[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Privacy

[Illia Marchenko]

Property key privacy=stalls/partitions/communal_room/no that indicates
whether shower or other feature offers a privacy or not.
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Proposed_features/Privacy
Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
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Re: [Tagging] Is tracktype=grade1 surface=compacted a valid combination?

[stevea]

Please allow me to add that what I'll call grade1 which ISN'T truly paved (or 
once was), but is essentially surface=compacted, is a distinctly different kind 
of road when it is wet, muddy or actively raining (at least for such 
tracks/roads around here).  These become pretty slick and even "iffy" to drive 
upon (especially with > about 3% or 4% slope) with a 2WD automobile when it is 
raining in many cases.  For example, while I could see driving perhaps as fast 
as 50 km/hr on such a track/road in dry weather (and daylight), if it is 
raining, I might reduce this to as little as 15 km/hr — or even 10 — simply for 
safety and maneuverability reasons.

Again, this is more true on surface=compacted, which because it isn't truly 
"sealed" or paved, does get quite slick and more difficult to travel upon when 
muddy / wet.

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Re: [Tagging] Is tracktype=grade1 surface=compacted a valid combination?

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

sent from a phone

> On 24 Sep 2022, at 20:22, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  wrote:
> 
> "May be applicable to heavily degraded and crumbled roads which was paved in 
> past."


according to what I imagine by this description it could be grade3 as well, 
“paved in the past”

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Payment denominations

[Michael Brandtner]

Hi,

I have written a proposal for adding information about the coins and 
banknotes that are accepted at a feature, especially vending machines, 
but in some cases also amenities and shops. I decided to make this an 
addition to the payment:*=* namespace and use the value format of the 
charge=* tag to integrate this as seamless as possible into existing 
tagging practices. You can find more information in the proposal:


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Payment_denominations

Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

KInd regards,
Michael
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Can I get email notifications
- about new topics in particular tag,
- without getting other email notifications
- with notifications directed to specific email, not one used for OSM 
registartion
?

Sep 24, 2022, 20:42 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> From your settings, you can suscribe to  notiifcations about a particular 
> tag, here this would be  'tagging'.
> A 'Tagging' category (that you can also  suscribe too) could  be 
> requested to the admins.
>
> Yves
>
> On 24.09.22 20:04, Mateusz Konieczny  via Tagging wrote:
>
>> My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
>> to avoid missing RFC/vote.
>>
>> Right now it is working for me and I am unwillingto lose it.
>>
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by >> y...@mailbox.org>> :
>>
>>> There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
>>> Yves 
>>>
>>> Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, MateuszKonieczny via 
>>> Tagging >>>  
>>> >>
 How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

 Is it about 
 "Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my  @username is 
 mentioned,
 or when there is new activity in my watched  categories, tags 
 or topics"
 option in account settings?

 Because that seems more spammy than tagging  mailing list.

 What worse, I cannot assign a separate email  account from
 email assigned to my OSM account 
 (I have a separate account just for mailing  lists due to 
 volume)

 I see there "Email can be updated from  authentication 
 provider."
 without option to set a different one for  Discourse 
 notifications.

 Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by  tagging@openstreetmap.org :

> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics withthat 
> tag. On the top right, you see a bell icon. Thereyou can 
> select to get emails.
>
> That is why I proposed to use the tag"wiki-proposal" on 
> all proposals (RFC) and votes. 
>
> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed.Click on a tag and 
> add .rss to the website URL like: 
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>
> Greetings,
> Vincent
>
>
>
> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van > 
> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co> :
>
>> (1)
>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to  get 
>> notifications via email, without getting
>> notified about for example postings in  talk-de subforum?
>>
>> "Using simple rss or email  notifications, people can 
>> subscribe to new proposals
>> on the community." is mentioned but it  is not clear how 
>> it can be done
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by >> tagging@openstreetmap.org>> :
>>
>>> Require proposal announcements to be made on thenew 
>>> forum instead of the mailing list
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on itsWiki Talk page.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[yvecai via Tagging]

From your settings, you can suscribe to notiifcations about a 
particular tag, here this would be 'tagging'.
A 'Tagging' category (that you can also suscribe too) could  be 
requested to the admins.


