Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
My understanding is that fermented soy products and the non-fermented ones are two very different kettles of fish. I remember reading somewhere to that in the Asian countries they don't drink plain soy or eat plain soy/tofu a great deal - not like most of those in North America whom eat soy products. Most of the soy they do ingest is in the fermented form. There are many articles about soy on the Weston Price Foundation. The Ploy of Soy Describes the historical use of fermented soy products in China and the dangers of non-fermented soy products being marketed as healthy in America today, ... 34 references www.westonaprice.org/soy/ploy.html Soy: The Dark Side of America's Favorite Health Food by Sally Fallon and Mary G. Enig, PhD - includes some references _http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/darkside.html_ (http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/darkside.html) Sources: _www.csa.com/hottopics/thyroid/oview.html_ (http://www.csa.com/hottopics/thyroid/oview.html) _soyonlineservice.co.nz_ (http://www.soyonlineservice.co.nz/) _www.westonaprice.org_ (http://www.westonaprice.org) Reply to Robert Cohen, the Not Milk Man plus 11 References. _http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html_ (http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/notmilk.html) Confused About Soy?--Soy Dangers Summarized _http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html_ (http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html) (http://www.westonaprice.org/soy/index.html) * High levels of phytic acid in soy reduce assimilation of calcium, magnesium, copper, iron and zinc. Phytic acid in soy is not neutralized by ordinary preparation methods such as soaking, sprouting and long, slow cooking. High phytate diets have caused growth problems in children. * Trypsin inhibitors in soy interfere with protein digestion and may cause pancreatic disorders. In test animals soy containing trypsin inhibitors caused stunted growth. * Soy phytoestrogens disrupt endocrine function and have the potential to cause infertility and to promote breast cancer in adult women. * Soy phytoestrogens are potent antithyroid agents that cause hypothyroidism and may cause thyroid cancer. In infants, consumption of soy formula has been linked to autoimmune thyroid disease. * Vitamin B12 analogs in soy are not absorbed and actually increase the body's requirement for B12. * Soy foods increase the body's requirement for vitamin D. * Fragile proteins are denatured during high temperature processing to make soy protein isolate and textured vegetable protein. * Processing of soy protein results in the formation of toxic lysinoalanine and highly carcinogenic nitrosamines. * Free glutamic acid or MSG, a potent neurotoxin, is formed during soy food processing and additional amounts are added to many soy foods. * Soy foods contain high levels of aluminum which is toxic to the nervous system and the kidneys. best wishes Shan In a message dated 08/07/2008 1:08:27 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: /pipermail/attachments/20080708/b2c630be/attachment.html ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today? Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic. Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may be boosting the rapidly rising incidence of leukemia in children. In the latest year we have numbers for, new cases in the U.S. jumped 27 percent. In one year! There's also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults - especially breast cancer. That's why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy. In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods in U.S. supermarkets now contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next few years because (last I heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA hierarchy are considering allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars, fake milk, fake yogurt, etc., to claim that soy prevents cancer. It
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today? Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic. Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today? Recent
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Asians have only used soy for human consumption for the past century. Prior to that, it was only used for cattle fodder or to ferment to a sauce. no shi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to
Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend to be more informed than the general public. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article Kirk Andy Karpay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy
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Uh, isn't mother's milk kind of designed for infants to drink? Why we would feed them cows milk or liquid derived from legumes is a little beyond me. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend to be more informed than the general public. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article Kirk Andy Karpay [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads
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In the US we dont get 6 months mothers leave like the rest of you. Sad but true. Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, isn't mother's milk kind of designed for infants to drink? Why we would feed them cows milk or liquid derived from legumes is a little beyond me. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend to be more informed than the general public. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article Kirk Andy Karpay wrote: Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable
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Yeah, kind of sad that as a society we see investing some time in our kid's future (be it for breast feeding, or spending time with them, teaching them, or whatever) as taking time away from the all mighty gross national product... work, work, work. If it doesn't make money, it's not worth doing... what is this country coming to? Reminds me of the Cat Steven's song Cats in the cradle (Not sure if he wrote it, but I like his version of it) Z On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 9:13 PM, Kirk McLoren [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: In the US we dont get 6 months mothers leave like the rest of you. Sad but true. Zeke Yewdall [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Uh, isn't mother's milk kind of designed for infants to drink? Why we would feed them cows milk or liquid derived from legumes is a little beyond me. On Tue, Jul 8, 2008 at 4:38 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: Sadly not a rumor. Notice body builders use soy only as isolate. They tend to be more informed than the general public. http://www.healingdaily.com/detoxification-diet/soy.htm Health-conscious Americans believe in the benefits of tofu, infant formula and other food products made from soybeans and soy extract. But their assumption is now being called into question by Jill Schneider, associate professor of biological sciences at Lehigh University in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. In a study of hamsters completed under Schneider's direction, it was recently found that a component of soy beans - isoflavones - significantly accelerated the onset of puberty in the rodents. Lots of other bad side effects referred to in article Kirk Andy Karpay wrote: Don't know anything about the subject. However, I'll bet dollars to donuts that this 'rumor' was started by someone associated with the meat industry, a lobbyist, or Karl Rove himself. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of no shi Sent: Tuesday, July 08, 2008 12:55 PM To: sustainablelorgbiofuel@sustainablelists.org Subject: Re: [Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay' I see no lack of fertility (or 'gayness' )with the Asian population and soy is used everywhere in Asia. But if it is proven to be feminizing then all the more reason to just use it as diesel fuel and not eat it! ns --- Kirk McLoren wrote: Not if it is my grandchildren - and I assume you would share this re your own. Since this is an established medical fact the continuance of approval for soy formula sort of tips their hand doesnt it? Yes- I believe soy is being used for population control. This was posted to encourage the avoidance of a toxic food being sold as a health food. Without your health you have nothing. As for testosterone needed by males it most certainly is and I suspect by females as well. DHEA supplementation has done wonders for me. Anyone over 40 should investigate it. By 60 your natural production is woefully inadequate. So to ingest an antaganon to testosterone is very very bad. Kirk Zeke Yewdall wrote: Given the population pressures the world is facing (or least the developed world with our extravagant lifestyle), wouldn't this be a good thing? On Mon, Jul 7, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Kirk McLoren wrote: http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern (c) 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development
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Hi All ; Yes there is a strong possiblity of truth here. I saw some previous comments about countries using soy for a hundred years, but this misses the point. What we are talking about is feeding a newborn baby with large doses of soy, which certainly is a significantly change, and has not been done for a hundred years. For me, the issue here is much larger than soy, and it goes back to the moment of conception (or even further). You must realize that a fertilized egg is one cell that eventually grows to become a person with a brain, bones, eyes, internal organs, etc. Think about it, quite amazing actually how one cell can become so many different types of cells. Then consider what it is that controls this fantastically complex grand symphony. It is a combination of DNA and hormones and minute amounts of chemical substances which control it. Now let's take a look at all the highly chemically reactive chemicals we expose ourselves to on a daily basis : flourine in toothpaste, drinking water and non-stick pans, mercury in fillings and vaccines, MSG in foods, cigarette and diesel smoke, antibiotics, herbicides and pesticides in food, etc, etc, etc. Does anyone think that it is impossible for one or more of these highly chemically reactive agents to affect in subtle ways the delicate balance of a growing fetus or child?? I wouldn't bet on it. We already know that cigarette smoking by pregnant women causes problems for the fetus (low birth weight for one). In future years I believe we will learn many more lessons about what affects a fetus or growing child. Best Regards, Peter G. Thailand ___ Biofuel mailing list Biofuel@sustainablelists.org http://sustainablelists.org/mailman/listinfo/sustainablelorgbiofuel Biofuel at Journey to Forever: http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel.html Search the combined Biofuel and Biofuels-biz list archives (70,000 messages): http://www.mail-archive.com/biofuel@sustainablelists.org/
