date:20150310

Congratulations, there are now more than two million registered
OpenStreetMap editing api accounts.

Let's all survey pur neighbourhoods today and see how much we can improve.

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[Talk-es] Academias de idiomas

2015-03-10 Thread Paúl Sanz

Hola: iba yo tan tranquilo a incluir una academia de idiomas en la que
ha empezado a trabajar una conocida y me encuentro con que no hay
ninguna etiqueta que cubra estos establecimientos. Se me ha ocurrido
usar amenity=school y school=language, pero solo hay 9 usos de
esta última.
¿Alguna sugerencia?

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Re: [Talk-it] no track !

2015-03-10 Thread Max1234Ita

Alessandro Barbieri wrote
 Il 09/03/2015 17:03, girarsi_liste ha scritto:

 Se non sei sicuro usa highway=road, vale a dire non classificabile.
 road è temporaneo e vuol dire non so classificarlo ma va classificato.
 
 This is intended as a temporary tag to mark a road until it has been 
 properly surveyed. Once it has been surveyed, the classification 
 should be updated to the appropriate value. 


+1

IMHO va benissimo /track/, oppure /service/, se sai a cosa serve quella
specifica strada.

/surface=*/ serve per definire che tipo di terreno troverai percorrendola
(asfalto, ghiaia, sterrato, ecc., con il tag jolly /unpaved/ ad indicare
-se ho ben capito anch'io- una strada genericamente non-rivestita da uno
strato di materiale duro, da specificarsi meglio in seguito)

/path/ si riferisce ad un generico percorso non utilizzabile da mezzi a
motore (ok piedi, bici, slitta e dorso di mulo, secondo il Wiki). Potrebbe
forse andar bene anche nel caso in discussione, ma bisognerebbe accertarsi
che ci siano dei cartelli specifici (oppure, previo survey, vrificare che i
mezzi a motore non possano effettivamente transitarvi (ad es. per via del
terreno impervio).

Ciao,
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Re: [OSM-ja] JOSMが動かない(api.openstreetmap.org/api/capabilitiesアクセス出来ず)

2015-03-10 Thread Satoshi IIDA

いいだです。

先ほどから、データアップロードのAPIの調子が悪いようです。
僕もタイムアウトします。
昨日も、OWGメンバーがデータセンター入りしていたようですし、
しばらく待ったほうがよいかもしれません。

なお、緊急メンテ等の情報は以下のTwitterアカウントで流されることが多いです。

https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech




2015年3月10日 21:08 ribbon o...@ns.ribbon.or.jp:

 JOSMのバージョンが新しくなり、入れ替えてみました。
 そのせいなのか確認出来てませんが、

 JOSMは次のリソースにアクセスしようとしました。
  ・ https://api.openstreetmap.org/api/capabilities
 しかし、次のネットワークエラーで失敗しました。
  ・ java.netSocketTimeoutException: connect timed out
 プロキシ設定が行われていない可能性があります。
 プロキシ設定を変更しますか?

 というエラーが出て、JOSMが動きません。

 ;; ANSWER SECTION:
 api.openstreetmap.org.  600 IN  A   193.63.75.99
 api.openstreetmap.org.  600 IN  A   193.63.75.100
 api.openstreetmap.org.  600 IN  A   193.63.75.103

 なので、上記3つが接続先なのですが、全部pingは届きます。

 バージョンアップで設定変更しなければならないことあるのでしょうか?


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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-03-10 Thread Martijn van Exel

Bryce - that is a good point. When a note gets resolved, we have the ideal
opportunity to engage the casual contributor who is kind enough to leave a
note that is good enough for someone to act on. Unfortunately we cannot
(easily?) do that the way notes are set up right now. At Telenav we go
around that problem by adding a service layer between the notes and the
user. When someone submits feedback with Scout, it goes to that service
layer, which then determines if it's 'good enough' and posts it to OSM as a
note. It keeps track of the OSM status of the note, and gets back to the
Scout user when it gets resolved in OSM. (I wrote about this in my diary,
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/mvexel/diary/28208).

