There are at least four ways that screen readers determine what to speak in most cases Windows tells the screen reader that something happened on a window then then the screen reader asks the program

[Jonathan C. Cohn via Talk]

Jonathan Cohn 

> On Feb 27, 2016, at 10:24 PM, Manny via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi,
> Sharing my specific problems to get feedback and perhaps someone can find the 
> missing link to this problem.
> copy of emails between tech support and myself:
> WE9.3 stops talking with Firefox, I. E. 11, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, and 
> Scottrade Elite.
> In the case of the Scottrade Elite, here is a copy of the technical problem, 
> causing WE9.3 to stop speaking, as per tech support:
> 
> ""I got your Window-Eyes process dump analyzed this morning. The issue, 
> unfortunately, appears to be related to ScottTrade and UIA. Window-Eyes has 
> queried ScottTrade for information  about the UIA element underneath the 
> mouse pointer, and   ScottTrade never replies, leaving Window-Eyes hung,  
> waiting for a response."
> I spoke to Bill Holden, who is having the same issue with the Elite, and he 
> says that he does not lose speech when using Jaws.
> He said that in jaws he has to manually change from one mouse to another when 
> right clicking the mouse.
>  I hope this info helps find a solution."..."
> 
> 
> The fact that WE9.3 needs to ask a question This very confusing to me.
> Why would a screen reader need to ask a question to a program, when it's 
> function is to read the screen?
> More importantly, are all the other programs where WE9.3 is losing speech 
> being caused by the same problem?
> I.e., WE9.3 is asking a question and the program is not responding?
> 
> 
> 
> Stay well,
> Manny
> 
> A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:
> 
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> explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for return."
> 
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> computer specs:
> Window Eyes 9.3,
> Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
> with 8 gb RAM, IntelQuad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 1066 MHz 
> drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and Driver Booster, 
> which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that Driver Booster is a 
> great program.
> Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 12, 
> Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, Malware 
> Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,
> Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag
> 
> On 2/25/2016 3:12 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> > Oh good!  That will make me so happy!  Pam.
> >
> > -Original Message- From: Steve Clower via Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:56 AM
> > To: Marten Post Uiterweer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> > Subject: RE: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?
> >
> > Are you using a Braille display by any chance? If so, this problem has been 
> > resolved for the next Window-Eyes update which should be out within the 
> > next week.
> >
> > Steve
> >
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Talk 
> > [mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> > Of Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk
> > Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:51 AM
> > To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> > Subject: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?
> >
> > Hi,
> >
> > Many times, when I go on my win7 32bit computer with IE11 to a site
> > [www.p-u.demon.nl in this case].
> > I tab to the link: brltty, press context key and arrow up to:
> > copy shortcut
> > Before I have reached this item, WE will crash. Will no longer talk.
> >
> > This happens allmost every time.
> > Yes, I have Internet download manager installeed and this is a addon in
> > internet explorer, but this program is working well.
> >
> > And when I use Nvda, there is no problem.
> >
> > Marten
> >
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Re: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not? Answer? Window-Eyes has queried ScottTrade for information about the UIA element underneath the mouse pointer, and ScottTrade never replies, leaving Wi

[Manny via Talk]

Hi,
Sharing my specific problems to get feedback and perhaps someone can 
find the missing link to this problem.

copy of emails between tech support and myself:
WE9.3 stops talking with Firefox, I. E. 11, Fritz 12, Chessbase 11, and 
Scottrade Elite.
In the case of the Scottrade Elite, here is a copy of the technical 
problem, causing WE9.3 to stop speaking, as per tech support:


""I got your Window-Eyes process dump analyzed this morning. The issue, 
unfortunately, appears to be related to ScottTrade and UIA. Window-Eyes 
has queried ScottTrade for information  about the UIA element underneath 
the mouse pointer, and   ScottTrade never replies, leaving Window-Eyes 
hung,  waiting for a response."
I spoke to Bill Holden, who is having the same issue with the Elite, and 
he says that he does not lose speech when using Jaws.
He said that in jaws he has to manually change from one mouse to another 
when right clicking the mouse.

  I hope this info helps find a solution."..."


