Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff
Keith, What I'm seconding is the notion there there should less political opinions and more political facts. I don't care how you run your site, but when people are arguing against opinions instead of facts, it's a waste of time. And while you asking about it, why should I not own an Isuzu truck (like Kevin, for instance) just because EnergyRecovery (does this person not have a name?) has the idea that I should help out my community and run out and buy a bus. ER knows nothing about me or my lifestyle but his personal opinion is that he's important enought to tell me how to run it. It's useless drivel. I didn't know that it was OK to discuss Isusu diesel mechanica specifics or Landrovers diesel conversions on this forum, as there are other forums for this, but if it is, that's great! So the question I have for the Isuzu Pup owner is if he's having any oil pressure problems with his diesel? I mentioned in the last post Landrover diesel conversions links. The most important two are listed at the top: http://www.pj4x4.co.uk/dk/parts1.html Diesel conversion kits for Landrovers http://www.eastcoastrover.com/Tdiconversions.html 300 TDI tubo diesl installations into Land Rovers http://www.advanceadapters.com/index425.html Advanced adapters http://www.horim.co.kr/d.html Hyundai deisel engines http://members.aol.com/EldonMcf/ IH Diesel engine page http://www.jescoweb.com/nissaneng.htm#DIRECTORY Nisan diesel engines http://www.kennedyeng.com/ engine adapters http://www.cruzers.com/~twakeman/LR/enginePwrSpecs.htm Land Rover Power specs http://www.dudleigh.com/ Landrover Conversions http://www.marks4wd.com/ transmission adapters http://www.steve-parker.co.uk/ Land Rover conversions - used to export to the USA not any more http://www.rocky-road.com/diesel.html Suzuki diesel conversion http://www.rodshop.com.au/ adapters - Original Message - You second what exactly, Jess? The Isuzu or the topic-copping (snipped)? If the second, I suggest you read the previous, and the links there. Also, just by the way, re this and your previous message on Land Rovers, why do you want to take discussions off-list? MM and I have both mentioned this here before, and agreed going off-list without any real reason to do so is an unfortunate tendency. It's a discussion list, discussion should be shared unless there's a good reason for going private. Not sharing it also means not archiving it, a permanent loss. (Please don't say it's off-topic!!) Thanks Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Prices Biodiesel vs. Dinodiesel
This is an excellent idea. Too bad you don't live closer. I'd do this in a second with you. What a minute, where do you live? Japan, or is that Keith? I forget... Regards, Jess --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Steve Spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 9:28 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Prices Biodiesel vs. Dinodiesel It's time for a co-op I think. I have friends in many restaurants now who would buy their vegetable oil from the co-op, and turn the used oil back over to the co-op. The co-op could sell the seedcake to the local farmers. snipe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mitsubishi,4x4,Turbo diesel,Pickupl on eBay
For Christ's sake, it's in bloody freezing North Dakota... just trying to get there would kill ya'... --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: harley3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Mitsubishi,4x4,Turbo diesel,Pickupl on eBay 1983,Mitsubishi,4x4,Turbo diesel,Pickup Plus in the ad he has Will also be listing soon volkswagon diesel pickup, 3 Toyota diesel pickups. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItemitem=2407339885 Am I off the hook for buying the Ranger Harley Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Land Rover diesel conversion
Hey Josh, I've got a bunch of links available to give you, but can't put them together tonight, I am exhausted. I almost bought a Landrover and did a lot of research last year. Contact me offline tomorrow. You can call me or email me. Regards, Jess --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Josh Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 6:47 PM Subject: [biofuel] Land Rover diesel conversion i am looking to swap the V-8 engine in a '97 landrover defender 90 for a used diesel. does anyone know of this being done, and with what type of engine (are there any out there that would fit the same engine mounts)? I am looking for a balance of efficiency and power, but would sacrifice some power for a gain in efficiency. any leads would be greately appreciated. josh Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff
Well, I second that...by the way Kevin, I have a 86' Isuzu Trooper turbo diesel. If you want to talk Isuzu diesels, contact me directly. Regards, Jess --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: zner1 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, March 14, 2003 8:29 PM Subject: [biofuel] War, Bush, and all the other Middle East stuff Hello All, I hope that I'm not going to offend anybody but I feel I have to say something. I really enjoy the group and love the source for info on alternative fuels and biodiesel. I have recently purchased a really nice 84 Isuzu P`up Diesel Pickup snipe Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty Dollars for Trying! http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Cheney is Still Paid by Pentagon Contractor
What's sad is that we, as Americans, don't require and/or insist on a standard of morality, ethics and character in our leaders. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 1:14 PM Subject: [biofuel] Cheney is Still Paid by Pentagon Contractor http://www.corpwatch.org/news/PND.jsp?articleid=5869 Cheney is Still Paid by Pentagon Contractorsnipe Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Uncle Sam's Other War: Biotech vs. the European Union
Excellent article...thanks, Jess PS See Keith, we are reading your stuff...) --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2003 10:59 AM Subject: [biofuel] Uncle Sam's Other War: Biotech vs. the European Union See also: Bushfood: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=20877list=BIOFUEL http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=15330 AlterNet: Uncle Sam's Other War: Biotech vs. the European Union By Carmelo Ruiz-Marrero, AlterNet March 9, 2003 The U.S. government is not very happy with the European Union these days. Washington is calling Europe's stand inmoral, but Europe refuses to budge. No, it's not the Iraq war. The issue is genetically modified (GM) foods. Since 1998 the European Union has required the labelling of all GM foods. This has amounted to a de facto moratorium on U.S. imports of GM foods because Uncle Sam stubbornly refuses to label them. Small wonder, since consumer polls on both sides of the Atlantic show that most shoppers want GM foods labeled, precisely so they can avoid them. U.S. Trade Representative Robert B. Zoellick, recently called the European position on GM foods Luddite and immoral. David Byrne, the European Union's health and consumer protection commissioner, called Zoellnick's remarks unhelpful, unfair and wrong. The U.S. agricultural biotech industry is deadset against labelling. labelling is a sham, said Mary Kay Thatcher, lobbyist for the American Farm Bureau. It would be so expensive, it would shut down our exports. Labelling implies that there is something wrong with genetically modified good, said Elsa Murano, the U.S. Agriculture Department's undersecretary for food safety. It would be another kind of trade barrier. Years of struggle Europe's opposition to eating GM foods did not just happen overnight. Rather, it was the product of years of activism and agitation on the part of activists from all walks of life. Thoughout the 1990's, citizens all over Europe took matters in their own hands, weeding or decontaminating experimental GM plots with garden tools. Many of these civil disobedience acts were done in broad daylight, in front of reporters and flabbergasted policemen. They did not fit the profile of the lone nut or the crazed leftist. They were teachers, artists, farmers, carpenters, middle class housewives. Then came the crop squats: groups weeded GM crops and occupied the plots for days and even weeks, turning them into demonstration organic farms and makeshift community centers. These Gandhi-like revolutionary actions were remarkably similar to those carried out by the European peace movement in the 1980's against the deployment of American MX missiles. One can say that whereas nuclear weapons were a symbol of state power in the cold war, biotech is a symbol of corporate power in the post-cold war. Activism worked. People made a difference. Europe today has no Yankee MX missiles or Yankee GM frankenfoods. Now Old Europe has a de facto moratorium on GM foods, and it won't budge. Uncle Sam is furious. WTO? Be my guest! Washington has repeatedly threatened to bring a case against the European Union to the World Trade Organization (WTO). Unfriendly to social, environmental and public health considerations, the WTO has a dispute resolution mechanism whose workings have been repeatedly denounced by civil society groups as untransparent and undemocratic. When a member country brings a case against another for erecting an unfair trade barrier in the WTO, the accused country is guilty until proven innocent. The accused country has to prove its innocence, the accuser has to prove nothing. The cases are heard behind closed doors by panels of unelected trade bureaucrats. But not to worry, the European Union will win its case if it can prove that its rejection of GM foods is based on sound science. Whatever that means, the Europeans sigh sardonically. In the late 1990's, sound science meant that Europe had to import American beef tainted with growth hormones, even though its scientific authorities had determined that such hormones were an unacceptable health risk. The WTO had simply declared that the European ban on hormone-tainted beef was an unjustified trade barrier. So much for sound science. GM foes in Europe and all over the world breathed a collective sigh of relief last month when the U.S. laid down its challenge. As reported in the Organic Consumers Association web site, Washington decided not to take the matter to the WTO. However, few observers on either side of the issue believe the U.S. has really called it quits. Could this be a quid pro quo? In hopes of winning Europe over to Bush's war on Iraq, perhaps
Re: [biofuel] Mercedes vs. Volkswagon
It's a good motor. I have the 86 Isuzu Trooper turbo diesel running on veg oil. Bulletproof and as heavy as the Titanic anchor. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 17, 2003 10:58 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Mercedes vs. Volkswagon hello again izusu I mark was a good car too with a diesel motor Kenny Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq
We are not taking over any oil fields. Ernie is absolutely correct, and as soon as peace and stability is established in the region, we will be getting out. If we even tried for a second to exert some sort of US military installed government in that area, every nation on earth would be screaming bloody murder. It's just not going to happen. Know what you can do to help? Get yourself off any dependence of dino-oil by getting a diesel engine vehicle and running bio-diesel or SVO in it and convert you home heating system to something other than dino-oil. When we do this in mass numbers Big Oil will fall. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Ernie Wedgewood [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq If the US plans are to take over the oil in Iraq why didn't they keep it the last time. They all ready had control of the oil fields when they extinguished the fires in the last attack. I am not sure that this is just about oil. But I must admit that the oil fields of Iraq would be a great prise for any King. Ernie Wedgewood = Ernie Wedgewood, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq
What a minute... wasn't that from Dune; he who control the water controls the Universe? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Myles Twete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq My understanding is that going for Iraq's Oil is only the small potatos--or at least the near-term ones. What Bush/Cheney/Bechtel are really after is Iraq's dams and water damming potential---which will last long past when the oil dries up He who controls water, controls more than oil. -Myles Twete -Original Message- From: Ernie Wedgewood [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 11, 2003 11:03 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] The oil in Iraq If the US plans are to take over the oil in Iraq why didn't they keep it the last time. They all ready had control of the oil fields when they extinguished the fires in the last attack. I am not sure that this is just about oil. But I must admit that the oil fields of Iraq would be a great prise for any King. Ernie Wedgewood = Ernie Wedgewood, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] __ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Shopping - Send Flowers for Valentine's Day http://shopping.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] electrical heating question
Josh Madison has a great little free program: http://www.joshmadison.com/software/convert/ where you can get all the conversions you need. Watt conversion is under the energy tab. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Mark Sylaart [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 08, 2003 11:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] electrical heating question Yes, 1 watt of electricity produces approximately 3.4 btu of heat - Original Message - From: girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, February 09, 2003 12:27 AM Subject: [biofuel] electrical heating question While we're on the subject of electricity, I got a question about heating elements: in an electric water heater element, is there an easy way to predict the BTU output produced, based on the rated wattage? Mark Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Water cutting
There is a sculptor in upper Connecticut who uses a water cutter to cut the steel pieces to form his designs. I've visited him and these are pretty cool. http://www.deniscurtisssculptor.com/ --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Robby Davenport [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2003 6:29 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Water cutting it is also used to cut bread , and no it does not make it soggy. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel]palm source
If you can't find the info online, there is a wonderful by Josh Tickel called From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank which has charts with this data. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Crabb, David [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 04, 2003 12:48 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel]palm source Does anyone know what species produces the most oil? how about maturity times? thanks Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Change of Pace