This system is tailored to our specific use case but it would not be too
hard (famous last words) to add this to 'native' OSM by asking folks to
(optionally) leave their email address so we can keep them apprised of its
status.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 11:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:



 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 5:47 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:

 Less notes should not be an objective, smarter ways to look at them and
 process them should.
 I agree, simplicity rules.

 Some ideas to manage the overkill.


 While we can build better tools to process large numbers of notes, the one
 thing we can't
 do under the current system is ask the person who wrote the note for more
 information.  There's (usually)
 just one chance to collect that information.  And when the map is updated,
 is an excellent time to draw
 people back to OSM for a second look (so they can take pride in having
 contributed).

 For both reasons I think that getting more contact information outweighs
 simplicity.




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Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

On Mar 8, 2015 10:43 PM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 It's time for Mappy Hour tomorrow! I changed the time slot to 11am
Pacific / 2pm Eastern,

Thanks for organizing these, Martijn. They're fun. :-)
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Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Fairhurst

Dave F. wrote:
 On Richard F. cycle.travel routing. How do reset  start again?

There's a Close route button at the top of the turn-by-turn directions -
click that and it'll clear the route.

cheers
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[Talk-ca] Manitoba Snowmobile trails

2015-03-10 Thread Sam Dyck

Hi everyone

We have a user (IndyGord) who imported and has been updating the official
organized snowmobile routes, which is great. Unfortunately he doesn't do a
very good job. The trails ignore existing infrastructure and intersect
highways without an intersecting node, which leads to things like this (
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=18/49.44774/-96.25508 the snowmobile
trails are tagged as paths, everything else is a track) and has caused
problems with bike and foot routing throughout the province.

I attempted to fix this by converting the trails into a relation and
changing those routes accessible by other means of transportation into
tracks. Paths that could not be used by anything except snowmobiles (i.e.
they cross open water) were tagged foot=no and bicycle=no. I initially did
trail 29 (http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/4651257) but decided to
look for feedback before proceeding. I sent a message to IndyGord on the
6th, but I haven't got a response.

So I am looking for feedback on my conversion of trail 29 and any
suggestions for how to do the rest of the province. Additionally, thoughts
on how to reach out to IndyGord would be appreciated.

Sam
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[Talk-ca] Ottawa March Meetup

2015-03-10 Thread Richard Burcher

Hi folks,

Join us Friday March 26th at 7pm for our monthly meetup. Denis will be
giving a quick talk and demo on setting up a local Nominatim service for
geocoding.

Everyone is welcome, so drop by:)

Details here:
http://meetu.ps/2GSFby

Cheers,

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Re: [Talk-it] Ausili per mappare route in Josm

Per la continuità ho notato che Josm dà una indicazione già nella finestra di
modifica della relazione, quindi questo è già a posto.



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Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

2015-03-10 Thread Volker Schmidt

 Subject: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

 For example let's use parks. Both of the foot routers won't cross the
 park unless there's a specific path way. However, as users can wander
 about anywhere they like there are no marked paths, not even worn
 ground. (I would post an example but OSM has just gone down)


If I understand correctly that you want routing to cross a park as long as
the way in and the way out are connected to the perimeter of the park. This
is only correct in parks where you are free to walk anywhere. Most parks in
continental Europe do not work this way. Typically, but not always, you
have to stay on the paths.

To solve this, one needs possibly a new (?) tag for parks like
stay_on_path=yes|no
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Re: [Talk-it] Ausili per mappare route in Josm

2015-03-10 Thread Volker Schmidt

Per verificare la continuità puoi utilizzare http://ra.osmsurround.org/


2015-03-10 17:43 GMT+01:00 mircozorzo mircozo...@inwind.it:

 Ciao, vorrei mappare/controllare un itinerario, vorrei aprire la relazione
 e
 poterne scorrere i membri controllando in questo modo che ci sia
 continuità.
 E' un buon metodo? C'è un metodo migliore più veloce/automatico?
 Se è il migliore vorrei sapere se si può fare in modo che scorrendo i
 membri
 josm lo selezioni automaticamente e la finestra della mappa si sposti
 seguendo/zoomando sul membro selezionato di volta in volta. In altre parole
 vorrei poter scorrere con i tasti della tastiera i membri velocemente
 fintanto che la finestra tiene il focus sul membro di volta in volta
 evidenziato.

