Re: [svg-developers] RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: The SVG Race: IE(1st) Chrome(2nd) FF(last)
A quick fix might be to cover the filtered object with a transparent (e.g. fill='none' stroke='none') or a mostly transparent (e.g. opacity='0.001') one. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy From: Richard Pearman rpear...@interbaun.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 10:47 AM Subject: Re: [svg-developers] RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: The SVG Race: IE(1st) Chrome(2nd) FF(last) Hi, The bug of it neither displaying nor allowing mouse events on objects with filters it can't do is still there. I know I really should do a test file and submit a proper bug report but I've got other things to do. Richard Pearman http://www.pixelpalaces.com/ The next stage in the evolution of web comics: http://www.pixelpalaces.com/dk/ South Alberta Cactus and succulent society: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=20360241008 - Original Message - From: longs...@hotmail.com To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, September 17, 2013 3:26 PM Subject: [svg-developers] RE: RE: RE: RE: Re: The SVG Race: IE(1st) Chrome(2nd) FF(last) All fuzziness was fixed in Firefox 24 which was released earlier today. Robert.
Re: [svg-developers] Re: San Diego svg group?
I'm in Sac; however, I have found a number of useful groups in Sac using meetup.com. Starting a meetup is inexpensive and those already hooked in with meetup could include some who are interested in SVG. From: jamesd jcdeeri...@yahoo.com I thought I was the only one in San Diego that knew what SVG is. No groups as far as I know. If you start one you'll probably be stuck with only me interested in attending. James --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, george geoh88@... wrote: Greetings to all. I am interested in getting started creating maps in svg. Is there a group which meets in San Diego County? - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: San Diego svg group?
From: george geo...@yahoo.com --- In svg-developers@yahoogroups.com, Jason Barnabas jtbarnabas@... wrote: I'm in Sac; however, I have found a number of useful groups in Sac using meetup.com. Starting a meetup is inexpensive and those already hooked in with meetup could include some who are interested in SVG. Jason, thanks for the tip about meetup.com. I took a quick look at the home page and it looks interesting. As soon as I have some time, I'll explore a little. George Watch out in meetup, there be pirates, arr. Actually that was how I found it, I was looking for a pirate group...you know people who like to play pirate together. :-D Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Lot of newbie questions
Excellent questions firstbert. I'm looking forward to reading some answers from the more knowledgeable on this list. Most of them I have no idea of an answer to; however, I do have some thoughts on this one: 4. copycat prevent Is there any other way to hide the sourcecode of a big lossless scaleable (and therefore printable with high resolution) artwork instead of showing it only as a filmed video? Locks are designed to keep honest people honest. There are ways to make it more difficult for the unlearned to swipe your code. You can use javascript to disable their ability to click and view the source code, but those that know can figure out how to save it to their machine and just open it in a text editor. The more knowledgeable still will just go to where it is already saved on their machine to open the file and view the code. You can save your svg in one file and use another to display it. For example in HTML you can use something like img src=filename.svg/ If your presentation page was https://www.someisp.com/presentation.htm and I wanted to look at your code badly enough to go to the trouble I'd just delete the presentation.htm and replace it with filename.svg; however, many do not know they can do this and those would be thwarted. If it's the image you're trying to protect, you can't keep me from getting it. If I have to, I'll take a screenshot, or if necessary screenshots and sew them together. Even if you disable the print screen key using js or something else I still know how to get the screenshots. On the other hand, if it's the code you are trying to protect the only way I know to do that is to convert it to something else, say the video you mentioned or a raster file format, but what's the point of that? When I have code I don't want stolen I do the js lockouts and add some remarks in the code itself: !--filename.svgcopyright 2013by Jason Barnabas Hi, I see you've decided to take a look at my code. I hope you can learn something useful here, but please do not copy this verbatim as it is copyrighted material. Have fun looking at my code and good luck in your projects. Sincerely, Jason -- There may be other things you can do to keep honest people honest and if you think your code is worth the effort then invest it and see where it takes you. Sincerely, Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: - #9654; character problem
