a few years from now we'll look back at the first decade of the 21st century --- when food prices spiked, energy prices soared, world population surged, tornados plowed through cities, floods and droughts set records, populations were displaced and governments were threatened by the confluence of it all --- and ask ourselves: What were we thinking? How did we not panic when the evidence was so obvious that we'd crossed some growth/climate/natural resource/population redlines all at once? The only answer can be denial, argues Paul Gilding, the veteran Australian environmentalist-entrepreneur, who described this moment in a new book called The Great Disruption: Why the Climate Crisis Will Bring On the End of Shopping and the Birth of a New World. When you are surrounded by something so big that requires you to change everything about the way you think and see the world, then denial is the natural response. But the longer we wait, the bigger the response required. Gilding cites the work of the Global Footprint Network, an alliance of scientists, which calculates how many planet Earths we need to sustain our current growth rates. G.F.N. measures how much land and water area we need to produce the resources we consume and absorb our waste, using prevailing technology. On the whole, says G.F.N., we are currently growing at a rate that is using up the Earth's resources far faster than they can be sustainably replenished, so we are eating into the future. Right now, global growth is using about 1.5 Earths. Having only one planet makes this a rather significant problem, says Gilding. This is not science fiction. This is what happens when our system of growth and the system of nature hit the wall at once. While in Yemen last year, I saw a tanker truck delivering water in the capital, Sana. Why? Because Sana could be the first big city in the world to run out of water, within a decade. That is what happens when one generation in one country lives at 150 percent of sustainable capacity. If you cut down more trees than you grow, you run out of trees, writes Gilding. If you put additional nitrogen into a water system, you change the type and quantity of life that water can support. If you thicken the Earth's CO2 blanket, the Earth gets warmer. If you do all these and many more things at once, you change the way the whole system of planet Earth behaves, with social, economic, and life support impacts. This is not speculation; this is high school science. It is also current affairs. In China's thousands of years of civilization, the conflict between humankind and nature has never been as serious as it is today, China's environment minister, Zhou Shengxian, said recently. The depletion, deterioration and exhaustion of resources and the worsening ecological environment have become bottlenecks and grave impediments to the nation's economic and social development. What China's minister is telling us, says Gilding, is that the Earth is full. We are now using so many resources and putting out so much waste into the Earth that we have reached some kind of limit, given current technologies. The economy is going to have to get smaller in terms of physical impact. We will not change systems, though, without a crisis. But don't worry, we're getting there. We're currently caught in two loops: One is that more population growth and more global warming together are pushing up food prices; rising food prices cause political instability in the Middle East, which leads to higher oil prices, which leads to higher food prices, which leads to more instability. At the same time, improved productivity means fewer people are needed in every factory to produce more stuff. So if we want to have more jobs, we need more factories. More factories making more stuff make more global warming, and that is where the two loops meet. But Gilding is actually an eco-optimist. As the impact of the imminent Great Disruption hits us, he says, our response will be proportionally dramatic, mobilizing as we do in war. We will change at a scale and speed we can barely imagine today, completely transforming our economy, including our energy and transport industries, in just a few short decades. We will realize, he predicts, that the consumer-driven growth model is broken and we have to move to a more happiness-driven growth model, based on people working less and owning less. How many people, Gilding asks, lie on their death bed and say, 'I wish I had worked harder or built more shareholder value,' and how many say, 'I wish I had gone to more ballgames, read more books to my kids, taken more walks?' To do that, you need a growth model
[Biofuel] Globalisation is Good - Johan Norberg on Globalization
Globalisation is Good - Johan Norberg (young Swedish Writer) on Globalization http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5633239795464137680# Or with Spanish Naration. La Globalización es buena : http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=5633239795464137680#docid=4455150481097997498 ;-) Bruno M. -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20110530/82e1443d/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] greenhouse farming
Hi Dan, you may like to explore this website, lots of idea's, plans and/or links to it. http://www.builditsolar.com/Projects/Sunspace/sunspaces.htm Have you or others have been thinking about insulation? With soap bubbles? An invention ( or development) from a Canadian guy named Richard Nelson, he is the founder of the Sola Roof movement.( Open Source) http://www.solaroof.org/wiki/SolaRoof/RichardNelson http://www.solaroof.org/wiki/SolaRoof/SolaRoof How it looks: http://www.solaroof.org/wiki/SolaRoof/SolaRoofTech His own You Tube Channel: http://www.youtube.com/user/SolaRoof And an accompanying YahooGroup: http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/solaroof/ ( tip: check also their Files section) More info on soap Bubble Insolution of greenhouses: http://www.solaripedia.com/13/231/solaroof_keeps_it_cool_and_hot_%28canada%29.html http://www.solarbubblebuild.com/overview/overview.php http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=9141143967660224381# http://www.tdc.ca/bubblegreenhouse.htm http://www.midwestpermaculture.com/GreenhouseDescription.php Grts Bruno M. Op 1-12-2010 5:43, Dan Beukelman schreef: Hello All, I have read your posts for several years, but have not ever posted - lurking in the shadows I guess. I am wondering if anyone out there has any thoughts/experience with production agriculture from a greenhouse/hothouse structure. I live in South Dakota and have been thinking that with energy efficient glass and the right setup that growing fresh vegetables likes tomatoes year around might be possible (I say this with a wind chill today near 0 fahrenheit). I have read that many of the US tomato supply is grown in Canada, which is colder than us, our area is dominated by grain farming - but I think that local foods stores would go nuts over a locally grown garden type tomato in the Wintertime. The construction costs of a very efficient greenhouse should be able to be covered by the profit from selling a well growing tomato crop, but the profits go out the window if you have the heat much. All of the greenhouses I know of around here use plastic coverings and that is only useful for extending the growing season a little bit on both ends. I am thinking of keeping growth all year or nearly all year. Any thoughts? Dan === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] [no-forced-vaccination] surprized there was no comment re Andrew Moulden
Why would he be your choice ? It's a professional lying scumbag, an opportunist; he recently left the party he was leading, the CAP, Canadian Action Party ( he got in his district 200 from the 40.000 votes. ;-) Why would you vote for a weasel who is only in it for the money and his own glory? Maybe you should not only look to those Utube vids, but do a much more revealing G search for Andrew Moulden and combine it with one of these terms: Quack Scam crank Fraud And even if you only look into the first 5 hits, it will hit you; this full-of-himself--full-of-shit, quack (with his pseudoscience); is beyond any doubt, only in it for the money ( the money of the gullible and the desperate), and his own glory, thinking of himself as being a sort of Columbus; and a profound lover of conspiracy and suppression theories. Not my kind of guy; he belong behind bars, or at least separated from society, in a white jacket with long sleeves; where he could cause no harm to anymore. Keep your eyes open folks; and I mean realy open, Kirk an Nadiyah. ;-) Grts Bruno M. At 16:24 25/09/2009, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://media.abovetopsecret.com/media/2374/Dr_Andrew_Moulden/ Actually to see Mouldens material you have to go to utube or Googlevideo and put his name in the search window. Links are proving unreliable - they didnt used to be. If I was in Canada he would be my choice. Kirk --- On Thu, 9/24/09, Nadiyah Gayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Nadiyah Gayles [EMAIL PROTECTED] WOW. My husband and I watched that Video and we were very frustrated to say the least. I sent it to everyone in my other address book. I hope people do not get offended but have the courage to open their eyes. I appreciate all the information here.I do not think I have done this much research since I was in college. === Recent Activity 20 New Members Visit Your Group New web site? Drive traffic now. Get your business on Yahoo! search. Yahoo! Groups Mental Health Zone Mental Health Learn More Yahoo! Groups Auto Enthusiast Zone Passionate about cars? Check out the Auto Enthusiast Zone. . __,_._,___ -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20090925/e1d289da/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Andrew Moulden
Hi Kirk, all your links are pointing to www.youtube.com not to a specific vid? ~~ At 23:26 21/09/2009, you wrote: 19h30 - 21h00 Les vaccins causent des accidents microvasculaires, des dommages neurologiques et de nombreuses maladies (Présenté en anglais) Dr Andrew Moulden a sequence of videos regarding public health. Moulden was fast tracking to head of Quebec medicine 2004 when he and his conscience collided. A must see! Part 1 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 2 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Part 11 of 11: [link to www.youtube.com] Every law not based on wisdom is a menace to society. === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] The Mask Slips, for Those with Eyes to See: Preparing for the Real Pandemic
This smells more like yet an other conspiracy theory. There is no such a thing like a Tamiflu vaccine. Tamiflu, Oseltamivir is NOT a vaccine.: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oseltamivir it is an antiviral drug that slows the spread of influenza (flu) virus between cells in the body by stopping the new virus from chemically cutting ties with its host cell. 35 of the 50 million Japanese have already had it, it is also not brandnew or untested. Some side effects are known, but , I don't see how this can be used to eradicate other colors... Grts Bruno M. At 16:48 21/09/2009, Alex Rodriguez wrote: An article related to the Tamiflu Vaccine. Worth reading. - Last week, many of the aboriginal people in the remote west coast village of Ahousaht were innoculated with the tamiflu vaccine. Today, over a hundred of them are sick, and the sickness is spreading. http://www.republicoflakotah.com/2009/the-mask-slips-for-those-with-eyes-to-see-preparing-for-the-real-pandemic/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] U. S. Head of Military Intelligence Publically States 9/11 was Staged Event
Bob, Your link is still dodgy, why don't you use Tiny URL or something like it? http://tinyurl.com/ Your link ( the http:// could have been left off to start with ) www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentviewcomment_id=158 would then look like this, (and always work on all forums and list servers): http://tinyurl.com/la7x98 but if you like it, it may look like this : http://tinyurl.com/bobs-9-11-conspiracy-theory And imho it is always useful if you push such big items into a discussion group, even if you truly believe the conspiracy theory, you may simple check first what skeptical debunkers of the same subject have to say; It may prepare you fore what opposite comments will come up; or even make yourself think, really think, and you may decide to not forward crap to a group were you're known, and keep your reputation in good shape. ;-) E.G: http://www.debunking911.com/ http://www.jod911.com/ ... As you'll see they have covered almost all angles, and with allot more then 'believes' and 'assumptions'. And how has this something to do with biofuel or sustainability? Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 00:30 10/09/2009, From: bmolloy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Keith, The link on my last post was dodgy. This one works better http://www.worldarchitecturenews.com/index.php?fuseaction=wanappln.commentv iewcomment_id=158 If not, the full article is available below. As for facts: The discovery of nano-thermite in the WTC dust was published in The Open Chemical Physics Journal in April 2009. Regards, Bob. CONSPIRACY THEORY OR HIDDEN TRUTH? THE 9/11 ENIGMAS... Richard Gage, AIA, Gregg Roberts, and David Chandler Richard Gage, AIA has been a practicing San Francisco Bay Area architect for more than 20 years, and is a registered member of the American Institute of Architects. Most recently he worked on a $400M mixed-use facility in Las Vegas NV. But he is also the founder and CEO of Architects Engineers for 9/11 Truth, now numbering over 800 A/Es, calling for a new investigation into the destruction of all 3 WTC high-rises on 9/11. Gage has spoken at over 100 events, reaching 20 U.S. states and 8 countries. He has been invited to present in 14 cities Australia, New Zealand, and Japan before the end of this year. As the anniversary of the events approaches, Gage tells WAN why he thinks there are hidden depths to the destruction of the World Trade Centre... .. CUT.. If it doesn't start off with the preferred conclusion-of-choice and then go in search of the facts to prove it, but instead simply goes in search of facts, along with all the patient and careful cross-checking that takes, and then emerges with a fact-based conclusion that checks out, or even with just some hard facts without a conclusion well then, that's different. But AFAIK it hasn't happened yet, and don't hold yer breath. Best Keith == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] A wind turbine for your home
http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/small-wind-home/ grts Bruno M. ~~ At 03:11 21/06/2009, you wrote: Andrew, Andrew Spagnolo wrote: David and everyone, Thank you for the clarification. Perhaps you could help me clear up another issues regarding this wind turbine. The only thing I can be sure of is that there's no way to the end of the forest except perhaps what Keith implied, which is calling the company. Even then, it could easily take some persistence to find anyone who knows how to answer your questions. Now the windmill advertises an output of about 2 KW, yet i fails to observe or the add failed to mention at what wind speed that would be attained. If that is the average output, one could assume that the device would be more the able to power my, or the average US household, yet the add stated you can only expect 15-18%, while also stating that you could expect it to pay for itself in 12-36 months. You can find average wind speed for most states and countries on the web. Sometimes the data has better granularity; most particularly if you have a reporting weather station near you, as I do a mile or so away at Aurora Airport, and at the County's Ag research station. That gets me closer than most, but on my land I have a number of large trees, some of which will shield the wind, depending on its direction. Relying on someone else's data in this regard is not like getting data on solar or rain fall, both of which tend to be more regular across larger areas. But wind is far more variable. Thus, depending on how serious you are, it may be that you would want to purchase a weather station that provides and allows you to record wind speed, and put it on or near the spot where you think you may want to put a turbine, but more importantly, if possible, at the height you want to put it. (There are fudge factors you can use to estimate the effect of height on your data if you can't get high enough...) You may be able to correlate what you find during a given month with the closest weather station, but you may want to actually visit the site and see whether how their equipment is set up. (Wind from the north may be shadowed at their location, for example, as compared with your location, which would introduce a variable that may not be present when the wind is from the south...) The average wind speed is one key and critical factor you would need to have in hand, or to get as close as you can with regional data. The other important hidden variable is the efficiency of the system, which can be measured in a number of ways. The manufacturer is going to want to tell you efficiency of output at the turbine, which is fine, but to get to the number you want you will be concerned with systemic efficiency. The efficiency of the turbine is merely the first number in the chain. Unfortunately I don't have time at the moment to offer a means of translating this data into your payback number (sorry), but I'm sure there are articles scattered across a number of websites that would get you closer. Anyone have links? d. -- David William House The Complete Biogas Handbook |www.completebiogas.com| == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] New el cheapo VW commuter car
Bob, nice article but it is at least half an hoax, it is not newly developed but it is an old concept car of the past, from 2001 or 2002; And if they gonna make a small production serie of it; the price is also incorrect / made up. you can not even buy a carbon fiber bicycle for 600 bucks, so this Carbon fiber car will cost much more. But the fuel economy shows what big car makers ( here Volkswagen ) can do if they want to. This is one of the sources that spread this hoax: http://www.caradvice.com.au/25172/volkswagen-introduces-worlds-most-economical-car/ This reveals the date of first appearance: http://www.volkswagenag.com/vwag/vwcorp/content/en/innovation/research_vehicles/1_litre_car.html A demo testdrive on the public freeway, in front of journalists done by the big chief of VW in Germany himself, Dr. Ferdinand Piëch, showed an even better real live fuel economy, 0.89Liters/100 KM ( 264 MPG ). And a 1 L/100km 235 MPG 2 seater concept car also from VW, shown in 2007: http://www.motorauthority.com/vw-boss-confirms-1-liter-car-for-2010.html VW has already made a 4seater 3L/100km ( 78MPG) car, the LUPO 3L, http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Volkswagen_Lupo with a 3 cyl 1200cc (73 cu. in.) diesel engine; it did that 3L/100Km in reality too, i ones took a ride in one. Woman liked it much for driving in and around the city. I tell you more, this road legal production car is already history, aka back out of production. ( 1998 till 2005 ) it was a bit to expensive because made out of aluminum, so sales numbers stayed to low, and VW is not Chrysler, so they stopped the production and made other more wanted and good cars. ;-) Grts Bruno M. At 00:04 14/05/2009, Jim Worthy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: There are several thoughts that occur to me relative to Dawie's comments. You note If it's aimed at China... and Is it desirable to introduce this pattern where it does not exist? In the main, I agree with your criticism within the constraints of your argument. But what if your assumptions about VW's intended market are incorrect? As one of those millions of wage slave commuters who live and work in a 'developed' country (the US), I am looking for viable ways of transitioning to a more sustainable life style. I would welcome a more efficient and effective commuter vehicle that represents a real incremental improvement in that direction. Granted that is not nearly as good as generating a livelihood in a self-sufficient environment with a zero-carbon foot print, but I have trouble seeing how I can achieve that next week or next year. Maybe that is due to deficiencies on my part but to me it is currently a constraint on my set of viable improvement options. I suspect that is true of many of my fellow wage slaves. In the mean time, whilst I struggle to a more enlightened state of existence, I do appreciate the prospect of marginal improvements in the configuration of my lifestyle. Is this wrong? Contemptible? Perhaps VW's intent is purely commercial and they recognize an emerging market of people like myself who see such a vehicle as providing that marginal increment of improvement. I should also add that the safety concerns expressed by other posters are significant issues that would influence any hypothetical 'buy' decision on my part and perhaps preclude it. My basic perception is that 'solutions' inevitability are based on a set of assumptions that are seldom universally applicable. I also think that solutions are not single events, e.g. buy a fuel efficient/low carbon footprint car, but instead are correlated to a more balanced way of understanding oneself and our relation to the world and making consistently better choices as we make our way through. Jim Worthy --- On Tue, May 12, 2009 at 11:50 PM, Dawie Coetzee [EMAIL PROTECTED]wrote: There are a couple of things that bother me about this. 1. If it's aimed at China it is intended to replace not a full-size American pick-up truck but a bicycle. That is to say, it is intended to increase dependence on motor vehicles in a context that has survived on bicycles and feet for a long time: though my suspicion is that that state of affairs was hitherto maintained through force rather than sound spatial planning. But even then, is it not better to introduce sound spatial planning to suit the bicycles, rather than cars to suit the unsound spatial planning? 2. That level of aerodynamic efficiency etc. rather suggests high-speed movement along roads of very good quality. How suitable is this vehicle for bad roads? How suitable is this vehicle for roads intended primarily for pedestrians, bicycles, hand-carts, animal-drawn carts, etc. because there aren't enough motor vehicles to warrant special high-speed roads? Or must one increase the vehicle fleet in order to justify the roads in order to justify this paragon
[Biofuel] EPA Rolls Out Environmental Manual for Biodiesel Facilities
FYI: http://nbb.grassroots.com/09Releases/Manual/ NEWSFOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE Contact: Jenna Higgins/NBB 800-841-5849 Nov. 13, 2008 EPA Rolls Out Environmental Manual for Biodiesel Facilities Agencys Guidelines Align with Biodiesels Environmental Goals JEFFERSON CITY, Mo. As the biodiesel industry continues to grow, the National Biodiesel Board welcomes a new Environmental Protection Agency guide that will help the industry navigate existing environmental regulations. EPA Region 7 today released the user-friendly manual that identifies environmental regulatory rules and requirements for the construction and operation of biodiesel production facilities. Region 7 Administrator John B. Askew said, We are taking steps to provide useful tools to help biodiesel facilities comply with environmental regulations. The manual serves as a road map of federal environmental information. EPA is addressing our nation's growing energy demand in a way that supports our goals for a clean environment, supports farmers and rural America, and supports greater energy security. As in other parts of the nation, the Midwestern states of EPA Region 7 are active on America's renewable fuels frontier. Through the long-term efforts of the agricultural and biodiesel community, rural residents are seeing growth in the construction of biodiesel plants and the supporting infrastructure. The manual provides practical examples to ensure compliance with environmental regulations. EPA includes a contact directory of key federal and state officials. EPA Region 7 staff members are available to answer questions about the applicability of environmental requirements to renewable fuel facilities. Joe Jobe, NBB CEO, commended EPA on developing the manual for the industry. We appreciate that the document includes EPAs recognition that biodiesel contributes to the wellbeing of the environment by significantly reducing greenhouse gas emissions and other pollutants, he said. Biodiesel use is a viable part of protecting the environment, and we look forward to working closely with the agency on future mutual goals. The manual also cites research that shows the production of biodiesel compared to the production of petroleum fuels generates 78% less carbon dioxide, 79% less wastewater, and 96% less hazardous waste. An EPA Region 7 biofuels team of engineers, scientists, and environmental protection specialists developed the manual after seeking input from a variety of stakeholders. The biodiesel manual is available at the following Web site: www.epa.gov/region07/priorities/agriculture/index.htm#biofuels . Biodiesel is a domestically produced, renewable alternative to diesel fuel and can be made from plant oils, animal fats, recycled restaurant grease or new sources such as algae. As of September 2008, there were 176 biodiesel plants in operation nationwide with an annual production capacity of 2.6 billion gallons per year. The NBB is the national trade association of the biodiesel industry and is the coordinating body for biodiesel research and development in the U.S. # # # For more details on biodiesel's benefits, visit www.biodiesel.org . == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] New safety video about biodiesel preparation.
