[Tagging] Penstock vs aqueduct

2013-06-19 Thread François Lacombe
Hi,

I'm currently wondering how can I map make the difference between pentocks
and simpler water aqueducts.

A penstock is used in hydro power plant to feed turbines with pressurized
water, it's shielded and sometimes in tunnels to ease works around it.

Instead of a an aqueduct which is not only used in hydro power plants and
generaly builded to bring water from source to consumption.

Hydro power plants may use both since water can be catch from different
valleys and concentrated through aqueducts to a shaft where we can find
penstocks above turbines.
Aqueducts are often totally flooded with water and no one could get inside
when it's in operation.

It would be great to make that difference on maps.

Penstocks are pipes, so I'm tempted to use man_made=pipeline + type=water
but what best describe an aqueduct ?

A proposal can be found on wiki but it's only for historical aqueducts.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Aqueduct

The link between pentsocks and aqueducts is called a surge tank and it
absorbes large amount of water when operator opens/closes valves.
I remember we had talk about it on that list last April.

And think about NY City Water tunnel #3 which is currently in construction.
For me it's more an aquduct than a penstock.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_York_City_Water_Tunnel_No._3

Cheers.


*François Lacombe*

francois dot lacombe At telecom-bretagne dot eu
http://www.infos-reseaux.com
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Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread René Kirchhoff
How do we go from here?
Can someone write a summary?
Could someone please state the results in the wiki?
Thank you.

Wie geht es nun weiter?
Kann jemand eine Zusammenfassung schreiben?
Könnte bitte jemand die Ergebnisse im Wiki dokumentieren?
Vielen Dank.

Gruß René
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Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 20.06.2013 00:22, René Kirchhoff wrote:

Could someone please state the results in the wiki?


I have already un-deprecated the tag on the wiki two weeks ago.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Tagging] When was landuse=reservoir deprecated ?

2013-06-19 Thread Martin Koppenhoefer
2013/6/20 Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org

 Hi,


 On 20.06.2013 00:22, René Kirchhoff wrote:

 Could someone please state the results in the wiki?


 I have already un-deprecated the tag on the wiki two weeks ago.



I had shortly after set the tag status from abandoned to approved, but
someone told me it should better be de-facto (if this is a common status
I'd agree, indeed I thought the tag was approved by active use regardless
of votings) and I was told that the deprecation was (besides other stuff)
decided here: Proposed features/Water
detailshttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Water_details
and that *natural=water + water=reservoir *should be use instead (btw.:
don't agree, landuse and physical characteristics are orthogonal
properties).

cheers,
Martin
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