Regarding the air car, I don't even know why we are talking about a car that doesn't even exist and in my opinion will not exist in our future. Might as well be using the bandwidth to talk about a vehicle that runs on MGP. (Magnetic Gravity Pulse). Very, very far into the future. Bio-diesel and SVO are here NOW and vehicles by the hundreds are being converted all over the planet as we speak everyday because it fits into our cultural interplay with government bureaucracy. Veg-oil plays a vital part in the reduction of fossil fuel usage NOW, and people with no mechanical background are forging ahead and retrofitting their vehicles without research centers, government grants and patent-locked technology owned by a few whose interest is primarily capitalism. The reason why Bush didn't mention bio-diesel technology in his State of the Union address is because automakers and big oil haven't found a way to monopolize it enough yet to make it a political issue. Auto manufacturers get HUGH subsidies from the government to develop hydrogen cell technology. It's a cash cow and they are no going to change that anytime soon. Germany has an excellent government consciousness about bio-diesel, yet go across over to England, and you are back in the stone age. The English police are actually arresting people and charging fines for innovative and creative alternatives to fossil fuel. That alone tells you how far the English government is up Big Oil's a$$. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Damian J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 11:26 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH How practical is that if I want to drive from Washington DC to Miami? It takes 4 hours to refuel. I can see that it might make sense for commuting in a city, but then you would need another car anyway to take the wife and 4 kids anywhere. Damian Anderson On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Tricia Liu wrote: Damian: Air car runs by expanding the compressed air, releasing cool air(nice for the passengers) http://www.theaircar.com/howitworks.html Check above for how it works! Need electricity or solar power to compress the air and use as fuel for the aircar. But wave your hands in the air, all over there is your renewable energy. Compress and expand, compress and expand It's all still air, there are everywhere! BioDiesel still needs to produce from another forms, either cooking oil or veggie oil. But the company is not doing big scale of production, so could not even experiment on the air car. Just like Crysler Damler bought GEM, maybe a big car company can buy the patent or the engine. They can build their own cars by using this new engine, air compressors are easy. Have one at home, but gas stations can also sell these compressed air at pump! But the storage equipment will be expensive for compressed air or the future Hydrogen fuel. (Following comments are from a friend in related talk. These web sites may be helpful to you!) Hydrogen for cars is still very distant, no matter what anyone says. The problem is we need a Hydrogen fuel delivery infrastructure, and it should be produced at the site of each station with wind or solar (or geothermal). It is also stored under very high pressure or in liquid form at very low temperatures...and though they have made advancements for the fuel container, it is still under inspection over the long term. The other issue is that pure oxygen that is produced can be VERY volatile. Pure oxygen is the more dangerous than hydrogen, and resulted in the only astronaut deaths in the Apollo program. They stopped using pure oxygen after Apollo 1 fire that killed the astronauts. The car companies want us to believe they are moving in the direction of hydrogen cars, but my view is that it is a way to continue to make the large gasoline and diesel machines for a longer time. You will see that in the next 20 years very few hydrogen cars will be made... In the meantime, battery advancement is very rapid and encouraging. Fully electric bicycles will easily reach 100 miles within the next 2 years, and hybrid electric vehicles have no limits to range. I believe the best sollution is a combination of NiZn primary battery, and Zn air secondary battery. With zinc air, we can have zinc cartridge replacement stations like we now have gas stations. Drive up and the attendant will slide the spent cartidge out and replace with re-charged cartridge. http://www.metallicpower.com/refuel.htm http://www.electric-fuel.com/techno/battery.html A good size wind generator could easily power the replacement station charging, and excess power could be used to make hydrogen
Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH
Isn't he talking about $1.30 A LITER? Greg, you are talking about a gallon. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 12:24 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH A $1.30/gal for dino-diesel? I wish it was that cheap here. Here in Colorado Springs, Colorado, we are at a $1.45+ and the local grease traps say there in some kind of ordinance that says they can't give the used grease/oil away to people, cause it's a health hazard. Greg H. - Original Message - From: Nick Taylor (SMTechnology.com) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, January 28, 2003 02:31 Subject: [biofuel] Taxed To DEATH Hi Guys, Just thought I would let you know what the British government is doing to support Biodieselabsolutely nothing!! Currently here, we are paying silly amounts for our fuel, on average $1.30 (USD) for a litre of dino-diesel and $1.27 for unleaded. Therefore making your own fuel is an attractive ideabut there is one problem...as its cheaper to make, the government does not get its slice of the tax (to pay for their gas guzzling auto's!)..therefore they don't encourage anyone to mass produce. As an example, my company has applied for a licence to make its own biodiesel for our 4 VW Caddy vans. Not a problem we were told by Customs and Exciseas long as you pay the government $0.76 in tax per litre used alone!. Once you add that to the cost of small scale production, its going to cost us more than to use dino-diesel.we are forced to use dino-diesel, and they still get their money. I'm embarrassed that the UK is so far behind everyone else in Europe...after spending 4 months in Sweden last year, I realised that the UK is a dinosaur itself, stuck in the industrial revolution of 100 years ago (we are still struggling with broadband internet outside of the big cities!!!). ..But don't worry folks...I'm going to be running my van on biodiesel once I've got the hang of making it!! Stuff the government! If anyone is interested, here's what's in the news in the UK: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/england/1750734.stm One last thing...is there anyone in this group from the South West of England that can recommend a good methanol supplier??? Nick [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Can you use vegetable oil to power an oil furnace?
Damian, Yes you can! I have a Yahoo forum that addresses this question. Look in the photos section in Eric Klatt's folder to see his progress so far. I've been working on it and have successfully burned a mix of SVO and HHO (home heating oil) while Eric has successfully had a 100% burn with his. Check out all the past messages for the history and information. You will have join Yahoo and the altfuelfurnace group which is up to about 60 members. Goto: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/altfuelfurnace/ Jess --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Damian J. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, January 24, 2003 1:50 PM Subject: [biofuel] Can you use vegetable oil to power an oil furnace? Hello, Does anyone here know whether you can use vegetable cooking oil to power a home oil-burning furnace? Thanks Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Engine conversion
girl mark, I have been doing my own research into why the GM diesel failure happened and the only information I have found was that the head bolts stretched and that this was the primary failure for the GM line because the bolts were not torqued at correct intervals and/or the head bolts stretched and were usually not replaced on a rebuilt. Do you have a source on the info about problems with the block crankshaft,etc. ? I'd like to find out more about it. Thanks, Jess --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: annoying way to get water out of BD was Re: [biofuel] Interesting way to get the water out of BD
I'm still confused- can you clear this up just one more time, please- I promise I'll write it down- is girl mark a guy or girl? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, December 13, 2002 7:32 PM Subject: annoying way to get water out of BD was Re: [biofuel] Interesting way to get the water out of BD It just started raining cats and dogs up here, and my biodiesel setup is outdoors (only slightly covered by blue tarps). We don't get winter here, we get 'the rains'. I'm standing in the kitchen watching the lake that's forming out there (and a lake full of cats and dogs is LOUD). The lake is creeping across the parking lot and getting closer and closer to our house, and I think the pallets (ok, so I'm on some kind of biofuel topic here) that I put down next to the biodiesel tanks as a walkway are about to go a-floating. The Lake is deep enough that there's almost no pallet showing. In the midst of this I have a tank of biodiesel that just finished washing. Arggh. It' ain't gonna dry anytime soon, not in 200% humidity. I'm not about to try and bubbledry it with humid air. I guess I'll be heating this batch to dry it. Results later. Mark Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Linux install fests?
Good question. So where are the groups, Doug? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Kim Garth Travis [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, December 11, 2002 9:00 AM Subject: [biofuel] Linux install fests? And how does one find such groups? Bright Blessings, Kim Doug Foskey wrote: The best way to start with Linux is to take a computer to a Linux Installfest, which is where the local Linux group has a big install day to attract members. Most groups run these periodically. regards Doug Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Linux install fests?
If you want something done, try it yourself...I got these off Google. http://www.lugod.org/if/In California http://www.linuxgazette.com/issue34/staff.html Canada http://www.blu.org/cgi-bin/calendar/2002-ifest13 Boston http://www.tux.org/fest/Washington. DC http://installfest.marko.net/ Auburn, ?? http://www.csclub.uwaterloo.ca/events/MC3002_(Math_Coffee_and_Donut_Store)-2 002-11-02-11:00AM-3:00PM.html ?? http://vancouver-webpages.com/vanlug/installfest98.html Vancouver --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] RE: home heating with biofuels
Myles, As far as the nozzle drip goes, Hago makes an Eco-nozzle that solves the after-drip problem somehow. Info is in their pdf they have on their site. Read about it couple of weeks ago. What's your nozzle specs in the Reillo? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Myles Twete [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Friday, December 06, 2002 3:27 PM Subject: [biofuel] RE: home heating with biofuels Dear Aaron- We've been heating our home in Portland, Oregon now with 30-100% biodiesel for the past year now. snip Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Here it is
Myles, I found the PDF. http://www.riellocanada.com/pdf/newsletter_200109.pdf --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] electrical pump
If you go to the web site they have a store locator. --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: James Slayden [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 27, 2002 12:06 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] electrical pump on this note, Mark mentioned that granger is down this way (south bay), but I can't seem to find a listing in the phone book. Anyone know directly their number down here so I can get over there? Thank, James Slayden Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] electrical pump
I see a lot of those things on ebay. Are you talking about 12V or 120V? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: John Venema [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 11:32 AM Subject: [biofuel] electrical pump I need a heavy duty electrical pump for sucking up badly contaminated WVO. My old one just collapsed. Any suggestions? John Venema Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] electrical pump
girl mark, I looked at the pump at Grainger. They also sell the head (pump) separate from the motor, so if one already had a motor... What is the RPMs on the you have? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: girl mark [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 26, 2002 9:58 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] electrical pump I have a Teel fryer filter pump from Grainger, and I think it's Grainger model number 7P098 snip Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- áFREE Health Insurance Quotes-eHealthInsurance.com http://us.click.yahoo.com/1.voSB/RnFFAA/46VHAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WVO for heat, preliminary results
Stephen, How is that home heating oil/WVO project coming along. Haven't heard from you in quite some time. You still filtering SVO? --- Jesse Parris | studio53 | 53 maitland rd | stamford, ct 06906 203.324.4371www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: sbosco9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 9:36 PM Subject: [biofuel] WVO for heat, preliminary results Hello from the newbie on the list I have been having some success with burning WVO in a traditional oil burner. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Mid sized Diesel pickups?
creeble, Someone just mentioned the Isuzu pup/Chevy Luv pickup which I completely forgot about. I have owned one of these in the mid-1980's and they are bullet-proof. I picked it up with 80k on it from a neighbor's father who was an electrical contractor for $900 with a cap. The cap I turned around and sold for $300. I ran that $600 truck for five years until the frame and body just disintegrated around the motor/drivetrain, then sold it for $1200 with a $100 parts truck to a couple of guys who carried them to South America where they were restored. That's my great deal vehicle story. You can find these Isuzu diesel trucks, it just takes a lot of concerted effort and a lots of patience and you may have to travel across country to get it or have it shipped site unseen. I searched for over a year to locate my Isuzu Trooper turbo diesel and lucked out. I stumbled across it in the first three hours of a seven day auction period on Ebay. I did a Buy Now and paid $1500, but it did have new tires, new radiator, new alternator and several other misc new parts. Oh, the best part was that it was only an hour's drive from me to Brooklyn, NY: not a cross-country jaunt to Washington state. I did the twin tank conversion and have been running WVO in it. The guy up the street from me has a friend who just got a new Chevy Duramax pickup which cost him over $40k. It's not the new body cat-eyes front-end style, but the older 2000 body style, and for all intent and purpose, it's the same body style as the used $12-$15k gas pickups that you see running around. It's a pickup truck for God's sake! I refuse to accept the choices that are being given out by Detroit and Texas. I'm going this weekend to look at another Isuzu turbo/diesel. Lot's of rust so I'll just drop the motor and transmission into a primo gas body. The 1st generation gas Isuzu Trooper motors were notorious for blowing the head gaskets, so the bodies are all over the place. By the way, an Isuzu Trooper turbo/diesel just sold on Ebay several days ago for, I think, around $2500-2700. Good luck on the hunt and if you are looking for a Mercedes there is a group that talks a lot about these cars at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and for Isuzu there is the www.itog.com group. Jess Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: creeble [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, November 12, 2002 1:34 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Mid sized Diesel pickups? Slim pickin's is right -- I've been searching for a low-priced ($3000) diesel pickup of any size or condition in the general SF Bay area, and I'm coming up pretty short. I'd like to experience using biodiesel (available at exactly ONE pump in the Bay area) with a low-risk investment that I can experiment with. Tough going! I'm wondering if anyone has any experience with B100 in mid '80s vintage Chevy (6.2L) diesels. These seem to be among the more available engines in trucks currently around, though I'd vastly prefer a smaller truck/engine. Failing that, how 'bout mid-80's vintage Mercedes (e.g., 300SDL)? Eric. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups?
