Re: [GTALUG] KiCad or ...

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On Wed, 10 Apr 2024 at 19:45, Colin McGregor via talk  wrote:
> I have looked at KiCad, but are there better options out there?

KiCad is generally well regarded and quite capable.

> Also, looking for learning the software in question,
> are there any good YouTube tutorial videos?

https://youtu.be/nkHFoxe0mrU

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Re: [GTALUG] Securely wiping SSDs

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The original request was for a Linux command line utility. However, if
any O/S and control interface is acceptable (E.g. Windows GUI
program), and possibly having to trust closed-source code, then you
may wish to check if the manufacturer of the SSD drive has a utility
targeted to wiping your particular model.

For example:
Intel:
https://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/support/articles/06084/memory-and-storage.html

Samsung:
https://semiconductor.samsung.com/us/consumer-storage/magician/

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Re: [GTALUG] RISC-V News

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On Sun, 4 Feb 2024 at 16:53, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> If the RISC-V design is open source, what is SiFive selling?

RISC-V is an Instruction Set Architecture (ISA) - the binary code that
an assembler or compiler creates and is loaded and executed on a CPU.
The hardware design of the CPU that actually executes those
instructions can remain proprietary.

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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On Tue, 23 Jan 2024 at 14:55, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Nothing, but you suggested I would not need 4k..bell accessibility
> disagrees  with you, even if it does not work.

No, I said you wouldn't need a box capable of outputting 4k video
resolution (3840 x 2160 pixels), like the VIP5662 is, since you don't
have a 4K resolution TV.

"Apple TV 4K" is the name of a specific box that Apple sells. It is
capable of outputting 4K video but you don't have to use it at that
resolution. I'm guessing Bell Accessibility probably uses the Apple TV
4K box because of a specific feature that it can provide, like maybe
"descriptive video" audio output, or some other accessibility feature
that other products don't provide.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_TV#4K_(first_generation)

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 22:07, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Bell accessibility requires you use the apple TV 4k

I'm sorry but I'm confused. What does that have to do with the VIP2502
box that you're looking for?

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 21:17, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> What bell's site states, and what can be provided, specifically from an
> access ability standpoint, are more than two different things

The VIP2262 has all the same connections as the VIP2502, including
component and composite video and analog audio out, all on RCA
connectors. The cases, including the front and back panels, are
virtually identical between the two.

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 18:57, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> bell has provided the wrong equipment twice now.

According to Bell's web site, the receiver that is currently used for
Fibe TV is the VIP2262 (presumably with the optional wireless
interface). They also use the VIP5662 for 4K resolution TV but I doubt
you would require the capability to receive 4K.

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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On Mon, 22 Jan 2024 at 18:25, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> I thought digital telephone signals were a big problem for you so I
> wondered if digital TV would be a similar problem.

If she were to go with "Over the Air" TV, that would be all digital,
too (up to the point it's converted to analog by a converter box, if
necessary). There's no analog TV in the GTA.

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Re: [GTALUG] anyone have this bell item?

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If you subscribe to Bell's Fibe TV service, they should provide, or
tell you how to obtain, the equipment necessary to use the service.

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Re: [GTALUG] "AI" on getting correct technical answers

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On Tue, 16 Jan 2024 at 00:56, Alvin Starr via talk  wrote:
> google authenticator  has a chrome extension you can use.
> I use a package called authy that has a desktop version.

For RFC 6238 Timed-based One-time Password (TOTP), which most sites
that offer TOTP use, I use the Google Authenticator app on my phone
and KeePassXC for PCs. When adding a new site, I set up both at the
same time, with the same key/QR code, so they generate the same codes
and I can use either to sign in.
https://keepassxc.org/

However, if offered, my first choice for 2FA is a physical security
key. I have a Google Titan key.
https://store.google.com/ca/product/titan_security_key

Yubico keys are probably the more popular choice and offer models with
more features.
https://www.yubico.com/products/

It's more convenient to press a button instead of having to enter a
code, even if you can copy and paste the code. Most sites allow you to
set up both TOTP and physical key based 2FA, which I do in case I
don't have my Titan key with me.

There's also the relatively new "passkey" standard for phones, that
doesn't require a hardware key or entry of a passcode. I haven't seen
much use of this yet.
https://fidoalliance.org/passkeys/

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Re: [GTALUG] update with a new question, is since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 17:26, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> The Mediasonic models we have discussed to date are available at Amazon and 
> ... as far as I can tell ... nowhere else.

Huh? I just posted, with links to 4 other places selling the Mediasonic
HW130STB. Walmart is a fifth but I didn't include them because it's a
bit pricey there.

The Proscan box seems to get a lot of poor reviews and ratings

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Re: [GTALUG] update with a new question, is since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 15:00, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Before I spend several ours on the phone, let me be certain that there is
> no place
>   in town, not factory direct or anyone where I can walk in and buy  an
> atsc capable converter box?

I couldn't find any "storefronts" stocking one for sale. However, the
Mediasonic box is available for order from other online retailers, who
may be easier for you to deal with than Amazon.

As I previously mentioned, Best Buy has it (from a third party)
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/mediasonic-homeworx-atsc-digital-converter-box-with-tv-recording-and-media-player-function-hw130stb/12290862

Newegg:
https://www.newegg.ca/mediasonic-homeworx-hw130stb/p/N82E16886803007

PC-Canada:
https://www.pc-canada.com/item/mediasonic-homeworx-hw130stb-atsc-digital-converter-box/hw130stb

DirecDial:
https://www.directdial.com/ca/item/mediasonic-homeworx-hw130stb-atsc-digital-converter-box/hw130stb

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Re: [GTALUG] update with a new question, is since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Fri, 8 Dec 2023 at 16:15, Don Tai via talk  wrote:
> this OTA TV test should take no more than 10 minutes

It may take longer than that if you didn't get good reception right
away and wanted to try scanning with the antenna in various locations,
directions and orientations. However, it likely still wouldn't take a
great amount of time.

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 15:50, Don Tai via talk  wrote:
> I have contemplated adding a second antenna for Hamilton

A rotor is another option for this situation.

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 14:52, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Then, as is just asked, I am confused as to what makes the GE solution
> better.

So am I. You would have to ask Evan why he thinks it's better. It's
quite difficult to conclude that one antenna is better than another
for your particular situation. You really have to just try one and see
how well it works, if it works at all.