 Grazie.

 Ciao, Mirco



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Re: [OSM-talk] Routing across parks

2015-03-10 Thread Mike N


On 3/10/2015 12:56 PM, Volker Schmidt wrote:

If I understand correctly that you want routing to cross a park as long
as the way in and the way out are connected to the perimeter of the
park. This is only correct in parks where you are free to walk anywhere.
Most parks in continental Europe do not work this way. Typically, but
not always, you have to stay on the paths.

To solve this, one needs possibly a new (?) tag for parks like
stay_on_path=yes|no


I agree - there needs to be areas of general walk permission established 
before a router can include that area.


FYI - OpenTripPlanner includes some form of routing for 
highway=pedstrian areas.



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Re: [OSM-talk] High load on the rendering servers?

2015-03-10 Thread malenki

On Sun, 08 Mar 2015 15:45:29 +0100,
colliar wrote:

 Sounds like work for the editor software if the api is not capable to
 prevent moving a node hundreds of kilometres.

Even if the API rejects very long ways the editor needs a little work to
output a useful error message like precondition failed (just love that
one) to the user.

Thomas


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[OSM-talk-fr] Erreurs Osmose Fantoir place=

2015-03-10 Thread Cavok

Bonjour, je n'arrive pas à corriger les erreurs d'Osmose
*Objet de type FANTOIR non concordant avec un objet OSM*
FANTOIR B to W type is for locality, hamlet or isolated_dwelling

Ce sont des noms donnés à des petits quartiers d'une petite ville.

Au début javais mis
place=suburg

on m'a suggéré
place=neighbourhood
qui serait plus adapté dans ce cas.

J'ai bien peur que l'erreur pourrait venir d'Osmose qui pour les Fantoirs
de B à W n'accepte que locality, hamlet or isolated_dwelling.

Pensez vous qu'Osmose soit trop restrictif dans ces choix, ou en effet le
tag place=neighbourhood
n'est toujours pas adapté.
Que faudrait il mettre alors.

Pour voir de quoi il s’agit, les erreurs sont ici
http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr/fr/byuser/?username=Cavokld#

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Re: [OSM-talk] Cat Forest

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 3:02 AM, SomeoneElse li...@atownsend.org.uk wrote:

 The source of Cat Forest has been found:

 https://github.com/hotosm/learnosm/issues/335

 Thanks to the new mapper who explained which guide they were going through
 at the time.


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[Talk-it] Ausili per mappare route in Josm

Ciao, vorrei mappare/controllare un itinerario, vorrei aprire la relazione e
poterne scorrere i membri controllando in questo modo che ci sia continuità. 
E' un buon metodo? C'è un metodo migliore più veloce/automatico? 
Se è il migliore vorrei sapere se si può fare in modo che scorrendo i membri
josm lo selezioni automaticamente e la finestra della mappa si sposti
seguendo/zoomando sul membro selezionato di volta in volta. In altre parole
vorrei poter scorrere con i tasti della tastiera i membri velocemente
fintanto che la finestra tiene il focus sul membro di volta in volta
evidenziato.

Grazie.

Ciao, Mirco



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Re: [Talk-cz] Licence (zase)

2015-03-10 Thread Jan Martinec

On 03/10/2015 06:10 PM, Petr Vejsada wrote:
 Ahoj,
 
 google API to umí, viz 
 
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Maps_Example

No technicky to umí, což o to (zobrazí libovolnou mapovou vrstvu, když ji
dostane ve správným formátu). Jenom zrovna tenhle příklad je pro změnu v rozporu
s googlí licencí - ta vyžaduje neschovaný googlí logo a Podmínky užití bez
ohledu na to, co za dlaždice zobrazuje, prostě tím, že je to Google Maps API.


 takže problém bude s tím pluginem a v tom případě je pro provozovatele 
 nejjednodušší způsob, jak problém vyřešit, vypnout OSM

Teoreticky by se to dalo řešit _přidáním_ (c) OSM Contributors navíc k tomu
googlímu, ale...je to takovej licenční kočkopes a čert ví, jestli vůbec nějaký
legální řešení existuje. Takže jo, mapy od Googlu a OSM není úplně vhodný
kombinovat, opruzený z toho budou všechny strany.