The fact that WE9.3 needs to ask a question This very confusing to me.
Why would a screen reader need to ask a question to a program, when it's 
function is to read the screen?
More importantly, are all the other programs where WE9.3 is losing 
speech being caused by the same problem?

I.e., WE9.3 is asking a question and the program is not responding?



Stay well,
Manny

A THOUGHT FOR TODAY:

"May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting, 
to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for 
return."


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808-268-0787

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checkout my live performance -- -- -- -- -- - --
please help me reach a million clicks by forwarding my stand-up comedy 
performance to your friends, or Tweet or Facebook it. **

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computer specs:
Window Eyes 9.3,
Dell xps420 Windows 7 home premium, with dual boot to windows 10,
 with 8 gb RAM, IntelQuad core Processor Q6600 (8M Cache, 2.40 GHz, 
1066 MHz drivers and software updated automatically with Ninite and 
Driver Booster, which sighted assistance is needed, but other than that 
Driver Booster is a great program.
Recommended software: Firefox, Thunderbird, Google Chrome, Winamp, Fritz 
12, Chessbase 11, MS Office 2010 security: Microsoft security essential, 
Malware Bytes pro, Win Patrol, Roboform,

Maintenance: C-cleaner, Ultra Defrag

On 2/25/2016 3:12 PM, Pamela Dominguez via Talk wrote:
> Oh good!  That will make me so happy!  Pam.
>
> -Original Message- From: Steve Clower via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:56 AM
> To: Marten Post Uiterweer ; Window-Eyes Discussion List
> Subject: RE: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?
>
> Are you using a Braille display by any chance? If so, this problem 
has been resolved for the next Window-Eyes update which should be out 
within the next week.

>
> Steve
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk 
[mailto:talk-bounces+sclower=aisquared@lists.window-eyes.com] On 
Behalf Of Marten Post Uiterweer via Talk

> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 11:51 AM
> To: talk@lists.window-eyes.com
> Subject: Why will Window-Eyes crash, but Nvda not?
>
> Hi,
>
> Many times, when I go on my win7 32bit computer with IE11 to a site
> [www.p-u.demon.nl in this case].
> I tab to the link: brltty, press context key and arrow up to:
> copy shortcut
> Before I have reached this item, WE will crash. Will no longer talk.
>
> This happens allmost every time.
> Yes, I have Internet download manager installeed and this is a addon in
> internet explorer, but this program is working well.
>
> And when I use Nvda, there is no problem.
>
> Marten
>
>
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case solved

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

I don't know what I did, but I found File Explorer--right where it 
should be. I just kept pressing Escape and the left long bar at the 
bottome of the machine. Very weird indeed. So if anyone answers my 
previous query, it still might be useful info.


Peace.
Linette


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Re: the case of the missing file explorer

[Manny via Talk]

Hi Linet,
I find that the best way for me to find my downloads is from the browser 
itself.

In firefox, I just press control j
and I arrow through the list of downloads.
When I find the file I want, I press the context key and select
open containing folder, and I just open it
or cut
and paste it to where I want the file to live.
Stay well,
Manny

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"May we all find comfort and courage to love without regard for parting, 
to explore without regard for pitfalls, and to give without regard for 
return."


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On 2/27/2016 2:22 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:
>
> If this isn't a relevant topic, I apologize. I was searching for some 
downloaded Bookshare files in various places. Now, when I tab after the 
computer comes on and Window-Eyes announces itself, I don't see File 
Explorer right after the Task Bar/Start Menu. What could I have done? 
I'm guessing that there's some little tweak that will fix this.

>
> Peace.
> Linette
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Re: clarification

[RJ Sandefur via Talk]

What version of windows are you using? RJ

On 2/27/2016 7:27 PM, Linette Sukup via Talk wrote:


The first item that is spoken after I tab is Start Menu List Box Task 
Bar. Next, I am seeing Downloads rather than File Explorer.

I hope that this isn't confusing.

Peace.
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clarification

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

The first item that is spoken after I tab is Start Menu List Box Task 
Bar. Next, I am seeing Downloads rather than File Explorer.

I hope that this isn't confusing.