From: ecmaszeq ecmas...@yahoo.pl yes, i've read that article even before I came to this discussion group and it did help me to get this work on my computer (both solutions work on my computer), but it didn't help me get it to work after transfering code file to remote server. Was the code rewritten in the transfer? Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Wrapping Text in SVG 2
I would love to have text wrapping, even if it's only in a box to start with. This will beat the multi-line or text on a path I have been using. If you could fill a shape with justified text that would be even more awesome. Thanks for your work and letting me put my two cents in. Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] ALL NEW HTML5 CSS3 Website
Roger F. Gay wrote: snip I tried SVG to fashion the big buttons on the first page, but there was too much variation in fonts in different browsers. After trying to fix that for a while, I gave up and went with fixed images instead; even though I am now using a google font for the home page. snip The site is: http://mopedum.se/ Hey Truphone, One of the many things I like about using actual text in SVG images is that it can be translated without human intervention. It may look funny, but if you're used to viewing translations of foreign language sites you are accustomed to the occasional bit of oddness. I like to have things just the way I want them when I do web development and have for a long time; however, the down side to that is that the viewer might not be able to have things the way they *need* them. For example, I am more than thirty years older than I was when I started as a web developer. In those 30+ years many things have changed, and I don't just mean in the technology or implementation of various aspects of web development, but also in myself. Not just the way I think and feel, but also some of my capabilities. In the old days you could always resize the text so you could read it; however, sometimes today I run across websites where the text is in 6.5 and there is nothing I can do to make it larger short of copying and pasting it into another application. Unless I really need the information and that site is the only place I can get what I need, I am unlikely to continue using it because there are better designed sites elsewhere with the same or similar information. I mention all of this only to remind you that if the differences are not too great for you to live with, perhaps a little flexibility for the sake of the viewer would be a good thing. I used to have customers who insisted on having things exactly the way they wanted them even when I would try to explain why something not quite exactly what they wanted would be better. Some of them got it and others didn't. None of the ones who didn't still have active websites or made much on the sites they had, even during the dot com boom. Jeeze, I sound like one of those old coots going on about the good old days. OTOH, I learned a lot by listening to old coots. :-D I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] SVG positioning problem
Heiner wrote:
Hopefully you can help me. I am just beginning with svg.
On http://www.netzwerk-bielefeld.de/ I am using one svg
for the background and another one as a logo. Especially
with the logo I must have done something wrong because on
the subpage Mitglieder where I already added some text
the logo jumps to a slightly different position compared
to the other sites. For I did not change anything in the
code I assume that it is the way I embedded the logo.
While the background is right in the code I linked the
logo like this:
object id=logo data=svg/logo.svg type=image/svg+xml
style=top: 35%; left: 38%; width: 21%; height:
30%;/object
I chose the %-specifications because I want the graphics
to scale with the browser window and stay in the middle...
The logo-svg itself looks like this:
snipped a great logo
Can you give me advice?
Some general advice first.
Since you seem to have a uniform background on all the pages
you could make a background SVG image in a separate file
with a name like background.svg and change the the CSS
style sheet to something like:
html, body {
height: 100%;
margin: 0;
padding: 0;
background-image:url('background.svg');
}
This would give the advantage of being able to change all
the backgrounds from a single file (one of the beauties of
CSS).
You could include the logo in your background image either
by including it as a SVG snippet or by placing the logo
elements within the overall background image.
Either way, if the logo or logo elements had an ID you
could style it's opacity with CSS.