For an outdoor antennal you would normally mount it to a wall or mast
and run the cable through a hole somewhere to the tuner that's inside
and attached to (or built into) the TV. If you add a separate
amplifier, it could be either inside or outside, depending on the
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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 7 Dec 2023 at 12:54, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> I have been thinking the / number provides the range is that correct?

I don't think so. Range will depend on many factors, as has been
previously discussed. Manufacturers will estimate range in many
different ways and for some less reputable companies will greatly
exaggerate it.

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 22:41, Don Tai  wrote:
> 4 stations from an indoor antenna is good, but you might need to play with 
> its orientation and stick it closer to a window for line of sight LOS 
> reception.

I'm not sure I actually have line of sight. In order to receive
anything, the antenna has to be tilted about 30° to 60°. With it
vertical (as you would expect) or even fully horizontal, it picks up
nothing. I'm wondering if the signal I'm getting is actually a
reflection off of something, which is strangely causing it to be
polarized about 45°?

It's also curious that I don't receive other stations broadcast from
the CN Tower: Global (41.1 channel 17) and Omni 1 (47.1 channel 30).
Once, after a scan, I got a very broken up Omni 2 (40.1 channel 26).
It's understandable that I don't get CTV (9.1 channel 8), since it's
on VHF and the antenna's size is optimised for UHF.

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 22:23, Scott Allen  wrote:
> On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 21:14, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> > Sayal does not sell amplified antennas
>
> Yes, they do. Of the 11 TV antennas listed under "TV-Radio Antennas
> and Accessories", 6 have built in amplifiers:

Make that 5. Upon further research: The ANT5012 that I listed is not
amplified. (The ANT5013 is.)

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 21:14, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> Sayal does not sell amplified antennas

Yes, they do. Of the 11 TV antennas listed under "TV-Radio Antennas
and Accessories", 6 have built in amplifiers:

1. Philips SDV7225 indoor

2. Philips SDV8622T/27 indoor/outdoor

3. RCA CANT702Z indoor/outdoor

4. Digiwave ANT5012 indoor/outdoor

5. Digiwave ANT5013 indoor/outdoor

6. CJ Tech 72257 outdoor

P.S. Karen's conversation piqued my curiosity, so I bought the Philips
SDV8622T/27 from Sayal a few days ago. I'm located in North-East
Scarborough, a bit west of the Toronto Zoo. Using a Haier 32" LCD TV,
that has a built in digital tuner, and with the antenna pointed
towards the CN Tower through a second story window, I am able to
receive 4 stations:

CBLT-DT CBC 5.1 (channel 20)
TVO 19.1 (channel 19)
CBLFT-DT CBC French 25.1 (channel 25)
CITYTV 57.1 (channel 18)

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 15:35, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> perhaps I will ask about the antenna then

What do you want to ask about an antenna?  They don't sell any made by
Channel Master, if that's what you're wondering.

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Re: [GTALUG] since I am going to sayal anyway...is ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 6 Dec 2023 at 15:24, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> So, perhaps I can pick up one of my otar items the converter box, at
> a lower cost?

I did a search for an ATSC tuner box on Sayal's web site and didn't
come up with anything.

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Re: [GTALUG] AI Alliance

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I asked https://huggingface.co/chat/ the question:
"Should the Greater Toronto Area Linux User Group join the AI Alliance?"
and got this answer:

I cannot make a decision for the Greater Toronto Area Linux User Group
(GTA LUG) regarding joining the AI Alliance. However, I can provide
some information and considerations that may help inform their
decision.

The AI Alliance is an organization that aims to promote the
development and use of artificial intelligence (AI) in various
industries, including technology, healthcare, finance, and more. By
joining the AI Alliance, members can access resources, networking
opportunities, and collaborative projects that can help them stay
up-to-date with the latest developments in AI and expand their
expertise.

Here are some potential benefits of GTA LUG joining the AI Alliance:

1. Access to resources: The AI Alliance offers its members access to a
wealth of resources, including research papers, webinars, case
studies, and tutorials on AI-related topics. These resources could be
valuable for GTA LUG members who want to learn more about AI and its
applications.

2. Networking opportunities: Joining the AI Alliance would give GTA
LUG members the chance to connect with other professionals and
organizations interested in AI, potentially leading to new
partnerships, collaborations, or business opportunities.

3. Collaborative projects: As a member of the AI Alliance, GTA LUG
could participate in collaborative projects with other member
organizations, startups, and research institutions. This could lead to
innovative solutions and advancements in areas like open-source AI
software, AI-powered tools for developers, or AI applications for
social good.

4. Advocacy: The AI Alliance advocates for policies and regulations
that support the responsible development and deployment of AI. By
joining the alliance, GTA LUG could contribute to shaping the
conversation around AI ethics, privacy, and security.

5. Brand visibility: Participating in the AI Alliance could enhance
GTA LUG's reputation as a forward-thinking and innovative community
group, dedicated to exploring emerging technologies like AI.

6. Potential sponsorship opportunities: The AI Alliance might offer
sponsorship opportunities for events, conferences, or hackathons,
which could help GTA LUG secure funding for their activities.

7. Discounts and special offers: Members of the AI Alliance may
receive discounts or special offers on AI-related products, services,
or events, which could benefit GTA LUG members.

8. Educational opportunities: The AI Alliance provides educational
resources and workshops on AI-related topics, which could help GTA LUG
members improve their skills and knowledge.

9. Community engagement: By joining the AI Alliance, GTA LUG could
demonstrate its commitment to engaging with the broader tech community
and contributing to the growth of the AI ecosystem.

However, there are also potential drawbacks to consider:

1. Cost: There may be membership fees associated with joining the AI
Alliance, which could be a financial burden for GTA LUG.

2. Time commitment: Participating in the AI Alliance might require a
significant time investment from GTA LUG members, particularly if they
choose to take on leadership roles or participate in collaborative
projects.

3. Focus shift: Joining the AI Alliance might shift GTA LUG's focus
away from its core mission and objectives, potentially diluting its
efforts in promoting Linux and open-source technologies.

4. Overlap with existing initiatives: Some of the AI Alliance's goals
and activities might overlap with those of other organizations or
initiatives that GTA LUG is already involved with. It's essential to
evaluate whether joining the AI Alliance would complement or conflict
with these existing commitments.

5. Governance: GTA LUG should assess the AI Alliance's governance
structure, decision-making processes, and values to ensure alignment
with their own principles and goals.