Well, The pickin's are slim. I have an 86 Isuzu Trooper Turbo Diesel and it took quite a while to find it. Ebay, $1500, and it needed a fair amount of work. I do have the twin tank system installed and it works wonderfully. The US made choices; Dodge and Ford seem to have a lot of mechanical problems with the injector pump so you are going to have a lot of homework in front of you. Jess Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Martha Olson [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, November 11, 2002 8:44 AM Subject: [biofuel] Mid sized Diesel pickups? Well, my little ole Mazda pickup came to an untimely end last week (unfortunately with me in it) and I'm contemplating buying a diesel truck so I'd have the option of going with biofuel. I'd be looking for a 10 yr old ( + or - ) truck. What models are readily available in the US? What kind of MPG should I expect? Comments on reliability would be appreciated. Is there a point in the last 10 years when diesel engines got noticeably cleaner? I think I'd favor the dual tank system and expect I'd be burning petrol diesel at least part of the time. Thanks in advance for any help. Martha Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] '86 Nissan Pickup
Did someone slip a new term by me? What's PVO? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: elijah smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, November 06, 2002 5:23 PM Subject: [biofuel] '86 Nissan Pickup Anyone else out there have success / failure running biodiesel or PVO in an old '86 Nissan pickup (one-ton chassis, SD25 engine)? I'm specifically wondering about thing like the injectors pump - do they lend well to waste/straight veggie oil? Anyone know about the rubber parts I need to look out for in this engine? Any feedback or references are greatly appreciated! Elijah Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Spain studies dropping renewable fuel subsidies
Another good reason to move to the US. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Manolo Rolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, October 29, 2002 2:30 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Spain studies dropping renewable fuel subsidies it's sad but it's true. and goverment is changing the law to give the big companies the power over biofuels market. Manolo Rolan Valencia Spain Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Looking for a more powerful website? Try GeoCities for $8.95 per month. Register your domain name (http://your-name.com). More storage! No ads! http://geocities.yahoo.com/ps/info http://us.click.yahoo.com/auyVXB/KJoEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Kerosene heater on Veg oil?
Your best bet is to take an old wick, or spare and try this: 1. soak the wick with a small mixture enough to saturate - 90% kerosene 10% veg oil ... see how that burns. 2. same thing - 80% to 20 % - see how that burns. 3. then 70%, 30% , you get the idea- keep going until it won't burn without going out. I think it depends on the viscosity of the oil that you have. No one will be able to accurately tell you because their oil may be different. You have to experiment a little. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Kerosene heater on Veg oil? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok ok. its prob. been covered, but will a kerosene heater run on veg oil or a veg oil diesel blend? TTT can anyone enlighten me? I will be running a diesel camper in the future with about 40 gals of veg oil ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Kerosene heater on Veg oil?
Disclaimer: Don't set yourself or anything else on fire. Don't do this if you are not mechanically inclined. Don't do this in your house or camper. BE CAREFUL. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 10:15 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: Kerosene heater on Veg oil? Your best bet is to take an old wick, or spare and try this: 1. soak the wick with a small mixture enough to saturate - 90% kerosene 10% veg oil ... see how that burns. 2. same thing - 80% to 20 % - see how that burns. 3. then 70%, 30% , you get the idea- keep going until it won't burn without going out. I think it depends on the viscosity of the oil that you have. No one will be able to accurately tell you because their oil may be different. You have to experiment a little. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, October 19, 2002 9:35 PM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Kerosene heater on Veg oil? --- In [EMAIL PROTECTED], coachgeo3 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ok ok. its prob. been covered, but will a kerosene heater run on veg oil or a veg oil diesel blend? TTT can anyone enlighten me? I will be running a diesel camper in the future with about 40 gals of veg oil ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/jd3IAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] home heating
You can't set a home heating oil furnace to burn more oil. You could change the nozzle size,i.e., a .8 to a 1.5, which means instead of burning 8/10th of a gallon, it burns 1.5 gallons, but nozzle sizes are set by the manufacturer of the furnace based on the size of the chamber. It is very unlikely a maintenance technician would alter this because it would be a liability. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ - Original Message - From: Lisa [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, October 09, 2002 12:49 AM Subject: [biofuel] home heating Replying to a couple of different digests here... Message: 5 Date: Mon, 07 Oct 2002 23:23:12 - From: dikajane [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: oil furnace greetings - i'm interested in using biodiesel in my oil furnace this winter - is there any modification i need to make to the furnace? i won't be burning homebrewed biodiesel, as i'm not really set up for that, but there is a company in my area (believe it or not) who sells the stuff at their gasstation for diesel engines, and who delivers! so this is commercial grade diesel, which as i understand it is interchangeable with #2 heating oil... any advise you could give would be much appreciated thx dj This topic sorta came up before, but I never really did get a grasp on what the options are with oil furnaces. Can they be adjusted to run on WVO, or does it *have to be* pure BD? Our furnace is getting its annual checkup on Friday, so if anyone knows of any adjustments that will allow it to run on WVO... speak now or forever hold your peace? (or at least til next year... lol) [Although it is the OIL COMPANY that is performing the service, so they may not be too keen to cut off their own business ;^)... I'm STILL trying to convince my husband that they set it so it burns more oil.] Message: 21 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2002 03:33:56 -0700 (PDT) From: Keith Young [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: The yummy corn fails animal tests Where could you purchase this corn? I burn corn as a heat source and could kill two birds with one stone, lower costs for me and help to get rid of this junk. I live in Va. In this area, we have a bumper crop (so to speak) of drought-ravaged corn that apparently isn't even good for animal feed. Could this waste corn be burned in a common fireplace or woodstove? TIA Lisa Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] fuel line
Since we already have so many people experimenting with biodiesel/SVO/WVO, does anyone know a good source for a roll of 3/8 fuel line? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SVO Question?
I didn't see a switch at that link. Just a double neck filler tube. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Andre Shoumatoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] SVO Question? Well, that is the switch I'll be using. It is designed to fit into the model Land Cruiser, and I think would be fine for a SVO/WVO conversion, though it is not originally designed to do so. Andre Shoumatoff, Park City UT http://www.cisautoweb.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SVO Question?
Aaah...I got it! I was thinking electric fuel tank selection switch. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Andre Shoumatoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 7:11 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] SVO Question? If you look at the picture, there is a metal rod attached to the unit that goes to the box where the fuel is diverted. That is the switch -- pull it out and it fills one tank, push it in and if fills the other. Pretty neat, I think. Andre __ College Internet Solutions - World class web sites at great prices (435) 645-3914http://www.collegeinternetsolutions.com - Original Message - From: studio53 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 5:06 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] SVO Question? I didn't see a switch at that link. Just a double neck filler tube. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Andre Shoumatoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2002 6:11 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] SVO Question? Well, that is the switch I'll be using. It is designed to fit into the model Land Cruiser, and I think would be fine for a SVO/WVO conversion, though it is not originally designed to do so. Andre Shoumatoff, Park City UT http://www.cisautoweb.com Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Digest Number 1113
I though a Russian stove was a bottle of Vodka. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2002 5:42 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Digest Number 1113 Do not forget to tell me what a Finnish stove is. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home for Top $ http://us.click.yahoo.com/RrPZMC/jTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] SVO Question?
Which dual fuel switch from Australia? I plan on using this device: http://www.greasecar.com/products.cfm?productID=3 for removing the vegetable oil from the drum, and will being installing a dual fuel switch from a company in Australia to divert the appropriate fuel to each tank. Jesse Parris Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Sell a Home with Ease! http://us.click.yahoo.com/SrPZMC/kTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] When a Crop Becomes King
Excellent article. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Alan S. Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 12:22 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] When a Crop Becomes King [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://premium.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storyu=/nytp/20020719/071200.bail= http%3a%2f%2fpremium.news.yahoo.com%2frd%3fr%3dsolar Did anyone catch this July 19 NY Times article before it went to pay-for-access? Was it any good? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ram Press has arrived!
Fantastic Ken. So you spent about $600 on getting it here? Can you post some pictures of it? I did a Google search on it but found nothing. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 12:14 AM Subject: [biofuel] Ram Press has arrived! Just a little update on my new Hela Mk II Vegetable Oil Ram Press... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Ram Press has arrived!
