Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[Lee K. Seitz]

Dan Chisarick stated:

Command HQ and Global Conquest: Both.  Dan/Dani was brilliant.

Interestingly, Dan(i) is not the only classic programmer to make a 
switch:

http://atari.games.free.fr/atarixl/authors/william%20mataga_e.htm

Jay/Jamie Fenton (creator of Gorf and other things) has as well.  I
read an interview with either Dani or Jamie somewhere where she
discussed why it seemed game developers seemed to have more
inclination to have gender reassignment.  I think she attributed it
in part to creativity, but it's been a while so I may be
misremembering.

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Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[Jim Leonard]

Stephane Racle wrote:
One package I had never seen on eBay until tonight was Zorkquest II. 
I've seen all the other Infocomics about a hundred times, but never that 
one. Is it that uncommon? One would think they'd be plenty of copies 
lying around...
It is extremely uncommon, actually.  I believe the trivia entry for it 
on mobygames.com has more info, but not sure at the moment (can't get 
http working).
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Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[Dan Chisarick]

I saw what I think was a re-packaged Doriath in the last 2-3 months but 
other than that, zip.  Black Magic for the Apple was the first Apple 
game I bought off ebay.  That was 2+ years ago, and I might have only 
seen one since then.  Superb game.  Does not take long to beat.  Tower 
of Myraglen has a puzzle where you can only enter a certain passage 
(rather early in the game too) at midnight.  And that's midnight on the 
computer's system clock :)  The first day I played it it happened to be 
near midnight, and I walked right in.  The next day I couldn't figure 
out how to get in.

On Jan 6, 2004, at 8:56 PM, Brian the Fist wrote:

Not to pick nits, but the true piece of art is the game code itself.
The extras -- manual, cloth map, etc. -- are what make it collectable,
but the art is the entire package, which includes the game.  What good
is the manual if you can't play?
Perhaps I wasn't clear, I meant 'art' in reference to art collecting
mentioned earlier.  Thus I was being quite literal - I collect 'box
art'.
On the other hand, there are some games I have been searching for for
years and have not seen EVER on eBay (or anywhere else), even once, 
thus
making them even more rare than Akalabeth or Mt. Drash technically.  
And
when I come across one like this by some rare fluke, I may get it 
for as
low as $10 (maybe no one else wants it, who knows).
Like what, out of curiousity?
One that immediately comes to mind is Destiny by Software Investments
Plus.  Doriath was also incredibly difficult to find (an excellent C64
game if you've never tried it).  Got both cheap, but not until several
YEARS of searching eBay weekly.  Also Tower of Myraglen and trolls and
Tribulations.  Another C64 title, Spirit of the Stones, and Savage by
Rainbird/Microplay/Probe were also cheap but hard to find (not as hard
as the others though).  Also Talisman by Polarware.  Might and Magic I
pre-box version (was just sold as a huge manual with map and disks).
While I may have seen an odd loose disk for one or two of these, I
rarely saw one appear complete and as soon as I did, I grabbed it and 
no
one else seemed to want them

Incidentally, here's a few games I have never once seen (other than
perhaps a loose disk) on eBay, in several years of searching - no idea
why - Labyrinth of Crete (Scott Adams), Birth of the Phoenix, Black
Magic (Datasoft, US Boxed version), Coveted Mirror (Comprehend 
version),
Crypts of Terror (In-Home software, saw loose disk once..), Dungeons
Dragons and Other perils (XLent software), Fraktured Faebles (American
Eagle), Gelfling Adventure (Sierra), Palace in Thunderland (Micro Lab),
Quarterstaff (Simulated Environment Systems, before Infocom bought it),
Secret of Easter Island (Three Sigma), Seventh Sword of Mendor
(Grandslam), Sorcerer of Siva (Epyx), most Synergistic Software early
games, Spirit of Glenmore Castle (On Target), Troll's Tale (Sierra),
Zombies (Bram).  And my personal holy grail of hard to find games,
Dungeons of Despair (Wizardry Zero??).  There are very few references 
to
this latter one, though it is on the Giant Game Programmers list, and
from what I can scrounge, this may have been a Wizardry I beta demo,
released to the Apple user group community as the game was being made?
Anyone know any more on this one?  and as for the other games listed
here, have any of you ever seen any of them, ever, anywhere?  Maybe 
I've
just had bad luck?  I suppose some of these, might not exist though I
know most do.  Anyhow, these all appear to be rarer than Akalabeth and
friends.  Oh yes, there's also the Dysan 3 1/2 Infocoms, and DEC
Rainbow ones...