Yves

On 24.09.22 20:04, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:

My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
to avoid missing RFC/vote.

Right now it is working for me and I am unwilling to lose it.


Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by y...@mailbox.org:

There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
Yves

Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via
Tagging  a écrit :

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags
or topics"
option in account settings?

Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.

What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that
tag. On the top right, you see a bell icon. There you can
select to get emails.

That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on
all proposals (RFC) and votes.

Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and
add .rss to the website URL like:
https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss

Greetings,
Vincent



24 sep. 2022 10:51 van
tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

(1)
Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get
notifications via email, without getting
notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

"Using simple rss or email notifications, people can
subscribe to new proposals
on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear
how it can be done

Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

Require proposal announcements to be made on the
new forum instead of the mailing list


https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

Greetings,

Vincent






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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Robin Burek]

Am 24.09.2022 um 19:19 schrieb Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging:

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
option in account settings?
Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.


Well, Discourse primarily informs you in the "activity bar" (behind your
profile icon on the top right).
If you follow a topic/category/tag, then each new post will also appear
there in the overview.
What you can enable now is that these "push notifications" will be sent
to you directly via mail.
In fact, this is not much spammier than the default.



What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

This would be something that would have to be passed on to the
appropriate places or you would just have to set up forwarding
rules. I think that is already a special request.

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Re: [Tagging] Is tracktype=grade1 surface=compacted a valid combination?

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

Sep 13, 2022, 08:55 by m...@jeroenhoek.nl:

> On 12-09-2022 22:11, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging wrote:
>
>> It seems to be changed on Wiki in
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Template:Map_Features:tracktype=1627780=1448864
>>  
>> 
>> (maybe previous version was wrong!) but iD presets still have
>> "Solid: paved or heavily compacted hardcore surface"
>>
>
> That edit on the wiki seems good to me. grade1 can still be something other 
> than paved, but not usually.
>
> Personally, grade1 implies paved for me mapping in a temperate climate, but I 
> can imagine that you can get to grade1 without a paved surface in arid 
> climates. The wiki definition leaves room for this by prefacing it with 
> 'Usually'.
>
Do you have example photo/link to such location?
Which surface=* value would be used in such case?

> My only nuance here would be that badly paved tracks can fall into grade2 as 
> well.
>
I added 
"May be applicable to heavily degraded and crumbled roads which was paved in 
past."
on https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Template:Map_Features:tracktype to grade2
description
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

My question was about getting notifications of new topics -
to avoid missing RFC/vote.

Right now it is working for me and I am unwilling to lose it.


Sep 24, 2022, 19:48 by y...@mailbox.org:

> There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
> Yves 
>
> Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  a écrit :
>
>> How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?
>>
>> Is it about 
>> "Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
>> or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
>> option in account settings?
>>
>> Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.
>>
>> What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
>> email assigned to my OSM account 
>> (I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)
>>
>> I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
>> without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>
>>> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
>>> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>>>
>>> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals 
>>> (RFC) and votes. 
>>>
>>> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
>>> website URL like: 
>>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van 
>>> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>>>
 (1)
 Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, 
 without getting
 notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

 "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
 proposals
 on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done

 Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
> mailing list
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>


>>>
>>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Yves via Tagging]

There is a 'follow' drop down at the end of a topic.
Yves 

Le 24 septembre 2022 19:19:17 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
 a écrit :
>How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?
>
>Is it about 
>"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
>or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
>option in account settings?
>
>Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.
>
>What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
>email assigned to my OSM account 
>(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)
>
>I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
>without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.
>
>Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
>> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>>
>> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
>> and votes. 
>>
>> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
>> website URL like: 
>> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>>
>> Greetings,
>> Vincent
>>
>>
>>
>> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van 
>> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>>
>>> (1)
>>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
>>> getting
>>> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>>>
>>> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
>>> proposals
>>> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>>>
>>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>>
 Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
 mailing list

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

 Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

 Greetings,

 Vincent

>>>
>>>
>>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

How can I do "There you can select to get emails"?

Is it about 
"Email me when I am quoted, replied to, my @username is mentioned,
or when there is new activity in my watched categories, tags or topics"
option in account settings?