Ultimately, the decision to join the AI Alliance should be based on
careful consideration of how it aligns with GTA LUG's strategic
objectives, available resources, and member interests. If the benefits
outweigh the costs and the alliance aligns with GTA LUG's goals,
joining could provide valuable opportunities for growth,
collaboration, and contributions to the larger tech community.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 13:50, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> I was able to watch sd channels, labeled as such by bell, until I moved in

Yes, sorry, I have to correct myself. It's analog broadcasting that
has gone away. Digital broadcasts (ATSC) can carry both standard and
high definition resolutions. There may very well still be standard
definition broadcasts available but the will be in ATSC digital
format, not NTSC analog format.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 12:39, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> First, I am not 100% certain that all analog or standard definition
> channels are gone, unless that has happened since 2022.

Yes, standard definition analog broadcasts have been gone from
anywhere in the GTA, and most of Canada, since long before 2022. There
may be a few remote areas in Canada that are still broadcasting analog
NTSC.

However, this is not a concern. The ATSC tuner will down-convert all
the high definition channels it receives to a standard definition
signal that is compatible with your TV.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Thu, 30 Nov 2023 at 12:59, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> Such a solution (as an alternative to coaxial) requires a triple-RCA AV cable 
> with yellow, red and white RCA connectors on each end.

However, the Mediasonic tuner includes the required cable and Karen's
TV supports it. It might be easier to set the TV signal source to the
proper video input than making sure it's set to channel 3 or 4 to
match the tuner setting.

The remote for the TV has the source select button at the top left
corner. You just have to press this button followed by the "1" button,
which is directly below, to select video in 1.

> I've used this. Video quality is inferior to using coax

It should be better than coax, since it doesn't have to have the RF
carrier removed.
https://www.sony.com/electronics/support/articles/00032169

From that article (referring to composite video): "It provides better
picture quality than RF".

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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Here's a review I found for the Mediasonic HW130STB ATSC box I
mentioned earlier:
https://www.disablemycable.com/blog/mediasonic-homeworx-digital-converter-box/

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 17:15, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> You are speaking specifically of the channel master Evan just recommended?

Yes. You would have to check if a cable is included with other antennas.

Keep in mind that the ability to receive acceptable Over The Air (OTA)
signals from your location isn't guaranteed. It would be best if you
could check this before making  any investments in equipment for this
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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 17:07, Scott Allen  wrote:
> and perhaps a coaxial cable (as are used with Rogers cable, etc.)

The Channel Master FLATenna antenna that Evan linked to includes a 12
foot cable. If you need a longer one you would have to obtain it
separately.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 17:01, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> 3. if I do not also need the  HDMI adapter, is it because the antenna option
> has its own ability to connect?

You don't need anything except the TV and the antenna, and perhaps a
coaxial cable (as are used with Rogers cable, etc.)

The antenna connects to the RF input jack that the TV has.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 16:13, Don Tai  wrote:
> Your TV is NTSC. Sadly you will need a new TV.

Or, as I said, an ATSC tuner box. The average price seems to be about
$50. Best Buy has one on sale for $43.
https://www.bestbuy.ca/en-ca/product/mediasonic-homeworx-atsc-digital-converter-box-with-tv-recording-and-media-player-function-hw130stb/12290862

However, it would probably be more cost effective and less complicated
to just get a small inexpensive LCD TV.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: sort of, is it really impossible to get real cable anymore?

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On Wed, 29 Nov 2023 at 15:48, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> for the record, my set is a Toshiba 32af43.

The Toshiba 32af43 is an old CRT based analogue TV. It is only capable
of tuning NTSC analogue signals, which are no longer being broadcast.
You would need an ATSC capable TV or an ATSC tuner box.

As for an antenna, many stores that sell TVs will also sell antennas.
Walmart has them. Best Buy has them. Also, Sayal Electronics has a
number of them available for various prices.

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Re: [GTALUG] (very off topic) torque spec of impact wrench

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On Fri, 3 Nov 2023 at 09:32, Don Tai via talk  wrote:
> Once loosened then add some anti-seize compound so that this does not happen 
> again in the future.

Anti-seize compound will reduce the friction between the threads, so
if you use the recommended torque for the nuts you will end up over
torquing them. It's difficult to know what the proper torque value to
use if anti-seize compound or other corrosion inhibitors are used.

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Re: [GTALUG] sigh, hardware resources?

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On Fri, 13 Oct 2023 at 19:56, William Park via talk  wrote:
> When you say "ISO slot"... do you mean

I'm pretty sure she means ISA slot.

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Re: [GTALUG] why I like shared libraries -- no longer a popular position

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Many years ago, I used Gentoo Linux as my primary O/S. I often wonder
if I should try it again. It's a source based, rolling release
distribution. Packages are compiled locally and usually dynamically
linked to shared libraries. If a package isn't compatible with the
latest release of a given library, it can be linked to an earlier
version.

The problem I had with Gentoo was that a fair amount of work was
required to maintain the system, both by the user and with the time
needed for compiles (especially if a change triggered the need to
recompile a majority of the packages). If something broke, either
during compiling or when running, it could sometimes be frustrating
hunting down the fix or waiting for someone to solve the problem.
Having not used it for some time, I'm not sure if things have gotten
better in this respect.

It can also take some effort deciding and fiddling with how you want
to tailor it to your liking.

However, I found it was quite a nice system to use when things were
working properly.

https://www.gentoo.org/

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Re: [GTALUG] looking for a general purpose boot media to keep in case of distasters

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On Wed, 20 Sept 2023 at 11:48, joeDoe via talk  wrote:
> Debian also publishes live images:

It would be a lot less work to list distributions that DON'T have live images.

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 13:42, James Knott  wrote:
> Does it support DHCPv6-PD?

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/configuration

"Automatic bootstrap from SLAAC, stateless DHCPv6, stateful DHCPv6,
DHCPv6-PD and any combination"

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 12:56, James Knott  wrote:
> I don't doubt OpenWRT can do those things, but can they do them as well as 
> pfSense?

I'm sure OpenWRT can do them just as well, once configured. I haven't
looked at OpenWRT lately but I previously got the impression that many
add-on packages and even built-in features didn't include GUI
extensions. Configuration of these had to be done from a console.

With pfSense and OPNsense, extending the GUI by installed packages
seems to be the norm.

I'm comfortable configuring using a console, having done it frequently
during my employment, but these days I usually just want to get things
done, without a lot of reading, learning and typing.