Produced by Jon Van Gerpen Dept. head of biological agricultural engenieering University of Idaho. a part of the National Biodiesel Education Program. FYI: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFKUUhYWlbo ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Earth Science Literacy Draft Document community comment
FYI: ~~ Earth Science Literacy Draft Document community comment From: Robert M. Ross [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 6, 2008 The Earth Science Literacy Draft Document is open for community comment The NSF-supported Earth Science Literacy Initiative has prepared a draft document outlining what every citizen should know about earth science, and we are seeking community input on the draft. We hope that you will take the time to provide your input, because this document will provide a clear and concise summary of the fundamental ideas in earth science for policy makers, educators, students, and the general public. In order to read and comment on the draft, please go to www.earthscienceliteracy.orgbefore October 31st, 2008. We will then incorporate community comments, add graphics, and release a revised draft by early December. The final document will be printed toward the end of January. This document complements the efforts of the Ocean, Climate and Atmospheric science communities in defining the big ideas and supporting concepts essential for an earth system literate public. The Earth Sciences draft was developed through an NSF-supported, 350-participant online workshop held in May, 2008 and a 35-participant, in-person writing workshop held in July, 2008. These workshops brought together scientists from a broad representation of the geosciences, including mineralogists, petrologists, resource explorationists, sedimentologists and stratigraphers, paleontologists, tectonicists, geophysicists, geomorphologists, low-temperature geochemists and biogeochemists, continental dynamicists, volcanologists, geohazard specialists, and members of the freshwater hydrologic science community. This is a critical time for our science the geosciences can play a critical role in helping society meet the challenges of natural hazards and human impacts on the environment. Please help us make this document the best it can be! ***Special Announcement: GSA Town Hall Meeting*** There will be a Town Hall meeting at the GSA Meeting on The Earth Science Literacy Initiative. The meeting will be at noon on Monday, October 6, in Room 342AD of the George R. Brown Convention Center. All are welcome to hear of the progress of the ESLI project and offer commentary. Robert M. Ross Associate Director for Outreach Paleontological Research Institution and its Museum of the Earth 1259 Trumansburg Rd. Ithaca, NY 14850 P: 607.273.6623 x18 F: 607.273.6620 Now Showing at Museum of the Earth: Missing the Forest for the Trees: The Beauty of Petrified Wood Oct 4, 2008 - Jan 18, 2009 Visit us on the web at http://www.museumoftheearth.org Associated PRI/Museum website addresses: www.InformalEarthScience.org www.TeacherFriendlyGuide.org www.VirtualFieldwork.org ~~ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] HELP TO NEW BIODIESEL HOMEBREWER
hi Andres, Wrong question I'm afraid, Are U sure it's soap? And 0.276 inches doesn't tell us anything, 0.276 on what? 69 inches of BD, sounds good, on 0.69 inches of BD, sounds very bad. and is your container of a regular shape? Else inches don't mean a thing.what wrong with %volume. And please tell us more details: what oil did you use, was every thing dry before you started : oil, caustic and methanol? how did you wash, with what, etc ... Grts Bruno M. At 07:31 24/09/2008, andres alejandro portilla [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello,,Could somebody tell me if 0.276 inches of soap is normal after first washing of biodiesel, please? -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... = ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Damage . . .
some other tips to prevent stealing of crops : If you don't like to go for 10 feet high barbed and electrified wire; a small trick that sometimes helps is put up a sign that the crops are just sprayed with something toxic. Or if you have some fence, put up a sign of beware of the dog with a picture of a big scary dog on it. Grow an hedge around the garden with sticky needles on it, they'll chose an easier garden to rob. A pair of goose ducks or turkey's are good watch dogs and keep 'm out. ( if you have some separate space around the vegie garden ) grts Bruno M. At 17:42 2/09/2008, Jesse Frayne [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Robert and Kirk, We have had a garden on public land for 5 years, the first year everything was stolen. I saw a guy leaving with a grocery bag full of my tomatoes. I said, say, I hope you enjoy my garden. He says, oh, gee, I thought this was the schoolkids' garden. Like that make it okay! It's puzzling how most people don't understand how much work it is to grow stuff, they only see, wow, I love swiss chard! My daughter put a string around the garden last year, with a sign: Please, until we make our garden bigger, and can share with more people, leave us some of the produce. We had 30 apples on our young tree, someone took them all in one night, and broke branches too. Tree was so pissed off it put out only one blossom this spring. We have had no theft this year EXCEPT THE CORN! So your letter struck me. I think it's finally sinking in. Perhaps also due to the surveillance of a great family of little Muslim kids who live near the garden and who come to help me putter around sometimes. They're very invested and mourn each loss. Anyway, very sorry about your marauders. They just don't know what they're doing, eh? Stealing stuff before it's even ripe. I shrug my shoulders. Best Jesse Frayne itsdinner.ca Neighbourhood catering and general joie de livre --- On Sun, 8/31/08, robert and benita [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: robert and benita [EMAIL PROTECTED] Kirk McLoren wrote: No they wontcontinue to grow. -- That's what I figured! Immature corn is a delicacy. The bottom half of the ear should have something. Most of them do. I planted two rows every two weeks, so we've got a range of maturity happening in there. Worse, I decided to use the aboriginal method of maize planting this year. Once the corn stalks came up, I planted pole beans, and once I saw the pole beans come up, I planted squash. The beans have climbed all over the maize, so now that the stalks have been damaged, a lot of the beans are ruined, too! Trampling the maize also had the effect of trampling the squash, so really, whoever did this has ruined THREE crops for me! If someone did something like that to me they would have bad luck. If only I could strike such terror into the heart of whomever did this . . . robert luis rabello == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] James Hansen : Global Warming Twenty Years Later, Tipping Points Near
This piece has just been posted on the site of the World Watch institute, it's rather long, so to save some space, I only post the intro here, you can read the rest via the link. The autor is James Hansen Dr. James E. Hansen, a physicist by training, directs the NASA Goddard Institute for Space Studies, a laboratory of the Goddard Space Flight Center and a unit of the Columbia University Earth Institute, but he testifies here as a private citizen. Grts Bruno M. ~~ Guest Opinion: Global Warming Twenty Years Later by James Hansen on June 23, 2008 Tipping Points Near http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5798http://www.worldwatch.org/node/5798 Today, I will testify to Congress about global warming, 20 years after my June 23, 1988 testimony, which alerted the public that global warming was under way. There are striking similarities between then and now, but one big difference. Again a wide gap has developed between what is understood about global warming by the relevant scientific community and what is known by policymakers and the public. Now, as then, frank assessment of scientific data yields conclusions that are shocking to the body politic. Now, as then, I can assert that these conclusions have a certainty exceeding 99 percent. The difference is that now we have used up all slack in the schedule for actions needed to defuse the global warming time bomb. The next President and Congress must define a course next year in which the United States exerts leadership commensurate with our responsibility for the present dangerous situation. Otherwise, it will become impractical to constrain atmospheric carbon dioxide, the greenhouse gas produced in burning fossil fuels, to a level that prevents the climate system from passing tipping points that lead to disastrous climate changes that spiral dynamically out of humanity's control. Changes needed to preserve creation, the planet on which civilization developed, are clear. But the changes have been blocked by special interests, focused on short-term profits, who hold sway in Washington and other capitals. I argue that a path yielding energy independence and a healthier environment is, barely, still possible. It requires a transformative change of direction in Washington in the next year. ... see rest of the article at above link. = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 270.4.1/1516 - Release Date: 24/06/2008 7:53 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Keith, hydroponics and charcoal soils
Hi Chip, Our archives are not that hard to go trough, if you've got a good search term; Try Terra Pretato find stuff about charcoal soils http://www.mail-archive.com/sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org/info.html And if you like more of the same, there is an other very active list only dedicated to that subject, and filled with many Terra Preta specialists, researchers and experimenters, Site: http://terrapreta.bioenergylists.org/ List: http://bioenergylists.org/mailman/listinfo/terrapreta_bioenergylists.org For hydrophonics, ( I don't see how both subjects relates with each other) and that doesn't sounds so sustainable, can't Google guide you to a forum? Hope this helps. Grts Bruno M. At 19:04 30/05/2008, Chip Mefford [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hey Keith, I guess I'm just being lazy, but I've been combing the site and the archives for some stuff posted a few years back concerning hydroponics and so-called charcoal soils. (at least, that's what I think they are called) if I'm remembering correctly, you had a pretty concise criticism of both of these technologies, but I have been unable to find the references, clues? -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.24.4/1478 - Release Date: 2/06/2008 7:12 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Sweet sorghum, clean miracle crop for feed and fuel
FYI ;-) Bruno M. www.physorg.com/news129876999.html Sweet sorghum, clean miracle crop for feed and fuel The hardy sweet sorghum plant could be the miracle crop that provides cheap animal feed and fuel without straining the world's food supply or harming the environment, said scientists working on a pilot farming project in India. We consider sweet sorghum an ideal 'smart crop' because it produces food as well as fuel, William Dar, Director General of the non-profit International Crops Research Institute for the Semi-Arid Tropics (ICRISAT) said in a statement. Sweet sorghum (Sorghum bicolor) is the world's fifth largest grain crop after rice, corn, wheat and barley. It grows in dry conditions, tolerates heat, salt and waterlogging, making it an ideal crop for semi-arid areas where many of the world's poor live, ICRISAT agronomist Mark Winslow said in an interview with AFP. The plant grows to a height of 2.6-4.0 meters (8-12 feet) and looks like corn. Its stalks are crushed yielding sweet juice that is fermented and distilled to obtain bioethanol, a clean burning fuel with a high octane rating. It has high positive energy balance, producing about eight units of energy for every unit of energy invested in its cultivation and production, roughly equivalent to sugarcane and about four times greater than the energy produced by corn. Sweet sorghum requires little or no irrigation, limiting the use of fuel-burning water pumps that emit carbon dioxide, the main greenhouse gas contributing to climate change, Winslow said. With proper management, smallholder farmers can improve their incomes by 20 percent compared to alternative crops in dry areas in India, said Dar. In partnership with Rusni Distilleries and some 791 farmers in Andhra Pradesh, India, ICRISAT helped to build and operate the world's first commercial bioethanol plant, which began operations in June 2007. Sweet sorghum in India costs 1.74 dollars to produce a gallon (3.78 liters) of ethanol, compared with 2.19 dollars for sugarcane and 2.12 dollars for corn, the research institute said. Similar public-private-farmer partnership projects are also underway in the Philippines, Mexico, Mozambique and Kenya, as countries search for alternative fuels, India-based ICRISAT added. The United States and European Union are also very interested in making biofuel from sweet sorghum, Winslow said. The US Department of Agriculture is sponsoring an international conference in Houston, Texas, in August to examine the plant's potential in ethanol production. In addition to ethanol, I think (sorghum) is going to be one of the two big crops in the tropics that supply biofuel such as ethanol, the demand for which far exceeds the supply on the world market, Winslow said. It's a win-win situation for developing nations since it allows them to save money they now spend on oil imports and invest it in sweet sorghum-ethanol production in dry areas. He said India could meet its entire fuel needs with 100 bioethanol plants like the the one in Andhra Pradesh, which produces 40,000 liters (10,568 gallons) of ethanol every day. Unlike corn, sweet sorghum is not in high demand in the global food market, so its use in biofuel production would have little impact on food prices and food security, ICRISAT said. Sweet sorghum is grown on more than 42 million hectares (107 million acres) in 99 countries, with United States, Nigeria, India, China, Mexico, Sudan and Argentina its leading producers. © 2008 AFP = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.16/1434 - Release Date: 15/05/2008 7:24 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Why $120 oil is good
http://money.cnn.com/2008/05/07/news/economy/120_oil/index.htm?section=money_topstories Why $120 oil is good NEW YORK (CNNMoney.com) -- With $120 oil not seeming to follow the fundamental law of supply and demand many are wondering if the market is broken. The Federal Reserve has been cutting interest rates, saving Wall Street but sinking the dollar and driving up food and fuel prices. Investors, also called speculators by some, have been pouring money into commodities of all sorts, artificially driving prices higher in an attempt to squeak out healthy profits in the face of falling stock values. But to many, all the financial voodoo is merely a distraction. The fundamental reality of oil - and the thing that makes it so attractive to investors in the first place - is that we are using ever more and finding ever less. High prices are necessary if we are to reduce demand, find new oil, and develop alternative technologies. The market is starting to send a signal: You got to get your alternative in line, said Robert Kaufmann, director of Boston University's Center for Energy and Environmental Studies. Societies that ignore this kind of signal do so at their own peril. Kaufmann isn't promoting the so-called peak oil theory - he doesn't think the world is quickly running out of oil. The problem, he says, is new discoveries of crude in non-OPEC areas like the United States, the North Sea, and Russia have not kept pace with the oil being removed from those places. OPEC, which holds two thirds of the world's crude oil reserves, has seen no drop in global demand despite $120 oil and has little incentive to increase output. It's this supply problem that prompted analysts at Goldman Sachs to reaffirm their prediction of a so-called super spike in oil prices - which could usher in $200-a-barrel crude in the next 6 to 24 months. We believe the current energy crisis may be coming to a head, as a lack of adequate supply growth is becoming apparent, Goldman analysts wrote in a research note Tuesday. That's the supply side of the equation. The demand side is a familiar story - developing regions like China, India and the Middle East are using more and more oil. It's not that this wasn't known last year - when oil was half as expensive as it is now - it's just that the world is moving closer to that tipping point where demand will exceed supply. 'It's a finite resource, said Brian Hicks, co-manager of the Global Resources Fund at U.S. Global Investors, a San Antonio-based mutual fund. The rest of the world wants to live like we do, and there aren't enough resources to keep everyone happy. It's become popular to blame speculators - which would include mutual funds, pension funds, some banks, and anyone else who doesn't ultimately take delivery of a barrel of oil - for the run up in price. Congressman have recently spoken of an orgy of speculation in the commodities markets, and have held hearings into the matter. But most analysts say investors are simply looking at these underlying supply and demand trends and buying oil because they see it going up on its own accord. After all, they can't really be influencing the price of crude, the argument goes, as they generally don't take delivery of the oil and must sell whatever contracts they have at the end of each month. Ultimately, they don't take any oil off the market. Nobody at Goldman Sachs wants to see a fuel truck pull up and say Ok, here's your 60,000 gallons of gasoline,' said Michael Cosgrove, president of the commodities brokerage Amerex Brokers, which handles transactions for both banks and end users of oil like refineries. Ultimately, it's the consumer. Which is one reason why $120 oil is necessary - to limit demand in a supply-constrained world. I think the market is working, said Joseph Stanislaw, an independent energy adviser at the consulting firm Deloitte Touche. It forces us to make decisions as individual consumers that will change our behavior. It needs to be done. Government regulators at the Commodity Futures Trading Commission have also said their studies have produced no evidence that oil speculators are significantly driving up the price of crude. The argument that speculators aren't unduly influencing oil prices is by no means universally accepted. I think the market is totally insane, said Fadel Gheit, a senior energy analyst at the investment firm Oppenheimer. Somebody is playing a game, and we're all paying for it. Gheit said demand has fallen in developed countries, and there is plenty of energy supply - mostly in the form of natural gas - available right here in the United States, if only the oil companies had access to it. Some analysts and politicians have called for increasing the nations oil production by drilling in areas that are currently off limits - like the Arctic National Wildlife Refuge, sections of the Rocky Mountains and off the east and west coasts.
