RE: [svg-developers] generate xml with javascript?
Hi Tobbe, I've used JSRS for transmitting XML with success on both Windows and Mac platforms. I remember having do some hacking on it, but I think that was to do with use of multi-byte data (e.g. Japanese). I generated XML text from a javascript object model, so didn't even need XML DOM support. Check out JSRS at http://www.ashleyit.com/rs/jsrs/test.htm Cheers David BTW, I talked to God this morning, and he didn't mention having any problems with javascript :-) -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of god Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 2:06 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] generate xml with javascript? Hi My question: Is it possible to generate XML and send back to server with javascript? eg. I've generated Xml document from a database on the server side, send it to the client that views the document as an interactive SVG. On clientside the SVG is manipulated (the DOM tree is changed), (how) can I render a new changed XML document and post back to the server which will store the new information in the database? Regards! Tobbe - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links [This E-mail scanned for viruses] [This E-mail scanned for viruses] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] new SVG Game: Sokoban
Hago Ziegler wrote: Holger Will schrieb: ive just uploaded a new svg game to my website: I tried to play with Opers8 and the ASV3 plugin: I can see the images and change the levels, but I can't move your little friend. In IE6 it's working fine, with exactly the same plugin. All the other SVGs on your site are OK in Opera, also these from extending SVG with XSLT Hi Hago mmh... i guess thats either missing keybord events, or some problems with operas scripting engine. i will let you know when i can fix it. thanks for testing, and sorry for the complications. regards Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash
Rick Bullotta wrote: Interesting press release. http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.epx?PressID=4519 Flash ? SAP ?? this is an SVG forum, right ? could you explain how this relates to SVG ? regards Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Enterprise Application Use of Flash
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Bullotta wrote: Interesting press release. http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.epx?PressID=4519 Flash ? SAP ?? this is an SVG forum, right ? could you explain how this relates to SVG ? regards Holger Holger, stand back, get out of your cozy little niche, and you might get it;-) Best Regards Paul - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Enterprise Application Use of Flash
welkerpaul wrote: --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rick Bullotta wrote: Interesting press release. http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.epx?PressID=4519 Flash ? SAP ?? this is an SVG forum, right ? could you explain how this relates to SVG ? regards Holger Holger, stand back, get out of your cozy little niche, and you might get it;-) Best Regards Paul Hi Paul im standing outside now, sunny wether,clear blue sky, additionally ive again read the article 3 times, and still couldnt find any relevance to SVG. ok SAP could have chosen SVG instead of flash. but they didnt , so what? regards Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Enterprise Application Use of Flash
Holger Will wrote: ok SAP could have chosen SVG instead of flash. but they didnt , so what? well hey, soon we won't be able to tell the difference between the two anyway :-) - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG Java servlets
derguteonkeldod wrote:
Thank you very much for this explanation, Peter!
A link that explains in detail with examples the servlet-JavaScript
interaction is further more very apprechiated.
--- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Peter Thompson
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There are lots of people here who can explain this.
Generally, SVG and JavaScript are both running in a browser on a
client. SVG communicates with JavaScript via events. JavaScript
updates the DOM, which is the in-memory representation of the SVG.
See this link for a working example of JavaScript/SVG interaction:
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG11/script.html#EventHandling
The Java Servlets run on a web server that supports servlets (e.g.,
Tomcat). The client JavaScript that is embedded in the SVG can
communicate with a servlet via getURL() and postURL() calls. For
example, the client can call getURL(url, callback) to execute the
doGet() function in a servlet. In Tomcat, the url is mapped to the
servlet via the web.xml file. The doGet() function on the server
returns a result to the client, which causes the callback function on
the client to be called. The callback function parses the results and
updates the DOM, causing the display to be updated.
getURL() and postURL() are supported by the Adobe SVG and Batik
viewers, but not all viewers.
I don't know of a link that explains in detail with examples the
servlet-JavaScript interaction (maybe someone else can provide this).
If you know how to do servlets on your web server, then getting them
to work with client JavaScript and SVG isn't difficult.
