[Tagging] Tagging post-office in Sweden
How should Postoffice be tagged in Sweden. The Postoffices has disapperared and is instead a small part of another shop (or Petrol station etc). Should another node be created which said postoffice or should the shop-node have another key-value telling this. /LeSve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging post-office in Sweden
LeSve wrote, On 2010-08-28 09:46: How should Postoffice be tagged in Sweden. The Postoffices has disapperared and is instead a small part of another shop (or Petrol station etc). Should another node be created which said postoffice or should the shop-node have another key-value telling this. More explanation. This is not called post-office. They called it postombud (post office agent in English) /LeSve ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)
On 28 August 2010 04:30, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.netalan_mintz%2b...@earthlink.net wrote: Is there a plan to convert the existing data? I thought about that, but I'm not sure how to proceed. Any advice is welcome! I could, of course, just download all data tagged with the old schema using XAPI and update it. More time consuming, but polite, would be to contact all the authors of that data to tell them about the new schema. Tom -- http://tom.acrewoods.net http://twitter.com/tom_chance ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna
2010/8/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 27 August 2010 23:34, Peter Körner osm-li...@mazdermind.de wrote: why exactly do you want to convert a widely used tag (amenity=sauna, ~1000 uses) I wouldn't exactly say 1000 uses is widely used... A handful of mappers, or perhaps even a single mapper, is capable of doing more than that... I disagree with you. Have a look at amenity in the planet (tagwatch): http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Planet/En/ignored_amenity.html more than 1000 is significant. I can hardly imagine a single mapper (or even a small group) mapping more than 1000 saunas, but this is maybe due to the area I'm living in, where there are few of them. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] radio and/or tv studio?
2010/8/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 28 August 2010 03:31, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net wrote: i just found amenity=studio which will do, although i still thing office=broadcasting might be helpful to identify the business office side. If you want to be picky, count the rooms... Is there more offices or more studios in the building? -1, that's silly. At least look at the area, the number is not important (for tv broadcasting for instance a studio will be much bigger than several offices). Still I disagree. Offices are significant for businesses where the main activity is office work, but you will find offices almost everywhere: in hotels, in factories, at petrol stations, in museums, in shops/supermarkets, in schools and universities, ... cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] radio and/or tv studio?
On 28 August 2010 19:02, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: you will find offices almost everywhere: in hotels, in factories, at petrol stations, in museums, in shops/supermarkets, in schools and universities, ... You just proved my point, the number of offices is in the minority, so obviously that isn't the primary use. If there is 1 or 2 studios in a 2 story building and 100s of offices it's more office space than anything else... ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna
On 28 August 2010 18:58, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I can hardly imagine a single mapper (or even a small group) mapping more than 1000 saunas, but this is maybe due to the area I'm living in, where there are few of them. If someone had a fetish for saunas and had a GPX file full of locations prior to finding out about OSM it wouldn't be hard for one person to add that many. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] RFC: generator:* (for power=generator features)
At 2010-08-28 01:49, Tom Chance wrote: On 28 August 2010 04:30, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Is there a plan to convert the existing data? I thought about that, but I'm not sure how to proceed. Any advice is welcome! I could, of course, just download all data tagged with the old schema using XAPI and update it. More time consuming, but polite, would be to contact all the authors of that data to tell them about the new schema. IMO, when you're dealing with just changing a key name or value with a clear 1:1 map from old to new, it makes sense to change the data yourself - pretty straightforward using XAPI. If there is a convenient way to do it (is there?), alerting the creators/editors of those features to the tagging scheme change would be good, too, since they are likely to be taggers of those feature types in the future. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] sidewalks
2010/8/28 Anthony o...@inbox.org: On Fri, Aug 27, 2010 at 10:56 AM, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: if there is no footway, it shouldn't be tagged as such. Agreed. But what is a footway? The dictionary says it's a narrow way or path for pedestrians. I don't see anything about grass being disqualified. The definition you quoted said: way or path. In the aerial images posted here there was neither of them. If was just grass. No way. You can actually see informal footways/paths quite well in aerial imagery. If they are there and you have good resolution images. Usually the grass is aside then, because grass doesn't grow where people (or animals) walk. It disappears even if it was there before. cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Non Proposed Features
2010/8/28 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de: How can we improve this process? Didn't you already ask this on one of the wiki pages? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] pool/billiards hall?