Another reason for using OPNsense is just to play with something
different and new to me. :-)

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 12:21, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> it supports routing protocols such as OSPF & BGP

https://www.linuxtechguy.com/2020/11/27/dynamic-routing-using-ospf-on-openwrt/
https://docs.daper.io/networking/bgp/openwrt/

> One is my main LAN, which also has a VLAN for my guest WiFi

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/vlan/switch_configuration

> I run IPv4 & IPv6

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/network/ipv6/start

> can also use OpenVPN for remote access

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/services/vpn/start

> I have a DNS resolver, which goes directly to the root DNS servers

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/base-system/dhcp

> an NTP server, connected to 3 stratum 1 servers and 3 stratum 2 servers

https://openwrt.org/docs/guide-user/services/ntp/client-server

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 11:33, Val Kulkov via talk  wrote:
> I am curious what OpenWRT didn't provide that pfSense or OPNsense do provide.

I'm moving from DD-WRT to OPNsense (or maybe pfSense). One of the
primary reasons I'm doing so is for keeping the firmware up to date. With
all the "WRT" software (DD-WRT, OpenWRT, FreshTomato) there was always
something that made it difficult to maintain my router at a release
with the latest security fixes.

With DD-WRT it's hard to tell what the latest release to use is. It
seems the philosophy is "Try the latest. If it doesn't work, try
previous ones and/or discuss or report the problem".

With OpenWRT, it appears you have to re-install any manually installed
packages after a system upgrade. Another problem with OpenWRT is that
they seem to frequently up the minimum hardware requirements (flash
and RAM) and drop support for older hardware with low resources.

FreshTomato looks good for maintaining the latest firmware. However,
it's limited to Broadcom based systems. Because of this, I'm not sure
it will continue to be maintained in the long run.

With OPNsense, you can check if a new release is available from the
router's GUI itself and updating appears to be straightforward, either
from the GUI or the console.

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 11:08, Scott Allen  wrote:
> BSD, and thus pfSense or OPNsense, is limited in the chipsets that it 
> supports as an access point.

I intended to include a URL:
https://docs.netgate.com/pfsense/en/latest/wireless/hardware.html

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Re: [GTALUG] Debian Linux as-a-router Guide

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On Thu, 7 Sept 2023 at 10:21, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
> If it turns out to be direly difficult, pfsense may happen later.

What chipset is used for WiFi? BSD, and thus pfSense or OPNsense, is
limited in the chipsets that it supports as an access point.

Just curious; how/where is the WiFi antenna attached?

(I suspect I'm the friend that James Knott just mentioned.)

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Re: [GTALUG] serial and parallel ports [was nice deal on ThinkPad E16]

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 08:55, Anthony de Boer via talk  wrote:
> The FTDI USB-Serial adapters were very good, but then the market got
> flooded with cheap PL2303-based ones that are horrible, losing whole
> swathes of text during fast screen updates.

Due to the proliferation of Chinese counterfeit FTDI chips, which you
may unknowingly end up getting and are somewhat crippled, I tend to
favour the CH340 family of USB to serial chips. I've never needed to
run them at very high speeds, though.

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Re: [GTALUG] serial and parallel ports [was nice deal on ThinkPad E16]

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On Tue, 1 Aug 2023 at 00:02, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> ports.  Is a USB-to-parallel dongle OK?
>
> I guess that a USB-to-serial dongle would be OK.

Possibly not, if serial and/or parallel is required under MSDOS,
especially if the programs used talk directly to the hardware, which
was common for DOS programs.

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Re: [GTALUG] speaking of surge protection, is computer hardware testing tool

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On Thu, 20 Jul 2023 at 14:48, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> 4. spelling looked fine to me.

In the title, I believe "is computer hardware testing tool"
was meant to be "was computer hardware testing tool"

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 15:11, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> You might be able to tell if you have breakers or fuses by how loudly the
> landlord swears. Resetting a breaker is easy: just flip the switch back.
> Replacing a fuse is worse because you have to have a spare fuse and buy
> some more when you run low.

You can get breakers shaped like a fuse, with a reset button in the
middle, to replace actual fuses. This could reduce the swearing if
it's a fuse box. I don't  know if the electrical code actually allows
these things but it may.

https://www.canadiantire.ca/en/pdp/leviton-mini-push-button-fuse-breaker-120v-assorted-amp-capacities-0523589p.0523589.html

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 13:57, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> AC power is always rated in volt amps.  Because of power factor, you
> can't use watts.

Unless it's a purely resistive load, naturally has a  power factor of
1 or has power factor correction. But I don't think we should be
complicating the discussion by continuing about this.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 13:08, Scott Allen  wrote:
> If the equipment is in different rooms or on different circuits, you will
> need more than one, just like you would use multiple power bars.

To clarify:

The need for more than one UPS is normally due to physical, location
constraints. Unless all the equipment you'd like to protect would draw
more power than is provided by a single 15 amp circuit, you can put it
all on one UPS, as long as the power cords can all reach it.

Note that you should only be considering equipment you are concerned
about protecting or continuing to run during fairly short power
outages. You wouldn't put appliances, or other things that aren't very
susceptible to surges or noise, on a UPS.

I would make a list of the devices you'd like to protect. For example,
your PC and monitor, the Kurzweil reader, a TV?, maybe your internet
modem/router?. From that, decide if you need more than one UPS based
on their locations and power reach. Determine the current or
wattage/VA that each requires. From that, along with considering how
long you want the equipment to be able to continue running if there's
a power failure, the proper size of the UPS(s) can be figured out.

In many cases, the time that the equipment needs to run during a power
failure doesn't have to be very long. Just enough time (with some
margin) to be able to properly and safely shut the equipment down,
then you wait out the power outage before turning everything back on.

If you actually want to be able to continue using the equipment for
some time during a power failure, then a more expensive UPS with a
larger battery may be required for it.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 12:49, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> That means  one for each room?  or one for each outlet where a power strip
> will be run?

Think of a UPS as a power bar. If you can power all of the equipment
you'd like to protect on one power bar or outlet, you need one UPS. If
the equipment is in different rooms or on different circuits, you will
need more than one, just like you would use multiple power bars.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 12:37, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Thanks for providing a rich way for me to think this through.

If I were you, I'd just put whatever equipment you're concerned about on a UPS.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 11:51, Scott Allen  wrote:
> A conditioner would help against noise but you would likely need
> a UPS for brownouts and sags.

In anticipation of a possible reply:
There's a device called a harmonic transformer that can boost the
voltage of a sagging line and also lower overvoltage; more or less an
AC voltage regulator. However, these are large, heavy and expensive,
even for a single device or circuit. The cost and size of a whole home
capable one would be prohibitive.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Tue, 18 Jul 2023 at 11:27, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> I imagine that a whole house conditioner would be meant to address
> problems with power coming into the house.  If the problem is inside
> the house, it probably isn't the best solution.

