RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions
Hi, By any chance, do you have an audio tutorial of this autohotkey software? Because one script that I really need is to configure the right alt+gr key as regular right alt key that works exactly similar to the left alt key. I know that you can do something like this by mess up with the registry, but I do not like to dig into that sensitive registry. Thank you, Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 17:55 To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi rick, I think the person you are looking for was me. I explained how some apps could change the function of the keyboard and in some cases add functionality to it. My personal favorite it AutoHotKey. There are others of course, but this one just happens to be my personal favorite. Not only do I use it to remap keys at times but I also use it to launch my favorite programs with a quick press of a hot key. For example windows+alt+w launches window-eyes windows+alt+n starts NVDA windows+shift+w start winamp and so on. It makes my life a lot faster. Another nice thing is once you got it setup the way you want you can simply compile the script and send it along to your friends. They don't even need to have AutoHotKey installed. Hth Note if you are looking for something simpler then a little scripting program that will do everything you want let me know and I will see what I can dig up. I did use another program for this function years ago. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:58 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micallef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Backspace keys and the function key isn't working
Hi, After pressing f8 to start selection, Window-eyes should say, selection start. You then navigate without using the shift key to where you want to end selection. Press f8 again. A dialog box comes up...Press enter on the copy button. Note: This method only works when in Browse mode and using Window-eyes 9 or above. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:26 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Backspace keys and the function key isn't working Good afternoon everyone, When I try using function F8 key to select either a character or word, that keystroke won’t work, even if I press it a few times. Also my backspace key doesn’t work either. I have my key layout set for a laptop computer. I even tried using the control shift 0 too disable the insert key layout, but have h no success with this method either. message. had no success. If there is an experienced windoweyes user on this list that would be willing to call me, It would be a real help. My phone number is as follows. 212 (366-6748) If someone should call and I’m not available to answer, just leave me a message on my voice mail with the best time of either the day, or evening when I can return your call. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Download 9.1 as a File to be run later
Hi, You can't select where the file goes using help/check for updates. However, from the run dialog, type %temp% and hit enter. You can find the file there and copy it somewhere else. It would be something like we91upgrade.exe Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of net bat via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 12:55 AM To: Chris Skarstad; via Talk Subject: Re: Download 9.1 as a File to be run later i am talking about when you use the w e help pull down to check for updates. when the upgrades are downloaded this way they are saved in the temp folder and i have not found any way to choose which folder i want to download the files to useing this method. -Original Message- From: Chris Skarstad Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 8:51 PM To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Download 9.1 as a File to be run later The only case when this wouldn't be true is if he chose a specific folder for downloading files, as I have. I created a folder called downloads, and everything I download goes in there. but, a search for the file should find it no matter where it is. On 4/24/2015 11:33 PM, net bat via Talk wrote: the file does not delete from the temp folder when you turn off the computer. i installed the 9.1 upgrade when it first came out and it is still in my temp folder. i moved it to another folder today. i have files in there from 2012 that have not been deleted. -Original Message- From: Carol and Roger via Talk Sent: Friday, April 24, 2015 7:48 PM To: Dave ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: Re: Download 9.1 as a File to be run later If you have not turned off the PC where you made your original download, you might be able to find the temporary copy in your temp folder. On 4/24/2015 8:36 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: Hello, Yesterday, I purchased the Upgrade to 9.1. I did download it on to my Win 7 system, and it is what I am using today. However, I have a lap top that will not hook up to the Inter net. Is there any way to download this Upgrade as a file, copy it to a Flash drive, and then run the Upgrade install on the Lap top? I did not see a chance to download the Upgrade as a file to be run later. I had gone into Window eyes Menu and under Help, had chose, Check for updates. At that point, the Download started and I never had the chance to save it to disc, rather than install it.Or if I did I blew my chance and am still Clueless as how to do what I need for the lap top. Any advise? Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/carogsmith%40embarqmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/netbat%40comcast.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/rascal0826%40verizon.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit
RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi David and everyone, While I certainly appreciate reading this thread, and clearly there is a lot of energy on this matter of keyboards and their use with screen readers, I would like to say that there is no need for any serious concern about losing the functionality of the Numpad and therefore the functionality of Window-Eyes. This is because any function currently assigned to the Numpad keys can be assigned to other key combinations in the WE control panel. Also, regarding keyboards which happen to include a Numpad and yet do not include a NumLock key, I would guess that if the manufacturer was simply providing the Numpad to make numeric input easier, that manufacturer probably didn't make those keys unique in the codes they pass on to Windows when pressed. In other words, taking the number 5 on the Numpad as an example, my guess is that it would send the same key code to Windows as woudd be sent to Windows by pressing the number 5 on the Qwerty area of the keyboard; therefore, there would be no uniqueness about the Numpad numbers, and also there would be no alternate functions on the Numpad number keys, that is, that uniqueness we're used to when we turn NumLock off. In short, we will need to get used to the idea that we are going to have to use whatever keys are available to get our screen reader tasks completed, and perhaps we'll have to use more key combinations like Control-Shift-T, which we're all used to anyway. In truth, as long as we have keyboards which work at all, we'll be able to control Window-Eyes. Smile All the best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:26 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark' Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Rick and the rest, This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than, has popped up around USB NumPads. Rick, how much we would love a list provided, for all keyboards on the market, and their compatibility, it will never work. I am going to deal with but a couple of reasons, some of them likely brand new to some of you. First of all, it is true, some keyboards need hardware specific drivers. Even Microsoft has a line of keyboards, which will need drivers, particularly designed for the keyboard to work fully. In some cases, the driver has a menu, or some sort of a control panel, to setup the exact behavior. For instance, my one Microsoft keyboard here, comes with a set of Quick keys, for launching your favorite net browser, your standard Email client, your desirable music player and so forth. Trouble is, the control panel provided by the driver, simply is useless with a screen reader, due to a totally graphical interface. Another Microsoft keyboard I have, is somehow doable to program, since the control panel for setting it up, is partially labelled with text on the screen.In both cases, should you decide you don't want to change the quick keys and their standard (default) behavior, you can run both these keyboards as plug-and-play. Plug them in, and enjoy the standard features, including an app-key, a numlock key, and standard behavior of the numeric keypad. My one Logitech keyboard, does not have a right-hand windows key, but does have an application key. My one Dell laptop has no app-key, no right windows key, but has an FN-key. The wireless keyboard I am on at this instance, has an app-key, a numlock-key, but has no Ctrl-key on the right hand, only on the left - which cause certain keystrokes no longer possible as one-handed strokes. What puzzles, is that all these keyboards are told - from the manufacturer and advertisers - to be standard keyboards. Might be worth to notice, that a desktop keyboard is considered standard, when it has anything between 101 and 105 keys, and that is except from quick-keys and multimedia keys. My point here is, that there is a literal jungle of manufacturers, and it would be hard to determine if each and everyone of them keeps to a full standard. Even one and same manufacturer may have different keyboards, often with more or less identical names and model numbers. As already described above, my two Microsoft keyboards, are somehow different in accessibility. And the history of some other users, buying three different Dell keyboards, before they landed on one that could do, will tell the same point quite well. A list of functional keyboards, should it take into consideration only the hardware, leaving the driver, control panel or other software for the keyboard out of the story? I did ask the local dealer of WE here, as well as the former GW staff, why they did not sell USB NumPads, which would have greatly increased the functionality of laptops. The answer I got both places, may well enough apply in the case of why they don't sell full keyboards either.
RE: speaking of Dell computers...
Hello Rick: I understand your frustration. It is amazing the number of posts dedicated to this subject. Yet, I did not see this topic mentioned during any of the Version 9 beta testing, despite the fact that Dell eliminated this key as far back as 2012. As a developer, I understand the difficulty of keeping up with hardware changes. Some computer vendors change their hardware platform more frequently than some people change their underware! A company this size of AI Squared (and GW Micro cannot possibly keep up with the plethora of computer vendors and their offers. In addition, vendors like Dell offer several keyboard choices when purchasing their computers. It is quite possible that AI Squared was not aware of this problem until this flurry of postings. We should give them the benefit of the doubt and hope that they can provide some update that deals with the situation. In the mean time, there are several workarounds to consider. Gor those upgradiong from an older computer, using the keyboard from the previous computer should suffice. If a static setting is desired, BIOS or registry setting should be sufficient. And if toggling is needed, the on screen keyboard provided in the accessability options will work, albeit kludgy. At least you have a hockey game to listen to. Here in the Northeast, the Bruins taked at the end of the season and eliminated themselves from the playoffs. Rick Blair -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+softwarethatworks=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 6:00 PM To: 'Stephen Clark'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: speaking of Dell computers... Hi Steve: It is incumbent on a piece of software to work with a given platform including operating systems and, in the case of a screen reader, the keyboard which is the primary interface for their clients and the only thing they have to use the features of the software. A simple list of manufacturers and hardware that works well with WindowEyes might be the easiest and least costly solution. Also, a list of settings for various other gotchyas like audio cards should also be available for the more common choices a WindowEyes client may make. This needs to be available on a WebPage and not burried in some technical, or many technical, articles requiring a long search effort by a new user and available before a user buys a new machine with the intent of using WindowEyes on it. Just a part of having a professional piece of software and considering the target audience. Another choice would be to act as a ReSeller of compatible hardware and software products but I can see AI Squared selling at a much higher markup than other standard retailers and thus things costing us more. I give up. I don't run that company, am not in their management team nor do I sit on the Board so any further comments might be beetching the whale and I will just drop this thread and go listen to Red Wing Hockey and Ken and Paul call the game - smile. Later and have a good weekend! Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/softwarethatwo rks%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Num Lock