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Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[Stephane Racle]

Interesting. Perhaps very few copies were published since it was the
last of the four Infocomics and the other ones had relatively little
success? 

Yes, I was referring to the $19.99 "Buy It Now". That Deadline grey is
interesting I just saw a shrinkwrapped Deadline folio go for $29.99
(although that was a "Buy It Now" as well). Come to think of it though,
Deadline folios seem to come up on eBay fairly regularly - and a good
number of them are still in the shrink. In fact, I think I've seen more
Deadline folios than Deadline greys over the last few years.

I agree with you on actual vs perceived value. Actually, until last
year, I didn't particularly care for Infocomics, which I perceived as
relatively uninteresting computer comic book experiments. Only after
finding a three-pack of them as part of a larger bundle of software did
I decide I should try to get the last one. On the other hand, Suspended
and Starcross were no brainers... and I suspect they are on many
software collectors' lists.

Marco Thorek wrote:

  Stephane Racle schrieb:
  
  
One package I had never seen on eBay until tonight was Zorkquest II.
I've seen all the other Infocomics about a hundred times, but never that
one. Is it that uncommon? One would think they'd be plenty of copies
lying around...

  
  
It indeed is that uncommon. Much more so than a Starcross saucer,
Suspended mask or sealed Fooblitzky. I have been on ebay now for five
years and only saw it once and that one was even sealed. 

I managed to win that auction for a mere $50, as there was only one
other serious bidder. And the current auction you probably talked about
ended with $19.99 via "Buy it now." On the other hand I was outbid
several times on a number of Fooblitzkys, which do turn up every other
month.

Maybe we have to differentiate between actual value, which considers
factors such as rarity and item condition, and perceived value.

Looking through ebay's completed auctions I just saw a Deadline grey go
for $76... 

Marco

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Re: [SWCollect] A new member to the Origin Museum Family!

[Stefan Lindblom]

Congratulations Joe!

Always nice to see such a piece end up in good 
hands. But I realize I really need to get myself that kind of understanding wife 
;)


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Origin 
  Museum 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 3:12 
  AM
  Subject: [SWCollect] A new member to the 
  Origin Museum Family!
  Hi guys!

Yeah...it was ME that won the Drash cassette--my wife, actually!  It's my 
birthday present!

Yes, it was expensive, but I've been wanting it for YEARS!  :)

Edward, Tom--hope ya don't mind a guy like me as a member of the 'DRASH 
CLUB'...If you DO mind, I'll just start acting like Rodney Dangerfield from 
Caddyshack!  (Hey--who stepped on the DUCK?!) ;)

And to Hugh--You'll need to come up with a new name for me!  :)
(Hugh usually refers to me as the Akalabeth-Owning-Stinking Bastard--or A.O.S.B 
for short!)

I'll get it by Friday--pics to follow!

Joe Garrity
(C.O.T.O.M.)


 

Re: [SWCollect] A new member to the Origin Museum Family!

[hughfalk]

Joe, I'd like to lodge a formal protest. Drash is NOT an Origin product and should not be in your museum. I also think thatowning a personal copy is a conflict of interest. Expect a letter from the Federal Museum Regulation Board. In the meantime, I suggest you tell the seller to send the item to theFMRB Escrow Facilities in San Diego (I'll look up the address and send it to you) for safe keeping. Don't make me come up with a new acronym for you!

Hugh-Original Message- From: Origin Museum <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 7, 2004 6:12 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [SWCollect] A new member to the Origin Museum Family! Hi guys!

Yeah...it was ME that won the Drash cassette--my wife, actually!  It's my 
birthday present!