Most power surges are external, coming into the house from outside
wiring. However, a whole house surge protector would still protect
against internal surges, since all the wiring is essentially in
parallel. This is especially true if a surge originated on a different
circuit than a susceptible device is on because the surge would have
to reach the panel (thus the protector) before going to the device's
circuit.

Internal equipment and wiring is more likely to generate electrical
noise, brownouts and power sags. A conditioner would help against
noise but you would likely need a UPS for brownouts and sags. Both a
conditioner and UPS would usually also provide surge protection.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Mon, 17 Jul 2023 at 20:32, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Perhaps a more solid surge protector with enough  places to plug things in
> might?

You can get "whole house" surge protectors that are wired or plugged
into the breaker panel. One of the ones that are wired in might be
able to be wired into your house's fuse box.
(Do you actually have a fuse box? Did the inspector say whether it was
a fuse box or a breaker panel?)

Perhaps your landlord would be open to installing one of these.

Search for "whole house surge protector", you'll find lots of
information and recommendations, such as:

https://energyrates.ca/product-reviews/surge-protectors/

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 19:30, Scott Allen  wrote:
> - A single run of the required 12 gauge cable is cheaper and easier
> than running two 14 gauge cables.

Sorry, I'll correct myself. For the 15A circuit you can use a single 3
conductor (plus ground) 14 gauge cable, so pulling it is about the
same as 2 conductor (plus ground) 12 gauge cable. The 12 gauge cable
is still cheaper, though.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Fri, 14 Jul 2023 at 18:58, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> I was surprised to find out the code for kitchen outlets has changed at
> some point from having 2x15A circuits to each counter outlet pair,
> to having 1x20A to each outlet pair.

At the risk of continuing to go off topic; actually it hasn't
"changed". Allowing a 20A circuit is an addition.  You can still do a
split dual 15A outlet with a double pole breaker if you wish.

Advantages of a 20A circuit are:

- A single run of the required 12 gauge cable is cheaper and easier
than running two 14 gauge cables.

- You only need a single pole 20A breaker instead of a 2 pole 15A
breaker. This is cheaper and takes up less space in the panel.

- You can install a regular 20A breaker and use a receptacle with
ground and arc fault (GFCI/AFCI) protection. They don't make 15A split
receptacles with this protection so you have to use a 2 pole GFCI/AFCI
breaker. A 2 pole GFCI/AFCI breaker with a standard receptacle is much
more expensive than a non-protecting breaker with a GFCI/AFCI
receptacle.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 11:31, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Oh yes, we have gotten some fuse blows..which my landlord expects me to
> manage by sticking my hand into the fuse box.

It is actually a fuse box or is it a breaker panel? If it's a fuse
box, with fuses that have to be removed and replaced, then yes,
someone with impaired vision should not be messing with it.

If it's a breaker panel, feelling for a tripped breaker and resetting
it shouldn't be a problem, as long as there are no other exposed
dangers in the area.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Thu, 13 Jul 2023 at 10:56, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> for example the fridge is on an outlet with other  items

The Canadian and Ontario electrical codes require a fridge to have its
own dedicated circuit. (Actually, you're allowed to have an additional
outlet above the fridge location, on the same circuit, for a 120V AC
electric clock, which isn't commonly used or provided these days.) If
there are other things on the fridge circuit, you should remove them
if it's under your control. If these other items aren't under your
control, you should inform your landlord that it's a violation of the
electrical code.

If you're concerned about surges and brownouts caused by poor wiring,
overloaded circuits, heavy loads being switched on or off, or even
lightning, putting a UPS on the equipment you'd like to protect is a
good idea, as has been previously discussed.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 18:18, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Serial connectors are 9 pin, parallel cables are 25 pin.

On the PC side this is true. A PC parallel printer port is usually a
DB-25 female connector, which joins to a DB-25 male connector on the
cable.

The other end of the cable will have a 36 pin "Centronics" male
connector (officially known as a "Micro Ribbon" connector). The
printer will have a matching 36 pin female Centronics/Micro Ribbon
connector.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 17:44, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> The serial cable has a female connector and
> the printer cable has a male connector.

To be precise, for a serial cable:

The PC will have a DE-9 male connector and the cable that connects to
it will have a DE-9 female connector. The PC will be wired as Data
Terminal Equipment (DTE).

The other end of the cable will have a DB-25 male connector, which
will plug into the DB-25 female connector on the Kurzweil "The Reading
Edge" reader. The reader will be wired as Data Communications
Equipment (DCE), like a telephone modem.

Occasionally you would find PCs with DB-25 male DTE serial ports,
usually on expansion cards but that is not the case in this
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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 15:09, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> ...and of course that the words serial to parallel  appear in  the product
> description , for smart marketing is unimportant.

The product description of what? The cable you bought or the reader?

I found a photo of the back of a Kurzweil "The Reading Edge" reader
online. Next to the 25 pin DB-25 female connector is printed the words
"SERIAL PORT".

> Is  there a reason why you wish to play dueling dictionaries?

I was merely trying to do you a courtesy by letting you know what the
cable correctly is, in case you need to obtain another one in the
future and have to describe what it is to someone.

However, If what I've said has offended you in some way, I'll bow out,
as I've done in other discussions with you on this mailing list.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 12:37, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> How expensive are UPS units, and how do they work?

I was typing this when Don Tai replied but I'll post it just in case
anything additional I've said is helpful:

UPS stands for Uninterruptible Power Supply, sometimes also called a
"battery backup" unit. It's a piece of equipment that contains a
rechargeable battery, connects to your building's AC power (usually by
just plugging it into a standard AC outlet) and has AC receptacles on
it that you plug your equipment into instead of plugging them directly
into the wall. You could think of it as a big power bar with a battery
in it.

The battery is kept continually charged by a built-in battery charger
while it's plugged in. If the power fails, an DC to AC converter
(called an inverter) switches to the outlets and continues to provide
AC power to your equipment. When mains power is restored, the battery
is switched out and the AC is switched in and the battery is again
charged. Thus, it provides "uninterruptible" AC power to your
equipment. Like power bars, most UPSs also provide surge protection
and sometimes also other line conditioning.