[Biofuel] Fw: Soy is making kids 'gay'
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.viewpageId=39253 Soy is making kids 'gay' Posted: December 12, 2006 1:00 am Eastern © 2008 Read all of Rutz's columns on soy for the whole story: Soy is making kids 'gay' The trouble with soy - part 2 The trouble with soy - part 3 The trouble with soy - part 4 The trouble with soy - part 5 The trouble with soy - part 6 There's a slow poison out there that's severely damaging our children and threatening to tear apart our culture. The ironic part is, it's a health food, one of our most popular. Now, I'm a health-food guy, a fanatic who seldom allows anything into his kitchen unless it's organic. I state my bias here just so you'll know I'm not anti-health food. The dangerous food I'm speaking of is soy. Soybean products are feminizing, and they're all over the place. You can hardly escape them anymore. I have nothing against an occasional soy snack. Soy is nutritious and contains lots of good things. Unfortunately, when you eat or drink a lot of soy stuff, you're also getting substantial quantities of estrogens. Estrogens are female hormones. If you're a woman, you're flooding your system with a substance it can't handle in surplus. If you're a man, you're suppressing your masculinity and stimulating your female side, physically and mentally. In fetal development, the default is being female. All humans (even in old age) tend toward femininity. The main thing that keeps men from diverging into the female pattern is testosterone, and testosterone is suppressed by an excess of estrogen. If you're a grownup, you're already developed, and you're able to fight off some of the damaging effects of soy. Babies aren't so fortunate. Research is now showing that when you feed your baby soy formula, you're giving him or her the equivalent of five birth control pills a day. A baby's endocrine system just can't cope with that kind of massive assault, so some damage is inevitable. At the extreme, the damage can be fatal. Soy is feminizing, and commonly leads to a decrease in the size of the penis, sexual confusion and homosexuality. That's why most of the medical (not socio-spiritual) blame for today's rise in homosexuality must fall upon the rise in soy formula and other soy products. (Most babies are bottle-fed during some part of their infancy, and one-fourth of them are getting soy milk!) Homosexuals often argue that their homosexuality is inborn because I can't remember a time when I wasn't homosexual. No, homosexuality is always deviant. But now many of them can truthfully say that they can't remember a time when excess estrogen wasn't influencing them. Doctors used to hope soy would reduce hot flashes, prevent cancer and heart disease, and save millions in the Third World from starvation. That was before they knew much about long-term soy use. Now we know it's a classic example of a cure that's worse than the disease. For example, if your baby gets colic from cow's milk, do you switch him to soy milk? Don't even think about it. His phytoestrogen level will jump to 20 times normal. If he is a she, brace yourself for watching her reach menarche as young as seven, robbing her of years of childhood. If he is a boy, it's far worse: He may not reach puberty till much later than normal. Research in 2000 showed that a soy-based diet at any age can lead to a weak thyroid, which commonly produces heart problems and excess fat. Could this explain the dramatic increase in obesity today? Recent research on rats shows testicular atrophy, infertility and uterus hypertrophy (enlargement). This helps explain the infertility epidemic and the sudden growth in fertility clinics. But alas, by the time a soy-damaged infant has grown to adulthood and wants to marry, it's too late to get fixed by a fertility clinic. Worse, there's now scientific evidence that estrogen ingredients in soy products may be boosting the rapidly rising incidence of leukemia in children. In the latest year we have numbers for, new cases in the U.S. jumped 27 percent. In one year! There's also a serious connection between soy and cancer in adults - especially breast cancer. That's why the governments of Israel, the UK, France and New Zealand are already cracking down hard on soy. In sad contrast, 60 percent of the refined foods in U.S. supermarkets now contain soy. Worse, soy use may double in the next few years because (last I heard) the out-of-touch medicrats in the FDA hierarchy are considering allowing manufacturers of cereal, energy bars, fake milk, fake yogurt, etc., to claim that soy prevents cancer. It doesn't. P.S.: Soy sauce is fine. Unlike soy milk, it's perfectly safe because it's fermented, which changes its molecular structure. Miso, natto and tempeh are also OK, but avoid tofu. -- next part -- An HTML