I must be travelling,
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Re: [svg-developers] Problem with Units of SVG
From: Alireza ahmadi_...@yahoo.com Sent: Sun, March 3, 2013 6:43:47 PM hello I have an asp.net page which contains auto generated svg shapes. shape is always a rectangle which is filled in gray and 20 color lines as stripes cover a part of this rectangle. Problem: sometimes stroke width is a fractional number less than 1 according to calculations. In such cases the stripes aren't shown if units are in pixel. I changed units of lines to Cm so that fractional numbers are also rendered. This worked but we can not define unit for polygon the same way. Then I tried to define the outer svg width and height properties in Cm units so that every thing is shown in CM, then polygon and stripe lines are scaled and no more proportional. could you please help? I don't know if this will help, but here goes. Before I started working with SVG I had never used vector graphics. It took me a while to figure out how some things worked. Here's one of the things I had trouble wrapping my head around, lines have a width of 0. I mean I knew that from math and trig from school, but coming to the realization of this fact helped me to understand why SVG behaved the way it did in some cases. Lines have to have strokes to be visible and it has been my experience that SVG renders stroke-widths of less than 1 as lighter colors so they look smaller but the minimum stroke width is still 1 pixel. Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
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- Original Message From: Ganesh Jothikumar ganeshjothiku...@yahoo.com To: sanjay.chit...@gmail.com sanjay.chit...@gmail.com; cooolb...@yahoo.com cooolb...@yahoo.com; dearanj...@yahoo.com dearanj...@yahoo.com; manishdes...@yahoo.com manishdes...@yahoo.com; svg-developers@yahoogroups.com svg-developers@yahoogroups.com; dheerajs...@yahoo.com dheerajs...@yahoo.com; dili...@yahoo.com dili...@yahoo.com; dili...@netultimate.com dili...@netultimate.com Sent: Thu, January 31, 2013 11:32:32 AM Subject: [svg-developers] ... http://anfg.info/wp-content/plugins/akismet/rcccys.php?j2paegm=9hmje Ganesh Jothikumar %RND,2,10%% [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] Looked like spam to me. Anyone bother to open it? I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: SVG font-size is not correctly rendering.
Cameron McCormack wrote: Arjen: Remove the px in the font-size declaration. The size is not in pixels but in viewbox units. px and unitless values are always equivalent when they represent lengths in SVG. Good answer Cameron. Another way of looking at it is that px is the default value for dimension, assuming you are familiar with default values. Srinivas: Here, though I am setting font-size=120px, when I view the svg file in browser, it is not 120 pixel high. It seems to be using the right font size for me in Firefox (Nightly, 17). Compare it with an HTML page with 120px Arial text. Just because the font size is 120px doesn't mean that the distance from the bottom of the H to the top is 120px -- that's just the ascent of the font. Also correct. So Srinivas, if you still are not getting what you are looking for, it is because you are looking for something based on a faulty assumption. It was rendering correctly. It was not rendering they way you expected. I know because I had the same problem when I first started using SVG. In order to get an H and l's that go from top to bottom of the viewBox you defined, you'll have to use a larger value for font-size. However, when you accomplish that you'll find the bottoms of the e and the o are clipped, which I would find too annoying to put up with. You are then faced with the decision of adjusting the y value so they fit in the viewBox and going with a slightly smaller font-size value or manually adjusting the y value for the e and o so they'll be fully contained in your viewBox. If you don't want to go to that extreme, the following should do what you're looking for: text x=0 y=118 font-family=arial font-size=164 fill=blue Hello/text Or if you do, you could use this instead: text x=0 y=120 font-family=arial font-size=167 fill=blue H tspan dx=-46 dy=-2e/tspan tspan dx=-46 dy=+2ll/tspan tspan dx=-46 dy=-2o/tspan /text Depending on just how finicky you want to get or the requirements of the project. I expect my tools to fulfill my needs but in order for them to do so I have to learn their limitations. There are a couple of things I use to find exactly what I want. One is the ability to lay one element on top of another. Another is to use svg fragments inside the main svg. By using text in different colors I can adjust the size and placement until it fits exactly what I want. Another thing that might help in understanding how SVG renders is to remember that the V in SVG stands for vector. A vector is a mathematical concept and vectors have no thickness. Therefore the vector is invisible until a stroke is added and in SVG the stroke is added on both sides of the the vector. I was accustomed to raster graphics and it took me a while to gain an understanding of the differences. When I mentally connected the mathematical concept of vector to the new drawing tool I was learning it made things much easier for me to understand. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Common defs for multiple images
Hi Jan, I was just heading for bed when I saw your post. I'm wondering if you had tried simply including them in an SVG and including it in your main SVG as a SVG fragment? I don't know if it would work. :-D Maybe after some sleep I'll thing of something better. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - Original Message From: honyk j.tosov...@email.cz To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Fri, July 13, 2012 11:28:20 PM Subject: RE: [svg-developers] Common defs for multiple images Hi Jason, I have several images with common css styles, markers and symbols. To avoid manual editing all these files on any future change I'd rather make a link to this stuff. My attempt using xi:include (from XML world) seems to be not supported by common tools (browsers, rasterizers). Perhaps you'll find the following quote helpful. ... ?xml version=1.0 standalone=no? ?xml-stylesheet href=mystyle.css type=text/css? ... wow, but this solves just part of my problem. I also need to share markers (line ending arrows in my case). I could eventually reference them using an external file, but this doesn't work in the WebKit (which is a must for me). path d=M50 100h100 style=stroke: black; stroke-width: 1; marker-start: url(defs.svg#arrowStart);/ Any idea? Jan - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Common defs for multiple images
Hi Jan,
Perhaps you'll find the following quote helpful.