Re: [Biofuel] cure for incurable viral disease
Fritz Kirk, You can make that bull-crap device ( as useless as an Hulda Clark zapper ) yourself easely : 1 of the many links: http://educate-yourself.org/be/beckelectrifierschematicandparts.shtml But did you guy's noticed that this crap has nothing to do with Biofuels...? Grts Bruno M. ~ At 17:19 23/04/2008, Fritz Friesinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Kirk, why are tose Videos all fall short of explaining how to built that device an use it would you know? Thanks Fritz - Original Message - From: Kirk McLoren Sent: Wednesday, April 23, 2008 10:25 AM http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2095786730805958061 Beck video === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.524 / Virus Database: 269.23.3/1393 - Release Date: 23/04/2008 8:12 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Catalytic Fast Pyrolysis, turns biomass into Green gasoline
Catalytic fast pyrolysis turns plant biomass such as wood and grasses into green gasoline - www.sciencedaily.com/releases/2008/04/080407102812.htm ScienceDaily (Apr. 8, 2008) Researchers have made a breakthrough in the development of green gasoline, a liquid identical to standard gasoline yet created from sustainable biomass sources like switchgrass and poplar trees. Reporting in the April 7, 2008 issue of Chemistry Sustainability, Energy Materials (ChemSusChem), chemical engineer and National Science Foundation (NSF) CAREER awardee George Huber of the University of Massachusetts-Amherst (UMass) and his graduate students Torren Carlson and Tushar Vispute announced the first direct conversion of plant cellulose into gasoline components. In the same issue, James Dumesic and colleagues from the University of Wisconsin-Madison announce an integrated process for creating chemical components of jet fuel using a green gasoline approach. While Dumesic's group had previously demonstrated the production of jet-fuel components using separate steps, their current work shows that the steps can be integrated and run sequentially, without complex separation and purification processes between reactors. While it may be five to 10 years before green gasoline arrives at the pump or finds its way into a fighter jet, these breakthroughs have bypassed significant hurdles to bringing green gasoline biofuels to market. It is likely that the future consumer will not even know that they are putting biofuels into their car, said Huber. Biofuels in the future will most likely be similar in chemical composition to gasoline and diesel fuel used today. The challenge for chemical engineers is to efficiently produce liquid fuels from biomass while fitting into the existing infrastructure today. For their new approach, the UMass researchers rapidly heated cellulose in the presence of solid catalysts, materials that speed up reactions without sacrificing themselves in the process. They then rapidly cooled the products to create a liquid that contains many of the compounds found in gasoline. The entire process was completed in under two minutes using relatively moderate amounts of heat. The compounds that formed in that single step, like naphthalene and toluene, make up one fourth of the suite of chemicals found in gasoline. The liquid can be further treated to form the remaining fuel components or can be used as is for a high octane gasoline blend. Green gasoline is an attractive alternative to bioethanol since it can be used in existing engines and does not incur the 30 percent gas mileage penalty of ethanol-based flex fuel, said John Regalbuto, who directs the Catalysis and Biocatalysis Program at NSF and supported this research. In theory it requires much less energy to make than ethanol, giving it a smaller carbon footprint and making it cheaper to produce, Regalbuto said. Making it from cellulose sources such as switchgrass or poplar trees grown as energy crops, or forest or agricultural residues such as wood chips or corn stover, solves the lifecycle greenhouse gas problem that has recently surfaced with corn ethanol and soy biodiesel. Beyond academic laboratories, both small businesses and Fortune 500 petroleum refiners are pursuing green gasoline. Companies are designing ways to hybridize their existing refineries to enable petroleum products including fuels, textiles, and plastics to be made from either crude oil or biomass and the military community has shown strong interest in making jet fuel and diesel from the same sources. Huber's new process for the direct conversion of cellulose to gasoline aromatics is at the leading edge of the new Green Gasoline' alternate energy paradigm that NSF, along with other federal agencies, is helping to promote, states Regalbuto. Not only is the method a compact way to treat a great deal of biomass in a short time, Regalbuto emphasized that the process, in principle, does not require any external energy. In fact, from the extra heat that will be released, you can generate electricity in addition to the biofuel, he said. There will not be just a small carbon footprint for the process; by recovering heat and generating electricity, there won't be any footprint. The latest pathways to produce green gasoline, green diesel and green jet fuel are found in a report sponsored by NSF, the Department of Energy and the American Chemical Society entitled Breaking the Chemical and Engineering Barriers to Lignocellulosic Biofuels: Next Generation Hydrocarbon Biorefineries released April 1. In the report, Huber and a host of leaders from academia, industry and government present a plan for making green gasoline a practical solution for the impending fuel crisis. We are currently working on understanding the
[Biofuel] O.T.: Gore will run for president as independent
News from Grist magazine, they've got this scoop before it reached the headlines in the bigpapers and TV stations. grts Bruno M. P.S.: Maybe better read this online: www.grist.org/news/2008/04/01/gore_prez/index.html ~~ TOP STORY Once More for Gore? Gore will run for president as independent, sources tell Grist You might want to sit down for this: Al Gore will announce his candidacy for president this week, knowledgeable sources tell Grist. Now there's an inconvenient truth for Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama. Gore believes the two Democrats and Republican John McCain aren't giving climate change the urgent attention it deserves, so he's decided to go for the job himself, say Gore advisors who requested anonymity as they aren't authorized to speak to the press. A lifelong Democrat, Gore will run as an independent this time around, aiming to show the American people that climate change is not a partisan issue. He is expected to tap New York City Mayor Michael Bloomberg, also an independent, as his running mate. On Monday of this week, Gore's nonpartisan Alliance for Climate Protection launched a new public education campaign http://gristmill.grist.org/story/2008/3/31/104852/452?source=daily aimed at convincing Americans that climate change is both urgent and solvable. We're guessing that will be the thrust of Gore's presidential campaign as well. Grist exclusive: The scoop on Gore's presidential run === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.3/1354 - Release Date: 1/04/2008 5:38 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Newby
Hi James, To have success with test and other batches, start with water free material, your WVO, oils, and your methanol. Methanol sold in 1 liter bottles for household use, in many cases contains up to 10% or more water ( so called for safety reasons ). Testing for water, for WVO SVO put a drop on a hot plate or pan, when in sizzles there is water in it. For Methanol and other solvents : Laboratory suppliers have a indicator paper to check solvents for water content. There 2 different types: one goes from white to blue, like the one I use on my job: www.mn-net.com/Testpapers/Testpapersforqualitativedeterminations/Watesmo/tabid/10460/language/en-US/Default.aspx an other goes from blue to pink, like this one : www.indigo.com/test-strips/gph-test-strips/cobalt-chloride-test-strips.html Grts Bruno M. At 06:33 30/03/2008, James Pfeiffer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm a newby as well... but have been able to get methanol for my test batches in a 5 gallon size from a local VP Racing Fuels distributor. go to their website to find a distributor in your area. www.vpracingfuels.com/vp_01_fuels.html That said, I haven't had much luck with my initial 1L batches... I'm hoping the quality of the methanol isn't contributing to the problem but I don't really know how to check the quality of the methanol. -- Date: Sat, 29 Mar 2008 15:57:47 -0400 From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Hi, Can anyone give me some info on locating methanol? Just starting up small scale biodiesel processing. thanks, Steve = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.519 / Virus Database: 269.22.1/1349 - Release Date: 29/03/2008 17:02 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Mcgyan Process, new biodiesel process
A new ( or recent ) process of making bio diesel, maybe not for backyard producers, because it uses high pressure and temps, but it uses less water, no caustic catalyst, and they claim also less byproducts, reaction time is seconds instead of hours, it's a continuous process not in batches, using a solid fixed bed catalyst, different feedstocks are possible and no problem with FFA or water; smells like the wet dream of every biodieseler... See also: www.sartec.com/mcgyan.html And for the new company, that is going to use this process: www.evercatfuels.com/ ( They are still busy building the facility right now.) Grts Bruno M. ( NFI) FYI: ~~~ http://augnet.augsburg.edu/news-archives/2008/03_09_08/sartec.html Revolutionary biodiesel discovery starts at Augsburg MARCH 7, 2008 At a joint press conference held this morning in Science Hall 302, Augsburg College and SarTec Corporation officially announced the discovery of a chemical process that could free the United States from its dependence on petroleum diesel fuel. This revolutionary method to make biodiesel started with the curiosity of Augsburg chemistry senior Brian Krohn and ended with three Twin Cities scientists creating the Mcgyan Process. Brian initiated his summer research project by deciding to study new ways to produce biodiesel. After Brian's preliminary research, his professor advised him to contact chemist Dr. Clayton McNeff, an Augsburg alumnus and vice president of SarTec. McNeff, his chief scientist Dr. Ben Yan, and Augsburg's Professor Arlin Gyberg took Brian's idea and created a chemical reaction that has never before been described in scientific literature. As a result of the Mcgyan Process discovery, McNeff co-founded Ever Cat Fuels based in Anoka. It is the only plant in the world using this new method to manufacture biodiesel. Industry analysts have been surprised by how well the Mcgyan Process works and its implications for fuel production worldwide. This process has many advantages over previous biodiesel production methods. It can convert a much wider range of feedstock oils and animal fats into biodiesel, including the byproducts from ethanol production. The Mcgyan Process recycles the catalyst and alcohol necessary to make biodiesel, it reduces the reaction time from hours to seconds, and it doesn't use water or dangerous chemicals. In short, it can make more biodiesel quickly and with a minimal impact on the environment. Click for a description of the process by Dr. McNeff http://augnet.augsburg.edu/news-archives/2008/03_09_08/media/discovery.mov (QuickTime video, ~4 min., 6 MB) Because the Mcgyan Process can use a wider range of renewable oils, it has opened the door to a truly Earth-changing possibility. Algae that capture carbon dioxide can be a source of Mcgyan feedstock oil. The use of algae oil simultaneously reduces the demand on arable land for fuel purposes and scrubs the atmosphere of a greenhouse gas. SarTec has conducted research into using algae oils to supply the Mcgyan Process. The corporation is working on the use of algae to reduce emissions from coal-fired power plants while creating a biodiesel feedstock. A patent is now pending on the Mcgyan Process which is named for the three scientists officially credited with the discovery (McNeff, Gyberg, and Yan). Ever Cat Fuels Corporation is currently producing 50,000 gallons of biodiesel per year and is using it as a power source. Its production capacity will increase to 3 million gallons per year when its new plant begins operation in Isanti later this year. Then, Ever Cat Fuels hopes to sell the technology and equipment to nations around the world. All of these remarkable discoveries started with Brian's experiential learning at Augsburg, which is a fundamental part of the college's learning environment. His research will lead Brian to a promising future in science and create opportunities for Augsburg students for years to come. This one-on-one relationship between professor and student may result in one of modern day's greatest discoveries, says Augsburg President Paul Pribbenow. Augsburg is proud to be in the forefront and grateful that it may lead to a source of on-going funding that will enable us to take our science program to great heights. ~ Another look a like news article about the same stuff: www.duluthbudgeteer.com/articles/index.cfm?id=21755section=homepage = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.518 / Virus Database: 269.21.7/1322 - Release Date: 9/03/2008 12:17 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer?