It's manual labor...I get the reference to the muscular women now. Maybe I need to stop looking for my Weider Super Pec and Deltoid machine on Ebay and get with the program. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2002 1:47 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Ram Press has arrived! Hi Jesse See Oilseed presses http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Keith Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Home Selling? Try Us! http://us.click.yahoo.com/QrPZMC/iTmEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Was peanut oil now soybeans
Japan imports a lot of their rice for the same reason. For one thing, they can't make enough because they just don't have the wetland acreage to plant rice and also the demand is so great that it's actually shipped in. Also large conglomerates, Skippy, own a lot of the land that they get the peanuts off of so that they can control the supply and demand of their own products. Speaking of which, I heard that Archer Daniels Midland, Monsanto and a couple of others are quietly buying up soybean crops all around the globe for future production of bio-diesel. They have seen the writing on the wall. This country HAS to change over to bio-diesel and synthetics soon. I know other alternative power like the fuel cell is being developed, but my opinion is that a grass roots effort is the answer right now. Jumping Yemeni, I'm starting to sound like a politician! But that still doesn't take away the fact that we have to wean ourselves off dino. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Grahams [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 04, 2002 9:10 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: peanut oil At 07:34 PM 9/3/2002 -0700, you wrote: To get off my high horse a bit, why would peanuts (or any other crop, for that matter) EVER become more expensive to grow than what they are worth? Does this happen because of the high costs of water, pesticides, herbicides, plow blades, combines, fuel? If so, maybe it's just that a particular crop is being grown in the wrong location, or in the wrong way, or in too-large fields, or perhaps an overly-sensitive cultivar is being raised.. what is it? I really want to know.-K I wondered about this myself. I live in VA and wanted to get some- (like 100-500lbs) of peanuts to have on hand to make my own peanut butter, I thought it would (should) be less expensive than buying name brand stuff at the store. Instead I have found it to be SO MUCH MORE- like two to three times the price. It is amazing that it is cheaper to buy peanuts already processed into peanut butter -(shipped in from what country?) than to buy the plain peanuts grown right here in VA. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: WVO for heat, preliminary results
Steven, That's interesting that the nozzle GPH is lower and you are atomizing better. Guess it makes sense, but I would keep a close eye on the fuel pump. I went through one at the peak of winter last season, then picked up a rebuilt unit that turned out to be bad also and tried to make that work until I realized the problem. After putting on a new, NEW pump, My furnace got back to normal. I think that the pre-heating idea is a good one and key, if you are starting up cold with the WVO/HO mix. I'm going to try that myself. Speaking of filters, I think there is a good source for the 5 micron filters somewhere relatively cheap, I saw it somewhere on one of the forums, I forget which, but as long as you're filtering and also using the standard oil filter setup on a HO furnace, then I don't think you can go wrong. Don't know if you know it, but the is ALSO a filter in the nozzle, a fine mesh screen, and well as one in the fuel pump, well mine at least. That's four filters before it gets to the end of the nozzle. If something gets through after that, then it's an act of God. Jess Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: sbosco9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 27, 2002 12:01 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: WVO for heat, preliminary results Jesse, 1) I am using a .85 GPH nozzle, so I guess the BTUH would be around 115,000. I tried a 1.0 GPH also but the puffs of smoke in the initial stage were exceeding what the chimney draft was able to suck up by an uncomfortable amount- the boiler was shuddering, and smoke was coming from the joints! 2) The WVO came from a chinese restaurant- they weren't too helpful in telling me what kind of oil it was, but it is liquid at 20C so I am pretty sure it is not palm oil. 3) I filtered the WVO through an old bedsheet. I also fashioned my oil line so it does not draw from the very bottom of the oil can in case there is any water or other junk still in the mix. I tried heating the oil line with a heat gun this morning before I fired up the unit and it started a lot cleaner. This suggests to me that the cold oil, while it appears to be atomizing properly, really is not. Your idea about using the blower control to determine the fuel is a good one- my unit is a boiler so it does not have one of those, however I think it should not be too difficult to mount one directly above the flame chamber. There is also a startup circuit in the primary control which allows the burner to fire for a minute or so without the safety limits being satisfied. It might be useful to tap into this if one wanted to use a small heating element for the first minute of firing. Stephen Bosco Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/MVfIAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] WVO for heat, preliminary results
Stephen, I've been working on this idea for some time. I acquired a spare Becket burner that I will continue experimenting with. I have a 115,000 BTU oil-fired burner ( no water jacket involved) for the household heat. The motor (not on the burner) for moving the forced hot air around the house is 1725rpm. The nozzle is 1.25 gal /hr. Regarding your project, The timer you need to delay the wvo/ho mixture is already built into your system at the variable-heat differential switch which starts the forced hot air fan. Mine is set at about two minutes, but can be lengthened. I still need to set up an electric zone-valve for the switch-over which also will require a separate tank. I think an old converted 75 gallon water tank just might do the trick, but of course this would not pass city code inspection. Better off with a standard oil tank, but depending on the situation of where it's located, it might need Seems like a separate pump would also be needed. What would be ideal is if the other side of the shaft on the main electric blower/ fuel pump motor of the primary burner could turn an auxillary second pump for that extra tank. Then the only connection between the two two would be that switchable valve. Another aspect I've been looking at is the amount of heat that gets lost going up the chimney, but that's another project. My questions for are: What is the BTU output of your furnace? What nozzle size is are you using? You might be able to increase your wvo/ho ration with a larger nozzle? What is the source of your WVO and are you prefiltering before adding to the #2 heating oil? I took a look at the Babington burner which is basically an open uncontrolled flame and decided it's not the way I want to go. I feel to much can go wrong with it. With the forced hot air oil burner, everything is basically already there. I'm eager to know how your project is going. Let me know. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: sbosco9 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2002 10:36 PM Subject: [biofuel] WVO for heat, preliminary results Hello from the newbie on the list I have been having some success with burning WVO in a traditional oil burner. I at first attempted running it through mixed with an equal amount of #2 heating oil (aka diesel fuel)- although the mixture seemed to atomize normally, the mist only partially ignited. Second attempt, I mixed one part WVO with two parts #2 oil, this ignited almost completely. I have now logged about one hour of burning this mixture, starting from a cold state several times. The combustion makes an oscillating sound for a couple of minutes on startup, along with some puffs of blowback through the cracks in the boiler door, but it cleans up after the burner has been on for 2-3 minutes. The improvement could be due to the heat which has built up in the firebox walls- at that point the flame is clean white with very little smoke. After reading some of the things which have been written on this subject, I was expecting the WVO to block my nozzle orifice, but, (knock on oil can) this hasn't happened yet. I'd like to eliminate the initial dodginess in the flame, and I'd also like to increase my ratio of WVO to #2 oil- one way I might be able to accomplish this is to start the burner with pure #2 oil then switch over to WVO/#2 mix after the firebox is good and hot (following the model employed in WVO burning cars). Preheating the oil also occurred to me, but it seems like any preheating I could do safely would be pretty modest compared with the firebox heat. Another idea is to build a babington style burner, which I have begun to assemble the parts for. I suspect that this type of burner will suffer from the same problem though- incomplete combustion of the oil mist at lower temperatures. The only babington style burner which I have seen in action was affixed to a 4 diameter steel tube about 20 long, again, possibly to build up heat quickly and radiate it back onto the flame. Comments welcome. Stephen Bosco Arlington, Mass., USA Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send
Re: [biofuel] diesel vans?
Keith, I wanted to stop in at the counter and talk to the guy about the truck, but I was running late on a haircut appointment and didn't. I wish I had, though, because I can't remember if it was the smaller Astro looking van or the big boy. But I do remember that it was not the usual stripped-down utility-looking white Chevy truck that were all all so familiar seeing here in the States with no interior in the back and a bunch of metal shelves. This one looked nice, no logos, two tone, gold on the top and a little dark brown on the bottom, lots of chrome trim. Nice interior. It' probably falls into the SE catagory if there is one. Only reason I noticed it was the loud noise coming out of it. High, 1100rpm at least, idle. I love that sound so it caught my ear at once. The US diesels don't purr like the VW's do. By the way, I finally got an Isuzu Turbo-diesel Trooper II for myself and have just starting mapping out the changeover to WVO. Looks straight forward and simply really. I'm going to do the double tank with the electric valve changeover and electric heater for the WVO. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:29 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] diesel vans? Ford makes the e350 diesel, maybe even in the e250. I believe Chrysler also, but not sure. And now I have some work to do updating that list of diesels in the US, especially with vans. Thanks for the new info, one and all. I'll do it by tomorrow probably, and I think it'll need a few holes filled. What's Chevy's new diesel van, Jesse, any more details? Regards Keith Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter Discussion Boards: http://www.green-trust.org Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: studio53 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 4:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] diesel vans? Chevrolet has a new diesel van. I saw and heard one sitting in front of a plumbing supply house idling. LOUD! Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: T. Gray Shaw [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 9:30 AM Subject: [biofuel] diesel vans? Hi, Does anyone know of a diesel van in current US production? The only diesel vans I found (Nissan Presage, Renault Espace, Peugeot Combispace) were not available stateside. One web site (http://www.allpar.com/mopar/Diesel.html ) talks about a 2.5 liter TDI engine for Chrysler minivans, but also says, As of January 2000 we do not know whether these engines will survive the Daimler takeover. Ford's Galaxy minivan was apparently sold by Volkswagen in Europe with a 1.9 diesel. The diesel Eurovan is apparently available in Canada - not helpful when you take into account obtaining parts. I don't think I'm interested in a used Vanagon, since they're all twenty years old. - Gray Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] BIG diesel vans?
Jan, Diesel steps-vans are on ebay all the time. Do a search in ebay with diesel. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Jan Steinman [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 20, 2002 6:41 PM Subject: [biofuel] BIG diesel vans? From: Brett [EMAIL PROTECTED] You can buy a Sprinter if you want a brand new German engineered diesel cargo van... go to http://www.daimlerchrysler-vans.com Those look positively yummy, although they are expensive. EPA rates them at 22 mpg! However, the Sprinter is too small for me. (I'm not the original poster.) I'm looking for the absolutely best highway fuel economy I can get ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/mG3HAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Looking for new transportation (was SUV's on biofuel)
Is there anyone on this list that is in Canada, specifically Montreal? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Jean-Leon Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, August 18, 2002 3:42 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Looking for new transportation (was SUV's on biofuel) Well the time has come that I need to start looking at buying another automobile, my little car, now cost more to fix in a year, than it is worth (not to mention it runs a little dirty anymore). I am thinking that one of these Canadian Land Cruisers may be just the thing. Does anyone have anyother recomendations? Diesel Cruzers... If you are in the US, and want a canadian Landcruiser, get one with the 3B diesel engine (BJ-XX), 4 cylinder, preferably from the prairies, where rust is much less of a problem. The 3B engine was built by Hino, and you can get parts from Hino dealers. It was used for reefer units on large trucks, I believe. Walking into your Toyota dealer will be of no use, they usually cannot get parts (engine specific parts - most everything else is available). BJ60's make for good vehicles, but don't buy one if you are looking to replace a small car. They are a 4wd, a heavy 4wd. Not an SUV by any means, they are the real thing. Solid axles, body on chassis, 6 bolt wheels, etc etc etc. If you are looking for a small car, a landcruiser would be overkill. On the other hand, they are easily repaired by the home mechanic and are fairly efficient if equipped with freewheeling hubs and narrow tires. I would actually recommend this over many larger diesel cars (MB 300, for example) as the fairly simple design will make for a much more home repair friendly vehicle. This, plus the above reproach reliability. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Looking for new transportation (was SUV's onbiofuel)
You left out a couple: Audi 5000 diesel BMW sedan/stationwagon 1984? turbo-diesel Nissan Camry Nissan Sentra Nissan pickup (4x4 turbo diesel) General Motors Oldsmobile car diesel (4.3L V6,5.7L V8) Cadillac car Chevrolet car (3.5L) Chevrolet trucks(6.2L-6.5L, Duramax diesel) Chevrolet LUV (Isuzu pickup) Chevrolet Chevette (1.8L Isuzu diesel engine) Chrysler Jeep (diesels brought in through Canada) Ford (Powerstroke diesel) Lincoln Continential (BMW motor Turboed) Ford Topaz (Mazda diesel) Dodge trucks(Cummings diesel) International Scout (Nissan diesel motor) Isuzu Imark car 1.8L Isuzu PUP pickup truck 2.2L non-turbo and Turbo Isuzu Trooper 2.2L non-turbo and Turbo Mazda Pickup truck 1984 B2200 Mitsubishi Mighty Max Pickup truck Toyota Pickup Toyota Landcruiser Toyota Camry Land Rover pre- 1974 Vw Passat VW Golf VW Jetta VW Rabbit VW Pickup VW Bug VW Vanagon Mercedes Benz 190 240 300 350 Unimog Truck Volvo car (VW 5 cylinder diesel non Turbo and Turbo) Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- 4 DVDs Free +sp Join Now http://us.click.yahoo.com/pt6YBB/NXiEAA/RN.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send Unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] new e-mail address please update my membership