mystyle.css
rect {
fill: red;
stroke: blue;
stroke-width: 3
}
SVG file referencing mystyle.css
?xml version=1.0 standalone=no?
?xml-stylesheet href=mystyle.css type=text/css?
!DOCTYPE svg PUBLIC -//W3C//DTD SVG 1.1//EN
http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/1.1/DTD/svg11.dtd;
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version=1.1
width=10cm height=5cm viewBox=0 0 1000 500
rect x=200 y=100 width=600 height=300/
/svg
http://www.w3.org/TR/SVG/styling.html#StylingWithCSS
I must be travelling,
Jason
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From: honyk j.tosov...@email.cz
To: svg-developers@yahoogroups.com
Sent: Fri, July 13, 2012 1:39:20 PM
Subject: [svg-developers] Common defs for multiple images
Dear All,
I have several images with common css styles, markers and symbols. To avoid
manual editing all these files on any future change I'd rather make a link
to this stuff.
My attempt using xi:include (from XML world) seems to be not supported by
common tools (browsers, rasterizers).
svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg;
xmlns:xlink=http://www.w3.org/1999/xlink; width=100 height=100
viewBox=0 0 100 100 version=1.1
xi:include xmlns:xi=http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude; href=defs.xml/
path d=M0 50h100 class=dashed/
/svg
I could resolve these includes using the xmllint tool first, but I'd like to
avoid this extra step (and to keep two versions of each file).
Are there any more convenient alternatives?
Thanks, Jan
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Re: [svg-developers] Why so much traffic on my site?
cremnosedum rich...@pixelpalaces.com wrote: Freehostia recently suspended my web site for a day because it had too much traffic. Generally this would be good as it would indicate that a lot of people are visiting my site. However, Google Analytics shows a depressingly small number of visitors. I think the most likely cause is people viewing SVGZ files without looking at other pages. If so, this would be an issue as these site visitors are missing my advertising links etc. so this is denying me revenue. AFAIK, you can't put the code for Google Analytics on SVGZ files or rather it doesn't work (I've tried). My real question is if there's some way to monitor accessing of SVGZ files. You can put Google Analytics code on links to detect if people follow them but that's no use if people are just going straight to the SVGZ files, which I suspect is the case. For that matter, is there a way to link to somebody else's SVGZ files (not copying the files but accessing them on the other person's site) on your website and preventing people who view them from clicking on their links (or perhaps changing their links)? This would explain the high traffic and low Google Analytics stats. Am I being overly paranoid? Yes I did try asking on the Google Analytics forum about using Google Analytics on SVGZ files but haven't had a reply. A lot of people are posting things to the effect that they think Google Analytics is underating their visitors so perhaps there's some other problem. I'm also a bit puzzeled that I seem to be getting a lot of visitors from Japan although the site is in English. English is the lingua Franka of the 21st century and even for the Japanese who do not speak it there are translation pages available online. AFAIK there is no way to link to someone else's SVGZ and prevent the viewer from clicking on links therein. I could be possible to place someone else's SVG in your webpage (HTML or SVG) and prevent clicking by having your own event sniffers. My suggestion, FWIIW, would be to rename your SVGZ and replace the links on the site or to put your images in HTML documents so you can add the Analytics. YMMV. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Negative dx and gradients with color names in four browsers
For those who don't know, dx and dy are adjustments from the last print location. 1. Yes you can use negative values in dx and dy. Doing so moves a tspan element to the left or up but does nothing with text elements in Chrome. 2. I've never heard of the color names used and as you mentioned they did not work in Chrome, which is my primary browser. FireFox 12 showed solid red and solid blue bars. If I wanted gradients to be visible by everyone, I'd convert to hex or rgb. If you don't know the component colors you can do a screen shot and load it into most graphics apps and use the ol' dropper to find out. As has been mentioned, SVG is still under development and the way the standard is interpreted is somewhat different for some browsers than others. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy From: Arjen arjenmeije...@telfort.nl No browser displays to code below 100% correct. This leads to 2 questions: 1. Is a negative dx allowed? Firefox 13 / Opera 12 ignore it, Chrome 19 and IE 9 apply it. 2. Is a color name allowed in a gradient? Firefox 13 displays it correct. Opera, Chrome and IE display a black bar. Do I have to change the code or are the browser buggy? Arjen - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Preferred way of generating SVG