The cost and size of the UPS you require will depend on how much power
the equipment you want to keep running draws and how long you have to
keep it running. For your requirements, the size could vary from about
12 inches square to the size of a large suitcase. Cost could be from
maybe $75 to many hundreds.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 13:13, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> Clearly that I referenced the cable in the next sentence indicates I
> understand the  machine requires one.

Yes, It requires a 9 pin to 25 pin serial port connector cable. Not a
serial port to parallel port cable that you referenced. A serial to
parallel cable would be somewhat custom and likely expensive, since it
would have to contain active electronics to convert serial protocol to
parallel protocol.

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Re: [GTALUG] computer hardware testing tools.

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On Wed, 12 Jul 2023 at 12:33, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> because my  reading edge connects via serial port on the computer, to a
> parallel port on the back of the reading edge.

No, it doesn't. You can't directly connect a serial port to a parallel
port. What you probably have is a 9 pin serial cable (IBM PC pinout)
to a 25 pin serial port (EIA/RS 232 standard pinout). (Just in case
you have to describe it in the future.)


> was amazed that I found  a new cable in fact, for like $14 no less.

They were quite common, because of the two connector/pinout standards,
so they're probably still readily available. I have a number of them
lying around.

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Re: [GTALUG] CVT-RB: another video mystery

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 15:07, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> After all we use ppi for pixels per inch.

And miles per gallon is commonly MPG (though the metric standard
reverses the terms and uses the slash; litres per 100 kilometres -
L/100km).

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Re: [GTALUG] CVT-RB: another video mystery

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On Tue, 20 Jun 2023 at 10:40, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> Is this documented anywhere?  Sure the audio is sent over the cable, but
> why should there be such a thing as a blanking interval on a digital
> system?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vertical_blanking_interval#Vertical_blanking_interval_in_digital_video

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Re: [GTALUG] Chromebook death dates

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On Thu, 1 Jun 2023 at 15:05, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> Pickett was a good brand.  I really didn't like plastic slide rules
> because they were jerky to operate: stiction.

I thought the circular ones were an interesting idea but I only had a
cheap plastic straight one.
https://www.sliderule.tokyo/products/detail.php?product_id=8

The year after I learned "slide rule" in high school, training was
dropped because calculators were becoming the norm.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 at 18:53, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> beagleBoneBlack

It appears that it runs Debian Linux, so you would set an IPv4 address
with any length of mask in the usual way for Debian.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 at 18:53, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> PasberryPi Pico w lan 8720 module (I lprefer wired communications - - 
> security)

I found this article:
https://www.raspberrypi.com/news/how-to-add-ethernet-to-raspberry-pi-pico/

If you follow it, your Pico will obtain an IP address from the router
(or other DCHP server) using DHCP. Therefore, for example, if you set
your router's DHCP server to assign addresses for 172.16.0.0 with a
mask of 255.255.0.0 (or 172.16.0.0/16), it would be able to hand out
up to 65534 IPv4 addresses (not including the router itself) in the
range of 172.16.0.1 to 172.16.255.254

If you need the Pico to have a fixed IP address, most DHCP servers can
be set to assign specific IP addresses based on the device's MAC
address.

I haven't looked further but it's also very likely that you can
configure the ethernet port of the Pico itself to have a static IP
address and a mask of any length.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sun, 30 Apr 2023 at 17:56, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> I just spent over 1/2 hour looking at a number of SoCs (3) and 
> microcontrollers
> (also 3) and I can't find one where I can give it this 'classless'
> address you're
> talking about.

Specifics?

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 17:39, James Knott  wrote:
> That's only true because people have learned a lot of bad habits with IPv4.

No, it's because IPv4 addresses are annotated as x.x.x.x
Sticking with class size masks makes it easy to separate the network
address part from the device address part.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 16:31, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> Also, forget about address classes. They've
> been obsolete for over 30 years.

That said, sticking with class sized masks and matching the network
numbers for class based networks tends to simplify addressing and make
things less confusing.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 16:04, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> If I set up a router using the 176.10.1.1 how many distinct IP
> addresses can I access?

Note that for a local private LAN, you shouldn't use 176.10.x.x

The range allocated for private LANs is 172.16.x.x to 172.31.x.x

Now it's time for James K. to tell you about IPV6 and the billions of
addresses you can use.

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Re: [GTALUG] how many addresses possible

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On Sat, 29 Apr 2023 at 16:04, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> If I set up a router using the 176.10.1.1 how many distinct IP
> addresses can I access?
>
> (I'm thinking some 64k worth but dunno!)

Correct, except you can't use all 1s or all 0s as a host address, so 64k-2.

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Re: [GTALUG] New WiFi router?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2023 at 11:45, Alvin Starr via talk  wrote:
> For a while Linksys was selling a version of the WRT54 that was
> specifically for OpenWRT.

GL.iNet makes routers that use OpenWrt for their firmware.
https://www.gl-inet.com/

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Re: [GTALUG] Forced off DSL by Bell

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On Sat, 26 Nov 2022 at 12:15, o1bigtenor via talk  wrote:
> No router?

pfSense is a router.

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Re: [GTALUG] DNS benchmarking

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On Thu, 3 Nov 2022 at 12:13, Evan Leibovitch via talk  wrote:
> Part of the reason for my questions is that Teksavvy's own DNS is both slow 
> and occasionally hijacked.

Where are you configuring your DNS server(s) and what are you using
them for? If it's mostly for web browsing, your browser might be
configured for DNS over HTTPS (DoH) or you may wish to consider doing
so. In this case the DoH server is probably configured in the browser
settings and likely isn't Teksavvy's (I don't think they even provide
DoH).

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Re: [GTALUG] exploring the keyboard [was: OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box]

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 14:04, Scott Allen  wrote:
> The missing key (that should be between left shift and Z) is for right
> and left double angle brackets « » and the degree symbol °

Correction: They're not double angle brackets. They're guillemets
(quotation marks).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Guillemet

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Re: [GTALUG] exploring the keyboard [was: OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box]

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On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 at 09:54, Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:
> They put the old canadian bilingual layout on it with one missing key and
> hence without the changes to the left shift and enter keys?

The missing key (that should be between left shift and Z) is for right
and left double angle brackets « » and the degree symbol °
I don't use the double brackets but being able to easily enter the
degree symbol is somewhat useful.

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Re: [GTALUG] exploring the keyboard [was: OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box]

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On Wed, 26 Oct 2022 at 13:36, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> Do you have a picture?