Jon, You have to go in and change it yourself. Log into Yahoo Groups using your password and navigate to the biofuel group and change your personal info. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 2:09 PM Subject: [biofuel] new e-mail address please update my membership New address is [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] will still work for the next 30 days or so but all new communication will go out under the new address. Thanks Jon Norris Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Free $5 Love Reading Risk Free! http://us.click.yahoo.com/3PCXaC/PfREAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information
Yeah! Let's see some pictures of that thing Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 11:56 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information How exactly does it work? Does it just have grinding/pressing wheels that squeeze the hell out of the seed/whatever? --- Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Komet line has one that'll give you the exercise you seek. Hand operated. Does about 10 lbs. Of seed per hour. Cost is about $1700 US delivered to you. (quality never comes cheap). You can press oil out of darn near anything with it - some of them are pretty high value oils (nutraceutical/pharmaceutical). You could run that 1 litre car from VW for a week, for a little bit of a workout on the press. = -Martin Klingensmith http://archive.nnytech.net/ http://devzero.ath.cx/ http://www.nnytech.net/ __ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! - Official partner of 2002 FIFA World Cup http://fifaworldcup.yahoo.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information
You are not going to find one for $200, me thinks...that's highly machine (low tolerence) pieces of good quality metal that you're getting. I think maybe just under a $1000 would be interesting. Electric of course, no hand job. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: kirk [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 2:54 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Equipment Information Doesn't oil in the seed store much better? Wouldn't people want a kitchen expeller to avoid the rancid oil that I hear is a health issue? Less than $200 would probably find buyers. Quality juicers are in that price range. Kirk Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks
That is such a scam. The politicians tried that in Hartford, CT. It got shot down and the NE Patriots tried to sue. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:56 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Re: EPA Ruling Backfires, Spurs Sales of Diesel Trucks On Sun, Jun 09, 2002 at 10:09:16PM -, motie_d wrote: Perhaps Sports Stadiums should be forced to raise ticket prices by $10 each for a couple of seasons to raise funds to build a new Stadium, Unfortunately, what seems to be happening more and more is the taxpayer is forced to pay for the new stadium (so the rich owners and rich players can get even richer) even if they detest the sports. It's fun to drive by the stadium and pray curses on the team tho. -- Harmon Seaver Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Energy from Snow / Ice fall
I don't think so. My days of going out anywhere on Geocities is over. Last time I went there I got blasted by three ads before I could even move the mouse. Then An ad came up of some actress that covered half the screen. I'm done with them. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 12:26 AM Subject: [biofuel] Energy from Snow / Ice fall Visit: http://www.geocities.com/newideasfromtelewise/energy_from_snow__ice_fall - Sify Mail - now with Anti-virus protection powered by Trend Micro, USA. Know more at http://mail.sify.com Take the shortest route to success! Click here to know how http://education.sify.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer
Terry, None of the links work with the pictures on your website. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Terry Wilhelm [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, June 08, 2002 1:33 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Diesel Motorcycles ? the answer Royal Enfield has been producing diesel motorcycles for several years. They are produced by a British company and sold in India. Big market there. There is one distributor in the US that I have spoken with about this bike. I have priced the bikes several times when I was in India and then check the prices in the US and they are almost three times the cost. In the US they come with a key and turn signals. I believe that the bike was a 500 cc. The diesel model was all black. No chrome but has a real neat sound. Terry D. Wilhelm The Revenoor Co. INC www.revenoor.com Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information
I don't know what Carlos is talking about. He's seeing something that I'm not. I goto this URL and all that's there are three green industrial grinders. Not only are there no small presses, there are no prices, so what is he talking about when he states not expensive? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information hello Keith: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html Carlos Hello Carlos Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information
Thanks Keith. My point exactly. Does anyone know where to buy a small oilpress THAT HAS THE PRICES on the same page? I went out to that swedish oilpress site, you know the one with the tractor and Volvo and what a mess that was. Farmers and HTML do not mix. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 3:48 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Hi Ken Komet, Taby, Dong Kwang all do something like that, dunno about the prices though. Details here - Oilseed presses http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_supply.html#Oilpress Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information
YEAH! Ken's got the right idea. Does anyone within earshot of this email know about any American makers of oil presses? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 2:49 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Equipment Information Carlos writes: you can see a small and not expensive oil press at www.savoiapower.com/tiny.html All I can see on that site is an expeller press that weighs 500 kg and processes 125 kg of seed per hour. My guess at the price is in the range of $15,000 USD. (I didn't see a price on the website). Maybe I'm not on the right page -- this is hardly tiny. How about one that weighs 20 kg, processes 5 kg of seed per hour, and costs $300 USD? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] ignition retarding
http://www.nrel.gov/docs/fy01osti/30882.pdf If you look at page 2, there are no autoignition temp numbers for biodiesel. Bad news for those who are trying to develop a home heating oil system. I wonder if you could start a furnace on regular diesel and then switch over to bio like in a car? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: MH [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, June 06, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] ignition retarding Harmon Seaver wrote: I think you don't understand what octance (cetane) ratings are all about. If anything, with a higher octane (or cetane, as the case may be) you would benefit from *advancing* the timing, not retarding it. At any rate, where did you get this idea of changing the timing for biodiesel anyway? There's absolutely no basis for it that I'm aware of, in any of the documentation. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Pick?
I've seen these also advertised as Open Any Auto with these set of Locks It a sham! It's just a set of little flat picks that you try and jimmy the lock open with. Like you see in the movies when James Bond opens a door with a woman's hairpin. NOT. A friend of mine ordered these through UPS and paid about $30. He was steamed when he opened the box. We told the UPS guy about it and the local office stop delivering them to people! Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Biofuel-JTF biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, June 02, 2002 11:21 AM Subject: [biofuel] Pick? Why is this group sponsored by a lock-picking device? [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Kwick Pick opens locked car doors, front doors, drawers, briefcases, padlocks, and more. On sale now! http://us.click.yahoo.com/ehaLqB/Fg5DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] glycerine use
What does prime with sugar mean? Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 10:04 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine use Here's a little food for thought for all those micro-biologists in the biodiesel world. The glycerin fraction (true glycerin) recovered from the glycerin layer of a transesterification process which has been submitted to catalyst neutralization and FFA recover, can indeed be fermented with yeasts as simple as those used in breadmaking. The end products in an aerobic environment will be H20 and C02. Neutralize the acidic glycerin with baking soda, dilute at a ratio of 20:1 water/glycerin, add yeast, let set 24 hours then prime with table sugar. Bye Bye glycerin. Neutralized catalyst can be used as fertilizer if the catalyst was KOH. Recovered FFAs can be esterified into biodiesel, used as raw fuel or converted back into soap. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: Ken Provost [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2002 2:53 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] glycerine use Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fw: Drivers License Database - This is Scary!!!
This is a travesty of justice. I have talked to the attorney general and they are online right now trying to shut down the site. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, May 27, 2002 5:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fw: Drivers License Database - This is Scary!!! Big Brother at his worst. Greg H. That's terrifying - there's even a picture of me there, and I don't even have a US licence! :-( Keith - Original Message - From: Lynda [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 00:22 Subject: Fw: Drivers License Database This is really scary. Now you can see anyone's Drivers License on the Internet, including your own! I just searched for mine and there it was, picture and all. I don't think this is a good idea at all!!! I think we should write our congressperson! Go to: http://www.license.shorturl.com/ Lynda Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/DlIU9C/4m7CAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader
Site must be down. Couldn't get the page to come up. Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com; biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2002 9:04 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: [biofuels-biz] Diesel Engine Trader Don't forget the diesel swap page at http://www.webconx.com/dieselshop.htm Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] newsfeeds
If you are looking for this kind of newsfeed you might try www.dieselnet.com Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, May 25, 2002 11:10 PM Hello Murdoch A few months ago Senator Kerry, who is a likely candidate for President in 2004 (and probably someone I'd vote for), launched an across-the-bow campaign aimed at the Bush Administration's Energy Policies. It was well-crafted I thought, but a few weeks later he took a big blow (apparently) when his advocacy of increased diesel use here in the states was criticized by environmentalists. He attempted to discuss the high-mileage properties of diesel, the cleaner diesel used in Europe and so forth, and he was just blasted by a lot of folks, his enemies and allies alike. I saw no info on this at journeyforever.org, Why would you expect to see info on it there? ... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Glitches?
http://www.impsec.org/email-tools/procmail-security.html Here you go... Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, May 22, 2002 8:02 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Glitches? n Wed, May 22, 2002 at 08:50:27PM -0400, Appal Energy wrote: Steve, Might you share the source for that blacklist utility? Procmail is the ultimate mail filter. It can even filter that asian spam crap, on the subject line alone. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] lab supplies
https://www.consolidatedplastics.com/acbnew/webpage.cfm?DID=14 Interesting industrial laboratory supply house. If you are into industrial stuff, order the catalog. I got mine today and it's better than the website. (I have no affiliation with this company) Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] PHOTOS!!!! (BD, of course)
Very well done Christian. Did you get credit at school? Jesse Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/Ey.GAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Biofuels list archives: http://archive.nnytech.net/ Please do NOT send quot;unsubscribequot; messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again
Yeah. Cost me $11 but it is worth it. Jess Portfolio: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2002 1:18 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again Hi Jesse I'm in Chapter one of Seven Sister, the book about the oil companies. It is riveting! Finally the real history of how far the government is up big oil's smoke stack. Indeed yes. It was a pity leaving out the earlier chapters with what I've been sending the list,and get with the program... Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/orkH0C/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again
I'm in Chapter one of Seven Sister, the book about the oil companies. It is riveting! Finally the real history of how far the government is up big oil's smoke stack. Portfolio: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, April 29, 2002 11:32 PM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Is it now time to talk to your congressman?? again I heard sometime back that the company that made MTBE was going to sue the state of California because they had banned MTBE. This was a Canadian company and that the MTBE ban was in violation of the NAFTA agreement. I would take this to mean that MTBE is imported from Canada. California Senator Feinstein says the ethanol provision in the energy bill will cause a gasoline price skyrocket in California because the state will not be able to ship in enought ethanol to meet needs. Why is it any easier to meet MTBE needs from Canada than ethanol from the Midwest. Or maybe MTBE is manufactured in state. If plants to produce MTBE can be constructed to make MTBE in large enought quanities, then why not ethanol plants. California is one of the largest milk produceing states in America so apparently they have cows. If they have cows then they should have some cow feed, right. That should be about all that is needed to produce ethanol. Or maybe a little closer to the truth. Everybody knows that the American government is in bed with big oil. Maybe Feinstein and the N.Y. senators as well, are simply coming up with every excuse they can to protect their true interests. Apparently big oil own some Democrats as well as all Republicans. The hell with America, the hell with California and New York, these people are just out to do what is best for themselves. Typicial politicians. I read somewhere that for every million dollars we spend to buy foreign products we lose so many jobs in the US. I forget the numbers but it was staggering how many jobs are lost because of America's dependence on foreign oil. I would have to think that this would include MTBE from Canada as well. The people who wrote this report didn't say just jobs in the Midwest or on the coasts. Just that they were American jobs. Even if it was only produced in the Midwest it would be good for the whole country. George Why are there no ethanol plants in NY,CA? does nothing grow in these states Do they not have ports to import cheap corn to make ETOH? Does California produce all their own dino-fuel, or did they support building a pipeline down from Alaska. I think there ought to be an added tax on any Ethanol shipped out of a state else the people that paid for these plants are not going to realize the cost savings of local production. Why doesn't CA have enough ethanol plants, the Federal Gov't has been begging and paying for them for a while and its only getting better. Come on Coasties put on your thinking caps and figure out ways to make ethanol and biodiesel and get with the program. __ Your favorite stores, helpful shopping tools and great gift ideas. Experience the convenience of buying online with [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://shopnow.netscape.com/ Get your own FREE, personal Netscape Mail account today at http://webmail.netscape.com/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?