Because that seems more spammy than tagging mailing list.

What worse, I cannot assign a separate email account from
email assigned to my OSM account 
(I have a separate account just for mailing lists due to volume)

I see there "Email can be updated from authentication provider."
without option to set a different one for Discourse notifications.

Sep 24, 2022, 14:32 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top 
> right, you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.
>
> That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
> and votes. 
>
> Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
> website URL like: 
> https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss
>
> Greetings,
> Vincent
>
>
>
> 24 sep. 2022 10:51 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>
>> (1)
>> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
>> getting
>> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>>
>> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
>> proposals
>> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>>
>> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>>
>>> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
>>> mailing list
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>>
>>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>>
>>> Greetings,
>>>
>>> Vincent
>>>
>>
>>
>
>

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Re: [Tagging] addr:town

[Martin Koppenhoefer]

Am Sa., 24. Sept. 2022 um 13:38 Uhr schrieb Andrew Hain <
andrewhain...@hotmail.co.uk>:

> The key addr:town is currently documented as de facto [
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q1070][
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:town]. However
> investigations in the UK have found it to generally be a mistake for
> addr:city or addr:suburb[
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom#Address_tags].
> Should it be deprecated?
> addr:town 
> The town of the object that forms part of the address.
> wiki.openstreetmap.org
>

In the areas I know this tag should not be used, but addresses can be very
different globally. Looking at taginfo, this seems to be a regional thing
(some mix ups with addr:city aside):
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Atown#map

Still looking at taginfo, I see on 35% in combination with addr:city, or
41k items, it's these that may indicate there could be something behind it,
intention rather than confusion ;-)
https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/addr%3Atown#combinations
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - highway=scramble

[Alan Mackie]

On Fri, 23 Sept 2022, 20:58 Asa Hundert,  wrote:

> Thank you Volker for linking cai_scale. During my research on the
> subject, I learned, that the SAC itself is using its scales quite like
> the CAI, as a means to note hikers about requirements of what in OSM
> are called "routes", something, which starts at a POI and has a POI as
> its goal, where the most demanding section determines overall grade.
>
> It is just in openstreetmap, where the key derived from the SAC hiking
> scale could be used to create climbing-topo-like mappings, where
> difficulty over a route from a hut to a summit e.g. could change from
> easy to difficult back to easy and so on, in 5m increments, by
> splitting the route in several sections, in OSM called "ways", that
> could get separately graded.
>
> Such a practice is not widely used, mostly mappers that laid the
> groundwork did follow the SAC spirit, and drew a single way through
> from start to goal. Yet, I have seen such topo-like mappings too.
> Looking at the crossing of Monte Pirio, it is mapped as several ways
> all tagged demanding_mountain_hiking. Other pictures on the web show
> grade mountain_hiking there, so in my eyes, this is not a
> climbing-topo-like application of sac_scale, not in 5m sections, such
> I only observed on MTB grading, but at least in 100m sections, where
> the splits sometimes appear at questionable waypoints.
>
> I conceived of the proposed tag during RfC on "sport=mountaineering"
> on the community forum, where it was suggested to go for "highway=*"
> instead. A switch that I happily took part in. Feedback has been quite
> positive indeed. This is the trending base.
>
> Switching base key had other implications. For me, "highway=scramble"
> immediately became the "highway=unclassified" of the path multiverse.
> Lots of comments later, I must conclude, that for many though, it is
> perceived more a cousin of "highway=steps". I guess, a proposal that
> wants to win the voting and the mapping communities approval has to
> cater for the lazy and the busy mappers alike and take care, that it
> supports neither in tagging wars. WDT?
>

To me this sounds worse than steps because for most people use of handrails
is optional for steps, but for scramble the use of hands seems to be
expected. I would quite like these to be moved out of path to some other
value as I think this is a stronger difference than we already see for
other highway types.

As for extent I think we do as we do for other changes of this type
restrain it to places where the steps/ scramble/ surface type actually is.
Routers can display the "worst" with relative ease while map makers may
have to do a lot more processing.