The solar ready link was screwed up; here is the working link: www.solar2006.org/presentations/forums/f07-kreischer.pdf from this site: www.solar2006.org/ grts Bruno M. ~ At 18:13 8/02/2008, you wrote: Paul, Thanks for pointing me in the right direction. I am presently downloading the first of 19 chapters (1500 pages total) of the revised Draft Environmental Impact Study (DEIS) relating to the development. I have just over a month to read, digest and pass along input/comments regarding the project, to my town planning board. Thanks again, Tom - Original Message - From: Paul S Cantrell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, February 08, 2008 10:29 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Green Developer? Tom, You might want to spend some time on the US Green Building Council (USGBC) website at www.usgbc.org On this page there is a presentation about green homes: www.usgbc.org/DisplayPage.aspx?CMSPageID=1720 Also, here is a presentation that explains exactly what 'solar ready' actually means: www.*solar*2006.org/presentations/forums/f07-kreischer.pdf Hope that is helpful, Paul On Feb 8, 2008 9:50 AM, Thomas Kelly [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello All, I recently attended a presentation by a developer. The presenter used the words green and sustainable in reference to the development. I would appreciate a bit of help. What does it mean when one says that many of the houses will be photo-voltaic ready? I understand that it suggests that they will support the addition of PV cells. Is there anything specifically different about the construction of PV ready houses that makes them different from other houses? Tom == -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.21/1265 - Release Date: 7/02/2008 11:17 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biodiesel made from spent Coffee grounds
FYI grts Bruno M. http://news.rgj.com//apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080123/NEWS02/801230438 Imagine your car buzzed on coffee Lenita Powers ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) RENO GAZETTE-JOURNAL January 23, 2008 In the near future, coffee-lovers could help the environment whenever they buy those lattes and cappuccinos, thanks to a Reno professor's discovery of a new source for biodiesel fuel. The epiphany came to Manoranjan Misra in a cold cup of coffee. One night, I had left a cup of coffee out, and the next morning, I saw this thin layer of oil around the edges, said Misra, a chemical and metallurgical professor at the University of Nevada, Reno. He discovered the oil was triglyceride. With the help of post-doctoral scholar Susanta K. Mohapatra and graduate student Narasimha Kondamudi, Misra developed a patent- pending process to extract the oil from spent coffee grounds to produce a high-quality biodiesel fuel. The 59-year-old researcher said almost 3 million gallons of biodiesel could be produced annually from the more than 200 million pounds of coffee grounds Starbucks alone generates each year in the United States. The coffee-grounds alternative fuel has a number of advantages over biodiesel produced from corn or soy, Misra said. He said it will be cheaper, only $1.06 to $1.33 a gallon compared with corn and soy, which is $1.78 to $2.90. It's also more stable, giving it a longer shelf life, he said. After the triglyceride is extracted, the coffee grounds can be used a third time: compressed into pellets to heat homes with pellet-burning stoves. And the coffee grounds-based fuel doesn't add to higher food costs and world hunger that using corn and soy does. People making biodiesel out of corn and soy is a big issue because the prices for those things go up, and that has socioeconomic impacts, Misra said. Our objective is to take waste material and make biodiesel fuel without taking the food from the plate. Brazil has made biodiesel fuel from whole coffee beans, but Misra said his process is the first to use spent coffee grounds. He said Nevada's mining industry, with its huge vehicles, would be a prime target for the cheaper fuel, which could be available within two years. Jane Feldman, energy chair for the Toyaibe Chapter of the Sierra Club, said the coffee-ground idea is worth exploring. But whenever you take municipal waste and convert it into energy, you have to ensure you aren't creating more toxins that are released into the atmosphere, Feldman said. Misra doesn't believe that will be a problem. He said a laboratory test of the biodiesel fuel will be conducted soon and then tested in an engine at Bio Diesel Solutions Inc. in Sparks. Right now, the only thing Misra said his new biodiesel fuel exudes into the air is the smell of coffee -- stale coffee. Tina Nappe, another Sierra Club member, questioned whether using coffee grounds would be cost-effective in Nevada or only in areas where coffee houses are close together so the grounds could be collected easily. The whole transportation issue would have to be worked out to make sure it's not an environmental trade-off, Nappe said. It sounds like there's still some work to be done, but it is an intriguing idea. A spokesman for Starbucks said the company doesn't have enough information about Misra's work to comment about whether it would provide grounds for his biodiesel fuel. Starbucks began a Grounds for Your Garden recycling program in 1995, which provides residents with spent coffee grounds in recycled bags on a first-come, first-served basis. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.516 / Virus Database: 269.19.10/1240 - Release Date: 23/01/2008 17:47 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Sustainable Biodiesel Summit 2008
Sustainable Biodiesel Summit 2008 February 2nd 3rd 2008 Gaylord Palms Resort Convention Center, Kissimmee, Florida The 5th Annual Sustainable Biodiesel Summit is the place to be to learn why sustainability is important to the industry, share technical experience and exchange best practices tailored specifically to sustainable biodiesel production and distribution. Conveniently preceding the National Biodiesel Board's Annual conference and located in the same convention center. As you have come to expect, the Sustainable Biodiesel Summit will provide: Informative Inspirational Speakers Rich Practical Session Content Exceptional Networking Opportunities with experts and colleagues For more information about the Sustainable Biodiesel Summit visit our frequently updated website: www.sustainable-biodiesel.org Please forward to interested individuals and groups.~ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.5/1190 - Release Date: 19/12/2007 19:37 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Ultrasonic Biodiesel production.
I don't know if this is really useful to backyard biodieselers, but some years a go i was thinking of way's to accelerate the BD processing, or to convert batch processing to a continuous flow trough system. So i thought if we can use in line static mixers and an ultrasonic device, maybe we end up with faster production, higher yields and lower energy costs. O.K., that al matters much more to professionals then to amateurs, but i guess it's the investment that shall with hold the private BDmaker from going that route. Anyway, I just found this link that show's most of what i was dreaming of. So there goes my dream of patenting it and getting rich. ;-)) But I give you this link also for the other info and links on that site. And Keith may already know that this is a good BD site. ( because they also link to his JTF site ;-) www.hielscher.com/ultrasonics/biodiesel_transesterification_01.htm#Biodiesel_Manufacturing_System orhttp://tinyurl.com/2pa4nd Grts Bruno M. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.4/1187 - Release Date: 16/12/2007 11:36 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] recycled building materials
I' didn't hear of blowing in secondhand packing beads, won't be easy because of large and irregular sizes, but shredded and sieved must be do-able, but here in Belgium there is a company, Thiers-Horizon, who for more then 20 years, collects secondhand, used, expanded polystyrene, ( out of disassembled fridges etc ), and mix it with a proprietary cement mix to make a kind of isocrete, called Isobet and Styrobet, a lightweight concrete to make insolating roofs, or to give (big) flat roofs a minimum sloop ( and in the meanwhile ad a bit of insulation value ) before the roof gets a new layer of roofing ( bitumen stuff). They have also indoor applications. Their web site is available not only in dutch but also in french, German Spanish and English: www.isobet.com/site/default.asp?lang=enmaintype=productsubtype=isostyro ... Just as an example of the possibilities. Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 12:56 14/12/2007, Jason Mier [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: has anyone ever heard of using secondhand packing beads to insulate a house instead of blown in fiberglass? they wouldnt compress like glass, and they can be vacuum packed for storage. i thought of it at work watching the shippers collect packing beans out of the boxes. i think they send them off to be recycled, but how many times do they get carted around the world before they get dumped or burned? _ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.1/1183 - Release Date: 13/12/2007 9:15 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] What's Wrong With This Picture
It are not placebo additives, They sell you a so called secret red additive, that might contain a emulsifier, a red color, and some solvent to lower the viscosity, if naphthalene ( mothballs) is added, that will also give it a distinct smell, giving the customer the idea that it is something special and something strong. You have to add then further Xylene and / or an other solvents like Kerosene that mainly sinks the viscosity and flash point. If you add the additives first, their synthetic biofuel will then have an other benefit, it will be easier to filter. Their formula looks to be easier then real bioD production, thats true, but most work or effort for many will be to get enough WVO. It's here in most EU countries forbidden to collect WASTE veggie oil, as a private person, without a permit. And you can get no permit for transport a few barrels on the back of your pickup or in your trunk. If you are unable to gather free WVO, their product is useless. Grts Bruno M. At 02:50 12/12/2007, Chris wrote: Hi Gustl and Ken, If kerosene and GASOLINE is used, then what they may be doing is diluting the vegetable oil to lower viscosity and lessen the likelihood of injector clogging. The product itself may just be placebo. (Heck! Why didn't I think of that? NOT!) Best, Chris -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, December 11, 2007 12:21 AM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] What's Wrong With This Picture Hallo Ken, Not sure but according to my wife's niece's boyfriend who uses the stuff you put 1/2 gallon kerosene, 1/4 gallon gasoline, cetane improver and the secret ingredients into wvo and then after 5 minutes you filter it 3 times, the last time being a water absorbtion filtering, and put it directly into your tank. This is with 20 gallons of wvo. Also, I am at my daughter's house and I may have the kerosene/gasoline ratios mixed up. Adam, the boyfriend, says he has been using it for about a month and everythng he told me he got straight from the website including how dangerous it is to use methanol and how expensive it is and how less expensive it is to use this stuff, etc., etc., etc. Perhaps some of the Germans on the list have an inkling of what he is talking about since it is claimed to have been used there in the immediate post WWII time. Sorry I can't be of more help. Happy Happy, Gustl -- - Hello all! Has anyone checked them out and find out what's in that secret formulation they've got and what it really does to the waste vegie oil? I'm just curious. best regards, Ken - Hallo, Check out this website if you want to see how well some folks talk out both sides of their mouths. http://www.dieselsecret.com No, it isn't Bio-diesel! Yes, it is the only true Bio-diesel! The Germans at Mercedes have been doing this since the post World War II years but we have the only proprietary ingredients! On, and on, and on. Same old same old. Happy Happy, Gustl ...snip of superfluous stuff... ___ -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.17.0/1180 - Release Date: 10/12/2007 14:51 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Bio-gasoline from sugars
FYI: ~~ www.bgtbiogasoline.com/ BGT Biogasoline possesses intellectual property for the creation of hexane and heptanol from sugars. Specifically, the company ferments sugars (from corn or cellulosic products) into butyric acid, and then either uses Kolbe electrolysis to convert the butyric acid into hexane or a packed bed reactor to create heptanone. The end products, hexane and heptanone, are hydrocarbons which can be readily substitute or be mixed with traditional gasoline. Hexane is already used today as a common constituent of gasoline but the process efficiency is slightly less than ethanol. Heptanone is produced with the same efficiency as ethanol but has 40% more energy (BTU) per gallon. Given a US gasoline demand of approximately 140 billion gallons/year, the demand for hexane and heptanone is correspondingly large. These biogasolines can be used for fuel in any standard gasoline engine because the properties match traditional gasoline from petroleum (heptanone requires a small percentage of octane booster to match gasoline). Ethanol (E85) requires a special engine and has lower combustion energy and corresponding fuel economy. = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.2/1142 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 17:44 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] BD disinfo from SVO kit vendors
Jan, SVO having a high boiling point doesn't mean it can't be used instead of dinodiesel in a diesel car, because, ... normal Diesel fuel is also completely evaporated before combustion. What you need is a fine mist, not evaporated fuel in a diesel motor. Dino diesel has a boiling point, rather a boiling-range, between 340 and 400°C, so even dino juice will not be much vaporized at the time of ignition. But it's possible that the higher the viscosity, boiling point, and vapor pressure is, the more difficult it is for your dieselcar's hardware to make the ultimate mist who gives the ideal burning of all fuel components. Thats why SVO conversion kits alway's have a fuel heather device in it to lower the viscosity so the pump - injector combo can produce a optimal ( or as close as possible ) mist. At 95°C sunflower oil has around the same viscosity then DD at 15°C. DOE and other governmental organizations still claim that SVO will shorten the live span of your motor and more cooking and reduced motoroil live span will appear. Mixing with dinojuice or an additive can also help but is not the best or preferred option if you want to go fossil free. What additive did you use or tested? Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 18:30 20/11/2007, Jan wrote: Hi all, I find it difficult to embrace any SVO technology. That is for many reasons, but the most outstanding is the high boiling point of SVO:s. Canola vaporizes completely at no less than 650-700oC, which is far too high for modern diesel engines which have a limit of acceptance at approx 350oC. This means that the SVO cannot combust completely in a diesel engine. This leads to deposits in the engine, some of them lethal to the engine, and lubricating oil contamination. This is a fact that no SVO kit can cure. I was into a SVO project during the 90:s and we found one additive that could keep the deposits at a certain level. But the composition of the additive was such, that the handling of the fuel became environmentally undesirable, also from the human health point of view. If somebody has an attractive technical/chemical solution for this I would be very interested to hear about it. Jan Warnqvist - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, November 20, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: [Biofuel] BD disinfo from SVO kit vendors See: The SVO vs biodiesel argument: http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_svovsbd.html = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.16.1/1141 - Release Date: 20/11/2007 11:34 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] new technology to convert biomass to chemicals and fuels
FYI: ~~ www.greencarcongress.com/2007/11/khosla-and-bioe.html Khosla and BIOeCON Form New Bio-Oil Joint Venture 1 November 2007 Khosla Ventures and BIOeCON [ www.bio-e-con.com/ ], a Netherlands-based research network focused on developing new technology to convert biomass to chemicals and fuels, have formed http://media.prnewswire.com/en/jsp/search.jsp?searchtype=fulloption=headlinescriteriadisplay=showresourceid=3594869 a joint ventureKiOR, Inc.to develop and commercialize BIOeCON's Biomass Catalytic Cracking (BCC) process. BCC technology converts lignocellulosic biomass into a bio-oil product that can be further upgraded to transportation fuels and chemicals. The BIOeCON biomass catalytic cracking process lowers the pyrolysis temperature resulting in a higher quality bio-oil product. Khosla Ventures is providing the Series A funding. In addition to furthering BCC development, KiOR will prepare for raising significantly more capital in the next two to three years. The key technical problem in the conversion of cellulosic biomass into usable fuels is how to open up the inaccessible solid fibrous woody material, so that it can be effectively transformed. Most of the existing processes to unlock the woody structures are quite costly and intensive of energy or chemicals. BIOeCON has developed a simple non-energy intensive way to make the woody biomass accessible to catalysts and convert to a bio-oil product with significantly improved product properties compared to other thermal-chemical processes. Paul O'Connor, founder and president of BIOeCON BIOeCON's process is based on catalytic pyrolysis, as opposed to classic pyrolysis. Although classic pyrolysis is a simple and effective process with no high capital costs, the resulting bio-oil is, according to BIOeCON, of low yield and product quality. Tarry and high in acidity, the bio-oil requires significant post-treating. The BCC process also has no high capital costs, but adds a proprietary, novel catalyst technology to lower the pyrolysis temperature with a resulting improvement in the yield and quality of the end product, which BIOeCon calls Green Oil. Earlier this year, BIOeCON joined [ www.bio-e-con.com/index.php?option=com_contenttask=viewid=130Itemid=21] a consortium with several companies (including Akzo Nobel, Albemarle, ExxonMobil and Shell Global Solutions International B.V.) and several Dutch universities to participate in the CatchBio (Catalysis for sustainable Chemicals from Biomass) research project initiated by NIOK (Dutch Institute for Catalyst Research). CatchBio initiates an 8-year research program in the field of catalytic biomass conversion, with the goal of processing the various components present in biomass (cellulose, hemi-cellulose, lignin, proteins and oils) in useful fuels, chemicals and pharmaceuticals. The kick-off for the project is 23 November. Resources BiomassWaste Conversion: Sustainable path to Renewable Fuels www.bio-e-con.com/images/stories/pdf/bioecon%20september%202007%20btl%20conference%20vienna.pdf Paul OConnor. Catalytic cracking: The Future of an Evolving Process, [ http://tinyurl.com/2yb3ss ] Studies in Surface Science and Catalysis, Volume 166, 2007, Pages 227-251 === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.503 / Virus Database: 269.15.19/1106 - Release Date: 2/11/2007 21:46 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Best Country's for producing BD :
www.renewableenergyaccess.com/rea/news/story?id=50328src=rss 19 oktober 2007 Examining the World's Potential to Produce Biodiesel Researchers rank 226 countries according to their potential to make large volumes of biodiesel at low cost. by Madeline Fisher What do the countries of Thailand, Uruguay and Ghana have in common? They all could become leading producers of biodiesel, says a study from the University of Wisconsin-Madison Nelson Institute for Environmental Studies. The ease of manufacturing biodiesel from vegetable oils and animal fats has made it one of the most promising, near-term alternatives to fossil fuels. Seeking to understand which nations are best positioned today to enter the burgeoning biodiesel market, researchers Matt Johnston and Tracey Holloway of the Nelson Institute's Center for Sustainability and the Global Environment (SAGE) ranked 226 countries according to their potential to make large volumes of biodiesel at low cost. Scheduled for inclusion in the Oct. 24 journal Environmental Science and Technology, the analysis uncovered many of the usual suspects, including the United States, a top soybean grower; and Brazil, already a major biodiesel producer. The Netherlands, Germany, Belgium and Spain also cracked the top ten in overall volume potential. But the researchers say the study's true motivation was to identify developing countries that already export significant amounts of vegetable oil for profit, but may not have considered refining it into biodiesel. By exporting biodiesela higher value commoditythese countries could improve their trade balances, says Johnston, or use the fuel to offset their own energy needs. A lot of these countries don't have any petroleum resources and so they're having to import petroleum, he says. At the same time, they're exporting vegetable oil that they could be turning into biodiesel and using domestically. Overall, the study ranked Malaysia, Thailand, Colombia, Uruguay and Ghana as the developing nations most likely to attract biodiesel investment, not only because of their strong agricultural industries, but also due to their relative safety and stability, lack of debt, among other economic factors. Johnston emphasizes, however, that the set of criteria he and Holloway used is just one among many. As long as they're profitable and have large volumes of vegetable oils, all the countries on our listeven if they aren't on our top ten listthey could do this, he says. The idea for the analysis first struck Johnston on a visit to a remote island of Fiji, where people rely primarily on petroleum diesel to run generators for electricity. Transported in by boat, the fuel cost the equivalent of $20 per gallon. Meanwhile, the islanders were growing coconuts and processing them into oil that sold for 50 cents a liter. The price disparity was just incredible, says Johnston, and it prompted me to think about where else in the world countries might have this biofuels potential, but not necessarily realize it. At the same time, many agencieschief among them the United Nations - have raised concerns about the biofuel industry's possible impact on the world's poor, as vegetable oils, now used for food, are increasingly diverted to fuel production. Rampant growth of biofuels could also negatively affect the environment; a soaring demand for palm oil, for example, has already led to deforestation in Southeast Asia. By highlighting the places in the world where biodiesel development will likely happen, Johnston and Holloway hope their analysis will help people foresee these problems and make plans to mitigate them. We're not saying, 'There's all this potential out there, go get it,' says Johnston. Instead, we're looking at which vegetable oil feed stocks are most likely to be affected and which countries will most likely be doing this at a large-scale. That way, we can anticipate some of the impacts, as opposed to having to react after the fact. Of all the vegetable oils and animal fats examined in the study, soybean and palm oil were by far the most common. In fact, the world's top five soybean and palm oil producersMalaysia, Indonesia, Argentina, the United States and Brazilaccounted for 80 percent of the potential global biodiesel production, the researchers found. Based on current export volumes of vegetable oil from 119 countries, Johnston also estimated that a grand total of 51 billion liters of biodiesel could be produced annuallyenough to meet roughly 4-5 percent of the world's existing demand for petroleum diesel. Yet, although interesting, these numbers aren't the main point. We're not suggesting that all exported vegetable oil should be converted into biodiesel, because that would fundamentally upset the food supply, says Holloway. We're looking at this more from each individual country's perspective: They're already exporting one thing, could
[Biofuel] First Jet aircraft flight powered by 100% biofuel.