Peace.
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the case of the missing file explorer

[Linette Sukup via Talk]

If this isn't a relevant topic, I apologize. I was searching for some 
downloaded Bookshare files in various places. Now, when I tab after the 
computer comes on and Window-Eyes announces itself, I don't see File 
Explorer right after the Task Bar/Start Menu. What could I have done? 
I'm guessing that there's some little tweak that will fix this.


Peace.
Linette


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RE: Adobe 11 in new window

[Marc Solomon via Talk]

Hi Barbara, 
I think you are having trouble finding the correct add on. The add-on manager 
in internet explorer is a pretty difficult interface to work with. If you would 
like some one on one help, maybe you can try calling the Microsoft disability 
answer desk. They should be able to assist you with this process.
Regards, 
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On February 27, 2016 5:36:24 PM Barbara  wrote:

> Hi Marc,
>
> OK I did what this reference says, but I do not really understand.  When I
> go into Tools, then manage add ons, I have the toolbar and extensions
> checked.  The next tab has 4 choices.  I have tried all 4 choices with the
> same results.  There are 6 items listed in the following field.  Only the
> first one says produced by Adobe.  However it is saying shockwave flash by
> Adobe.  It does not say Adobe reader.  This is enabled.  This does not sound
> like the same as in the article on your link below.  Also I find it
> interesting that the article does not mention Internet explorer 11.  OK
> maybe the steps have not changed, maybe they have.  What do you think?
>
> Barbara
>
>
>
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+batterseye=sbcglobal@lists.window-eyes.com] On
> Behalf Of Marc Solomon via Talk
> Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:11 PM
> To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
> Subject: Re: Adobe 11 in new window
>
> Hi Barbara, 
> It looks like you have to Disable the Adobe Reader Add-on in IE. Here is a
> support article with the specifics:
> https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html
> .
> Regards, 
> Marc
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> On February 25, 2016 9:49:54 PM Barbara via Talk
>  wrote:
>
>> Hello Everyone,
>>
>> I have Adobe XI.  I have Internet Explorer 11.  When I want to open a PDF
> at
>> an internet site, I want this to open in a different window.  I looked
>> around in the Adobe settings without finding how to make this happen.  I
>> have looked on the internet, but all the information is for earlier
> versions
>> of IE.  Please explain how to make this change.
>>
>> Thanks in advance for any help.
>>
>> Barbara
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RE: I'm back!

[Sky Mundell via Talk]

Hi RJ. Welcome back!  I use Windows 7 64-bit and Window-Eyes and it is a
great product!

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Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 2:26 PM
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Subject: RE: I'm back!

Hi Rj, welcome back. I am also using windows 10 and window-eyes and it is
great. Window-eyes is the best screen reader on the planet. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 
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Subject: I'm back!

Hay guys! This is RJ Sandefur from Florida, and I'm back! I'm using windows
ten with window eyes, and I'm loving it! RJ
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RE: Adobe 11 in new window

[Barbara via Talk]

Hi Marc,

OK I did what this reference says, but I do not really understand.  When I
go into Tools, then manage add ons, I have the toolbar and extensions
checked.  The next tab has 4 choices.  I have tried all 4 choices with the
same results.  There are 6 items listed in the following field.  Only the
first one says produced by Adobe.  However it is saying shockwave flash by
Adobe.  It does not say Adobe reader.  This is enabled.  This does not sound
like the same as in the article on your link below.  Also I find it
interesting that the article does not mention Internet explorer 11.  OK
maybe the steps have not changed, maybe they have.  What do you think?

Barbara




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Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 9:11 PM
To: Window-Eyes Discussion List 
Subject: Re: Adobe 11 in new window

Hi Barbara, 
It looks like you have to Disable the Adobe Reader Add-on in IE. Here is a
support article with the specifics:
https://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/11/using/display-pdf-browser-acrobat-xi.html
.
Regards, 
Marc

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On February 25, 2016 9:49:54 PM Barbara via Talk
 wrote:

> Hello Everyone,
>
> I have Adobe XI.  I have Internet Explorer 11.  When I want to open a PDF
at
> an internet site, I want this to open in a different window.  I looked
> around in the Adobe settings without finding how to make this happen.  I
> have looked on the internet, but all the information is for earlier
versions
> of IE.  Please explain how to make this change.
>
> Thanks in advance for any help.
>
> Barbara
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RE: I'm back!