Steve, Found a 99' Jetta TDI for $6900. Needs a couple of front fenders, right side hit, needs a fr/f ront door, but mechanically perfect with 51,ooo miles. I'm I'm going to make the guy an offer tomorrow. Wish me luck. Jesse Portfolio: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 7:22 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Today I test drove a new vw beetle, turbo diesel. Now this is one fine automobile. 44mpg isn't shabby either. saw diesel today for $1.23 / us gallon. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: stewart hyde [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 6:32 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Agreed My 14 year old Citroen BX turbodesel/GTI hybrid Gets 50 mpg (Imperial 4.55 ltr) and runs beautifilly with rapeseed oil @50% fuel extender Stewart from Wales UK where fuel is almost one dollar per litre. - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 27, 2002 3:30 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I would not call 33mpg on premium unleaded clean. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12917 AlterNet -- So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Allie Gottlieb, Metro Silicon Valley http://www.metroactive.com April 19, 2002 If you're like me, and you are, you want a good, cheap, fast, safe and cute car that can take you to work and back, and out for fun, on little or no gas. You also need room to cart around your laptop, your nonfat latte, a pal and your four-piece silver-sparkle Ludwig drum set, which in my case is named Natasha J. Sparky. Since we've got so much in common, it makes sense to share car-search secrets. I'll start. What I've learned about the latest electric, hybrid and just plain cuter- or cleaner-than-thou vehicles that you can buy or lease at this moment there are plenty of choices, combinations and features. Sorting them all out is confusing but not impossible. The ones accessible to me as of presstime were the BMW Mini Cooper, the Honda Insight, the Honda Civic Hybrid, the Honda Civic GX natural-gas vehicle, the Toyota Prius, the Toyota Rav4 EV, the Corbin Sparrow, the Ford Th!nk, the Ford Ranger EV and the DaimlerChrysler GEM. Idling Politics Here's another thing I've learned. Despite all the chatter about fuel efficiency from the Legislature lately, and the attempts by various cities to get their fleets on a greener track, this has been a slow-going revolution with plenty of setbacks. Witness last month's rise and fall of the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards: Senator John Kerry's (D-Mass.) proposal to require new vehicles to average a respectable 36 mpg of gas by 2015 did a giant belly flop. SUVs get to be an estimated 25 percent more polluting than other cars. Gasoline has drivers over an oil barrel, and so, as they do in any time of war with oil-producing nations, gas prices are going up. Despite all this, a good clean car is still hard to find. It seems like we should have evolved more by now. For years, there's been hope that cars will become greener in the form of research on cleaner cars. The web is overflowing with information about alternative fuel vehicles from the U.S. Department of Energy and agencies like the Natural Resources Defense Council that push for fuel-efficiency legislation. Car dealers, however, blame the public's disinterest for the Greenmobile's underwhelming entrance into the market. Almost no one pays any real attention to environmental ratings when buying a car, the dealers say
Re: [biofuel] biodiesel in nederland colorado?
Yes, It's time. Portfolio: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2002 12:55 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] biodiesel in nederland colorado? Okay... Is this an obvious declaration of a need to develop a biodieseler's index of small producers? Todd Swearingen Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] The Ethanol Enigma
Keith, simply astounding...if we had all the history on what big oil has done to suppress the progress of affordable fuels and deter the intellectual growth of research we would probably rise up in arms against this monopoly. I can only dream... Portfolio Resume: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 4:13 PM Subject: [biofuel] The Ethanol Enigma http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12957 AlterNet -- The Ethanol Enigma David Morris, AlterNet April 25, 2002 Ethanol is the homegrown, renewable fuel both conservatives and liberals love to hate. They might change their minds if they better understood its remarkable history. Before the Civil War ethanol, derived from corn or molasses, was one of the nation's best-selling chemicals. It was used primarily as an industrial solvent and illuminant. To finance the war, President Lincoln imposed a Spirits Tax of $2.08 a gallon. Ethanol had to pay the tax because it is liquor, although at 200 proof it makes for a very potent drink. Other poisonous illuminants, like the newly introduced kerosene, were taxed 10 cents a gallon. The Spirits Tax wasn't lifted until 1906, after the oil trust was formed and the automobile industry was born. Nevertheless, ethanol made a modest comeback. By the end of World War II ethanol production had returned to pre-Civil War levels. Then, in 1919 disaster struck again, this time in the form of the 18th Amendment. Prohibition didn't actually prohibit the manufacture of fuel ethanol, but the Treasury Department issued very few production permits for fear that the ethanol would be diverted into the illegal alcohol market. To this day, the ethanol we put in our gas tanks bears a legacy from that era. Just before it leaves the refinery ethanol must be poisoned to make it undrinkable. In the early 1920s, ethanol suffered still another setback. Oil and car companies desperately sought an additive that would permit gasoline to burn uniformly in powerful engines. Ethanol was an attractive candidate. But to do its job well it needed 5 to 10 percent of the gas tank. Oil companies were not about to relinquish that share of the transportation market to farmers, even though American agriculture had just plunged into a severe economic depression that would last two decades. Instead, the companies chose lead. In 1924, despite the protests of many in the public health community, Ethyl Corporation, a partnership of Standard Oil and General Motors offered leaded gasoline. By 1940, 70 percent of all gasoline contained lead. With the end of Prohibition in 1933 ethanol production slowly revived. Then Japan cut off America's supplies of natural rubber. The nation's breweries were drafted into service to manufacture ethanol to make synthetic rubber. By 1944 ethanol production had reached 600 million gallons. After World War II the market and political constituency for ethanol disappeared. The price of oil plummeted. The Marshall Plan generated an export market for American crops. Once again bioethanol vanished from the market. Thirty years later twin oil shocks and the realization that leaded gasoline was a public health hazard combined to give ethanol another lease on life. Congress gave ethanol a handsome tax incentive, although not nearly as handsome as the incentives given for the gasification of coal or the production of nuclear power. The incentive made the price of ethanol competitive with unleaded gasoline but the major oil companies still refused to give up a share of the gas tank. The ethanol industry reemerged primarily by selling its product through independently owned and cooperatively owned gas stations, almost all of them in the Midwest. The phase-out of leaded gasoline furnished ethanol another opportunity to become the octane-enhancing additive of choice. Instead, oil companies chose to increase octane by increasing the portion of light aromatics like benzene, toluene and xylene in their gasoline. By 1990 as much as 40 percent of gasoline was comprised of these highly toxic chemicals. When it was discovered that benzene caused cancer, the 1990 Clean Air Act required oil refineries to minimize its use. The same act also required them to add oxygen to gasoline sold in highly polluted areas of the country. Ethanol, an oxygen-containing octane enhancer, was ready. Instead, the oil companies embraced another 100 percent fossil fuel-derived product: MTBE. In l996, the country began using massive amounts of MTBE. Within months communities discovered MTBE in their ground water. By 2000 14 states, led by California, had passed legislation to phase out MTBE. With the phaseout of MTBE, the ethanol
Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You?
VW Jetti or Passat TDI is the way to go. Portfolio Resume: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: Martin Klingensmith [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 26, 2002 10:50 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? My real car gets 30 mpg. I would think a minicooper would get 50 at least. Maybe on diesel? --- steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I drove a BMW minicooper yesterday, and although it was cute, I would not call 33mpg on premium unleaded clean. Steve Spence Subscribe to the Renewable Energy Newsletter: http://www.webconx.com/subscribe.htm Renewable Energy Pages - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/ Human powered devices, equipment, and transport - http://www.webconx.dns2go.com/2000/humanpower.htm [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 25, 2002 9:23 AM Subject: [biofuel] So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=12917 AlterNet -- So, You Want to Buy a Green Car ... Or Do You? Allie Gottlieb, Metro Silicon Valley http://www.metroactive.com April 19, 2002 If you're like me, and you are, you want a good, cheap, fast, safe and cute car that can take you to work and back, and out for fun, on little or no gas. You also need room to cart around your laptop, your nonfat latte, a pal and your four-piece silver-sparkle Ludwig drum set, which in my case is named Natasha J. Sparky. Since we've got so much in common, it makes sense to share car-search secrets. I'll start. What I've learned about the latest electric, hybrid and just plain cuter- or cleaner-than-thou vehicles that you can buy or lease at this moment there are plenty of choices, combinations and features. Sorting them all out is confusing but not impossible. The ones accessible to me as of presstime were the BMW Mini Cooper, the Honda Insight, the Honda Civic Hybrid, the Honda Civic GX natural-gas vehicle, the Toyota Prius, the Toyota Rav4 EV, the Corbin Sparrow, the Ford Th!nk, the Ford Ranger EV and the DaimlerChrysler GEM. Idling Politics Here's another thing I've learned. Despite all the chatter about fuel efficiency from the Legislature lately, and the attempts by various cities to get their fleets on a greener track, this has been a slow-going revolution with plenty of setbacks. Witness last month's rise and fall of the Corporate Average Fuel Economy standards: Senator John Kerry's (D-Mass.) proposal to require new vehicles to average a respectable 36 mpg of gas by 2015 did a giant belly flop. SUVs get to be an estimated 25 percent more polluting than other cars. Gasoline has drivers over an oil barrel, and so, as they do in any time of war with oil-producing nations, gas prices are going up. Despite all this, a good clean car is still hard to find. It seems like we should have evolved more by now. For years, there's been hope that cars will become greener in the form of research on cleaner cars. The web is overflowing with information about alternative fuel vehicles from the U.S. Department of Energy and agencies like the Natural Resources Defense Council that push for fuel-efficiency legislation. Car dealers, however, blame the public's disinterest for the Greenmobile's underwhelming entrance into the market. Almost no one pays any real attention to environmental ratings when buying a car, the dealers say. Not like, say, the kind of cup holders it has, or how the bike rack attaches or that all-important consumer issue: color. And those fuel inefficient SUVs remain hugely popular, regardless of the fact that they are extraordinarily polluting. According to GreenerCars.com, SUVs pollute about twice as much as, say, my Civic, which on average discharges 2 tons a year more carbon dioxide badness than the Insight. Although engines in general are becoming more efficient, smoother and better-performing, the trend toward larger SUVs and pickups has contributed to the average fuel economy dipping to its lowest point in more than 20 years, notes Consumer Reports' 2002 auto trends report. So that's the bad news, but there's hope. Frankenfans Existing green cars have their fans. According to a Department of Energy report, last year there were nearly 500,000 alternative-fuel vehicles on the roads in the United States. Of those half-million cars, 10,400 were electric. Consumers dedicate websites to electric cars and half-gas, half-electric hybrids, or frankencars. One fan posted a diary all about his
Re: [biofuel] OPEC, Big Oil and you - 13
Haven't got to the that chapter yet. But I did get the book finally! Portfolio Resume: http://www.jesseparris.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/ Jesse Parris | studio53 | graphics / web design | stamford, ct | 203.324.4371 - Original Message - From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, April 24, 2002 4:56 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] OPEC, Big Oil and you - 13 TThe Attack In Washington the oil companies were receiving a political battering unparalleled since the Nazi scandals of 1940. Anyone know this story? Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] the air car
I'm going to weight in with Steve on this one. I would have to see this thing actually work in front of me to believe it. I'm not saying that it can't work, I'm just questioning if it can power a real-world automobile,i.e. safety, weight, etc. Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct portfolio: http://www.jessejames.addr.com/Portfolio_Jesse_Parris/index.htm - Original Message - From: steve spence [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 12, 2002 8:01 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] the air car if it worked, yes. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Re: Enzymes and solid catalysts
Hey Keith, Does this mean that if I come to Japan to start a new biofuels research center I have a place to stay? 8) I actually have a couple of friends in Hong Kong but could not live with them. He works for AIG, and his wife just had twins, so we know they won't be getting any sleep for the next twenty one years! Glenn has a Virgo mind and I really like his ideas! Jesse [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2002 8:30 AM Subject: [biofuel] Re: Enzymes and solid catalysts Hello Glenn Keith, Responding to your msg of the above title, one thing IMO needed for the project to be successful would be to have a particular site where all the info would be collected on the subject of developing a suitable backyard process for producing biodiesel. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4 and no minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Enzymes and solid catalysts - was Re: [biofuel] The thnktnk group