www.greenflightinternational.com/pr.htm Contact: Doug Rodante Green Flight International (727) 415-7253 WORLDS FIRST JET FLIGHT POWERED ENTIRELY ON RENEWABLE BIODIESEL FUEL Green Flight International and Biodiesel Solutions partner to set a new precedent in the use of renewable fuels in transportation. RENO, NV. (October 5) Aviation history was made earlier this week in the high desert at the Reno-Stead Airport when an L-29 military aircraft piloted by Carol Sugars and Douglas Rodante succeeded in completing the worlds first jet flight powered solely by 100% biodiesel fuel. The Czechoslovakian-made aircraft is rated to fly on a variety of fuels including heating oil, making it the preferred platform for testing biodiesel in jet engines. The experimental test flights were conducted starting with a blend of jet fuel and biodiesel. The engine data was measured and the performance was evaluated and found acceptable for continued use, eventually resulting in the landmark flight using 100% renewable biodiesel fuel. According to Chief Pilot Carol Sugars who wrote and conducted the test program, As we gradually increased the amount of biodiesel in the fuel blend, the data confirmed that the aircraft continued to perform well, giving me the confidence to transition to 100% biodiesel. Flight tests were conducted up to an altitude of 17,000 feet showing no significant difference in performance compared to conventional jet fuel. This test program between Green Flight International and Biodiesel Solutions was a unique and exciting opportunity to show what can be done in renewable fuels. said Rudi Wiedemann, president of Biodiesel Solutions. The very idea of using 100% biodiesel to fly a jet aircraft makes a compelling statement about the possibilities for the future of renewable energy and a healthier planet. Out of concern for our global environment, Green Flight International was conceived by Douglas Rodante in April 2006 to serve as a platform for future development in the use of environmentally-friendly fuels in aviation and elsewhere. It is imperative that the global community take immediate steps to reduce our carbon footprint, because we can no longer afford to wait while our environment continues to degrade. said Rodante. By implementing even a small amount of bio-degradable fuel in our transportation system we can significantly reduce the CO2 (greenhouse gasses) and NOx (the precursor to smog) that contribute to global warming. In the near future Green Flight International expects to announce plans for another record-breaking aviation event. They invite aviation and biofuel enthusiasts to inquire about how they might be able to participate in this exciting venture. For more information contact Doug Rodante at (407) 880-2501 or [EMAIL PROTECTED] About Green Flight International Green Flight International ( www.greenflightinternational.com ) was founded in 2006 to promote wider adoption of environmentally-friendly fuels in commercial aviation through international television media and print outlets. About Biodiesel Solutions Biodiesel Solutions, Inc. ( www.biodieselsolutions.com ) based in Sparks, Nevada is the worlds leading manufacturer of community-scale biodiesel production equipment, empowering communities worldwide to produce their own clean biodiesel fuel from their own locally-grown materials. The company is a wholly-owned subsidiary of Renewal Fuels, Inc. (OTC-BB: RNWF) ( www.renewalfuels.com ), a publicly-traded company which focuses on non-food based technologies for producing renewable fuels and energy. -- [ Article found via www.ecogeek.org/ ] = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.12/1073 - Release Date: 16/10/2007 8:22 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Green group attacks oil giant on climate research
Here is that online video on Youtube: www.youtube.com/watch?v=0IxE4OaP9Ow Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 11:13 14/10/2007, Keith wrote: www.corpwatch.org/article.php?id=14715 Green group attacks oil giant on climate research by Alison Benjamin, Guardian Unlimited September 26th, 2007 An environmental group today took aim at ExxonMobil with the launch of an online video attacking the oil giant's green credentials. The Exxon Files, from Friends of the Earth Europe, sets out claims that the US-based corporation funds climate change deniers in Europe and the US. The animated video, which spoofs the X-Files TV series, features two fictional agents - Deny Fully and Rexx Tiller, of the Federal Bureau of Inconvenience - who are hired by ExxonMobil to hide the truth about the negative environmental impact of its business. . cut .. === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.10/1070 - Release Date: 14/10/2007 9:22 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 3/27 test on video
A nice little video about the 3/27 test : www.youtube.com/watch?v=R3jGvefA4OImode=relatedsearch The 3/27 test is just a metanol test to control the quality of your BioDiesel, on JtF you'll find also a methanol test explained. http://journeytoforever.org/biodiesel_vehicle.html#methtest Grts Bruno M. = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.4/1055 - Release Date: 7/10/2007 10:24 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Ahmadinejad blames certain big powers for the plight of a large share of humanity
Fred, please stop posting empty messages, post only in plain text ( ASCII ) to this ( and most other) list servers . Your postings with HTML make up and / or attachments will be automatically stopped by the server; any attachment to. So change your setting in your hotmail. if you need more info about how this list works etc you can send an empty messages with help or info in de subject line to [EMAIL PROTECTED] ( you can see al these and more options in the header of every message from this list). Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 18:23 5/10/2007, you wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20071005/c14086c2/attachment.html -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.14.0/1049 - Release Date: 4/10/2007 8:59 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 747 on biofuel
FYI: ~~ http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/science/nature/7017694.stm Biofuel trial flight set for 747 By Richard BlackEnvironment correspondent, BBC News website Air New Zealand says it plans to mount the first test flight of a commercial airliner partially powered by biofuel. The 747 flight, scheduled for 2008 or 2009, will not carry passengers The 747 flight is one part of a deal signed by the airline, engine producer Rolls-Royce and aircraft manufacturer Boeing to research greener flying. One of the four engines will run on a mixture of kerosene and a biofuel, and is set for late 2008 or early 2009. But Virgin Atlantic is planning to beat Air New Zealand to the punch by having its own biofuel flight early next year. Air New Zealand's chief executive Rob Fyfe said that advances in technology had made biofuels a viable possibility for use in aviation sooner than anticipated. The New Zealand government recently declared the objective of becoming carbon neutral, and climate change and energy minister David Parker said the national airline's initiative would help achieve that goal. I'm delighted that Air New Zealand has taken the lead by signing up for the first commercial trial of a biofuelled... aircraft, he said. The partnership gave no details of the type of biofuel to be used, but said that the test flight will not carry passengers. ... more, see link ... === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.39/1044 - Release Date: 2/10/2007 11:10 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Biofuels could increase global warming with laughing gas
Objective science or a paid for anti biofuel action? Grts Bruno M. ~~ www.physorg.com/news109581631.html Biofuels could increase global warming with laughing gas, says Nobel prize-winning chemist Growing and burning many biofuel crops may actually raise, rather than lower, greenhouse gas emissions. Thats the conclusion of a new study led by Nobel prize-winning chemist Paul Crutzen, best known for his work on the ozone layer. He and his colleagues have calculated that growing some of the most commonly used biofuel crops releases around twice the amount of the potent greenhouse gas nitrous oxide (N2O, also known as laughing gas) than previously thought wiping out any benefits from not using fossil fuels and, worse, probably contributing to global warming. The significance of it is that the supposed benefits of biofuels are even more disputable than had been thought hitherto, Keith Smith, a co-author on the paper and atmospheric scientist from the University of Edinburgh, told Chemistry World magazine. What we are saying is that [growing many biofuels] is probably of no benefit and in fact is actually making the climate issue worse. The work is currently subject to open review in the journal Atmospheric Chemistry and Physics, and Crutzen himself has declined to comment until that process is completed. But the paper suggests that microbes convert much more of the nitrogen in fertilizer to nitrous oxide than previously thought 3 to 5 per cent, which is twice the widely accepted figure of 2 per cent used by the International Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) to calculate the impact of fertilizers on climate change. For rapeseed biodiesel, which accounts for about 80 per cent of the biofuel production in Europe, the relative warming due to nitrous oxide emissions is estimated at 1 to 1.7 times larger than the relative cooling effect due to saved fossil CO2 emissions. For corn bioethanol, dominant in the US, the figure is 0.9 to 1.5. Only cane sugar bioethanol with a relative warming of 0.5 to 0.9 looks like a better alternative to conventional fuels. In the wake of the findings comes a recent report prepared by the OECD for a recent Round Table on Sustainable Development, which questioned the benefits of first generation biofuels and concluded that governments should scrap mandatory targets. Richard Doornbosch, the reports author, says both the report and Crutzens work highlights the importance of establishing correct full life-cycle assessments for biofuels. Without them, government policies can't distinguish between one biofuel and another risking making problems worse, he said. Read the full text of this Chemistry World exclusive at: The full research paper is available here: http://www.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/7/11191/2007/acpd-7-11191-2007.htmlwww.atmos-chem-phys-discuss.net/7/11191/2007/acpd-7-11191-2007.html Source: Royal Society of Chemistry === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.35/1039 - Release Date: 29/09/2007 21:46 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] The ultimate globalwarming challenge
If you can scientifically prove that there is harmful manmade global warming going on, you can grab the prize money, 125,000 $ The bet is on for 53 day's , up to now, nobody claimed the prize. See article or the linked site for more details. This challenge comes, if you like to know, from an other site: www.junkscience.com/ and the man behind the scene their is : Steven J. Milloy Steven J. Milloy is: the founder and publisher of http://www.junkscience.com/index.htmlJunkScience.com and http://www.csrwatch.com/CSRwatch.com ; an investment adviser to the http://www.freeenterpriseactionfund.com/Free Enterprise Action Fund ; and a columnist for http://www.foxnews.com/FoxNews.com . ... ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~~ http://ultimateglobalwarmingchallenge.com/ [] CHALLENGE $125,000 will be awarded to the first person to prove, in a scientific manner, that humans are causing harmful global warming. The winning entry will specifically reject both of the following two hypotheses: UGWC Hypothesis 1 Manmade emissions of greenhouse gases do not discernibly, significantly and predictably cause increases in global surface and tropospheric temperatures along with associated stratospheric cooling. UGWC Hypothesis 2 The benefits equal or exceed the costs of any increases in global temperature caused by manmade greenhouse gas emissions between the present time and the year 2100, when all global social, economic and environmental effects are considered. [] RULES By submitting an entry to the contest, entrants agree to the following terms and conditions: Entrants agreed to be bound by the UGWC Rules. Entrants acknowledge that the concepts and terms mentioned and referred to in the UGWC hypotheses are inherently and necessarily vague, and involve subjective judgment. JunkScience.com reserves the exclusive right to determine the meaning and application of such concepts and terms in order to facilitate the purpose of the contest. JunkScience.com, in its sole discretion, will determine the winner, if any, from UGWC entries. All determinations made by JunkScience.com are final. The winner, if any, will receive $125,000 in a single, lump sum payment. JunkScience.com does not promise or guarantee that the UGWC will have any winner. All entries must represent the original work of an entrant that has been produced specifically for the UGWC. All data used in an entry must be publicly available and readily accessible to the public. Entries will be accepted starting August 7, 2007. A fee of $15 is required for each entry submitted. There will be no refunds of entry fees. No entries will be accepted after December 1, 2008. The results of the UGWC will be announced on February 1, 2009. All entries must be submitted in MS Word or PDF format. Entries must include a summary or abstract of no more than 700 words for each hypothesis. Entrants consent to their entries being posted on the contest web site for public review and comment. Entrants waive all rights and claims against JunkScience.com related to, or arising from the UGWC. = -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: 27/09/2007 17:00 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] New biofuels RD website from Sun Grant .org
... Since april 2007 May be a usefull link for your bookmarks? http://bioweb.sungrant.org Grts Bruno M. FYI: The Sun Grant BioWeb is a non-commercial, educational website that provides current information about using biomass resources for bioenergy and bioproducts. This site is designed to help you understand: What biomass is, where it is, and how much is available. The ways it can be converted to biofuels, biopower, and bioproducts. The current state of biomass technology, research, production use Biomass economics and policy BioWeb's content authors, web, and database design teams are hard at work behind the scenes refining the system and content. Additional content will be added as it is available. ... BioWeb represents a joint effort of the five U.S. regional http://www.sungrant.org/Sun Grant Centers of Excellence (http://sungrant.tennessee.edu/University of Tennessee, http://ncsungrant.sdstate.org/South Dakota State University, http://sungrant.oregonstate.edu/Oregon State University, http://sungrant.okstate.edu/Oklahoma State University, and http://www.nesungrant.cornell.edu/Cornell University). BioWeb contributors represent a broad spectrum of expertise in the biomass arena, including universities, national laboratories, federal agencies, state governments, and private industry. BioWeb is not new research or unvetted ideas. Rather, it is a first-of-its-kind organization and packaging of existing work, reviewed by academic professionals for accuracy. This resource complements existing research and educational efforts. BioWeb fills a niche that can benefit all agencies, organizations, and individuals contributing to the advancement of a feasible and valuable biobased industry for America. === -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.5.488 / Virus Database: 269.13.33/1034 - Release Date: 27/09/2007 17:00 ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] UN vision on climate change
In september till december a few big climate negotiations ~ meetings are comming up, also one to make a treaty to replace the Kyoto Protocol. Here under the view of the head of the UN Framework Convention on Climate change. It looks like the thirth world gonna have to do the major changes. :-( Grts Bruno M. ~~ http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070823/ap_on_sc/netherlands_climate_changeprinter=1;_ylt=Akug4Y3ealioHriHK1FWWl9xieAA De Boer speaks on climate change treaty By ARTHUR MAX, Associated Press WriterThu Aug 23, 4:45 PM ET The treaty that replaces the Kyoto Protocol on climate change could be a potpourri of legal obligations, nonbinding commitments and aid arrangements for the developing world, but each nation should choose its own course, the U.N.'s top climate official said Thursday. At the outset of a season of climate negotiations, Yvo de Boer, head of the U.N. Framework Convention on Climate Change, said countries like the United States are mistaken if they dismiss the Kyoto process on the grounds it is forcing them into unwanted legal commitments. Countries themselves are in the best position to decide how they can achieve a target to which they commit, he told The Associated Press from his headquarters in Bonn, Germany. You should not seek to impose legally binding commitments on countries. At the same time, he said, it was up to the industrialized nations to take the lead in fighting global warming, and that binding commitments give a strong signal to energy investors on where to put their money. De Boer's comments appeared aimed at minimizing differences with the United States, which opted out of binding international agreements, but which is now trying to seize the initiative in shaping the next phase of world climate policy. The U.S. position has angered the European Union, which has adopted increasingly higher targets and imposed tough regulations on its member nations beyond their Kyoto commitments. President Bush has called a conference in Washington next month of the world's 15 biggest polluters, including India, China and several other countries that were not bound by the 1997 Kyoto Protocol, which expires in 2012. De Boer will head the U.N. delegation. That meeting will take place three days after a broader meeting on climate change summoned by U.N. Secretary-General Ban Ki-moon on Sept. 24 in New York. Both the Washington and New York talks are geared toward a major U.N. meeting in Bali, Indonesia, in December to discuss a successor agreement to Kyoto. The Kyoto agreement requires 35 industrial nations to cut their global-warming emissions 5 percent below 1990 levels by 2012. It also devised a carbon trading market and set up a system for nations to offset part of their obligations by sponsoring emission-reduction projects in developing countries. De Boer said 700 such projects such as financing hydroelectric or wind power projects are in the pipeline. Bush has criticized Kyoto partly because it excluded fast-developing countries that have become big polluters, and frequently singled out India and China. However, De Boer said both those countries have adopted voluntary commitments: India to produce 25 percent of its energy from renewable supplies by 2030, and China to increase its energy efficiency by 20 percent within five years. Those kinds of commitments could dovetail with legally binding commitments in any new agreement, along with any number of other ideas. Voluntary and binding targets are two approaches. Who knows? The process we launch in Bali might lead to three, four or five different approaches that accommodate different countries, different capabilities, to act on climate. It doesn't need to be one size fits all, he said. De Boer said an important element in the post-Kyoto climate regime will be how countries can gain credit by helping the developing world. It makes sense to get the biggest bang for your bucks, to identify the most cost-effective emissions reduction options around the world. The atmosphere doesn't care where you reduce emissions as long as you reduce emissions, he said. Having said that, there is a responsibility ... for industrialized countries to take the lead through domestic emissions reductions, he said. While legally binding targets cannot be imposed on unwilling nations, they are important for the credibility of the process. Also Thursday, the U.N. released a report that additional investments of around $210 billion a year will be needed to hold greenhouse gas emissions to the current level in 2030, and most of that investment should flow to the developing world. Those countries will need tens of billions of dollars more annually to help them adapt to unavoidable changes in their climate, it said. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel
Re: [Biofuel] Elsbett installation
Hi Benjamin, Elsbett is a German Firm, and you are about right about PS being something like HP. ( Germany is in Europe, so, uses only metric units, no old fashioned imperial stuff. ;-) PS is a German abbreviation. PS = Pferd Starke = Horse Power But ! ... 1 American HP = not exact 1 P.S. 1PS = 0.736 kW vice versa1 kW = 1.36 PS So ... 89,76PS = 66.06 kW 90 DIN Horsepower = 67.12 KiloWatt 1 DIN PS = 1 DIN HP =0.986 American HP or 1 American HP = 1.014 DIN HP and 1 American HP = 0.7457 kW Grts Bruno M. p.s. : there are many online-convertion sites ( no need to download software ), one of them, for power convertions is www.statman.info/conversions/power.html ;-) At 20:14 26/08/2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Greetings, I intend to purchase a conversion kit from Elsbett (48300490) and will most likely have a local diesel mechanic perform the installation. I've tried emailing Elsbett, but they haven't responded to my requests, and I am hoping someone out there could answer a question for me. I wanted to check what the 89,76PS stands for in the kit description. All the other numbers match up to what I have. (engine displacement, etc.) I know it is a 90hp engine, and am assuming this is a similar power measurement (?). 2003 VW Jetta 1.9 TDI = ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] 20 aug 07 : USDA global conference on Agri biofuels, RD and Economics / Minneapolis
yet another biofuel conference. ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~~ www.ars.usda.gov/meetings/Biofuel2007/index-2.htm USDA Global Conference on Agricultural Biofuels: Research and Economics Minneapolis, Minnesota August 20-22, 2007 By invitation only The USDA Agricultural Research Service (ARS) and the Foreign Agricultural Service (FAS) are cosponsoring, in cooperation with the University of Minnesota (UMN), a global biofuels conference on the science and technology of agriculturally-derived biofuels, to be held at the Crowne Plaza Downtown Minneapolis, Minnesota, on August 20-22, 2007. Objectives: To promote international scientific and technical cooperation in crafting common approaches and solutions to shared challenges in biofuels development. To address the current and future state of biofuels research and development, the economics of biofuels production, and the environmental implications of biofuels. Leading scientists and policymakers from over 40 countries are expected to attend the conference. Selected countries with established biofuels programs and/or innovative initiatives will make presentations. Participating countries are invited to submit summaries of their biofuels activities and priorities for a conference report. = ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Growing front-yard food can rile neighbors
At 12:29 1/08/2007, Doug wrote: www.cnn.com/2007/LIVING/wayoflife/07/24/veggie.patch.ap/index.html A dedicated group of vegetable gardeners is ripping out their front lawns and planting dinner. Their front-yard kitchen gardens, with everything from vegetables to herbs and salad greens, are a source of food, a topic of conversation with the neighbors and a political statement. ... And is the best way to have some healthy soot on your dish, spiced with seasonal road dirt. yammy yammy. grts Bruno M. == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] SVO congres sept 2007 + Trade fair nov 2007
First International Congress on Plant Oil Fuels 6 + 7 September 2007 Erfurt Germany. www.pflanzenoel-kongress.de/ ( in German ) The same in English : www.pflanzenoel-kongress.de/index.php?lng=en And in November also in Germany (Munich): Oils+fats 2007 International Trade Fair for the Production and Processing of Oils and Fats made from Renewable Resources 20 22 November 2007 oils+fats is the only international B2B exhibition that focuses on the manufacture and processing of oils and fats. It presents the latest trends and information about recent technological developments, covering everything from raw and auxiliary materials to processing, quality assurance, packaging and logistics. As a result, it is the most important industry gathering for experts and decision-makers in the oils and fats industry. www.oils-and-fats.com/en/Home/cn/Glance ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner
The answer from Bush on Global Warming. ;-) Grts Bruno M. ~ www.theonion.com/content/news/addressing_climate_crisis_bush Addressing Climate Crisis, Bush Calls For Development Of National Air Conditioner June 20, 2007 | Issue 4325 WASHINGTON, DCIn a nationally televised address reminiscent of President Kennedy's historic 1961 speech pledging to put a man on the moon, President Bush responded to the global warming crisis Monday by calling for the construction of a giant national air conditioner by the year 2015. www.theonion.com/content/files/images/Rising-Temperatures.article.jpg Concept art shows how the 800-mile-wide device would function on a high cool setting. Climate change is real and it demands a real solution, Bush said. Therefore, I am committed to dedicating all of the technology, all of the brainpower, and all of the resources we need in order to keep America cool and comfortable well into the 21st century. The National Air Conditioner Initiative is expected to be the largest public works project in the nation's history. Because technology capable of creating an air conditioner that can fulfill the cooling needs of a continental land mass does not presently exist, the president estimated that research and development alone will require at least $100 trillion in both federal and private sector funds. The challenge of building an air conditioner for all Americans will be the greatest we have ever faced, Bush said. But we must face it. We must act now to ensure that our children and our children's children can live in a world where they don't get sweaty and have to change their shirts all the time. While Bush's speech left many questions unanswered, such as whether the one-touch cooling settings would be under federal or state jurisdiction, reaction from congressional Democrats and Republicans has been largely favorable. I applaud the administration for finally taking this issue seriously, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi said. Such a giant apparatus means that Americans from all walks of life, not just the wealthy and privileged, will be able to get relief from the rise in the Earth's surface temperature. And it will create a great many jobs. Just removing and rinsing out the huge filter will require tens of thousands of seasonal laborers. Petrochemical industry leaders voiced early support of the plan, which would stimulate additional exploration and production of oil and gas to satisfy the machine's staggering energy needs. Some fiscal conservatives, however, decry the cost of the project and the gargantuan electric bills that would result, saying that a series of mile-high oscillating fans stationed in the Pacific Northwest and blowing in the direction of the jet stream would accomplish essentially the same thing and save billions. Conservative commentator Pat Buchanan expressed his concern that illegal aliens would benefit unfairly from the air conditioner, since many of them work outside, and questioned President Bush's ability to seal the nation's borders in order to keep the cool air in. Environmental groups like the Sierra Club have taken a tough stance on the president's plan, demanding it contain legally binding language that ensures the air conditioner will be switched to a special energy-conserving sleep setting when the country cools off at night. The White House has shown interest in an economy mode option that could be used in the event of a budgetary crisis, but it is still unknown whether such a massive unit would qualify for an Energy Star certification, let alone accommodate built-in money-saving features. The strongest opposition to the plan has come from Canada. Because the proposed National Air Conditioner would cover 90 percent of the state of North Dakota and face south, the U.S.'s northern neighbor would be directly in the path of superheated air expelled from the machine's back vents. Though Prime Minister Stephen Harper said this would create drought conditions and devastate their farmlands, most believe Canada lacks the clout to halt Bush's air-conditioning agenda. American air conditioner manufacturers, with whom President Bush reportedly consulted extensively prior to announcing the initiative, will soon be awarded tens of trillions of dollars to design and build the components necessary for the giant unit. Industry leader Lennox is expected to receive at least $30 trillion, including a massive installation fee, while the Carrier Corporation, Trane, and Amana are all jockeying for the next largest contracts. Global warming threatens us all, whether we're mowing our lawns, rafting down a river in a national park, or driving to the end of the driveway to get our mail, Bush said. The task that lies ahead is undeniably hard. But if we do not succeed, we will be profoundly inconvenienced. And I promise
[Biofuel] Algae oil company went Broke
In the News, 15 june 2007 A soap bubble collapsed. A biofuel company of south Africa De Beers Fuel who hyped them selfs as being the soon to be first big oil from algae firm, was exposed as been a scam by an investigative TV programme. De Beers Fuel marketed the concept under the Infiniti Biodiesel brand name. Shareholders were promised plants capable of producing tens of thousands of liters of biodiesel every day, Read the whole story : http://biopact.com/2007/06/south-african-algae-biofuels-company.html grts Bruno M. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fruit Trees *#
Hi Robert, you wrote: My compost runs about three weeks from start to finish That is not compost then. When you put up a pile, with brown = woody material, mixed with green stuff grassclipings and leafy material, and enough water, within 3 day's it will heat up, and be hot for 3 weeks, ( no worms or other visible critters, but mostly action from fungi and bacteria) but then, you do not have finished compost, it will be at best half-way. To produce compost on a pile, it takes much longer than 3 week to become a stable humus like material. And some Cherry tree info: Avoid heavy, poorly drained soils or an area in which water stands at any time during the year. www.homesteadharvest.com/article19.html www.treehelp.com/trees/cherry/care.asp Grts Bruno M. ~~ At 20:34 8/06/2007, robert luis rabello wrote: Keith Addison wrote: Hi Robert With compost enough probably means more. No such thing as too much compost (as long as it is real compost). My compost runs about three weeks from start to finish, and the bin IS doing better now that the weather is warmer and a bit less rainy. The problem with compost is that I can't make enough for the size of garden I have, so I'm continually importing material to bolster what I'm making. ... cut ... = ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Put some Coco in your Car
This news article is about Bougainville, an Island of Papua New Guinea, where all fuels has to be imported by ship. So fuel is expensive, that makes coconut oil as SVO or BD quicker economical feasible. Grts Bruno M. FYI: ~~ Coconut oil powers island's cars By Phil Mercer BBC News, Sydney People on the island of Bougainville in Papua New Guinea have found their own solution to high energy prices - the humble coconut. They are developing mini-refineries that produce a coconut oil that can replace diesel. From police officers to priests, the locals are powering up their vehicles and generators with coco-fuel. Inquiries for the coconut power have come in from overseas, including Iran and Europe. For years, the people of Bougainville have been dependent on expensive fuel imported onto the island. Shortages have often caused many businesses in this part of Papua New Guinea to grind to a halt. High energy costs have not helped either. Increasingly, locals are turning to a cheaper and far more sustainable alternative to diesel. Coconut oil is being produced at a growing number of backyard refineries. Matthias Horn, a German migrant and an engineer, operates one such refinery. They sometimes refer to me as the Mad German because how can you do that to your car... filling it with some coconut juice that you normally fry your fish in, he said. The coconut tree is a beautiful tree. Doesn't it sound good if you really run your car on something which falls off a tree and that's the good thing about it. You run your car and it smells nice and it's environmentally friendly and that's the main thing. Mr Horn said his work had attracted interest from Iran. Refineries like his also produce oils for cooking and cosmetics as well as soap. Coconut power is not new in Bougainville. The island endured years of civil unrest in which thousands of people were killed in a fight for independence in the 1990s. Dwindling supplies of diesel forced islanders to look for alternatives and the coconut was chosen. In peacetime, new technology is propelling this sweet-smelling industry to greater heights. Story from BBC NEWS: http://news.bbc.co.uk/go/pr/fr/-/2/hi/asia-pacific/6634221.stm Published: 2007/05/08 09:43:39 GMT © BBC MMVII === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Re: MPG-CAP PLEASE ADVICE NEEDED
1° Golan, don't yell here, no need to, or put your Caps Lock of. 2° why no link to that offer? how can we evaluate it ? 3° Don't bother to find a link ,( 36300 in Google;-) and it passed here before i guess. 4° it's an other MLM scam. From FFi, Fuel Freedom international, Florida. If it looks to good to be true, it mostly is. ;-) Bruno M. At 20:43 05/12/2006, Golan Shmuel wrote: HI U ALL I HAD JUST BEEN OFFER TO USE KIND OF WONDER MPG-CAP is a caplet you put into your fuel tank:This makes the fuel, petrol or diesel, burn more efficiently, increasing the power SAVES 15-20% FROM THE FUEL CONSUMPTION ,CUT DOWN POLLUTION ... ANY ONE HEARD OR TRIED I WISH THAT'S FOR REAL ALL THE BEST GOLAN == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] help needed
Helo Keith! Thanks for your ansver.In these parts oil is usually sunflover or rapeseed or maybe a bit of soyabean oil. Keith Addison pravi: I''m using foolprof process for about half of year with great succes.Recently I've got oil from diferent restaurant than usual and here comes the problem.After usual processing the oil was red as if it woud have full of glicerine in it.The glicerine did settled in usual amount (cca115 ml) and the wash test went throu normally.Nevertheless I've put in aditional methanol and lie and reprocess the oil.Eksept for some soap formation nothing happened.The BD stayed red.The restaurant owner told me,that he uses mashine for french fries that has the sistem for oil self cleaning. Any idea,anyone? Thanks for answer. Hi Bruno What kind of oil is it? The red colour could have more to do with the oil than with the processing. If the wash test and methanol test are okay then the biodiesel should be okay too. Best Keith ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] help needed
Bob Carr pravi: Hi Bruno, I also have managed to make red diesel using the foolproof method. The oil turned out to be GM soybean oil, very well used. it washed fine and the methanol test was fine. So I stuck it in the tank of my ford TransitFine So I would agree totally with Keith, if it washed ok and the methanol test was ok, then it most likely is good fuel.. Bob - Original Message - From: "bruno" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 10:56 PM Subject: [Biofuel] help needed I''m using foolprof process for about half of year with great succes.Recently I've got oil from diferent restaurant than usual and here comes the problem.After usual processing the oil was red as if it woud have full of glicerine in it.The glicerine did settled in usual amount (cca115 ml) and the wash test went throu normally.Nevertheless I've put in aditional methanol and lie and reprocess the oil.Eksept for some soap formation nothing happened.The BD stayed red.The restaurant owner told me,that he uses mashine for french fries that has the sistem for oil self cleaning. Any idea,anyone? Thanks for answer. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ Thanks for the ansver.It took all my scares away: ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] help needed