Honza Piškvor Martinec

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Re: [OSRM-talk] arrive to destination on the adequate side in two-way streets

2015-03-10 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Mon, Mar 09, 2015 at 02:54:06PM -0300, Fernando Pacheco wrote:
 Hi all.
 
 We are developing an application for routing solid waste collection
 trucks. We use OSRM to calculate distances between collecting points
 (intermediate points).
 
 Some customers are located in two-way streets (simple, no separators)
 ... How can I say to OSRM that must arrive to the collecting points at
 the adequate side of the street? That is, on the side where the client
 is, without crossing the opposite direction of the street to access the
 load.
 
 Is it possible?. Thanks in advance. Fernando.

I had the immediate idea of taking the dataset and duplicated all
non-oneway streets (only the way) and making it 2 oneways. 

I am unshure now how to tell osrm you want to end up on a specific 
way (not location) which is geometrically identical to the other.


Another idea - create small fake ways via postgis etc from the nearest
road to your collection point near the street and add a fake turn
restriction from the road ( only_right_turn ). 


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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread stevea


Russ Nelson writes:

For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER data.


I agree.  Interstates are largely there, state highways are 
getting there, rail is underway now, and a lot of lesser 
streets and highways are cleaned up.   But there remain substantial 
TIGER deserts, and much TIGER data are pretty darn noisy:  downright 
inaccurate (but we do seem to agree, better than nothing).


Who remembers Operation Cowboy?!  We are now kind of doing something 
like that with rail (in a very loose way with 
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_States_railways), 
but TIGER data in general just need serious and sustained attention 
until consensus emerges that they don't.  That seems a long way off 
so let's do our best to roll up our sleeves and identify how and 
where this might happen.


SteveA
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Re: [Talk-es] Academias de idiomas

2015-03-10 Thread Jonas Andradas

Hola,

a mí me parece más elegante quizá la opción del tag amenity=training y
training=*  (en este caso, language).  Lo que intentaría buscar es
alguna etiqueta que permita definir los idiomas que se imparten en la
academia, pero ahí ya no sé si sería mejor usar la fórmular de indicarlo
con separadores con :, para permitir que una academia tenga varios
idiomas, o cuál sería la mejor forma... algo así como
language:es=yes,language:en=yes, etc.

Un saludo,

Jonás.

2015-03-10 15:31 GMT+01:00 Miguel Sevilla-Callejo miguel.sevi...@uam.es:

 Hola,

 Hace mucho tiempo me encontré con este problema y tras mucho darle vueltas
 por la wiki llegué a otra solución:
 amenity=training
 training=languaje

 No me pregunteis cómo llegué a esa conclusión pero me pareció la más
 correcta a pesar de no encontrar muchos usos. Y es que en el fondo una
 academia de idiomas (esto no es exactamente eso pero me valía) no es muy
 diferente de una autoescuela, en la que se usa amenity=training y pensé (o
 vi, ya no me acuerdo) que esa combinación podía ser interesante.

 aquí el nodo en cuestión:
 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2430285941
 No tiene renderizado por cierto...

 Ya diréis qué solución os parece más adecuada.

 ... encontré mi referencia:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training

 M

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 http://bit.ly/sevillacallejo

 2015-03-10 14:22 GMT+01:00 Ander Pijoan ander.pij...@deusto.es:

 Pensaba que existía language_school. Pero mirando taginfo parece que no:

 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=language_school#values

 Y shcool=language está en las mismas:

 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/school=language

 No lo tengo nada claro pero creo que igual sería mejor
 amenity=language_school ya que poniendo amenity=school + school=language
 igual la gente busca amenity=school y se creen que es una escuela? No lo
 sé, a ver si alguien más opina algo.