Here's a (hastily taken and cropped) photo of the actual keyboard for
this notebook.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UkuOAdxahQjU2uq9m_vc9e2E7OfzQTP-/view?usp=sharing

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Re: [GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

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On Tue, 25 Oct 2022 at 18:50, Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:
> Since it has the wrong shape enter key and the wrong shape left shift key,
> it is unusable for typing on.

But that has nothing to do with its usability from having a Canadian
English/French bilingual layout, unless they change the shape of the
enter and left shift keys for US standard layout keyboards on this
model.

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Re: [GTALUG] OK notebook at a good price: $300, refurb / open box

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On Sun, 23 Oct 2022 at 21:10, Stewart C. Russell via talk
 wrote:
> Currently only listed with Canadian French keyboards

It actually says "French Bilingual" keyboard, which is likely the
Canadian English/French bilingual layout. If it is, I consider this a
bonus. I have these on my desktop and most used laptop. With Ubuntu
Linux it defaults to English, with all key symbols matching a standard
US English keyboard and you can touch-type as such.

By simply pressing "Windows Key"+Space, it switches to French mode,
with the additional or alternative key symbols activated, giving easy
access to this whole range of symbols using the "Alt Gr" key. You
could touch-type if familiar with the Canadian French layout.

Another press of "Windows Key"+Space toggles back to English layout.
The current selection is shown on the status bar and can be selected
from there as an alternative.

https://superuser.com/questions/1308515/what-is-the-bilingual-canadian-keyboard-layout-pictured-and-how-do-i-use-it

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Tue, 11 Oct 2022 at 15:05, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Your background is not neuroplasticity,
>  so you have no reason to judge my requirements.

And respectfully, your background is not electronics or
electroacoustics. You do not seem to comprehend how speaker impedance
and sensitivity relates to distortion, frequency response and other
audio characteristics, since you somehow have ruled out USB headsets
based on what I and others have said.

I'm going to bow out of this conversation and wish you well in your endeavour.

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 20:35, Karen Lewellen  wrote:
> I am not buying anything  without firm confirmation of those figures.

Then you'd better have confirmation of the speaker impedance and
sensitivity requirements of the amplifier feeding the 3.5mm phone jack
in your Macbook. Do you have that information? Absolute Impedance and
sensitivity values mean nothing unless you know what values the
amplifier in the Macbook will accept and works best with.
Generalised value recommendations are only guidelines.

With a USB headset, you can be assured that the impedance and
sensitivity of the speakers are correct for its built in amplifier,
which is why there's no need to publish them.

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 19:08, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> 

And I will reiterate that that article, and anything to do with
impedance and sensitivity is only relevant to analogue headsets that
(for this discussion) plug into a computer or phone's headphone
jack(s).

Any audio played by a computer will have been digitised. It will then
have to be fed to a digital to analogue converter (DAC), which feeds
an analogue amplifier. The amplifier will drive the speakers in the
headset.

For analogue (headphone jack) headsets, the DAC and amplifier are in
the computer/phone and the headset only contains the speakers. For USB
headsets the DAC, amplifier and speakers are all in the headset.

Because a USB headset contains both the amplifier and speaker, you
don't have to worry about matching the speakers' impedance and
sensitivity to the amplifier. The manufacturer will have done this as
part of the design.

This is an advantage of USB headsets. Given the same digitised audio
sample, the headset will sound the same no matter what device you've
plugged it into and is feeding that audio because it's going through
the same DAC, amplifier and speakers. With an analogue headset, the
same audio sample will go through a different DAC and amplifier in
each device before going to the speakers, so it could sound different
on each device.

Once you've found a USB headset that you like, you can be sure it will
sound the same, given the same digital audio source, no matter what
you've plugged it into that's providing that source.

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 19:08, D. Hugh Redelmeier via talk
 wrote:
> "Scott's" is the deal Scott Allen posted

And actually it was Giles Orr who posted the deal. I only followed up
saying I also had the headset (Logitech H390) that Giles posted about.

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 17:51, Karen Lewellen via talk  wrote:
> Actually with this pair, the USB plug in is not the deal breaker. its the
> lack of any impedance information, and the sensitivity.

With USB headsets, the impedance and sensitivity of the speakers is
not something that you have to be concerned about. The headset will
have its own internal amplifier circuitry powered by the 5 volts
provided by the USB port. This amplifier will be designed for and
matched to the impedance, sensitivity and frequency response of the
speakers.

It's different for analogue headsets, which plug into a computer's
phone connector type jack(s). In this case, the amplifier is in the
computer and so the impedance, sensitivity and frequency response of
the headset's speakers will affect how well the amplifier works with
them and thus have a bearing on the sound quality and volume range.

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Re: [GTALUG] wired headset suggestions?

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On Mon, 10 Oct 2022 at 16:16, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
> https://www.amazon.ca/gp/product/B000UXZQ42/ - Logitech H390

I have the same and like them. The microphone quality for speech is
the best of numerous headsets I have, even quite expensive ones. One
problem I've found, after using them for a few years, is that the thin
"imitation leather" plastic covering the foam on the headband has
started to deteriorate and flake off.

> - the volume control on the chord works well on Mac - not sure if it
> works on Linux although I think it does

Yes, the volume control works with Linux (Ubuntu, at least) although
that's true for all USB and Bluetooth headsets I've tried. The mute
button also works but that is a local function, it doesn't send a
"mute" command over USB, so there's no indication on the computer that
mute has been activated.

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Re: [GTALUG] every time I log in to google or ebay from Fedora they think that it is the first time

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On Wed, 22 Jun 2022 at 18:07, Lennart Sorensen
 wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 21, 2022 at 08:08:59PM -0400, Scott Allen via talk wrote:
> > On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 20:04, Lennart Sorensen via talk  
> > wrote:
> > > After all without a cookie, there is no way to remember anything in the 
> > > browser.
> > Sure there is.
> Now are there in fact storage methods the website can access other than
> cookies to determine who you are?

You didn't specify server access, just that the browser can remember
something for a site. The others aren't readily accessible by a
website but I don't see why it couldn't be done with CGI, maybe along
with HTTP POST or GET. That's not to say anyone is doing it but they
could.

> And do any of them work if you actually enabled deleting cookies on close?

Yes, data saved using some of the other methods isn't erased when
cookies and data are cleared.

https://css-tricks.com/a-primer-on-the-different-types-of-browser-storage/

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Re: [GTALUG] every time I log in to google or ebay from Fedora they think that it is the first time

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On Tue, 21 Jun 2022 at 20:04, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> After all without a cookie, there is no way to remember anything in the 
> browser.