Sandy wrote: I am new to SVG and have a basic question for you. There are multiple ways to generate SVG... 1. Use Batik 2. Use simple document API in java 3. Use javascript document API What is the most preferred way? If you guys can share your experience I guess 3 will be the answer once I learn JavaScript a little better. I use a text editor to do most of my designs. I have also used other tools, but generally only to learn how they execute designs. By digging into how SVG is developed I am able to get exactly what I want exactly where I want it. One of the advantages to coding your own is that your images tend to have much, much smaller file sizes. By learning the behind the scenes details I was able to reduce an 18 page web presentation that took over a quarter of a MB to under 15kB in a single page that is fully interactive. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Adobe illustrator SVG reference
Lincoln wrote: I want to get to understand in detail what Adobe illustrator produces as SVG (what the schema rules are I guess). So that if I do something in illustrator I know exactly what's gonna be created. Up until now I am trying to work this out by viewing the SVG it outputs but I need more detail maybe some adobe SVG reference or can get get all this from studying the schema? If so, how to access the schema? Previous I looked at Microsoft's docx wordml and I could find lots of documentation on how Word produced its XML (wordml). Is there such docs for illustrators SVG? There is an amazing amount of information available from Adobe's web site, including links to external sources. You should be able to use help in Illustrator to connect to it. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Zoom In Out wih SVG
Dear All, I want to Implement zoom-in and out of the static map background and all sub entities(that are placed on static map background on another layer) by point-and-click on the map. Point clicked is centered as part of the zoom operation Regards, Barkha I don't know if you found the answer you were looking for, but I found: http://www.carto.net/svg/samples/viewbox.shtml I like this site and have found other useful tutorials there. I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Filter transformations
honyk j.tosov...@email.cz wrote: Hi Jason, http://bilyujezd.cz/other/fePointLight.svg (works in Firefox only) Is there a more efficient way? I don't use Opera, but this one works in Chrome. ... radialGradient RadialGradient is indeed much better approach in this case, thanks for the tip. It is much more compatible than my filter. Anyway, has anybody an idea how my filter should look like? I've noticed it is rendered with that grey background even in Inkscape and Opera. In 100% zoom it has different appearance in every browser (Chrome/FF/Opera). It behaves strangely when zoomed in/out (except Opera). What is the gauge? The only reference I found is this test, but it doesn't show exactly what I need: http://www.w3.org/Graphics/SVG/Test/20110816/harness/htmlObjectApproved/filters-light-01-f.html I got a 404 on that. If a link is enclosed like a tag tag the mail handling software usually recognizes it as a link and won't break it. I can't find your original image. If you want to repost the link for it I'll look at it again in FireFox, assuming that's what you want it to look like. In the mean time you might try to Google 3d lighting effects SVG I must be travelling, Jason tc+ ?23 ?mgt mt tne ?t20 t4++ ?t5 ?tp tg+ ?th ?to ru- ge++ 3i c++ jt- au+ ls pi+ ta+ he+ kk++ hi+ as+ va+ dr ?ith vr ne so+ zh vi da sy - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Filter transformations
honyk j.tosov...@email.cz wrote: I'd like to transform (rotate) my object with the filter applied to it, but I want to keep my filter without object's transformation. I ended up with this code. In sum, there are three rotations (back and forward) to get the desired effect: http://bilyujezd.cz/other/fePointLight.svg (works in Firefox only) Is there a more efficient way? Is there any workaround to render this effect (sphere-like object) also in Chrome or Opera? Regards, Jan I don't use Opera, but this one works in Chrome. svg xmlns=http://www.w3.org/2000/svg; version=1.1 defs radialGradient id=grad1 cx=50% cy=50% r=50% fx=50% fy=50% stop offset=0% style=stop-color:rgb(255,255,255); stop-opacity:0 / stop offset=100% style=stop-color:rgb(80,80,80); stop-opacity:1 / /radialGradient /defs line x1=115 y1=100 x2=285 y2=100 stroke=red stroke-width=2 / circle cx=200 cy=100 r=85 fill=url(#grad1) opacity=0.5 / /svg I've learned more about SVG (and JavaScript for that matter) from http://www.w3schools.com than anywhere else. - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Help? What sites blogs allow upload and viewing of animated SVG photos?