I agree with using amenity=pub/bar/whatever, sports=pool. But doing a strict classification would be often hard. In my town ([ot] thanks, population-based classification of urban centres, for not calling it a city! [/ot]) there's a bowling hall, with arcade-style video games, pool and table-tennis tables; would this be considered a pool hall? an arcade? a bowling? We usually say let's go to the bowling even if we rarely actually play bowling, it's more like let's go to the bowling to play pool. Also, there are a couple of bars with pool tables; you'd sometime want to go there not because of the bar itself but to play pool. The same applies to those bars with video-poker machines, or (more and more rare these days) arcade videogames; if people go there mainly because of the games, or because there's a karaoke night, what should it be filed under? Regards, Simone ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] radio and/or tv studio?
2010/8/27 Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net: i just found amenity=studio which will do, although i still thing office=broadcasting might be helpful to identify the business office side. Why not amenity=studio, studio=broadcasting, broadcasting=TV? richard Ciao, Simone ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Sauna
2010/8/28 John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com: On 28 August 2010 18:58, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer dieterdre...@gmail.com wrote: I can hardly imagine a single mapper (or even a small group) mapping more than 1000 saunas, but this is maybe due to the area I'm living in, where there are few of them. If someone had a fetish for saunas and had a GPX file full of locations prior to finding out about OSM it wouldn't be hard for one person to add that many. sure. Who is that? cheers, Martin ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Non Proposed Features
Yes in some way but I pointed on thinks that are in my opinion the problem. There might be others that I don't see, right? You write in the wiki that it is unable to repair it and spot on a working group. I think this will be a nice idea even if it might result in a discussion if this centralisation might gain to much power even if they are only janitors. Should this group be part of the foundation? What tools will they need? Can we modify the wiki to be a nicer tool? Matthias ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] sidewalks
On 28/08/2010 10:51, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: You can actually see informal footways/paths quite well in aerial imagery. If they are there and you have good resolution images. Usually the grass is aside then, because grass doesn't grow where people (or animals) walk. It disappears even if it was there before. Your eyesight must be better than mine - often where I walk paths are marked by a footpath sign or just a stone squeezer stile at either side of a field. Any marks left by walkers would get obliterated by cows going back and forth twice a day. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] Tagging post-office in Sweden
On 28 August 2010 10:16, just.st...@lesve.org wrote: LeSve wrote, On 2010-08-28 09:46: How should Postoffice be tagged in Sweden. The Postoffices has disapperared and is instead a small part of another shop (or Petrol station etc). Should another node be created which said postoffice or should the shop-node have another key-value telling this. More explanation. This is not called post-office. They called it postombud (post office agent in English) I tag them as two different nodes. One node with amenity=post_office and another with e.g. shop=convenience. Not sure if the question have a definitive answer, but for me at least it makes more sense with two nodes. /Markus ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
Re: [Tagging] sidewalks
In other words, you are saving that the ground shows many paths, made by both humans and cows. If the only place where the ground was trodden down enough to be bare or sparse were along the footpath, you would have the situation that M∡rtin described. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [Tagging] sidewalks From :mailto:li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk Date :Sat Aug 28 05:47:12 America/Chicago 2010 On 28/08/2010 10:51, M∡rtin Koppenhoefer wrote: You can actually see informal footways/paths quite well in aerial imagery. If they are there and you have good resolution images. Usually the grass is aside then, because grass doesn't grow where people (or animals) walk. It disappears even if it was there before. Your eyesight must be better than mine - often where I walk paths are marked by a footpath sign or just a stone squeezer stile at either side of a field. Any marks left by walkers would get obliterated by cows going back and forth twice a day. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] natural protection tag new proposal comments
Hi, I made a new proposal of natural_protection tag (section new proposal of http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Proposed_features/Key:natural_protection). Can you comment it? I'm still a newbee so before making a definitive proposed page, I want to know your opinion. Thanks in advance, Xan. ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
[Tagging] How do you map handicapped parking? (and other questions)
There doesn't seem to be a tag on the wiki for either handicapped parking spots in a larger lot or a dedicated handicapped lot. Also a few more minor questions (all from the local park: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=28.407939lon=-81.489194zoom=18layers=M): Is there a better way to map bleachers than amenity=bench bench=bleachers? Is building=pavilion correct for a roof with no walls? Is there a way to distinguish an older gnarly tree suitable for climbing from a recently-planted tree? ___ Tagging mailing list Tagging@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/tagging