[kenny Peyatt jr. via Talk]

Hi Rj, welcome back. I am also using windows 10 and window-eyes and it is
great. Window-eyes is the best screen reader on the planet. 

Kenny Peyatt jr. 
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Hay guys! This is RJ Sandefur from Florida, and I'm back! I'm using 
windows ten with window eyes, and I'm loving it! RJ
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I'm back!

[RJ Sandefur via Talk]

Hay guys! This is RJ Sandefur from Florida, and I'm back! I'm using 
windows ten with window eyes, and I'm loving it! RJ

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Re: Update Warning

[kitty hevener via Talk]

Joseph, thanks for the tip about GWX control panel.  I installed and have 
not seen get windows 10 messages since.


-Original Message- 
From: Joseph Norton via Talk

Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 6:45 AM
To: 'Dennis Long' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Kevin Barry'
Subject: RE: Update Warning

Hi Dennis:

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and don't want to be forced to upgrade to
Windows 10, this program will stop the automatic download and installation
of Windows 10 and also let you know if the "Get Windows 10" app is present
and let you remove those things.

So, if you are comfortable with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, this tool will help
you decide when, or whether to upgrade to Windows 10.

As far as I know, you may not need to be as concerned after July 29, as
MicroSoft is going to charge for updating to Windows 10 after that, so, I
doubt they will push it as heavily at that point.

If you want to download this tool, you can get it from:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

There are both an installer and a stand-alone executable that you can just
run if you don't like installers.

The advantage of installing the product is that it can watch your system and
warn you if MicroSoft begins pushing Windows 10 to you.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:12 AM
To: 'Kevin Barry' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk

wrote:


your full of it.
i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i
will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your
account and you get denied access to your own account and files you
created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re
format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest
there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag
behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few
are w e accessible.
periphials and software?
for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i
would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live
mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things
on the screen with the mouse.
microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still
not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you
can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is
full access to this?
i do not have a microsoft account
and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out
the door.
i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any
control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the
whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.

-Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil

Pries'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its
time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better
platform then
7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
Thast a much better solution then anything else.

-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf
Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion
List 
Subject: Re: Update Warning

Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
Pam.

-Original Message-
From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
To: t...@window-eyes.com
Subject: Update Warning

Hi,
The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2

dtimes.

This is the third time I have hidden it.
It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my 

Re: major thunderbird problems

[Rick Jarvis via Talk]

I am not sure what is happening with tb for you but I have had no 
problems and I am using the latest tb, and win-eyes 9.3.1  I am also 
using windows 10 64 bit.  I am not sure why you are having problems but 
you might want to call for tech help.  Rick


On 2/24/2016 11:13 PM, Jed Barton via Talk wrote:

guys, i can not deeal with this thunderbird problem.  There hss to be
something wrong.  It's virtually unusable.  Even after someone suggested
i downgrade, it's no better, in fact it's even worse.  I'll start typing
a message, and it just says stuff like no frame, not a valid key press.
  The only way to fix it is to turn browse mode off.  Why should i ahve
to do that, cause then i can't edit anything unless i turn browse mode
back on.  Why would it do this.  I'm typing best, i'm not even on a web
page.  Is anyone else having these issues with TB?Guy
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Re: Accessibility in Office 365-progress in 2015 and plans for 2016

[Darrell Bowles via Talk]

I have read those. Hopefully we see something good fast.

Sent from my iPhone

> On Feb 26, 2016, at 9:26 PM, Rod Hutton via Talk  
> wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone,
> 
> As the subject line suggests, I just thought you may be interested in reading 
> about Microsoft's progress in the realm of accessibility:
> 
> http://bit.ly/1R8Qbaj
> 
> All the best,
> 
> Rod
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RE: Update Warning

[Joseph Norton via Talk]

Hi Dennis:

If you have Windows 7, 8 or 8.1 and don't want to be forced to upgrade to
Windows 10, this program will stop the automatic download and installation
of Windows 10 and also let you know if the "Get Windows 10" app is present
and let you remove those things.