I know that is more work than 'just' styling and throwing out tiles but I
don't think it is practical or desirable for us to maintain generalisation
information directly in the map data when we don't know if it wil be seen
as a small scale overview or as a highly detailed site plan. Different
consumers may choose completely different presentations even without
considering multiple uses. Some may choose to mark the whole way sequence
as difficult all the way back to the next branch point, other might choose
to render difficult passages as icons when they get too short to jump out
at someone with a print map.

If the (physical) route maintainer publishes overall difficulties then I
think this can be stored on the route independently to the specification
the individual way sections.

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[Martin Machyna]

Could one just copy the whole proposal text from the wiki into the forum
vote post, or is there some sort of limitation to that?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 2:30 PM Cartographer10 via Tagging <
tagging@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Thanks for the feedback, good points.
>
> 1) That people don't reply to a post doesn't mean they don't have an
> opinion. The new forum for example allows to give emoticon reactions. This
> means that people don't need to comment but a simple thumps up or down is
> enough to express their opinion. Making the voting more accessible means
> that even the silent people have a change to participate in this community
> vote.
>
> 2) That poll was not made public. On a public vote you see the usernames
> below the different options.
>
> 3) If you see who voted for what, you can also see who commented. Besides,
> by using thumps up, users can agree with other people their reactions
> instead of replying with the same comment or "Same reasoning as user xx"
>
> 4) That is a valid point. I don't have a clear answer to that right now.
>
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>
>
>
> 24 sep. 2022 10:47 van
> tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:
>
> 1) "The most popular vote on OSM wiki had about 130 votes.
> This is really low considering the amount of mappers present in the
> OpenStreetMap community"
>
> how many people commented/voted on the most popular thread on
> OpenStreetMap community forum?
>
> 2) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
> how can I see who voted for what?
>
> 3) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
> strongly encourages voting without comment, further moving it
> from commenting with feedback to just a pure vote
>
> Is there a mode that requires and records comments from "no" votes?
>
> 4) It divorces proposal content and vote making more likely that
> people will vote without even looking at proposal
>
> 5) Yes, it is nicer than OSM wiki interface
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 09:37 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
> Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum
>
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Move_proposal_voting_from_wiki_to_the_new_forum
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Yes, if you click on a tag, you see all topics with that tag. On the top right, 
you see a bell icon. There you can select to get emails.

That is why I proposed to use the tag "wiki-proposal" on all proposals (RFC) 
and votes. 
Additionally, you can get an RSS feed. Click on a tag and add .rss to the 
website URL like: 
https://community.openstreetmap.org/tag/tagging.rss

Greetings,
Vincent



24 sep. 2022 10:51 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

> (1)
> Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
> getting
> notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?
>
> "Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new 
> proposals
> on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
>> mailing list
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>>
>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Vincent
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Thanks for the feedback, good points.

1) That people don't reply to a post doesn't mean they don't have an opinion. 
The new forum for example allows to give emoticon reactions. This means that 
people don't need to comment but a simple thumps up or down is enough to 
express their opinion. Making the voting more accessible means that even the 
silent people have a change to participate in this community vote.

2) That poll was not made public. On a public vote you see the usernames below 
the different options.

3) If you see who voted for what, you can also see who commented. Besides, by 
using thumps up, users can agree with other people their reactions instead of 
replying with the same comment or "Same reasoning as user xx"

4) That is a valid point. I don't have a clear answer to that right now.

Greetings,

Vincent



24 sep. 2022 10:47 van tagging_at_openstreetmap_org_seblajk...@simplelogin.co:

> 1) "The most popular vote on OSM wiki had about 130 votes. 
> This is really low considering the amount of mappers present in the 
> OpenStreetMap community"
>
> how many people commented/voted on the most popular thread on 
> OpenStreetMap community forum?
>
> 2) > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
> how can I see who voted for what?
>
> 3) > https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
> strongly encourages voting without comment, further moving it
> from commenting with feedback to just a pure vote
>
> Is there a mode that requires and records comments from "no" votes?
>
> 4) It divorces proposal content and vote making more likely that
> people will vote without even looking at proposal
>
> 5) Yes, it is nicer than OSM wiki interface
>
> Sep 24, 2022, 09:37 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:
>
>> Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum
>>
>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Move_proposal_voting_from_wiki_to_the_new_forum
>>
>> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>>
>> Greetings,
>>
>> Vincent
>>
>
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[Tagging] addr:town