Apparently, Dell has been shipping keyboards for quite a while without the Num Lock key. The folling is a link to a posting about this issues dating back to 2012 and lasting for two years. However, there was never a satisfactory answer for toggling the function. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19476756?pi2195 3=1 Some suggestions given were to hold the Clear key down for two seconds and Num Lock would silently toggle. Further postings claimed this did not work for them. Another offered the key combination of Ctrl-Backspace, which others again found not to work. Registry and BIOS changes are also offered in the list, but these do not help for toggling the functionality, only for fixing it in one ore the other state. One suggestion was to open the onscreen keyboard and toggle the function using this. While this may be kludgy, it offers an alternative that could work in the short term. I did not realize the omission of this key. When I set up my wife's new Dell last December, I never used the included keyboard but just hooked it up to my existing keyboard and mouse. I did not like the feel of the new keyboard (too mushy). Maybe I'll call Dell and see what they have to say since the computer is still under warranty. Since the computer was purchased under their small business division, maybe the support results may be different than their home support. Rick Blair -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+softwarethatworks=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 5:29 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Num Lock Hi: OK, so we can either set the applications key function using auto hot key or use shift and f10 and that is ok. Now, why not have a WE setting in the control panel to lock the num lock setting and perhaps a hot key combo to toggle it? Using the f10 key would then become the default WE Applications key and the num lock could be toggled easily or set in the WE Control Panel. Just a thought on what seems an easy fix to a potential major headache for WE Users who get confused with the newer keyboards not having these keys. WE should work with modern technologies out of the box and this would eliminate these 2 problems me thinks. Searching for non-standard modern or outdated keyboards is not a good thing to force your clients into having to do to use your product when it is not necessary at all with minimal programming effort. Neither is having clients required to load up and use someone elses software like auto hot key - they should be able to buy the product, turn it on and use it - not turn it on and hope they can figure out some way to fix it before even using it. At least from the prior postings this would seem to be the case. Does this make sense or am I missing something? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/softwarethatwo rks%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
remapping keys in autohotkey
On 27/04/2015 4:06 PM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: Hi, Maybe there is an audio tutorial for autohotkey in existence but have never heard of it. An example of remapping a key is below. Turn on all punctuation to get the most out of the line. The symbol for the alt key is !. The following has been taken from my auto hot key macro file. AppsKey::RWin ; remaps the apps key on the right of my spacebar to a ; right windows key. you could try: R!gr::! /; HTH Neville. By any chance, do you have an audio tutorial of this autohotkey software? Because one script that I really need is to configure the right alt+gr key as regular right alt key that works exactly similar to the left alt key. I know that you can do something like this by mess up with the registry, but I do not like to dig into that sensitive registry. Thank you, Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 17:55 To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi rick, I think the person you are looking for was me. I explained how some apps could change the function of the keyboard and in some cases add functionality to it. My personal favorite it AutoHotKey. There are others of course, but this one just happens to be my personal favorite. Not only do I use it to remap keys at times but I also use it to launch my favorite programs with a quick press of a hot key. For example windows+alt+w launches window-eyes windows+alt+n starts NVDA windows+shift+w start winamp and so on. It makes my life a lot faster. Another nice thing is once you got it setup the way you want you can simply compile the script and send it along to your friends. They don't even need to have AutoHotKey installed. Hth Note if you are looking for something simpler then a little scripting program that will do everything you want let me know and I will see what I can dig up. I did use another program for this function years ago. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:58 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micallef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nevx008%40optusnet.com.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For
RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