Sure there is.

https://betterprogramming.pub/the-different-types-of-browser-storage-82b918cb3cf8

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Re: [GTALUG] Package Manager upgrades on Linux

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On Tue, 8 Mar 2022 at 15:59, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
> So my questions (yes, there are questions here): does anyone know of
> other package management systems?

For a time (long ago) I used Gentoo Linux as my main O/S. It uses
their own system called Portage. The primary command is emerge.

Gentoo is a "rolling release" system where everything is (at least was
when I used it) compiled from source when it's installed. It's
certainly not fast but very flexible, configurable and efficient.

https://www.gentoo.org/

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Re: [GTALUG] Man and Info Pages

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On Thu, 6 Jan 2022 at 11:28, Giles Orr via talk  wrote:
> I open a man page, I scroll - done.  I opened the
> man page because I wanted to learn about the command whose man page I
> opened - I don't want to have to learn about 'info' before I can learn
> about any other command ...

Well, you do have to learn about 'less' or whatever pager 'man' is
using on your system (default or specified).

However, I agree. I never liked using 'info', mostly for the same
reasons you've given.

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Re: [GTALUG] Free Weller soldering tips

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 19:59, William Park  wrote:
> Every time tip makes contact, there was "click" inside.

The clicks you hear (and feel) are from the magnetic switch mechanism
in the shaft moving back and forth due to being drawn to, and released
from, the slug in the tip as the slug becomes magnetic and
non-magnetic when it goes below and above (respectively) the rated
temperature. This switch controls power to the heating element in the
shaft that heats the tip.

You have some types that I don't, so as I said, if nobody else wants
them, I'll gladly pay the postage to mail them to me.

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Re: [GTALUG] Free Weller soldering tips

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On Tue, 5 Oct 2021 at 15:13, William Park via talk  wrote:
> While cleaning up, I found soldering tips for Weller soldering iron.

Those tips appear to be for the old TCP series Weller irons. If they
have a number, such as 6, 7 or 8 stamped on the back end, then they
are. Temperature is controlled by the tips themselves. The slug at the
back changes from magnetic to non-magnetic when it reaches its curie
temperature. This controls a magnetically activated switch in the
iron's shaft to maintain the temperature. The number on the tip
indicates its nominal operating temperature 6=600 degrees Fahrenheit ,
7=700 F, 8=800F, etc.

These tips won't work in (newer) Weller irons that aren't designed to
work this way.

I have several TCP type Weller irons. I take them if nobody else wants them.

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Re: [GTALUG] ot: headphone jac replacement?

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On Wed, 21 Apr 2021 at 15:47, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> Makes me wonder if a short 3.5mm extension cord would be worth adding
> so you can leave it attached all the time, and plug into the end of the
> extension instead, and hence move the wear to that location instead and
> spare the poor old machine itself.

I could be wrong but from what I've gathered so far, there are no
broken wires or wear on the contacts in the jack itself. The only
problem is that the nut or threaded ring, that mounts the jack to the
chassis, has come loose. It just needs to be screwed back on and
tightened. It has been suggested that Loctite or some other similar
substance be added to the thread, to prevent this problem from
happening in the future.

I don't think Karen has said whether the plug is frequently inserted
and removed from the jack or not.

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Re: [GTALUG] Has the graphics-card world gone mad?

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On Tue, 30 Mar 2021 at 14:53, Kevin Cozens via talk  wrote:
> The ads used to say "Life's Good". I always thought that is what
> the letters stood for.

They likely used the tagline hoping people would think that. It helps
disassociate LG from Lucky Goldstar, since Goldstar was considered by
many to be a low end brand.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LG_Corporation

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Re: [GTALUG] interesting article on FreeBSD kernel almost getty dangerous code

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On Mon, 29 Mar 2021 at 15:40, James Knott via talk  wrote:
> While I haven't used it much, OpenWRT isn't in the same class as
> pfsense.

From what I found with a quick web search, it looks like DHCPv6-PD can
be handled by wide-dhcpv6, maybe along with dnsmasq, so any
distribution supporting these might be able to handle it.

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Re: [GTALUG] micro controllers

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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 16:43, Scott Allen  wrote:
> On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 15:40, Kevin Cozens via talk  wrote:
> > The Arduino boards I've seen always(?) have ATmega328's on them.
>
> Nope.

I almost forgot; Arduino have announced an upcoming board based the
the RP2040 MCU used on the Raspberry Pi Pico

https://blog.arduino.cc/2021/01/20/welcome-raspberry-pi-to-the-world-of-microcontrollers/

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Re: [GTALUG] micro controllers

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On Tue, 16 Feb 2021 at 15:40, Kevin Cozens via talk  wrote:
> The Arduino boards I've seen always(?) have ATmega328's on them.

Nope.

Arduino Leonardo, Arduino Micro: ATmega32U4 (AVR)

Arduino Mega 2560: ATmega2560 (AVR)

Arduino Zero: Atmel SAMD21 (ARM Cortex M0+)

Arduino Due: Atmel SAM3X8E (ARM Cortex M3)

Third party boards with other MCUs supported in the Arduino environment:

ESP8266 and ESP32

ST Micro STM32 series

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Re: [GTALUG] dsl modem ideas for bell?

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On Fri, 9 Oct 2020 at 09:35, Lennart Sorensen via talk  wrote:
> When I got VDSL2 installed, they put a splitter where it entered the
> house and ran one wire to the modem and the rest of the phone jacks in
> the house to the filtered side.

The same for my mother's house, when recently upgraded from 6/1 to
15/10 speeds. (Although, I ran the separate wire for the modem myself
in anticipation of the upgrade.)

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Re: [GTALUG] Blockchain, the solution to nothing

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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 09:38, ac via talk  wrote:
> As you said "almost all others" it certainly is not any? console users,

So you're doing this for the benefit of a small percentage of readers
that use a console based mail reader without threading or subject
grouping capability? Also, there are the archives available for
viewing by thread, or if you've deleted a message you wish to review.
https://gtalug.org/pipermail/talk/
It works fine from a console using lynx.

Anyway, you can reply if you wish, but this will be my last.

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Re: [GTALUG] Blockchain, the solution to nothing

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On Thu, 27 Aug 2020 at 07:25, ac via talk  wrote:
> Not trimming the original post simply states that imnsho the
> quality is high enough that you can read it again.

Your post's header included a reference to the message you were
replying to. My mail reader (and almost all others) groups threads
using these references, as well as by the title. If I felt your "+1"
gave me a reason to re-read the original, I could easily go back and
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