So, if you are comfortable with Windows 7, 8, or 8.1, this tool will help
you decide when, or whether to upgrade to Windows 10.

As far as I know, you may not need to be as concerned after July 29, as
MicroSoft is going to charge for updating to Windows 10 after that, so, I
doubt they will push it as heavily at that point.

If you want to download this tool, you can get it from:

http://ultimateoutsider.com/downloads/

There are both an installer and a stand-alone executable that you can just
run if you don't like installers.

The advantage of installing the product is that it can watch your system and
warn you if MicroSoft begins pushing Windows 10 to you.

Hope this helps.


-Original Message-
From: Talk
[mailto:talk-bounces+joseph.norton=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com] On
Behalf Of Dennis Long via Talk
Sent: Saturday, February 27, 2016 1:12 AM
To: 'Kevin Barry' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List'

Subject: RE: Update Warning

What will it stop?  Is it for windows 7 or windows 10?

-Original Message-
From: Talk [mailto:talk-bounces+dennisl1982=gmail@lists.window-eyes.com]
On Behalf Of Kevin Barry via Talk
Sent: Thursday, February 25, 2016 1:52 AM
To: net bat ; Window-Eyes Discussion List

Subject: Re: Update Warning

download and install the free GWX control panel from ultimate outsider. It
stops all of this nonsense


On Thursday, February 25, 2016, net bat via Talk

wrote:

> your full of it.
> i have not had any access denied to my account with windows 7 and i 
> will stay with it until 2020 when support ends.
> win 10 is not better when it keeps changeing permissions on your 
> account and you get denied access to your own account and files you 
> created or installed. twice i could not boot the system and had to re 
> format and start over because i was denied access to my account.
> this has happened 3 times with  a upgrade and with 2 clean re installs.
> i got locked out of my own account and i could only log in as a guest 
> there is still many places in windows 10 where window eyes will lag 
> behind, lose speech or not speak at all.
> apps? there hasn't been a singl app that i am interested in and few 
> are w e accessible.
> periphials and software?
> for get it. there is no drivers for my 1 year old dell printer. i 
> would have to upgrade openbook i would not be able to use windows live 
> mail which is totally accessible for me without haveing to find things 
> on the screen with the mouse.
> microsoft wants us to use the windows 10 mail program which is still 
> not accessible. they are changeing the protocalls for email so you 
> can't use windows wlive mail,hot mail etc. with a microsoft account.
> the un accessible edge browser? how long will it be before there is 
> full access to this?
> i do not have a microsoft account
> and if this will be the only choice i have the computer will go out 
> the door.
> i refuse to put everything in the cloud where i would not have any 
> control over stopping hackers from getting my  personal information.
> with everyones info being stored on just one microsoft server the 
> whole pc worlds personal info could be hacked at one fel swoop. no thanks.
>
> -Original Message- From: Gary Melconian via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:20 PM
> To: 'Pamela Dominguez' ; 'Window-Eyes Discussion List' ; 'Pastor Gil
Pries'
> Subject: RE: Update Warning
>
> No matter you are going ot get windows 10. Guys face the facts its 
> time oto move on from windows 7 or 8 to windows 10. It's a much better 
> platform then
> 7 or 8 eve was. Best world the best o 7 and 8.1 comined into windows 10.
> Thast a much better solution then anything else.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Talk
> [mailto:talk-bounces+garymelc=msn@lists.window-eyes.com] On Behalf 
> Of Pamela Dominguez via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 8:51 PM
> To: Pastor Gil Pries ; Window-Eyes Discussion 
> List 
> Subject: Re: Update Warning
>
> Yes, I have heard it comes back.  They are really trying to push it on us.
> Pam.
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Pastor Gil Pries via Talk
> Sent: Wednesday, February 24, 2016 9:04 AM
> To: t...@window-eyes.com
> Subject: Update Warning
>
> Hi,
> The update, KB3035583, came back in my update list after I hid it 2
dtimes.
> This is the third time I have hidden it.
> It put the Get Windows 10 icon in my systray.
> Once I uninstalled it the icon is gone again.
> Thought you all would like to know.
>
> Pastor Gil
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