Hey Keith, Let me see if I understand what you are asking here. If you are asking me if I'm going to be experimenting on my own with the new techniques, I'm will not be. However, I'm interested in reading about the application of alternative and progressive additions/advances toward shortening or eliminating the processes regarding esterification-transesterification. I have to tell you though, I'm not as interested in the industrial level possibilities that some here are exploring as much as I'm interested in the garage-home do-it-yourself type of feedback. We are all on the new frontier of energy exploration/systems so who can complain? I love this stuff. Jess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Friday, April 05, 2002 8:24 AM Subject: Enzymes and solid catalysts - was Re: [biofuel] The thnktnk group Who's interested? Lotsa folks, eh? Something we're lacking, and that we need. These techniques have a LOT of advantages to offer. I don't think they're going to replace our existing single-stage and two-stage techniques, but they'll certainly advance our capabilities. They'll go a long way towards solving the glyc problems, for one, and the cloud point problems for another - with these techniques you can for instance use isopropynol or butanol instead of methanol or ethanol to produce branched alkyl esters with very low cloud points, even from tallow. In many ways they're more efficient techniques than transesterification or esterification-transesterification (and a lot easier to type!). It's come up here several times, the last time several months ago, starting once again with the famed INEEL process (Fox-Ginosar), and this time it went somewhere, we agreed to investigate it further and hunt down methods that homebrewers and others can use, and a special group was formed for this purpose. But... Yeah, well. A sorry tale. My message that Glenn refers to below tells part of it. If you want to avoid the Yahoo ads and the treacle-like swimming speed, it's message #12631 at Martin's nnytech archive: http://archive.nnytech.net/index.php?view=12631list=biofuel Scroll down about halfway to The other case is a bit different... Basically, it all got abandoned in favour of methods which are not at all suitable for home-scale, such as supercritical methanol (at 350 deg C - 660 F and 30 MPa - 296 atmospheres, 4,350 lb/sq in). I got an expert opinion on this, who was appalled at the idea of messing with this stuff at anything less than an industrial level. How to die. I posted this opinion to the now more or less moribund thnktnk group that Dana Linscott formed as a closed work group with a handful of Biofuels list members to investigate enzymes and solid catalysts for home-brewers, and, no big surprise, got a pissing-match response from Dana, both on and off-list. Prior to this I'd discussed it off-list with members of that group, trying to find a way forward. I said I didn't want to initiate anything because, considering recent history, it might be seen as some sort of vendetta against Dana, which it's not. (Dana will certainly think that, but that's his problem.) Can you offer any suggestions? I think it should be shifted somewhere else, maybe back to the Biofuels group, or possibly discussed there and then taken somewhere else. Whatever, it seems rather clear that unless somebody takes the initiative now it will die. A real waste. There's a need for this information. (If you're new to all this, see the rest of message #12631 above for some background re Dana.) They agreed there's a need for it, it does need rescuing, it should be shifted away from that group, but they said I should do it. So, sigh, alright already. So I responded to Dana's letter, on-list at thnktnk, trying to keep it factual as much as possible. Looking at the thing in detail, it only confirmed what's already been said - that initiative has gone astray, has abandoned its goals, and is now going nowhere. That got another tirade, off-list (and sent to others I think), but I won't respond to that. I also posted a list of leads on enzymes and solid catalysts the group members had unearthed for further investigation, that had not been investigated - nine of them in all, and there's more info than that there that's just been left hanging, including research contacts made and not followed up and so on. There's good promise here, we can do this, we can find ways and develop good, reliable methods we can all use if we want to. The groundwork's already been done
Re: [biofuel] [Distillers] 1984 Orwell style
Maybe it's got something to do with building a nuclear device. 8) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Ackland, Tony (CALNZAS) (by way of Keith Addison) [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, April 04, 2002 3:14 AM Subject: [biofuel] [Distillers] 1984 Orwell style From one of our members ... * About one month ago, I had someone ring my doorbell. When I answered, I was met by 2 men displaying badges and identifying themselves as agents of the state tax department. They asked if they could talk to me for a minute, to which I consented. They had a folder, with my name on it, which they referred to. They said they had information that I had bought a distillation device From a company in Canada. I had not bought anything from Canada, but had bought a ss still from a company in the US on E-bay. I HAD requested information from the Canadian company, but didn't buy anything. To make a long story short, they wanted to know where the device was now. I told them I had sold it to someone in another state 3 years ago as it didn't distill water fast enough. They told me that they had to track down all stills that might be used to produce alcohol without a permit. I find this totally incomprehensible that a state agency would spend the money to investigate a still purchase that could produce such a small amount of alcohol. They seemed to be satisfied and left..Keep wondering if they will be back with a warrant. I would like to really pursue this, but I don't want to call any further attention to myself. Ridiculous. Bottom line===BE CAREFUL. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/k6cvND/n97DAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Re:New page on SVO at Journey to Forever
Hey Keith, Great update. I think that the command-center module is the best promising idea I've seen so far so I went out to the Biocar.com site to check it out. What a confused bunch of pages when converted to English. While they may be good at designing and building a bio-diesel computerized metering device, they fail miserably at delivering it to the public in a well defined format. I would never send these guys money based on what I've read at the web site. Maybe they are doing great in Germany, but the market is wide open here in the States. I have hopes that a US designer/engineer will take up the cause and develop a similar device that can be sold at a reasonable price. My wife, which I feel represents a lot of green thinkers, says she does not want to be bothered with cutting on and off various switches and monitoring dials/gauges when driving. Fair enough. However, she likes the idea of using wvo/svo in a diesel. So the command center module is very appealing but would have to be completely automatic for main stream users to have it in their autos. I can do the mechanical/electrical end of the installation, but designing a chip, well, that's another matter. Any software/hardware designers out there? Cheers! Jess [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Enlist the help of Congress was: car conversion
Well said, Crag! [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Craig Rogers [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, March 20, 2002 12:31 PM Subject: [biofuel] Enlist the help of Congress was: car conversion Maybe we should just start hounding Congress to support biodiesel in any way possible, including paying farmers to grow soy for its production and mandating its use over petroleum diesel. They could do all of this in the name of the WAR and Homeland Security. They seem to be able to pass anything else for these reasons, why not support for biodiesel? Sincerely, Craig Rogers Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms
Wait a minute! I thought that most accidents were alcohol induced according to National statistics. Let's just outlaw alcohol8) ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Alan S. Petrillo [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2002 1:11 PM Subject: [biofuel] Debate on fuel economy standards opens, pitting conservationists against soccer moms Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [snip] Levin noted that the scientists refused to recommend a specific fuel economy standard and acknowledged that past increases in fuel economy led to smaller, lighter cars and thousands of additional traffic deaths. I challenge him to prove this claim. The only reason the smaller, lighter cars might lead to thousands of additional traffic deaths is because they're going to come into conflict with older, heaver vehicles. It's like saying they have to be built heavy because they've always been built heavy. With an attitude like that we'll never make any progress in fuel economy. Or safety. Building decent _safety equipment_ and -=*GETTING PEOPLE TO USE IT*=- is, IMHO _the_ major factor in vehicle safety. Much more so than the false sense of safety caused by big, heavy SUV's which are _more_ likely to roll over and kill their occupants than smaller, lighter vehicles. Particularly the ones who don't have their seat belts on. AP -- Aviation is more than a hobby. It is more than a job. It is more than a career. Aviation is a way of life. A second language for the world: www.esperanto.com Processor cycles are a terrible thing to waste: www.distributed.net Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel hybrid hypercar gets 80mpg
Keith, Great article. ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: biofuels-biz@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:19 AM Subject: [biofuel] Biodiesel hybrid hypercar gets 80mpg Three-part story, first two parts here, very interesting read! http://evworld.com/databases/storybuilder.cfm?storyid=312 EV World:It's An ENIGMA http://www.evworld.com/databases/storybuilder.cfm?storyid=315 EV World:It's An ENIGMA - Part 2 Best Keith Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel hybrid hypercar gets 80mpg
I'm with Harmon on this. Why not build a retro fitting system for some of the vehicles we already have? ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Harmon Seaver [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 11:24 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Biodiesel hybrid hypercar gets 80mpg On Tue, Mar 12, 2002 at 01:09:40PM -0500, Appal Energy wrote: Thanks Keith...! Superb read. Yes, that's pretty neat, eh? I'm a bit surprised at the complex transmission tho, but I suppose they wanted maximum performance. Seems like a better way would be pure electric drive, and the engine powering a bigger generator to run the motors at the wheels. I didn't see any mention of regenerative braking either. This is not to denigrate in any way what they've done -- if, however, I ever reach the point of actually building a hybrid I'd do it a bit differently. In fact it would seem that you could convert a vehicle like my '91 Toyota 4wd quite easily if you replaced the tranny with say a 125kw induction motor, and put a 50kw motor on each of the differentials, front and rear, adding a battery pack. Or some variation of that, maybe I'm going too big on the motors. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research
Todd, I saw some farmland for sale for a ridiculous low amount in New Mexico: 160 acres with two large metal buildings in good shape. They've got jojoba trees growing on 60 acres now, but I wonder if one could grow oil palm there. 635 gal yield is a of earl. How fast is the bring to market time for the oil palm trees/bushes? Jess ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Approximately 70 gallons of oil per acre when grown specifically for oiilseed. Less if fiber is the primary co-product. Would have to scrape up year old notes from a dust-collecting pile to calculate residual oil content in the meal and total oilseed yields. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: MH To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Anyone know hemp's oilseed yield in Lbs/acre or kg/hectare ? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: Jojoba was Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research
Great article. Geo-politics at it's worst and best. ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 3:55 PM Subject: Jojoba was Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Jess, In general, a palm reaches maturity in 10-15 years and is best acclimitized to tropical climates. I would tend to believe that palm would not do well, if at all, in New Mexico. Jojoba, on the other hand has enormous potential in arid regions. It's only disbenefit from the biodiesel side is that it polymerizes easily. Essentially, this means that it thickens, especially when left in an open environment. While it could be used as a biodiesel feedstock, it probably should not be left for long periods in near empty fuel tanks. If kept in an airtight or reasonably air tight environment with little air, such as a full fuel tank, it probably would not pose any problem over lengthy periods. http://www.armchair.com/warp/jojoba1.html Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: studio53 To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 8:44 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Todd, I saw some farmland for sale for a ridiculous low amount in New Mexico: 160 acres with two large metal buildings in good shape. They've got jojoba trees growing on 60 acres now, but I wonder if one could grow oil palm there. 635 gal yield is a of earl. How fast is the bring to market time for the oil palm trees/bushes? Jess ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Appal Energy [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 1:46 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Approximately 70 gallons of oil per acre when grown specifically for oiilseed. Less if fiber is the primary co-product. Would have to scrape up year old notes from a dust-collecting pile to calculate residual oil content in the meal and total oilseed yields. Todd Swearingen - Original Message - From: MH To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2002 4:04 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Fwd: [biofuels-biz] Market research Anyone know hemp's oilseed yield in Lbs/acre or kg/hectare ? Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Test
It's Yahoo. ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Greg and April [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, March 05, 2002 8:43 PM Subject: [biofuel] Test Test Time sent -- 21:43 Please excuse this post. Something is going on with my e-mail, I've posted a few times today, but, have only recieved 1 of my post to come back thru the group e-mail. So I am seeing how long it is taking to get back to me, in effort to find out were the problem is. Greg H. Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[biofuel] Two other great free programs for converting that I use
Try this for converting numbers http://www.joshmadison.com/software/ Try this for currency conversion http://www.belgraver.demon.nl/currconv2/ ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- FREE COLLEGE MONEY CLICK HERE to search 600,000 scholarships! http://us.click.yahoo.com/iZp8OC/4m7CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Surfing the world's patent databases
