Hello Supaplex
Thank you very much for your explanation for others. It's exactly what I meant.
It's areas especially designed for emergency vehicles, e.g a ladder which will
reach most of the areas from a bulding. I think parking would be the wrong
approach, because it's not really a parking, more a working are. I like
emergency=service_area or better emergency=rescue_area.
I made the mentioned military area to the real situation with your taggings:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/860308598
What do you think about?
Kind regards
Christian
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Von: Supaplex
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 28. Oktober 2020 00:40
An: tagging@openstreetmap.org
Betreff: Re: [Tagging] Tagging from fire_service_areas - landuse:emergency
We (or Christian) are talking about areas that must be kept free, especially
near buildings, so that fire brigade vehicles can stand and work there in case
of an emergency. For example, it is not allowed to park there, no objects may
be placed there etc. In German-speaking countries it is very common to find
areas that are specially designated for this use (I don't know what the
situation is like in other countries). These areas can be e.g. paved areas or
just grass, sometimes with surface=grass_paver (these areas must be able to
carry vehicles weighing up to 16 tons). I think tagging of these areas is very
useful for use by rescue services, as Christian apparently intends to do, or
for micro mapping purposes.
How about "emergency = rescue_area" (very rarely in use)? I agree that landuse
should not be used in this case, but we have "emergency" for this. For fire
fighters access ways there is already "highway = service" + "service =
emergency access" in use (see
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:service%3Demergency_access).
(Another question I ask myself in this context: How do you mark footways/path
that serve as fire fighter access - i.e. are designated, suitable and wide
enough for this purpose? I have already used "highway = footway" +
"motor_vehicle = emergency" in these cases.)
Am 28.10.20 um 00:05 schrieb Robert Delmenico:
I'm not sure what you're referring to but I'll put some options here to
discuss:
Fire districts: used for declaring total for bans in Australia
https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/warnings-restrictions/find-your-fire-district
Neighbourhood safer places in Victoria - where you can go as a last resort
in a bushfire situation
https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/plan-prepare/neighbourhood-safer-places
There are also administrative fire service regions/districts in Victoria
but there would be minimal value in mapping these.
https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/about/where-we-are
There are training grounds used solely for training emergency service
personnel
https://www.cfa.vic.gov.au/about/victorian-emergency-management-training-centres
There is land which the fire stations sit on
amenity=fire_station
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dfire_station
Then there is the fire stations
building=fire_station
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dfire_station
Kind regards,
Rob
On Wed, 28 Oct 2020, 9:20 am Graeme Fitzpatrick,
<mailto:graemefi...@gmail.com>
wrote:
Hi Christian
On Tue, 27 Oct 2020 at 18:35, Nüssli Christian (SRZ) <
christian.nues...@zuerich.ch<mailto:christian.nues...@zuerich.ch>> wrote:
I wanted to ask you if there's a correct mapping of fire service areas.
That's areas in fire protection guidelines that will be reserved for
emergency vehicles.
Sorry, but what do you mean by "fire service areas", & "reserved for
emergency vehicles"?
Are you referring to fire stations & emergency lanes?
I found quite a few that are tagged as landuse=military which is in my
opinion – the incorrect way.
No, not even knowing for sure what we're talking about, but I can see that
would be wrong!
Thanks
Graeme
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