No actually the num-pad five sends a completely different code then number 5 on the intermedia pad. This is how programs like winamp know if you have issued a number 5 on the num-pad or not. That being said keyboard codes are keyboard codes and they don't change from device to device. They don't even change from operating system to operating system. Wether or not the operating system supports the codes is the question. For example IOS does not support the codes from the numpad and so they are completely ignored. There is no need for any list or anything like that. If you are missing keys redefining another key that you are not using is quite simple and a good salution to the problem. Another salution to the problem in the case of the num-lock is a utility that will turn it on or off. This utility could be placed in the startup section of your operating system and would set the state of num-lock. This quite frankly is much to do about nothing. It has been a problem that has been with us for years as I have already outlined and the work arounds for it are well know and understood. Hth -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rod Hutton via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:43 AM To: 'David'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Hi David and everyone, While I certainly appreciate reading this thread, and clearly there is a lot of energy on this matter of keyboards and their use with screen readers, I would like to say that there is no need for any serious concern about losing the functionality of the Numpad and therefore the functionality of Window-Eyes. This is because any function currently assigned to the Numpad keys can be assigned to other key combinations in the WE control panel. Also, regarding keyboards which happen to include a Numpad and yet do not include a NumLock key, I would guess that if the manufacturer was simply providing the Numpad to make numeric input easier, that manufacturer probably didn't make those keys unique in the codes they pass on to Windows when pressed. In other words, taking the number 5 on the Numpad as an example, my guess is that it would send the same key code to Windows as woudd be sent to Windows by pressing the number 5 on the Qwerty area of the keyboard; therefore, there would be no uniqueness about the Numpad numbers, and also there would be no alternate functions on the Numpad number keys, that is, that uniqueness we're used to when we turn NumLock off. In short, we will need to get used to the idea that we are going to have to use whatever keys are available to get our screen reader tasks completed, and perhaps we'll have to use more key combinations like Control-Shift-T, which we're all used to anyway. In truth, as long as we have keyboards which work at all, we'll be able to control Window-Eyes. Smile All the best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:26 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark' Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Rick and the rest, This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than, has popped up around USB NumPads. Rick, how much we would love a list provided, for all keyboards on the market, and their compatibility, it will never work. I am going to deal with but a couple of reasons, some of them likely brand new to some of you. First of all, it is true, some keyboards need hardware specific drivers. Even Microsoft has a line of keyboards, which will need drivers, particularly designed for the keyboard to work fully. In some cases, the driver has a menu, or some sort of a control panel, to setup the exact behavior. For instance, my one Microsoft keyboard here, comes with a set of Quick keys, for launching your favorite net browser, your standard Email client, your desirable music player and so forth. Trouble is, the control panel provided by the driver, simply is useless with a screen reader, due to a totally graphical interface. Another Microsoft keyboard I have, is somehow doable to program, since the control panel for setting it up, is partially labelled with text on the screen.In both cases, should you decide you don't want to change the quick keys and their standard (default) behavior, you can run both these keyboards as plug-and-play. Plug them in, and enjoy the standard features, including an app-key, a numlock key, and standard behavior of the numeric keypad. My one Logitech keyboard, does not have a right-hand windows key, but does have an application key. My one Dell laptop has no app-key, no right windows key, but has an FN-key. The wireless keyboard I am on at this instance, has an app-key, a numlock-key, but has no Ctrl-key on
RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions
Check SharpKeys at http://www.randyrants.com/category/sharpkeys/ There are decent directions on the site which should let you know if it will do what you need. Use it carefully. I have remapped the CapsLock key to function as a Control key, the LeftControl to serve as an Alt key and the LeftAlt to serve as the CapsLock. This makes it easier to use the frequent Control-Arrow(s) key combination for cursor movement by word, etc. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:06 AM To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi, By any chance, do you have an audio tutorial of this autohotkey software? Because one script that I really need is to configure the right alt+gr key as regular right alt key that works exactly similar to the left alt key. I know that you can do something like this by mess up with the registry, but I do not like to dig into that sensitive registry. Thank you, Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 17:55 To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi rick, I think the person you are looking for was me. I explained how some apps could change the function of the keyboard and in some cases add functionality to it. My personal favorite it AutoHotKey. There are others of course, but this one just happens to be my personal favorite. Not only do I use it to remap keys at times but I also use it to launch my favorite programs with a quick press of a hot key. For example windows+alt+w launches window-eyes windows+alt+n starts NVDA windows+shift+w start winamp and so on. It makes my life a lot faster. Another nice thing is once you got it setup the way you want you can simply compile the script and send it along to your friends. They don't even need to have AutoHotKey installed. Hth Note if you are looking for something simpler then a little scripting program that will do everything you want let me know and I will see what I can dig up. I did use another program for this function years ago. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:58 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micall ef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% 40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or
RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Also, you could buy a second keyboard with a NumLock key. Many are quite inexpensive. Even with my notebook, I use an external keyboard whenever I can. Here's a post on this where someone on a Dell forum wrote about this concern. One of the responses reads as follows: You could attach any usb keyboard you want--wired or wireless. You don't have to use the kb dell sent. I always use my own keyboard and save the basic dell one as an extra. http://en.community.dell.com/support-forums/desktop/f/3514/t/19476756 -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 6:38 AM To: 'Rod Hutton'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'; 'David' Subject: RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Hi Rod: There are standard codes generated by input devices and required at the Operating System level. This means that using quote standard unquote key combinations should be a safe option for years to come. I don't know enough to get into the codes nor standards but I know they exist and that a keyboard manufacturer designs it to work with an Operating Systems input device requirements in that respect. The elimination of some keys from the mix causes a problem as well defined in prior postings. That said, ReDefining the keys that are going to be in question to some more traditional keys like combinations of the control, shift and other grammar keys should be an option - at least for single country usage and targeted to a particular Operating system unless I am missing something. It can be done by AI Squared or by each client individually using some third party software but, from prior postings, it can be done easily enough so long as the client is educated in creating scripts or in using third party software to modify hardware / software configurations - not my first choice but one that should work if that is how WE Users want to roll. Anyway, this seems to be the most likely solution after everyone pounding out various ideas. If I buy a new system I will just ask folks what keyboards they are using, name and model, so long as there are still good choices out there before coding something up. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/richard.petty% 40earthlink.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions
Thanks I will take a look at this. Note even though windows 8 is not directly spoken of here it should work because the registry system for the keyboard has not changed. Thanks again I will check this out. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Richard Petty via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 4:54 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Check SharpKeys at http://www.randyrants.com/category/sharpkeys/ There are decent directions on the site which should let you know if it will do what you need. Use it carefully. I have remapped the CapsLock key to function as a Control key, the LeftControl to serve as an Alt key and the LeftAlt to serve as the CapsLock. This makes it easier to use the frequent Control-Arrow(s) key combination for cursor movement by word, etc. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+richard.petty=earthlink@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 1:06 AM To: 'Jim Grimsby JR.'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi, By any chance, do you have an audio tutorial of this autohotkey software? Because one script that I really need is to configure the right alt+gr key as regular right alt key that works exactly similar to the left alt key. I know that you can do something like this by mess up with the registry, but I do not like to dig into that sensitive registry. Thank you, Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 17:55 To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi rick, I think the person you are looking for was me. I explained how some apps could change the function of the keyboard and in some cases add functionality to it. My personal favorite it AutoHotKey. There are others of course, but this one just happens to be my personal favorite. Not only do I use it to remap keys at times but I also use it to launch my favorite programs with a quick press of a hot key. For example windows+alt+w launches window-eyes windows+alt+n starts NVDA windows+shift+w start winamp and so on. It makes my life a lot faster. Another nice thing is once you got it setup the way you want you can simply compile the script and send it along to your friends. They don't even need to have AutoHotKey installed. Hth Note if you are looking for something simpler then a little scripting program that will do everything you want let me know and I will see what I can dig up. I did use another program for this function years ago. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:58 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micall ef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views
RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
Hi Rod: There are standard codes generated by input devices and required at the Operating System level. This means that using quote standard unquote key combinations should be a safe option for years to come. I don't know enough to get into the codes nor standards but I know they exist and that a keyboard manufacturer designs it to work with an Operating Systems input device requirements in that respect. The elimination of some keys from the mix causes a problem as well defined in prior postings. That said, ReDefining the keys that are going to be in question to some more traditional keys like combinations of the control, shift and other grammar keys should be an option - at least for single country usage and targeted to a particular Operating system unless I am missing something. It can be done by AI Squared or by each client individually using some third party software but, from prior postings, it can be done easily enough so long as the client is educated in creating scripts or in using third party software to modify hardware / software configurations - not my first choice but one that should work if that is how WE Users want to roll. Anyway, this seems to be the most likely solution after everyone pounding out various ideas. If I buy a new system I will just ask folks what keyboards they are using, name and model, so long as there are still good choices out there before coding something up. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: remapping keys in autohotkey