I don't get what Shukrainternationals is trying to say. Is it that advertising the software at his site is a bad thing? ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Shukrainternationals [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 4:56 AM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Surfing the world's patent databases You have used this site to promote IP-Discover product. This type of misuse discourages the visitors to come back to this site. - Original Message - From: tslothrop2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 1:29 AM Subject: [biofuel] Surfing the world's patent databases Hi Folks: It's remarkable to me how much practical information concerning renewable energy technology is stored in the patent databases of the world. This tool makes mining those databases a lot easier. http://www.ipdiscover.com Check it out. It's a great stimulus to new ideas. . . . Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Range Rover '89 TDi conversion
Malcolm, Have any pictures of the conversion? I'm sure we would all like to see and hear about it. Thanks, Jesse ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: malcolm maclure [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2002 10:14 PM Subject: [biofuel] Range Rover '89 TDi conversion Dear Rawls, I saw your post on the Biofuel group. We have a G reg RR, a tdi conversion (from a 4.9 petrol) I'd love to chat. I'm very interested in biodiesel ethanol production use! So do get in touch! Cheers Malcolm Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Buy Stock for $4. No Minimums. FREE Money 2002. http://us.click.yahoo.com/BgmYkB/VovDAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] megalist
Great news, Keith. I know I enjoy the knowledge and have hope that someday we can all shift the world from being so dependent on dino-oil. ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Keith Addison [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Saturday, February 09, 2002 8:51 AM Subject: [biofuel] megalist We just hit 1001 members. Keith Addison Journey to Forever Handmade Projects Osaka, Japan http://journeytoforever.org/ List owner Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Reply for assault vehicles and fuel alcohol questions
That's a big plus in your favor, Anton, meanwhile back at the fryer ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Anton Berteaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 9:46 AM Subject: RE: [biofuel] Reply for assault vehicles and fuel alcohol questions at least i don't look like Hilary Clinton anton -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2002 7:37 AM To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [biofuel] Reply for assault vehicles and fuel alcohol questions You guys are starting to sound like Hillary Clinton. [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Imported post
Pontiac Fiero? That's pretty funny... this has got to be a joke! ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: motie_d [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 11:50 AM Subject: [biofuel] Imported post A MODEST PROPOSAL: BAN ASSAULT VEHICLES by J.Kish, Vieth Sports Supply, Mentor Ohio Pursuant to recent legislative events and heightened concern for public safety, the political climate is ripe for the following proposal. As is well known, traffic accidents are the number one cause of death and injury in the United States. Trauma centers are choked with victims of reckless driving, overburdening health care facilities and the insurance industry. Past laws have been ineffective at curbing irresponsible and/or criminal behavior such as speeding and driving while under the influence of intoxicants. Therefore, what must be controlled is the free and easy access to dangerous and overpowered vehicles of foreign and domestic manufacture. Proposal: Ban assault vehicles An assault vehicle is a vehicle which by its appearance and capabilities inspires the driver to behave as if the nation's highways were competitive racetracks. The following are dangerous assault vehicles and should be banned from production and importation: Lamborgini Countach Ferarri Testarossa Toyota MR2 Chevrolet Corvette Mazda Miata Mercury Capri Pontiac Fiero BWM 735i Acura Integra Nissan 300ZX Chevrolet Camero Mazda RX7 Plymouth Laser Dodge Viper Dodge Stealth Ford Mustang Ford Probe Honda CRX Jaguar XJE Also to be banned are any look-alikes of the listed vehicles as well as any vehicles possessing one or more of the following characteristics: Capable of speeds over 70 mph Ground effects Dual exhausts Performance tires Limited to dual seats Aerodynamic devices that protrude conspicuously from the rear of the vehicle Vehicles possessing these features have no legitimate transportation purpose. Vehicles which are constructed with the capability of vastly exceeding the legal speed limit are produced for unlawful purposes and have no place in this society. Owners of these vehicles can have no purpose in mind for them other than to commit illegal acts that put the general public at risk. Legislators should be petitioned and media support should be sought for this common sense measure. If only one fatality is prevented, the benefits will far outstrip the cost and inconvenience. Owners of such vehicles purchased before the ban is enacted should be required to register their vehicle as an assault vehicle with their state DMV. Failure to do so within a 90-day grace period should result in fining, imprisonment, and permanent revocation of driving privileges. DO IT FOR THE CHILDREN Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Imported post
Geeshwho knew? ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Jean-Leon Morin [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, February 04, 2002 4:09 PM Subject: Re: [biofuel] Imported post Pontiac Fiero? That's pretty funny... this has got to be a joke! ref http:// Actually the Pontiac Fiero, with it's deathtrap fire hazard status, is one of the only vehicles on this list that should be banned for endangering the public. Plus, it is often used for ferrari body kit conversions and tweaked to make it scary fast, resulting in home built bullets designed by backyard engineers who don't have the skills necessary to actually make a safe car. I won't comment on the actual post itself... J-L Earthships. Vintage Land-Rovers. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor -~-- Get your FREE credit report with a FREE CreditCheck Monitoring Service trial http://us.click.yahoo.com/ACHqaB/bQ8CAA/ySSFAA/FGYolB/TM -~- Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Please do NOT send unsubscribe messages to the list address. To unsubscribe, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [biofuel] Fw: Tickell Biodiesel Report for January 2002
What seminars where? ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Bill Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; [EMAIL PROTECTED]; biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 6:15 PM Subject: [biofuel] Fw: Tickell Biodiesel Report for January 2002 Tickell's book is The definitive work on small scale biodiesel. I have no doubt that these seminars will be most beneficial. With Oil Depletion on the horizon, every alternative will be needed. Biodiesel is a net positive energy gsin better than ethanol. Bill P - Cincy, OH. - Original Message - From: Joshua Tickell/The Veggie Van [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: List Member [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 1:10 AM Subject: Tickell Biodiesel Report for January 2002 This newsletter is not sent unsolicited. See the end of this message for more info (including unsubscribe info). THE TICKELL BIODIESEL REPORT Available online at http://www.VeggieVan.org Alternative Fuel From Vegetable Oil and Other Sustainable Technologies With over 7,000 subscribers in 20 countries e-mail Edition for January 2002 Published by Joshua Tickell [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Contents: 1. Opening Letter 2. Fuel is Released 3. The Veggie Car Is Born 4. 2002 Biodiesel Workshop Dates Announced 5. Biodiesel Media Campaign Begins 6. Brad Pitt Denounces Foreign Oil 7. Book Video Ordering Details *** 1. OPENING LETTER *** Since the end of 2001, I've received a number of e-mails from people who feel that now is the time for the US to invest in the development of a strong domestic fuel industry based on clean, renewable fuels. Even Brad Pitt agrees (scroll down for article). The events last year have prompted people to question our continuing dependency on Middle Eastern oil. In the decade between 1990 and 2000, annual US domestic oil production dropped by about 2 billion barrels and continues to drop each year. Meanwhile, the US uses about 6.5 billion barrels of oil annually. As US production drops, we get ever closer to importing 50% of our fuel from the Middle East (the point at which the Middle Eastern nations will control 50% of US liquid fuel energy.) (US DOE). The money we send abroad for oil fuels the military regimes and terrorist organizations that now strike at heart of our democratic society. We can determine how our politicians and our oil companies spend our money. We can create energy policies that don't claim lives. We - as Americans - can stand up and demand domestic alternative fuels. We have the power to change the course of history. And we have the power to do it now! Here are three things that each of us can do this month to put alternative fuels on the map: 1) Get educated about alternative fuels. There are almost limitless Internet resources (including the many listed at http://www.veggievan.org) and many great books (including my book, From the Fryer to the Fuel Tank) on alternative energy. 2) Talk to your local politicians about running public vehicles running on biodiesel. (Most public vehicles are diesels and just one city council person can have great influence over a city's fuel choice). 3) Approach administrators at local educational institutions and offer to guest lecture on alternative fuels. Students from grade-schoolers to graduate students enjoy learning about alternative fuels. *** 2. FUEL IS RELEASED *** The year is 1973. The United States is crippled by an oil crisis. Demand for fuel skyrockets while supplies dwindle. Hank Prouge has an invention that could put an end to dirty oil politics - forever. It's an engine that runs on vegetable oil and it's in his red sports car. The only thing Hank needs now is a patent for his engine. But the forces that stand between Hank and a patent may be bigger than anyone can imagine. Shooting my 16mm final graduate film, Fuel, was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life. My house became a studio, a production office, and a hotel. For 72 hours, a constant stream of people and equipment rolled in and out of my front
Re: [biofuel] Fw: Tickell Biodiesel Report for January 2002
That pretty good, Ed ref http:// Jesse Parris|studio53| graphics / web design| stamford, ct|[EMAIL PROTECTED] __ This information , and any attachments may contain confidential information and is intended solely for the attention and use of the named addressee(s). ~~~ - Original Message - From: Neoteric Biofuels Inc. [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: biofuel@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2002 7:05 PM Subject: FW: [biofuel] Fw: Tickell Biodiesel Report for January 2002 What's the sequel to Josh's FUEL and America's Favorite Vegetable Oil Sports Car?... The Slow and the Nefarious? Watch clubs of bored American teens as they race diesel automatic Jettas and 300D's for pink slips (reaching blistering, dangerous speeds of up to 30mph, on freeway on-ramps). Then, they steal drums of old cooking oil from behind restaurants, to finance their crazed addiction to Pollak valves and fuel heaters. The climax is when the hero of the story triggers his steering-wheel-mounted PTT switch, activating the on-board sodium hydroxide/ethanol injector system, instantaneously injecting a stream of continuous process biodiesel into the already-thin SVO...for that extra .35 HP that wins the day! Vin (ZX348657WVW58767) Diesel stars in this high FFA, hard-smelling, slow-paced drama, along with a few nameless geeks and some gorgeous young females. Don't miss it! ;-) Edward Beggs www.biofuels.ca -- From: Bill Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** 2. FUEL IS RELEASED *** The year is 1973. The United States is crippled by an oil crisis. Demand for fuel skyrockets while supplies dwindle. Hank Prouge has an invention that could put an end to dirty oil politics - forever. It's an engine that runs on vegetable oil and it's in his red sports car. The only thing Hank needs now is a patent for his engine. But the forces that stand between Hank and a patent may be bigger than anyone can imagine. Shooting my 16mm final graduate film, Fuel, was one of the most rewarding experiences of my life. My house became a studio, a production office, and a hotel. For 72 hours, a constant stream of people and equipment rolled in and out of my front door. Among the many people who contributed to the film were Bill Webster and his daughter Rena who responded to my newsletter request for crew by driving from Mississippi to Tallahassee via Atlanta to work on the film. I owe them very special thanks for their hard work on this project. See for yourself if Fuel captures the look, the feel, and the sentiment of the early 1970's. Watch it and peek behind the scenes at http://www.Fuel-theMovie.com *** 3. THE VEGGIE CAR IS BORN *** A cool breeze ripped through my hair, the whine of the freshly rebuilt diesel engine filled my ears, and the faint smell of french fries cycled through the cockpit. The Veggie Car zipped past a few cows grazing next to a windmill and hugged a corner at 65mph. Beneath me, the vehicle felt like a rocket. No vibrations, no shakes. Just power and forward motion. We flew under a canopy of ancient oaks and broke through streams of sunlight. Up ahead, the road evened out between golden winter fields. Housed in the body of a 1971 Nissan 240Z is a 2.8 liter diesel engine. The newly restored engine has run on nothing but biodiesel fuel. Although I'm still working the kinks out, The Veggie Car should be ready to hit the road and meet America by late 2002. Come see the car at http://www.VeggieCar.com *** 4. 2002 BIODIESEL WORKSHOP DATES *** Thanks to David Max and the wonderful folks at Solar Energy International (SEI), last year's SEI Biodiesel Workshop was a great success. There was such a long waiting list for people who wanted to attend that there are two biodiesel workshops for 2002. Participants in these workshops will make biodiesel fuel with locally available materials and learn how to make a biodiesel processor to make their own biodiesel. The first workshop will take place from June 4th through June 7th at the Max Farm just outside of Missoula, Montana. The second workshop will take place from September 9-13 at Guidestone Farm just outside Loveland, Colorado. The cost of registration for either workshop is $500. You can sign up online and get more info. at http://www.solarenergy.org/biofuel.html Or e-mail David Max at: [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** 5. BIODIESEL MEDIA CAMPAIGN BEGINS