raster2vectorjerry pnzje...@gmail.com wrote: I want to start displaying animated SVG photos that are created using our new online animated SVG tool; however, it's rather hard to find sites that already permit them for upload. I figure that a collaboration of SVG developers would be the perfect answer, and maybe it might help a few other people as well. Also I intend to contact various platforms to encourage them to accept SVG as an upload and download format. Anybody have any experiences on that? I'll also make a separate post on that one later. Thank you for your help!!! You're welcome! ;-) I don't know of any sites that specifically allow SVG uploads, but I do know a trick that might let you get around those that do not. Instead of saving your image as imagename.svg you can save it as imagename.htm The browsers will recognize the .htm file as something they are supposed to handle and when they open it and see SVG markup they recognize it and just render appropriately. YMMV, Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
Re: [svg-developers] Re: Manipulating SVG in HTML using JavaScript
From: t...@ymail.com t...@ymail.com Jason jtbarnabas@... wrote: I have a project I'm working on. My goal is to display 18 images in a single HTML document in the same space. The first is just text and is put in using standard HTML. Over that I have placed a SVG image and I'd like to do drawings in it using JavaScript. I only want one server call for the entire map set. I know how to do the math to get the images and text in the SVG but I can't get the JavaScript to do the drawings. What exactly do you mean by this? You can create, modify, delete and insert nodes using the standard DOM methods. I'm not sure what's a good English reference, maybe have a look here: https://developer.mozilla.org/en/Gecko_DOM_Reference Thank you. That is just the sort of thing I need. I understand the math and doing the JavaScript is no problem. Once I figure out how DOM works I should be on track. The one that works is 18 different pages and takes up over 175kb of file space. The one that doesn't work yet will be less than 10kb. If your goal is to save space, I'd suggest using more organized SVG. Good ideas would be to use a pattern for the background grid and avoid repeated style and transformation attributes, maybe like this (it's a modified version of your Moravia diagram): snipped an excellent illustration The use element was foreign to me when I wrote the program that wrote the files for the working version of my project. Thank you very much for showing me how that could work. I can make a grid that will have slightly different placement in each map (diagram) and keep the central element the same from one to the other. Is there a way to move a group from one set of coordinates to another? For example if the grid were originally placed x=0 y=0 width=540 height=540 would it be possible to change the x and y values? Maybe I should go ahead and dig into how the DOM works. That will probably give me the answer I'm looking for. Again, thanks for the suggestions, they were golden. Jason - To unsubscribe send a message to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com -or- visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers and click edit my membership Yahoo! Groups Links * To visit your group on the web, go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/ * Your email settings: Individual Email | Traditional * To change settings online go to: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/svg-developers/join (Yahoo! ID required) * To change settings via email: svg-developers-dig...@yahoogroups.com svg-developers-fullfeatu...@yahoogroups.com * To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: svg-developers-unsubscr...@yahoogroups.com * Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to: http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/