I learn how to do servlet this week, so such topic suddenly has some
interest for me...
I think Peter gave an excellent explaination on how to proceed.
I googled for [svg geturl posturl] and found this page:
http://jibbering.com/2002/5/dynamic-update-svg.html
which is a very clear explaination on how to use getURL.
The core of the mechanism is getURL. For a servlet, I suppose you can
use something like:
getURL('/SVGWebApp/servlet/SVGDataGenerator?clickedButton=' + buttNb,
callBackFunction)
The servlet handles the parameters (Jim uses no parameter at all, which
is fine for just outputting data evolving with time) in the doGet, and
spits out a file containing either plain text data or XML (perhaps SVG
fragments), which can be parsed in the callBackFunction using the
obj.content (and perhaps the obj.contentType if needed).
Sorry, I am only paraphrasing Peter and Jim, but I though that
formulating it (slightly) differently could help understanding.
Right now, my schedule doesn't allow me to experiment with this,
although I find this exciting, so I will think of a possible application
(one could show, eg., a graph showing off the CPU/memory load of the
server, if he/she know how to get this info in Java) and experiment as
soon as possible.
Of course, if I ever find time for this, I will make the results public,
here and/or on my site.
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[svg-developers] Animated mathematics
For those interested in e-learning of math: Hi, Some of you may remember, a talk I gave at the SVGOpen2003 under the name Animated mathematics. In the mean time, the part of the project, including differentiation and integration with one variable was completed, and it is now on the web at http://mathanimated.com/ . It uses HTML, MathML, SVG and Ecma-script. There are more than 70 SVG figures with animation and/or interactivity. You are invited to take a four weeks free subscribtion. I'll be very glad to receive any comments (good or bad). Enjoy, Samy - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: SVG Elearning Examples?
Hi Andreas, Look at the massage 49453, I've just posted (Animated mathematics). I guess this may help you. Cheers, Samy --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Andreas Neumann [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have to write an article on SVG for E-Learning and give a presentation on that topic at the beginning of June in Berlin. Does anyone have any appealing examples that I don't know yet? I plan to list/demo the following examples: * Michel Hirtzlers math and filter demos * Samuel Dagans Math examples * Tirol Atlas Kids Section and animations * Kevin Lindseys examples (f.e. the example on spline curves) * Learning by Coding Examples by Thomas Meinike * http://www.hmaservice.com/svgdemo/ * Jay Nicks examples at http://www.wpsenergy.com/JayNick/default.asp Do you have any interesting SVG applications that could potentially used in E-Learning that I have not yet listed? Thanks for any suggestions, Andreas - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash
Holger, with all due respect, yours is exactly the type of response that summarizes why SVG is having such problems gaining broader desktop acceptance. That type of attitude will not help the cause at all. The whole point is that large enterprise suppliers have an identified need to deliver interactive, highly graphical dashboard functionality to their users. SVG could be an excellent choice for this (we are using it in this role). But thus far, it hasn't gained much traction on the corporate desktop. By posting the link, I had hoped to stimulate some discussion on the topic. The fact that you can't see how this relates to SVG concerns me! Without the recognition that there needs to be a few killer apps to place SVG in a prominent position on the desktop, progress will be slowed. To a lesser degree, the release of Apple's Tiger this week presents another potential opportunity lost. The desktop widgets on Tiger certainly could easily have been SVG instead of DHTML/script/images. SVG evangelism is simply not getting to the influencers who make these design decisions. It needs to. The question is, how does this happen? Mit freundlichen Grüßen, Rick From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com on behalf of Holger Will Sent: Sat 4/30/2005 5:00 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash Rick Bullotta wrote: Interesting press release. http://www.sap.com/company/press/press.epx?PressID=4519 Flash ? SAP ?? this is an SVG forum, right ? could you explain how this relates to SVG ? regards Holger [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash
Hi Rick thanks for your response. i agree with you in some points.its indeed an opportunity lost that apple decided against SVG. and its also a shame that SAP decided for flash. and yes a few killer apps could sure help promote SVG. but my point is that we cant change SAPs decission by discussing it here. SVG evangelism is simply not getting to the influencers who make these design decisions. It needs to. i couldn't agree more ! thought there are counter examples. look at IBM, Mozilla.org ,Opera, and even Adobe has proven their comitment to SVG with CS2 . The question is, how does this happen? i'm not sure, maybe when firefox 1.1 comes out, at least some of these decission makers will hear from SVG. cheers Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash
Holger Will wrote: and even Adobe has proven their comitment to SVG with CS2 . What might we be doing to help SVG at the table, when Adobe negotiates with itself? Enterprise folks here, like what Adobe is doing with document life span features (Security), Mission Impossible Mr. Phelps your .svg (.pdf;) will destruct in 7.3 seconds. Michael - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash
We agree g. A number of large chemical companies are using some of our SVG-based technology to deliver dashboard information from SAP and plant applications to users. At present, we do all of the SVG rendering on the server side due to issues surrounding availability of built-in SVG capabilities on the browser client. But nevertheless, SVG is in there! -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Peter Schonefeld Sent: Saturday, April 30, 2005 8:44 AM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Enterprise Application Use of Flash Hi Rick, SAP is a good market to work in because SAP is dug in deep in many large companies with *BIG* SAP budgets. I haven't done it before, but i understand that SAP expose their APIs to .NET and Java providers, so if someone wanted to there's no reason why they couldn't build a web based front end featuring SVG for SAP modules. I've briefly seen SAP's out-of-the-box intranet offerings (before this flash thing) and must say that i think they are a mess. So, as you are hinting, an area for great opportunity SVG wise. Thanks for the link :) Pete - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
RE: [svg-developers] Re: a problem with shit( ) Sorry is shift()
The correct expression is: if(windows == shit()) use(linux); -Original Message- From: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of solomoonor Sent: Friday, April 29, 2005 10:02 PM To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Subject: [svg-developers] Re: a problem with shit( ) Sorry is shift() The problem is solved. :) --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, solomon ah [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sorry, is shiftI made a mistake - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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[svg-developers] Re: a problem with shit( ) Sorry is shift()
I wondered who was going to be the first to break and make a joke like that ;) - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
[svg-developers] Re: Enterprise Application Use of Flash
It might be of interest to this discussion to note that Oracle generates charts and diagrams in SVG from their HTMLDB offering. There must be plenty of enterprises where Oracle is used who are adopting this SVG-based method of presenting business graphics and dashboards. The merit of SVG positively influenced decision makers at Oracle (their MapViewer application also generates SVG). --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Holger Will [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Rick thanks for your response. i agree with you in some points.its indeed an opportunity lost that apple decided against SVG. and its also a shame that SAP decided for flash. and yes a few killer apps could sure help promote SVG. but my point is that we cant change SAPs decission by discussing it here. SVG evangelism is simply not getting to the influencers who make these design decisions. It needs to. i couldn't agree more ! thought there are counter examples. look at IBM, Mozilla.org ,Opera, and even Adobe has proven their comitment to SVG with CS2 . The question is, how does this happen? i'm not sure, maybe when firefox 1.1 comes out, at least some of these decission makers will hear from SVG. cheers Holger - To unsubscribe send a message to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: [EMAIL PROTECTED] * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] a problem with shit( )
solomoonor wrote:
hello there, I am visualizing a flow of data. I have a problem with
the array that stores the data. I use shit() to keep the array size
not exceed the size. The data are dynamically added to the array. when
it reach the fixed size, if at that moment, there are more than two
data are added to the array and exceed the size, then clash.
I use
while (node.length= fixedsize)
{
node.shit();
}
I think if the node.length minus fixedsize is larger than 1, it will
loop until it becomes smaller than fixedsize. So new data will be able
to add to the array.
however, it doesnt work. anyone got any clue?
If node is an array object, the method name you're looking for is
shift(), not shit().
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