Yes, it was expensive, but I've been wanting it for YEARS!  :)

Edward, Tom--hope ya don't mind a guy like me as a member of the 'DRASH 
CLUB'...If you DO mind, I'll just start acting like Rodney Dangerfield from 
Caddyshack!  (Hey--who stepped on the DUCK?!) ;)

And to Hugh--You'll need to come up with a new name for me!  :)
(Hugh usually refers to me as the Akalabeth-Owning-Stinking Bastard--or A.O.S.B 
for short!)

I'll get it by Friday--pics to follow!

Joe Garrity
(C.O.T.O.M.)



 

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Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[AvatarTom]

In a message dated 01/07/2004 7:47:08 PM Central Standard Time, [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:


My mistake, I meant I take these are the folio ones. I should probably go and sleep now before I get a label of stupidity here :)


Well there are normal grey box and normal (big) folio releases Stefan. But for C64 there are also "small" folder and "large" folder releases specific to the C64. The "large" C64 folders are pretty rare (mostly white I think), the small grey/blue ones are common.

Tom
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Re: [SWCollect] A new member to the Origin Museum Family!

[B.L.]

Congrats! That was one hellava birthday 
gift!

Brad
http://www.computergamecollector.com


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Origin 
  Museum 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 9:12 
  PM
  Subject: [SWCollect] A new member to the 
  Origin Museum Family!
  Hi guys!

Yeah...it was ME that won the Drash cassette--my wife, actually!  It's my 
birthday present!

Yes, it was expensive, but I've been wanting it for YEARS!  :)

Edward, Tom--hope ya don't mind a guy like me as a member of the 'DRASH 
CLUB'...If you DO mind, I'll just start acting like Rodney Dangerfield from 
Caddyshack!  (Hey--who stepped on the DUCK?!) ;)

And to Hugh--You'll need to come up with a new name for me!  :)
(Hugh usually refers to me as the Akalabeth-Owning-Stinking Bastard--or A.O.S.B 
for short!)

I'll get it by Friday--pics to follow!

Joe Garrity
(C.O.T.O.M.)


 

Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[hughfalk]

Those are neither folio nor grey. What you have are the Commodore re-issues of Infocom games. Unfortunately these are probably the most commonly available shrink-wrapped Infocom's you can find :-(

Hugh-Original Message- From: Stefan Lindblom <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 7, 2004 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value 


My mistake, I meant I take these are the folio ones. I should probably go and sleep now before I get a label of stupidity here :)

/Stefan

- Original Message - 
From: Stefan Lindblom 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:42 AM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

I thought I recalled having seen one of these mentioned, although I dont know which one. I picked up a bunch of games half a year ago, and among them were the C-64 version of Deadline. I am a bit noob though since I cant tell whether or not this is a folio or "grey". It is flat, like a fold out thing. Sounds like a folio, right? On the front it is blue at the top, white in the middle with the Deadline documentary evidence picture, and grey/silver with the Commodore logo at the bottom. The whole backside is the same grey/silver color as the front bottom. I also found suspended with the pretty much identical flat box. Both are sealed so I cant check any further. I take it these are the grey ones and therefore of pretty low interest?

/Stefan


- Original Message - 
From: Stephane Racle 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:30 AM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value
Interesting. Perhaps very few copies were published since it was the last of the four Infocomics and the other ones had relatively little success? Yes, I was referring to the $19.99 "Buy It Now". That Deadline grey is interesting I just saw a shrinkwrapped Deadline folio go for $29.99 (although that was a "Buy It Now" as well). Come to think of it though, Deadline folios seem to come up on eBay fairly regularly - and a good number of them are still in the shrink. In fact, I think I've seen more Deadline folios than Deadline greys over the last few years.I agree with you on actual vs perceived value. Actually, until last year, I didn't particularly care for Infocomics, which I perceived as relatively uninteresting computer comic book experiments. Only after finding a three-pack of them as part of a larger bundle of software did I decide I should try to get the last one. On the other hand, Suspended and Starcross were no brainers... and I suspect they are on many software collectors' lists.Marco Thorek wrote:
Stephane Racle schrieb:
  
One package I had never seen on eBay until tonight was Zorkquest II.
I've seen all the other Infocomics about a hundred times, but never that
one. Is it that uncommon? One would think they'd be plenty of copies
lying around...