I''m using foolprof process for about half of year with great succes.Recently I've got oil from diferent restaurant than usual and here comes the problem.After usual processing the oil was red as if it woud have full of glicerine in it.The glicerine did settled in usual amount (cca115 ml) and the wash test went throu normally.Nevertheless I've put in aditional methanol and lie and reprocess the oil.Eksept for some soap formation nothing happened.The BD stayed red.The restaurant owner told me,that he uses mashine for french fries that has the sistem for oil self cleaning. Any idea,anyone? Thanks for answer. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] MaGnesol is... was Re: Manesol pretreatment and washing
Magnesol, with a G in it, and not Manesol like in the title ;-) is used in the US to clear ( resfresh) frying oil and makes it last longer. It's produced by the Dallas Group of America Inc. www.dallasgrp.com/ It's simply a synthetic Magnesium Silicate, sold as an absorbent filter aid. They say: MAGNESOL® XL keeps shortening clean and free from impurities, which reduces the build-up of off-flavor, off-odors and color in used shortening. Shortening retains its fresh quality, lasts longer and fried products are always light, crisp and golden delicious. pr And in this PDF: www.dallasgrp.com/biodiesel.pdf you'll find on page 2 their analysis from BD cleaned with Magnesol compared to water washing. So, original made for refreshing fryer oil, it's not new in de BD world, the dallasgroup itself has already found in BD a new market and, this UK commercial site www.ukfueltech.com/ about BD tells ...: ~~ www.ukfueltech.com/biodiesel-magnesol-dry-washing.htm Magnesol - dry wash biodiesel clean Water in biodiesel is not a good idea. Most people would agree this is a true statement. Yet most people continue to wash their biodiesel with water, and then go on to dry their biodiesel after washing. The end result of this biodiesel washing with Magnesol is that you will have used a lot of water and a lot of time. Saves time: purify biodiesel in minutes not hours with Magnesol Saves energy: no drying required with Magnesol Saves disposal costs: NO water waste with Magnesol Magnesol is a truly exciting development in the biodiesel world. With Magnesol you can wash your biodiesel without water and save money. Producing ultra-pure biodiesel every time. Achieving fuel standards much easier than with water washing. Saving time and money. It sounds to good to be true, but it isn't. Magnesol works. Magnesol is especially formulated for biodiesel. Magnesol is produced by the Dallas Group of America Inc., which is a recognized world leader in oleo-chemical purification technology. Dallas is the only U.S. company actively marketing a commercial product for the adsorptive purification of biodiesel. Magnesol is developed by a dedicated team of specialists. In our opinion nobody does it better (or even comes close). The companys synthetic magnesium silicate adsorbent, sold by UKFuelTech www.ukfueltech.com/ under the trademarked name Magnesol, is an adsorbent filter aid that ensures biodiesel quality by removing contaminants within methyl esters. Magnesol is though, not just any old magnesium silicate - it is the ONLY specially formulated product for biodiesel. It is the only magnesium silicate designed by experts. Accept no substitute. Magnesol has been subject to extensive testing, some highlights of which are: Free glycerin (tests prove an 85% reduction in 20 minutes) Water (tests prove a 60% reduction in 20 minutes) Methanol content reduced in test from 0.113% to 0.011% (90% reduction in 20 minutes) Soap (tests prove a reduction from 651mg/kg to 4mg/kg in 20 minutes) How good is Magnesol when used with one of our 1000 litre per hour Magnesol ... Looks like worth a try, but were to, with the waste product ? grts Bruno M. ( NFI ) At 15:57 24/05/2006, Joe wrote: I am interested in the pics. What is magnesol exactly? Also I just wanted to say FYI when you talk about crystal clarity it is anecdotal of course and DOES only give some info about particulate or emulsified contamination. A great way to detect very small levels of this type of contamination is to put a sample into a glass jar and in a darkened room shine a laser (pointer) through the BD. The beam should not be visible in the liquid. Note that this tells you nothing about trigliceride levels or methanol contamination but water content will give an indication above a certain level. Can magnesol be used to pretreat feedstock and be left in to settle out with the byproduct? Joe --- Chris Bennett wrote: Been having a play with a bag of Magnesol this week with impressive resuts. I made a sample batch of diesel, went over the top with the lye by about 2 grams per litre. I added the magnesol powder to the finished, seperated diesel and mixed for about 5 minuites. I removed the magnesol by filtering thru coffee filters several times (it was quite difficult to get it all out without a fine enough filter). The result is crystal clear biodiesel. I mean CRYSTAL clear, much better than I have EVER been able to get with water washing. Adding water to the diesel yields quick seperation, clarity is still 100% and the wash water is perfectly clear. 10grams per litre of magnesol has removed EVERY trace of soap and contaminants. Lets just say I will no longer be water washing. The next experiment
Re: [Biofuel] Conversion tyo diesel Pt 1
Hey there: Mi name is Bruno.I am just wondering;after Your extended answer on Jeep,could you tell me if you have any expirience on Renault.I just bought Renault Laguna 1.9DTI 1999.Are there any data on should or should I not use BD in this car.I am making my BD since last Oktober and it seems that I have quite good quality :I would be very greatfull for your or anyones ansver on the subject. lres1 pravi: Jonathan, You asked I am a newbe to this. However, will this work on a Jeep YJ??? To start, locate a 2.8 NA Toyota engine with its bellhousing and clutch plates (fan to clutch engine.) If you can not verify the distance the engine has covered or the hours it has run then replace the timing belt, timing belt tensionersand check the injector nozzles to see if they are flat faced or burnt (pitted). If pitted replace the injector nozzles. Take the gearbox and transfer box from the vehicle and place it on blocks so it sits in its correct position, as though it was still mounted in the vehicle (the angles need to be correct longitudinally and across the box.) At this stage the Bell housing should still be on the removed gearbox. There are two types of clutch operating systems fitted to the YJ.One is an internal unit- constructed thrust bearing and slave cylinder, the other is a separate clutch slave cylinder that fits through from the back of the bellhousing and presses onto a clutch fork. This later is very important to get the distances correct in the movement of the fork type. You will need to measure the exact distance from the front face of the gearbox to the center of travel position on the clutch fork along the thrust bearing slide shaft. Don't measure from the bellhousing as this will be discarded. Removethe bellhousing off the Toyota engine. Placethe front end of the bellhousingover a 3/4 inch plate of steel and with a marker pen mark all the holes and the inside and outside of the bellhousing onto the plate. Pay particular attention to the locatingdowels and the starter motor mount holes. Remove the bellhousing from the YJ gearbox. Place the back end of the bellhousing from the YJ onto a 3/4 inch plate and mark out the plate with a marker pen making sure to get locating dowels in their correct position. Take the clutch plate and locate one with a spline that fits the YJ spigot shaft and the same diameter friction area as the original from the Toyota engine. If you can't find one no worries strip the clutch plate and fit the Jeep center into a new Toyota plate and replace the rivets. With a pin punch mark out the inside and outside of the two plates. Also pin punch all the holes. Note; some of the holes in the copy of the engine plate will need to be Tapped/threaded and one for the clutch fork pivot in the gear box housing will need to be tapped/threaded. Once pilot holes are drilled in both plates remember which holes need to be what size and which need threads tapped into them. Cut out both plates with a cutting torch and with a small grinder clean all surfaces. Drill all the holes to the correct sizes and thread those holes needing threads. Remove the spigot bearing from the center of the crank shaft on the Toyota engine and machineup a bronze bush that is firm in the crankshaft and slightly loose on the end of the spigot shaft. Fit the bush to the Toyota crankshaft. (A bush is okay as the Nissans use a bush and so do many other vehicles. The needle rollers that come out are not so easy to locate, hence the bush option. Assemble the clutch and pressure plate onto the Toyota engine, making sure that the spigot shaft slides in with ease. Fit one plate to the rear of the engine and one to the front of the gearbox. Keep the gearbox as it was blocked up on wood chocks or some such so that it sits well off the ground but in the exact angles and position it would when in the YJ. Slide the engine back onto the spigot shaft making sure that the distance that you measured to the center of the clutch fork from the face of the gearbox is where the clutch pressure plate rests on the clutch thrust bearing. Check that all is aligned with all bolts in place and the rear engine plate you have made parallel to the front gearbox plate you have made. Also the engine back where the clutch forkwas measured to be in the center of its travel and the engine not leaning to either side. That is no lean on the engine. Make sure at this stage that the engine and gearbox are firmly chocked in this position. With 1inch by 1/8 inch flat bar cut lengths to go under the engine bolts on the plate you made for the engineand extend to the outer rim of the gearbox plate you made. That is the flat bar should not be bent but go straight from just under a bolt on the engine plate to the outer area of the gearbox plate. Put one bar at the top, cut another for the correct length to fit at 90 degrees from the top bar and then the same for
Re: [Biofuel] jelly and jellybiofuel question
a good question from Mike, ( and indeed drywall gypsum is Calcium Sulfate dihydrate ), but not a useful answer from Pani-Very-good-project -surely-this-can-work-too-Ruti, who seams to be not hindered by any knowledge. It I'll not work, it is not because something contains calcium that the properties will be the same. ( (char)coal and diamonds are both +- pure carbon, witch one your wife likes to wear around here neck? ;-) Eggshells is mainly Calcium Carbonate ( like marble ) and that will react dissolve in many acids, also slowly in weak acids like vinegar. ... resulting in a Calcium Acetate solution. Ca(COOH)2 is very soluble in water, up to 35% at room temp. ( so may dissolve to, in other polar solvents like ethanol ) Calcium-sulfate dihydrate ( gypsum) is almost insoluble in water. And even insoluble in many acids; weak acids will do nothing (vinegar, acetic acid ...) and even cold but strong acids like Sulfuric acid (battery acid) wont do it . You need at least boiling hydrochloric acid to start dissolving it. So I can't see how gypsum from dry wallboard can help making jelly fuel. grts Bruno M. chemist ~~ At 17:03 07/05/2006, Pan Ruti wrote: Very good project , surely this can work too, as gypsym is better on rather than lime But need experimentar work Thanking you sd Pannirselvam Michael Redler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My (future) brother-in-law and I were cleaning his garage and came a cross A LOT of warped dry wall. To my knowledge, dry wall is composed mostly of gypsum, a very soft mineral composed of calcium sulfate dihydrate, with the chemical formula CaSO4(2H2O) (thank you Wikipedia). We already discussed calcium acetate; (egg shells mixed with vinegar) to create a kind of jelly to which ethanol can be added. www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/msg53392.html Sohow about ground-up dry wall and vinegar? Mike -- ~°\^/°~~ -- ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] distilling fuel/reactant ethanol
Jan Warnqvist pravi: Hello Jason and Kate, the reason for this is simple. The castor oil (unlike most other vegetable oils) is ethanol soluble. This means that most other oils will not do the trick. With best regards Jan Warnqvist AGERATEC AB [EMAIL PROTECTED] + 46 554 201 89 +46 70 499 38 45 - Original Message - From: "Jason Katie" [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel@sustainablelists.org Sent: Sunday, April 23, 2006 6:31 AM Subject: [Biofuel] distilling fuel/reactant ethanol i pulled a paper from the library describing separating ethanol from water using castor oil. can this be done using any kind of oil, or are their certain characteristics of the oil not described in the paper? http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/eth_separate.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ I'm interested in separating ethanol from water using castor oil,so does anyone know what is the adsorption power of caster oil and under what conditions. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] pump position problem
hi Teoman, A pump who could suck 6 meter and a pump who is self priming, are not the same thing ( always). Some are self priming but don't suck from deep down. other pumps can suck-up from even 8 meters but can't start that them selfs ( out of a dry start position ). and then there are pumps who can do both or non of the above. ;-) But we can't answer your question if your not telling us witch pump you have, type, make, model? diameter and length from the pipes? Has it a non-retour valve at the suction side? What are you gonna pump, cold WVO, hot SVO, BD, Methanol? And did you buy only a pump or a complete processor as you described it? grts Bruno M. ~~ At 22:26 19/04/2006, teoman wrote: Hello. I have a problem with my new processor. I asked the person who was selling it if it was self priming and he responded yes, it could even suck water from 6meters. Ofcourse I didnt believe him, but I hotught that it probabbly could manage 40 cm. Well it cant. And #305; have already mounted above the fluid level. I have to use a vaccum pump to pull the wvo in to the pump :( Is there anotherh alternative? Can anytone help? THank you in advance Teoman Rudtard Kipling is rolling is his grave but William Easterly probably approves of pretty much everything you've said. . made a very big snip here ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Bill Gates into Bio-Ethanol production
Bill Gates (Yep the one from Micro$oft) with his investment company Cascade Investment, L.L.C., dives into bio fuels so to see. Who said Ethanol out of corn is no good? ;-) grts Bruno M. ~~ www.pacificethanol.net/_documents/PacificEthanolEquityandDebtFinancing_041706 Fresno, California, April 17, 2005, Pacific Ethanol, Inc. (Nasdaq: PEIX) announced today that it has completed the offering and sale of 5,250,000 shares of Series A Cumulative Redeemable Convertible Preferred Stock for $84 million to Cascade Investment, L.L.C. ... A portion of the proceeds from the preferred stock offering and all of the proceeds from the debt financing will be used to complete construction of Pacific Ethanol's ethanol production plant in Madera County, California. This plant is currently under construction and is scheduled to be completed and begin operations in the fourth quarter of 2006. The remaining portion of the proceeds from the preferred stock offering will be used to pay a portion of the costs of construction of other ethanol plants on the West Coast. Pacific Ethanol has announced plans to construct and operate five ethanol plants in the Western United States by the end of 2008 with an expected combined installed annual ethanol capacity of at least 200 million gallons. ... === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Oil AND Ethanol out of Corn
Is this the way to better economics in BD and ethanol production? From the same corn, they extract first the oil ( for BD production ) and afterwards make ethanol from the starch in it. But they don't tell what the rest product has for value left as cattle feed; after this double extraction. Comments? grts Bruno M. FYI: Corn Oil Extraction Yields New Benefits for Ethanol Producers Several ethanol producers have recently placed orders with Veridium Corporation for the use of a technology that extracts corn oil from distiller's dried grain, an ethanol by-product. The ethanol plants sell the extracted corn oil back to Veridium for additional revenue. Veridium, in turn, sells the corn oil to Mean Green Biofuels, Inc., which is currently selling the corn oil on the open market, but eventually plans to convert the corn oil into biodiesel. Veridium has received five orders for its Corn Oil Extraction Systems, which it installs at no cost in exchange for buying back the corn oil at below-market costs. The company has installed a system at an ethanol plant in North Dakota, and plans to install systems at ethanol plants in Illinois, Minnesota, and Wisconsin later this year. Veridium estimates that the five Corn Oil Extraction Systems now under order could produce as much as 9.7 million gallons of corn oil per year, which the company will sell for more than $1 per gallon. According to the company, the distiller's dried grain produced by today's ethanol industry contains roughly 300 million gallons of corn oil, 75 percent of which can be removed by the extraction process. Once extracted, the corn oil can be converted gallon for gallon into biodiesel. The company says the corn oil extraction process also increases ethanol plant efficiencies, since it reduces the energy required for drying the distiller's grain, which is sold as cattle feed. See the www.veridium.com/news.php Veridium press releases and the www.meangreenbiofuels.com/technologies.php?mode=1 description of the technology on the Mean Green BioFuels Web site. === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] HDPE Drums Washing
Yes Purbo, even on a professional level, but ... if you like specific tricks and tips, you need to tell us what was in it before. Washing a soap barrel asks for other means than an oil barrel. grts Bruno M. At 07:24 01/12/2005, Purbo wrote: Dear All, Has anybody ever tried to wash a 55-gallon (200 litre) HDPE drums? Please share your experience. Thanks PJW == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Using plastic pails