Hi: Also, for ajnyone who is looking for a tutorial on using Autohotkey, the documentation and the examples which come wtith the package are easy enough to follow, at least that's how I learned to use it. Kevin Huber On 4/27/15, Neville via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: On 27/04/2015 4:06 PM, Micallef Michael at FITA via Talk wrote: Hi, Maybe there is an audio tutorial for autohotkey in existence but have never heard of it. An example of remapping a key is below. Turn on all punctuation to get the most out of the line. The symbol for the alt key is !. The following has been taken from my auto hot key macro file. AppsKey::RWin ; remaps the apps key on the right of my spacebar to a ; right windows key. you could try: R!gr::! /; HTH Neville. By any chance, do you have an audio tutorial of this autohotkey software? Because one script that I really need is to configure the right alt+gr key as regular right alt key that works exactly similar to the left alt key. I know that you can do something like this by mess up with the registry, but I do not like to dig into that sensitive registry. Thank you, Michael Micallef FITA Officer - Fita FITA MALTA INFORMATION TECHNOLOGY AGENCY Email: Office: Mobile: URL: michael.mical...@gov.mt +356 25992343 +356 79421278 http://www.mita.gov.mt Please read our Legal Notice: http://emailpolicy.mita.gov.mt Kindly consider your environmental responsibility before printing this e-mail -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+michael.micallef=gov...@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Jim Grimsby JR. via Talk Sent: Sunday, 26 April 2015 17:55 To: 'Rick Thomas'; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi rick, I think the person you are looking for was me. I explained how some apps could change the function of the keyboard and in some cases add functionality to it. My personal favorite it AutoHotKey. There are others of course, but this one just happens to be my personal favorite. Not only do I use it to remap keys at times but I also use it to launch my favorite programs with a quick press of a hot key. For example windows+alt+w launches window-eyes windows+alt+n starts NVDA windows+shift+w start winamp and so on. It makes my life a lot faster. Another nice thing is once you got it setup the way you want you can simply compile the script and send it along to your friends. They don't even need to have AutoHotKey installed. Hth Note if you are looking for something simpler then a little scripting program that will do everything you want let me know and I will see what I can dig up. I did use another program for this function years ago. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Rick Thomas via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 7:58 AM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/michael.micallef%40gov.mt. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/nevx008%40optusnet.com.au. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at
Re: Num Lock
Hi: So, if there is to be a setting in the Window-eyes control panel to unlock the numlock, as rick said, this setting would also have to remap the number keys on the number pad to perform the alternate numberpad functions, I don't even know if this would be possiblee. Kevin Huber On 4/25/15, Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi: OK, so we can either set the applications key function using auto hot key or use shift and f10 and that is ok. Now, why not have a WE setting in the control panel to lock the num lock setting and perhaps a hot key combo to toggle it? Using the f10 key would then become the default WE Applications key and the num lock could be toggled easily or set in the WE Control Panel. Just a thought on what seems an easy fix to a potential major headache for WE Users who get confused with the newer keyboards not having these keys. WE should work with modern technologies out of the box and this would eliminate these 2 problems me thinks. Searching for non-standard modern or outdated keyboards is not a good thing to force your clients into having to do to use your product when it is not necessary at all with minimal programming effort. Neither is having clients required to load up and use someone elses software like auto hot key - they should be able to buy the product, turn it on and use it - not turn it on and hope they can figure out some way to fix it before even using it. At least from the prior postings this would seem to be the case. Does this make sense or am I missing something? Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: What Was The Name Of The software To Change Key Functions
Hi Rick: Another one that I have tried and liked is Sharpkeys. You do not need to write code or creat a script to change the function of one or more keys on your keyboard. You can learn more about it from: www.randyrants.com/sharpkeys. Kevin Huber On 4/26/15, Rick Thomas via Talk talk@lists.window-eyes.com wrote: Hi: I remember a posting about a program that let one change the function of keys on a keyboard but couldn't find it in my list of deleted items folder in outlook under what I thought the subject line was. If you posted the message, or remember the name of the program that allows for changing keyboard functions for individual keystrokes could you post it up again? I did look at many, many messages in my outlook folder but just cant find that message. Rick USA ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/huber.kevin7%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: AMD chips and Window eyes?
Hi there Dave! I have had several AMD systems and I started with W.E.5.5 and now I am on 9.1 and I have had no problems at all with W.E. I would suggest giving the AMD a serious try and I think you will like it! Good Luck! de Kf8LTwohlg...@gma9il.comJim Wohlgamuth. On 27-Apr-15 20:40, Dave via Talk wrote: Hello, As I am looking for another System, I thought I would ask the List, if any here use a computer than has an AMD Chip, and if so, do you suffer any strange behaviour because of it? How does Window eyes work with the AMD Chips. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/wohlggie%40gmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: AMD chips and Window eyes?
yes I am using a a10 with no problems, that I can lay at the dor of the chip. I have been using these chips for years and they work just fine. Hth -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+jgrimsby=roadrunner@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Dave via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 5:40 PM To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com Subject: AMD chips and Window eyes? Hello, As I am looking for another System, I thought I would ask the List, if any here use a computer than has an AMD Chip, and if so, do you suffer any strange behaviour because of it? How does Window eyes work with the AMD Chips. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/jgrimsby%40roa drunner.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: AMD chips and Window eyes?