It indeed is that uncommon. Much more so than a Starcross saucer,
Suspended mask or sealed Fooblitzky. I have been on ebay now for five
years and only saw it once and that one was even sealed. 

I managed to win that auction for a mere $50, as there was only one
other serious bidder. And the current auction you probably talked about
ended with $19.99 via "Buy it now." On the other hand I was outbid
several times on a number of Fooblitzkys, which do turn up every other
month.

Maybe we have to differentiate between actual value, which considers
factors such as rarity and item condition, and perceived value.

Looking through ebay's completed auctions I just saw a Deadline grey go
for $76... 

Marco

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Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value

[Stefan Lindblom]

Hmm yeah, that sounds exactly what it looks like.. 
some kind of 80's "budget" edition or something. Oh well, thanks Tom and Hugh 
for letting me know that. Theamount ofknowledge on this mailinglist 
is vast indeed :)

  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 4:35 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash 
  cassette and market value
  
  Those are neither folio nor grey. What you have are the Commodore 
  re-issues of Infocom games. Unfortunately these are probably the most 
  commonly available shrink-wrapped Infocom's you can find :-(
  
  Hugh-Original Message- From: Stefan Lindblom 
  <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>Sent: Jan 7, 2004 5:46 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: 
  Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash cassette and market value 
  
  
  
  My mistake, I meant I take these are the folio 
  ones. I should probably go and sleep now before I get a label of stupidity 
  here :)
  
  /Stefan
  
- Original Message - 
From: 
Stefan Lindblom 
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:42 
AM
Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash 
cassette and market value

I thought I recalled having seen one of these 
mentioned, although I dont know which one. I picked up a bunch of games half 
a year ago, and among them were the C-64 version of Deadline. I am a bit 
noob though since I cant tell whether or not this is a folio or "grey". It 
is flat, like a fold out thing. Sounds like a folio, right? On the front it 
is blue at the top, white in the middle with the Deadline documentary 
evidence picture, and grey/silver with the Commodore logo at the bottom. The 
whole backside is the same grey/silver color as the front bottom. I also 
found suspended with the pretty much identical flat box. Both are sealed so 
I cant check any further. I take it these are the grey ones and therefore of 
pretty low interest?

/Stefan


  - Original Message - 
  From: 
  Stephane Racle 
  To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 
  Sent: Thursday, January 08, 2004 2:30 
  AM
  Subject: Re: [SWCollect] Mt. Drash 
  cassette and market value
  Interesting. Perhaps very few copies were published since 
  it was the last of the four Infocomics and the other ones had relatively 
  little success? Yes, I was referring to the $19.99 "Buy It Now". 
  That Deadline grey is interesting I just saw a shrinkwrapped Deadline 
  folio go for $29.99 (although that was a "Buy It Now" as well). Come to 
  think of it though, Deadline folios seem to come up on eBay fairly 
  regularly - and a good number of them are still in the shrink. In fact, I 
  think I've seen more Deadline folios than Deadline greys over the last few 
  years.I agree with you on actual vs perceived value. Actually, 
  until last year, I didn't particularly care for Infocomics, which I 
  perceived as relatively uninteresting computer comic book experiments. 
  Only after finding a three-pack of them as part of a larger bundle of 
  software did I decide I should try to get the last one. On the other hand, 
  Suspended and Starcross were no brainers... and I suspect they are on many 
  software collectors' lists.Marco Thorek wrote:
  Stephane Racle schrieb:
  
One package I had never seen on eBay until tonight was Zorkquest II.
I've seen all the other Infocomics about a hundred times, but never that
one. Is it that uncommon? One would think they'd be plenty of copies
lying around...

It indeed is that uncommon. Much more so than a Starcross saucer,
Suspended mask or sealed Fooblitzky. I have been on ebay now for five
years and only saw it once and that one was even sealed. 

I managed to win that auction for a mere $50, as there was only one
other serious bidder. And the current auction you probably talked about
ended with $19.99 via "Buy it now." On the other hand I was outbid
several times on a number of Fooblitzkys, which do turn up every other
month.

Maybe we have to differentiate between actual value, which considers
factors such as rarity and item condition, and perceived value.

Looking through ebay's completed auctions I just saw a Deadline grey go
for $76... 

Marco

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