Hi Tom, I hope and believe that your point is not ( totally ) correct, because most fuel tanks from cars are made from plastics these days. So running on bio diesel would mean that your car starts dripping within a few months. :-(( ( but you are correct those esters can soften SOME plastics ) And trying to answer the original question: Jeff you may find plastics who withstand most of your products used in brewing bio-diesel, ( means chemically resistant ) BUT In the process of making it, there is also a heat input needed, how you gonna heat your plastic reactors Jeff? And do those plastic containers of yours, keep their form when hot WVO, SVO, or bio diesel is in it? You can collect ( cold ) WVO in HD-PE barrels, but for part of the circus you better rely on metal or stainless. grts Bruno M. ~~ At 18:32 22/08/2005, Tom wrote: Hi Jeffrey, Short term there may not be a problem. Long term (3-12 months) BioD because it is an ester will soften (dissolve) most plastics and make them unusable. Tom Irwin - From: Jeffrey Tan Subject: [Biofuel] Using plastic pails Dear all, A quick queston. Is it okay to use plastic pails I find around my house to built the reactor tank, and other tanks for the biodiesel process instead of stainless steel? It is some much cheaper and easier to work with plastics. Will there be unforseen problems with this? Thanks guys. Jeff == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] titanium
UV light ? To destruct ( or help oxidise) molecules, how is that helpfull? Bruno M. ~~ At 14:53 10/08/2005, Joe wrote: Very interesting. I have also been wondering about ways to add energy to make the reaction go. One thing I was considering was ultraviolet light. Anybody on the list have any knowledge or ideas about this? Joe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi There: The following US patent offers making biodiesel by adding 15% MeOH and running the mix at 85degC past very high DC electrode to get 100% conversion - no glycerine, it is converted to 1,2,3-proprionate. The only other byproduct is hydrogen. Very cool, just a little scary. http://appft1.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?Sect1=PTO2Sect2=HITOFFp=1u=%2Fnetahtml%2FPTO%2Fsearch-bool.htmlr=1f=Gl=50co1=ANDd=PG01s1=biodeiselOS=biodeiselRS=biodeisel http://tinyurl.com/8hjv7 Ray == ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Biodiesel turning acid
Marc, maybe you are measuring the color of the moon instead of the PH of your bio diesel. ;-) Ph is a measure for the H+ ( or H3O+) concentration in aqueous environment, thus in water, or at least in an polar solvent ( like ethanol/methanol), you can NOT measure PH with PH-paper test strips or even an electronic PH-meter in an non-aqueous or non-polar solvent. Oil, gasoil, gasoline, paint solvent etc and bio diesel or no polar (enough) solvents . So, dipping your PH paper or electrode into bio diesel or SVO/WVO will not give you an correct PH reading, not even close. What you can try, is ad 50/50 volume distilled water to your bio diesel, shake for a minute and let settle, measure your PH only in the aqueous layer ( without going with your paper or electrode trough the oily layer ! ) That reading may come close, and it's sure gonna tell you if your bio diesel is still basic or way to acidic or close to neutral. ( After 3 good washes it's not possible that the PH is still 2.5 ) Succes with it, greets Bruno M. At 10:12 26/07/2005, Marc wrote: Hello, I made a testbatch with clean sunfloweroil and first quality test was good. I washed the solution with water and let it settle for a week. i did this 3 times and then i filtered the biodiesel. Yhe biodiesel looked crystal clear. I tested the pH and it was 2.5! What happend here? How is it possible that a very basic solution washed with water is getting acid? Did anyone experienced this before? Greetings, Marc __ Biofuel mailing list = ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] methanol and airmodel engine fuel
Hi Rafal, Maybe this model-fuel is meant for 2takt engines, and thats whats the mixed-in oil is for? If it's only oil, you mite be able ( if you've got equipment) to distill the methanol out of it; but is this stuff water free? And I'm afraid that modelairplain-fuel is way to expensive compared to technical water-free methanol. No? Maybe search a little further for a supplier of chemicals? Or ask a producer of automotive fluids ( oils and carwindow antifreez / cleaner ) those winshield antifreez and cleaners (still) contains mostly methanol. [ in most countries of the EU this must now be IPA or Ethanol instead of Methanol, because Methanol is a poison; but some producers go for the cheapest and don't mind the regulations ;-) ]. grts Bruno M. who made also windshield antifreez/cleaner in a former live. ;-) At 12:34 21/07/2005, Rafal wrote: Hi, As I've found it nearly impossible buy small (1-2 litres) amounts of pure methanol here, in Poland, I've taken closer look at model fuels. They mostly contain methanol (40-85%), castor oil, EDL synthetic oil and additions. Now, castor oil might be even good. EDL definately not - luckily not all fuels do have it. Does anyone know what's in those additions ? I'm not talking about nitromethan here - that one I know about. This leads to a more specific question - how those fuels (after a bit of processing, naturally) can be useful as a source of methanol ? -- cheers, Rafal Szczesniak **mir[at]diament.ists.pwr.wroc.pl === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Hydrometer
Hal, I'm afraid you gonna need an other one. :-// Battery acid is a mix of water and Sulferic Acid; Water has a specific gravity of 1, 00 kg/L ( at 4°C) Pure Sulferic Acid is about 1.9 kg/L So, your battery hydrometer shall have readings somewere between 1.0 and 2 kg/L and your Biofuel will be below 1 kg/L thus that hydrometer is not usable for SVO, WVO, Biodiesel, methanol, ethanol. What you need is a hydrometer for the range of 0.780 - 0.950 Kg/L if you only want to measure diesel and biodiesel and SVO. ( Methanol is about 0;791 Kg/L , Ethanol 0.790 Kg/L) greets Bruno M. ~~ At 16:34 14/07/2005, Hal wrote: I've made a couple of batches of biodiesel and want to test its specific gravity. I've found a hydrometer that test a battery to see if it is holding a charge at TSC here in Bloomington, IL. Can I use this hydrometer to test the biodiesel or do I need one specificially for biodiesel? -hal ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/ ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Green diesel: New process
Some news, FYI: Public release date: 2-June-2005 Contact: James Dumesic [EMAIL PROTECTED] 608-262-1095 University of Wisconsin-Madison Green diesel: New process makes liquid transportation fuel from plants MADISON -- University of Wisconsin-Madison College of Engineering researchers have discovered a new way to make a diesel-like liquid fuel from carbohydrates commonly found in plants. Reporting in the June 3 issue of the Journal Science, Steenbock Professor James Dumesic and colleagues detail a four-phase catalytic reactor in which corn and other biomass-derived carbohydrates can be converted to sulfur-free liquid alkanes resulting in an ideal additive for diesel transportation fuel. Co-researchers include chemical and biological engineering graduate students George Huber, Juben Chheda and Chris Barrett. It's a very efficient process, says Huber. The fuel produced contains 90 percent of the energy found in the carbohydrate and hydrogen feed. If you look at a carbohydrate source such as corn, our new process has the potential to create twice the energy as is created in using corn to make ethanol. About 67 percent of the energy required to make ethanol is consumed in fermenting and distilling corn. As a result, ethanol production creates 1.1 units of energy for every unit of energy consumed. In the UW-Madison process, the desired alkanes spontaneously separate from water. No additional heating or distillation is required. The result is the creation of 2.2 units of energy for every unit of energy consumed in energy production. The fuel we're making stores a considerable amount of hydrogen, says Dumesic. Each molecule of hydrogen is used to convert each carbon atom in the carbohydrate reactant to an alkane. It's a very high yield. We don't lose a lot of carbon. The carbon acts as an effective energy carrier for transportation vehicles. It's not unlike the way our own bodies use carbohydrates to store energy. About 75 percent of the dry weight of herbaceous and woody biomass is comprised of carbohydrates. Because the UW-Madison process works with a range of carbohydrates, a wide range of plants, and more parts of the plant, can be consumed to make fuel. The current delivered cost of biomass is comparable or even cheaper than petroleum-based feedstock on an energy basis, Huber says. This is one step in figuring out how to efficiently use our biomass resources. ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] M/H PH and oil
Ron, What do you mean with MethalHydroxside ??? The second part must sure be Hydroxide i guess; So, maybe did you meant methoxide ? If you gonna experiment with dangerous and/or poisonous chemicals, it can do no harm to know a little basic chemistry; and inform yourself of riscs dangers, ... and the correct spelling of products, or else you could make exploding cook pots instead of biofuel, without you knowing what, why, how, went wrong. Golden tip: start reading and learning at e.g.: http://journeytoforever.org/ and http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html before you start messing with chemicals and kill yourself. my 2 (euro)cents ;-) Bruno M. ~~ At 16:46 03/06/2005, ron wrote: Anybody know the PH of MethalHydroxside? [SP? And is there a list of places to get [new] oil like the list of where to get Methanol? I am in S, Colorado and I am looking for 5000 gal a year for me and a million gal a year for a client I am trying to sell on bio juice. Ron === ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel_sustainablelists.org Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (50,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Dutch speaking biofuel group(?) was Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil
I to, live in belgium and could easier speak write dutch or flemish than english; but this here is somewhat an international list, with mostly english ( american ) ( speaking) people, who can not understand a word from what you were saying here. So, may I propose to make a seperate emailgroup for flemish/dutch speaking people from The netherlands(holland) and Belgium ( Flanders ) ; intrested in biodiesel WVO / SVO ? Maybe a Yahoo group? http://groups.yahoo.com/ If you go there a do a search for biodiesel there are already 83 groups about that ! Not one on the moment with dutch for conversation. only: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Bio-diesel/ A dutch list-owner but english spoken, very scientific but not very active group. So lets start one ??? Bruno M. At 15:07 10/04/2005, Hans wrote: Jan, Mooi om te horen dat er zelfs olie tot -15 lopend blijft. Kunnen we elkaar niet verder in het nederlands mailen, ik kom uit Belgie en heb enorm interesse om mijn stookolie te vervangen door afgewerkte olie. Mijn mailadres is [EMAIL PROTECTED] Groeten Hans - Original Message - From: Jan Lieuwe Bolding [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, April 10, 2005 1:25 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil At the moment I use used frying oil, but the main problem is that this already starts to solidify at about 15 ¡C. I have had a can of Sunflower Oil standing outside during the winter and It staid liquid even at temperatures at -15 ¡C. I also hope to produce a BD that I can also use during winter time. With kind regards, Jan Lieuwe Bolding The Netherlands - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, April 08, 2005 10:07 PM Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Sunflower Oil On Apr 8, 2005, at 10:47 AM, Jan Lieuwe Bolding wrote: Has anyone experience with Straight Sunflower Oil to produce BioDiesel? I bought my oilseed ram press from Tanzania largely for sunflower and safflower (tho it does a fine job on flax and yellow mustard as well). They all make fine biodiesel. Did you have some specific concerns? Really almost any seed oil will make excellent fuel. -K ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/ ___ ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
Re: [Biofuel] Re: Lutec
The date of to day is 31 mars 2005, I beliefe that you're 1 day to early, to tell us the Lutec crap story. 1 April ( April fools day ) is tomorrow. ;-) But ah... do you have financial interest in this so called Lutec company? Or are just naive ? And didn't you noticed that this list is about biofuel, not about bull shit, non existing, so called 'overunity devices' ? There is no such a thing as an over unity device ( yet;-), Is you get a certain amount of Kw's out of a black box, you must put them in there to ( first). There is not gonna come out more than there was input. Not even 1% certainly not 1500%. The only free energy on earth is solar energy ( besides a little cosmic radiation, and we leave fission out ). If you harvest this ( and convert this) in any form you can say you have captured free energy. But lets get real. If you have a battery bank in a off grid house, your a absolutely not gonna have permanent enough energy out of it for the next 50 years, even if you hang a so called lutec 1000 to it. It only can lower the capacity from that battery bank. Don 't try to fool [biofuel] readers, they are to smart to believe such a crap. Mr. Mindock I gonna bet 1000 dollars with you, that they ( Lutec ) are not gonna keep there promise, not even in 20 years, they are not gonna deliver a machine made of iron, copper wires, magnets that can get 1400% or 1500% energy out off an off grid battery bank if coupled with it; not even 140%. Are you in for a 1000$? I don't think so, unless... Now than, let's go back talking about real biofuel, and please keep this list spam free. TIA ;-)) Bruno M. ... not a moderator here, just a chemist, ...but not stuppid. ;-) Date: Thu, 31 Mar 2005 02:45:51 -0600 From: D. Mindock [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [Biofuel] The Lutec over unity device To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; This device (see attached pic) is due for release, starting in Australia where Lutec Pty Ltd is located, and then to all countries where licensing is completed. This device can furnish the all the electricity needed by the average home and runs on battery power. It produces 15 times more energy than it uses from the battery input. It's installed in the home where it's to be used. See their website at: www.lutec.com.au It appears to be the real deal. Let's hope it is. Peace and light, D. Mindock P.S. It is interesting that the Australian government would not provide any startup help whatsoever. Let's hope nothing stops the release of this new technology. It does seem that every time something like this comes along it is trashed by vested powers. It is not hard to imagine this technology powering cars and trucks, producing zero pollution and unlimited mileage. = ___ Biofuel mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://wwia.org/mailman/listinfo/biofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuel archives at Infoarchive.net (searchable): http://infoarchive.net/sgroup/biofuel/
[biofuel] Re: How to make calcium chloride?
At 10:01 13/06/2002 +, AGROFEKTA wrote: Message: 7 Date: Thu, 13 Jun 2002 09:56:44 - From: agroefekta [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How to make calcium chloride? I have read some time before that CaCl2 can be used to dry alcohols as well as esters. I am not good in chemistry, but believe that reaction of CaO and HCl can produce CaCl 2. Im my country there are many manufacturers of Cao, so I could make it quite easy. One more question. Can this salt be recovered after it has been used for dehidration? === Hi, Yes you can use solid calcium chloride to dry organic liquids. But why you like to hurt your self with a very dangerous and almost explosive reaction of CaO with HCL? This reaction would be so exothermic ( giving of heat) that you find it hard to keep the chems in a container ( if it's plastic it will even melt!) So please don't do this at home !!! ... never ever! BTW the HCL is actuel a gas dissolved in water, not good for eyes and lungs! There is even no reason to, because CaO might be cheap and HCL ( which is a industrial waste product or by-product) and also cheap; the Calciumcloride you want to make is also easily available, is also a industrial by-product cq waste product and also, or even cheaper than your HCL. It normal commercial use ( of CaCL 2 ) is melt salt for de-icing roads ( table salt go's to -9¡C, CaCL2 go's to -21¡C ). So here in Europe it cost less than 0.50 euro or ¤ per Kilo depending on the quantity you will buy. Normally sold in PE sacs of 5 and 50 Kg. Solvay is the best known firm of producing it ( world famous Belgian company ;-) but any brand will do. http://www.solvaycaso.com/safety_environment/0,5508,3324-_EN,00.html You can find it in refills for those dehumidifiers for cellars and so, like this one: http://be.bison.net/servlet/AdvisorServlet20?cmd=showid=283ident1=28ident2=0 You would have an other problem by producing it your self, You need CaCl2 ( anhydride ) the reaction you describes will give you Ca CL2.2H2O, that is, every CaCL2 molecule has 2 molecules of water to it. So you have to cook the crystal mass to get that water out. Now about recuperating used CaCL2, if the crystals ( or pellets) are nearly saturated with water, it is possible to put them in an oven on +- 110¡C for a wile until the bounded water is evaporated, but is it economically interesting? I don't know it out of my head, but that Cacl2 is not the best dryer for every organic fluid, what I mean is that it possibly dissolves a bit in some fluids and not in others, I'm afraid it might dissolve in your alcohols because alcohol and water are both 'polaire' solvents. So that have to be checked first ( if dissolved CaCL2 in the alcohol, might hinder its further use in your process.) Maybe I'll find an answer to that for you tomorrow. So Long Bruno Meersman ( Belgian chemist ) - Reply's to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Will You Find True Love? Will You Meet the One? Free Love Reading by phone! http://us.click.yahoo.com/Deo18C/zDLEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