Hi, I use an amd chip on my laptop, and intel quad core on my desktop, and I don't see any difference. The problem I find is using WE9.1 with specific programs. I also recommend getting your computer from a store, like Costco, that will return your money for any reason. Good luck, Manny On 4/27/2015 2:40 PM, Dave via Talk wrote: Hello, As I am looking for another System, I thought I would ask the List, if any here use a computer than has an AMD Chip, and if so, do you suffer any strange behaviour because of it? How does Window eyes work with the AMD Chips. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/mauiman01%40hotmail.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
AMD chips and Window eyes?
Hello, As I am looking for another System, I thought I would ask the List, if any here use a computer than has an AMD Chip, and if so, do you suffer any strange behaviour because of it? How does Window eyes work with the AMD Chips. Thanks, Dave ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers...
It is also good to keep in mind that the laptop layout together with using the CAPSLOCK key as the Window-Eyes key works pretty well. I really don't understand why some of the changes to keyboards have been made, but such things appear to be a part of life, and there are many things about the world I don't understand. smile In addition, so much of what a keyboard does is software, even if it is firmware inside of a keyboard, it really does not work to relate one's experiences with one model of keyboard or computer to another, except as something is worth trying in case it works. At least to my way of thinking, anything we can resolve within Window-Eyes is going to be preferrable to adding a third party piece of software. Something like AutoHotKey is very powerful and can do a lot more than just remap keys, and that may have some real value in some cases. If you don't need that power, though, it is just one more variable that may not work the same when you upgrade Windows or Window-Eyes. I got buy without using the laptop layout for a long time because my old Dell had an imbedded numeric pad using the FN key and the letters under the right hand. My newer HP does not support an imbedded numeric pad and it does not have a separate numeric pad. That finally made me try the laptop layout and it has become pretty second nature. Sometimes we can spend more time trying to figure out how not to change than it would take to adjust to the change. smile In saying that, though, of course I recognize that there may be specific situations when some other solution is necessary, but keep an open mind to changing layouts within Window-Eyes. Best regards, Steve Jacobson On Mon, 27 Apr 2015 06:42:34 -0400, Rod Hutton via Talk wrote: Hi David and everyone, While I certainly appreciate reading this thread, and clearly there is a lot of energy on this matter of keyboards and their use with screen readers, I would like to say that there is no need for any serious concern about losing the functionality of the Numpad and therefore the functionality of Window-Eyes. This is because any function currently assigned to the Numpad keys can be assigned to other key combinations in the WE control panel. Also, regarding keyboards which happen to include a Numpad and yet do not include a NumLock key, I would guess that if the manufacturer was simply providing the Numpad to make numeric input easier, that manufacturer probably didn't make those keys unique in the codes they pass on to Windows when pressed. In other words, taking the number 5 on the Numpad as an example, my guess is that it would send the same key code to Windows as woudd be sent to Windows by pressing the number 5 on the Qwerty area of the keyboard; therefore, there would be no uniqueness about the Numpad numbers, and also there would be no alternate functions on the Numpad number keys, that is, that uniqueness we're used to when we turn NumLock off. In short, we will need to get used to the idea that we are going to have to use whatever keys are available to get our screen reader tasks completed, and perhaps we'll have to use more key combinations like Control-Shift-T, which we're all used to anyway. In truth, as long as we have keyboards which work at all, we'll be able to control Window-Eyes. Smile All the best, Rod -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+rod_hutton=hotmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of David via Talk Sent: Sunday, April 26, 2015 1:26 PM To: Rick Thomas; Window-Eyes Discussion List; 'Stephen Clark' Subject: Screen Reader compatible Keyboards. Was: Re: speaking of Dell computers... Rick and the rest, This discussion, altogether reminds me the one that every now and than, has popped up around USB NumPads. Rick, how much we would love a list provided, for all keyboards on the market, and their compatibility, it will never work. I am going to deal with but a couple of reasons, some of them likely brand new to some of you. First of all, it is true, some keyboards need hardware specific drivers. Even Microsoft has a line of keyboards, which will need drivers, particularly designed for the keyboard to work fully. In some cases, the driver has a menu, or some sort of a control panel, to setup the exact behavior. For instance, my one Microsoft keyboard here, comes with a set of Quick keys, for launching your favorite net browser, your standard Email client, your desirable music player and so forth. Trouble is, the control panel provided by the driver, simply is useless with a screen reader, due to a totally graphical interface. Another Microsoft keyboard I have, is somehow doable to program, since the control panel for setting it up, is partially labelled with text on the screen.In both cases, should you decide you don't want to change the quick keys and their standard (default) behavior, you can run both these keyboards as plug-and-play. Plug them in, and enjoy the
RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words