[Andrew Hain]

The key addr:town is currently documented as de facto 
[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Item:Q1070][https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:addr:town].
 However investigations in the UK have found it to generally be a mistake for 
addr:city or 
addr:suburb[https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Addresses_in_the_United_Kingdom#Address_tags].
 Should it be deprecated?
addr:town
The town of the object that forms part of the address.
wiki.openstreetmap.org


--
Andrew
Addresses in the United Kingdom - OpenStreetMap 
Wiki
There are also several tags that have been used in the UK which shouldn't have 
been. These include addr:locality, addr:subdistrict and addr:site.See the tags 
to avoid section below. Please note that addr:district (Local Authority area), 
addr:county and addr:country have also been added to the tags to avoid section. 
This is because all three can be automatically determined using the admin ...
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[bkil]

What about bridging them together?

On Sat, Sep 24, 2022 at 12:00 PM Yves via Tagging
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>
>
>
> Le 24 septembre 2022 10:47:53 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
>  a écrit :
> >3) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
> >strongly encourages voting without comment, further moving it
> >from commenting with feedback to just a pure vote
> >
> >Is there a mode that requires and records comments from "no" votes?
> >
> >4) It divorces proposal content and vote making more likely that
> >people will vote without even looking at proposal
> >
>
> 3) and 4) above are serious arguments.
>
> I would be cautious about voting: the wiki proposal process is a wiki + 
> tagging list process which has certainly its flaws, and that is sanctioned in 
> some way by voting on the wiki.
> I think the new community site should be more integrated in the process 
> before talking about voting.
> Yves
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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[Yves via Tagging]

Le 24 septembre 2022 10:47:53 GMT+02:00, Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging 
 a écrit :
>3) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
>strongly encourages voting without comment, further moving it
>from commenting with feedback to just a pure vote
>
>Is there a mode that requires and records comments from "no" votes?
>
>4) It divorces proposal content and vote making more likely that
>people will vote without even looking at proposal
>

3) and 4) above are serious arguments.

I would be cautious about voting: the wiki proposal process is a wiki + tagging 
list process which has certainly its flaws, and that is sanctioned in some way 
by voting on the wiki.
I think the new community site should be more integrated in the process before 
talking about voting. 
Yves 

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

(1)
Is there a way to subscribe somehow to get notifications via email, without 
getting
notified about for example postings in talk-de subforum?

"Using simple rss or email notifications, people can subscribe to new proposals
on the community." is mentioned but it is not clear how it can be done

Sep 24, 2022, 09:34 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
> mailing list
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>

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Re: [Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[Mateusz Konieczny via Tagging]

1) "The most popular vote on OSM wiki had about 130 votes. 
This is really low considering the amount of mappers present in the 
OpenStreetMap community"

how many people commented/voted on the most popular thread on 
OpenStreetMap community forum?

2) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
how can I see who voted for what?

3) https://community.openstreetmap.org/t/votes-on-discourse/508
strongly encourages voting without comment, further moving it
from commenting with feedback to just a pure vote

Is there a mode that requires and records comments from "no" votes?

4) It divorces proposal content and vote making more likely that
people will vote without even looking at proposal

5) Yes, it is nicer than OSM wiki interface

Sep 24, 2022, 09:37 by tagging@openstreetmap.org:

> Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum
>
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Move_proposal_voting_from_wiki_to_the_new_forum
>
> Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.
>
> Greetings,
>
> Vincent
>

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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Move proposal voting from wiki to the new forum 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Move_proposal_voting_from_wiki_to_the_new_forum

 Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

Greetings,

Vincent
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[Tagging] Feature Proposal - RFC - Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the mailing list

[Cartographer10 via Tagging]

Require proposal announcements to be made on the new forum instead of the 
mailing list

 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Require_proposal_announcements_to_be_made_on_the_new_forum_instead_of_the_mailing_list

Please discuss this proposal on its Wiki Talk page.

Greetings,

Vincent
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