What is the difference between regular and advanced? Veronica -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:52 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words Hey, Bob. The show advanced options item is in the Window-Eyes help menu. With the WE control panel open, press Alt-H, V and that will check the menu item. As for your second question. In the Window-Eyes settings tree view in the keyboard voice node, tab twice and that will put you on the voice combo box. Admittedly, I haven't played with these settings much, but I don't think there's a way to make WE speak only when a punctuation mark is typed. The on with words function will say words after the space bar is pressed--that much I remember. hth, Lou N. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:03 PM To: Talk Subject: 2 Questions Advanced and words 1. How do I turn on advanced settings on Window-Eyes? 2. Where do I change it from saying each letter as I type, to having WE only say a word after puncionation? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwal%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/veronica.smith%40aps.edu. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words
Hi, When you have advance options disabled (when you install Window-eyes fresh) you only get a small number of features displayed in the Window-eyes control panel. If you enable advance options you have access to every feature in Window-eyes from within the control panel. For example default you have 7 items in the settings tree, when advance is on you have 13. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Smith, Veronica via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 12:09 PM To: fender...@sbcglobal.net; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words What is the difference between regular and advanced? Veronica -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+veronica.smith=aps@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 2:52 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: RE: 2 Questions Advanced and words Hey, Bob. The show advanced options item is in the Window-Eyes help menu. With the WE control panel open, press Alt-H, V and that will check the menu item. As for your second question. In the Window-Eyes settings tree view in the keyboard voice node, tab twice and that will put you on the voice combo box. Admittedly, I haven't played with these settings much, but I don't think there's a way to make WE speak only when a punctuation mark is typed. The on with words function will say words after the space bar is pressed--that much I remember. hth, Lou N. -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+fenderwal=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of Robert Ringwald via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 18, 2015 3:03 PM To: Talk Subject: 2 Questions Advanced and words 1. How do I turn on advanced settings on Window-Eyes? 2. Where do I change it from saying each letter as I type, to having WE only say a word after puncionation? ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/fenderwal%40sb cglobal.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/veronica.smith%40aps.edu. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
Re: Backspace keys and the function key isn't working
Sorry, but I couldn't delete the subjectline. Why don't you put the address to send messags to the list in the messages? Anyway; I have a different problem. I managed to run malwarebytes, and I managed to find the place where it has the log, and it also says quarentine. But when I went to look at the log, it just says numbers, like 1 1, 2 2 3 3 etc. How do I read the log? I accidentally downloaded something that makes my tab key not work when in websites, and that interrupts me with commercials for stuff. I want to get rid of that, but I can't find what it's called. Pam. -Original Message- From: Chris Grabowski via Talk Sent: Monday, April 27, 2015 3:32 AM To: albertcut...@verizon.net ; Window-Eyes Discussion List Subject: RE: Backspace keys and the function key isn't working Hi, After pressing f8 to start selection, Window-eyes should say, selection start. You then navigate without using the shift key to where you want to end selection. Press f8 again. A dialog box comes up...Press enter on the copy button. Note: This method only works when in Browse mode and using Window-eyes 9 or above. Chris Window-Eyes Product Support Ai Squared 725 Airport North Office Park Fort Wayne, IN 46825 (802) 362-3612 www.aisquared.com -Original Message- From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+cgrabowski=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf Of via Talk Sent: Saturday, April 25, 2015 3:26 PM To: 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' Subject: Backspace keys and the function key isn't working Good afternoon everyone, When I try using function F8 key to select either a character or word, that keystroke won’t work, even if I press it a few times. Also my backspace key doesn’t work either. I have my key layout set for a laptop computer. I even tried using the control shift 0 too disable the insert key layout, but have h no success with this method either. message. had no success. If there is an experienced windoweyes user on this list that would be willing to call me, It would be a real help. My phone number is as follows. 212 (366-6748) If someone should call and I’m not available to answer, just leave me a message on my voice mail with the best time of either the day, or evening when I can return your call. ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/cgrabowski%40aisquared.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/geodom%40optonline.net. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com ___ Any views or opinions presented in this email are solely those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of Ai Squared. For membership options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/options.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com/archive%40mail-archive.com. For subscription options, visit http://lists.window-eyes.com/listinfo.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com List archives can be found at http://lists.window-eyes.com/private.cgi/talk-window-eyes.com