 El 10 de marzo de 2015, 14:13, Paúl Sanz paulsanzca...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Hola: iba yo tan tranquilo a incluir una academia de idiomas en la que
 ha empezado a trabajar una conocida y me encuentro con que no hay
 ninguna etiqueta que cubra estos establecimientos. Se me ha ocurrido
 usar amenity=school y school=language, pero solo hay 9 usos de
 esta última.
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Re: [Talk-cz] Licence (zase)

2015-03-10 Thread Petr Vejsada

Ahoj,

google API to umí, viz 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Maps_Example

nebo z nedávné doby z praxe

http://www.vyletsepsem.cz/pridat-vylet

takže problém bude s tím pluginem a v tom případě je pro provozovatele 
nejjednodušší způsob, jak problém vyřešit, vypnout OSM

Dne Út 10. března 2015 10:04:11, Marián Kyral napsal(a):

 turistika.cz - stejný problém:
 
 http://www.turistika.cz/mapy/ceska-republika#center=49.82,15.475zoom=7;
 layerControl=vylety,mista,trasylayerFilterItem=mapType=OSM
 
 Chtělo by to prozkoumat to API. Problém je buď v API - že neumožňuje přidat 
 podmínky vrstvy nebo nebo to neumí ty pluginy.

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Re: [Talk-cz] Licence (zase)

2015-03-10 Thread Petr Vejsada

Ahoj,

ten kluk, co dělá vyletsepsem.cz tam má všechno - když je zobrazená OSM 
vrstva, má tam googlí logo, (C) OSM i googlí podmínky použití, což je IMO 
správně. I nad OSM vrstvou si návštěvník pustit streetview, tedy podmínky 
užití Googlu jsou na místě.

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Dne Út 10. března 2015 18:21:30, Jan Martinec napsal(a):

 Teoreticky by se to dalo řešit _přidáním_ (c) OSM Contributors navíc k
 tomu googlímu, ale...je to takovej licenční kočkopes a čert ví, jestli
 vůbec nějaký legální řešení existuje. Takže jo, mapy od Googlu a OSM není
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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

2015-03-10 Thread Alex Barth

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com wrote:

 While we can build better tools to process large numbers of notes, the one
 thing we can't
 do under the current system is ask the person who wrote the note for more
 information.  There's (usually)
 just one chance to collect that information.  And when the map is updated,
 is an excellent time to draw
 people back to OSM for a second look (so they can take pride in having
 contributed).


So require an OSM account for posting notes?


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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Clifford Snow

Alex,
Our friends on the other side of the pond like to point out that we have
many poorly and unmapped areas. I'm sure we all agree that their assessment
is correct. Solving this problem should be one of our highest priorities.
Two solutions come to mind, increase the number of imports and growing the
community of mappers. While I feel that imports have their place, i.e.
addresses and building outlines, my preferred solution is to increase the
number of mappers. It would be great to see a session to brainstorm how to
set target growth rates and then how to achieve them.

My sense is that having the US Chapter Board involved is needed to help
overcome some obstacles, ie. funding, software tools, communications, etc.

I'd be happy to create a proposal for such a session, but it would need a
facilitator to help us work with a large group of interested parties. (I
haven't facilitated a large group in many years.) My other obstacle is I'm
currently visiting Costa Rica and I'm often in places with limited internet
access which makes it hard to communicate.

I'd like to get some feedback what others think. Do we have a problem of
being under and poorly mapped lands? Is it worthwhile to hold a session to
build a roadmap to fix it? If so how would you do it?

Clifford

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:

 Casting the net a little wider:

 What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
 we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of
 the Map?



 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 I put together a 3 minute survey about the upcoming State of the Map US
 conference. The main thing I would like to know more about is the types of
 talks you would be interested in, or even specifically which people or
 organizations you would want to see a talk from. You can find the survey
 here: http://goo.gl/forms/YZpm2aPk2O

 If you don't want to fill out the survey, you can also send your opinion
 my way in an email. In any case, thanks in advance for taking the time.

 Remember, the Call for Papers will be open for another 3 weeks:
 http://stateofthemap.us/talk/

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

2015-03-10 Thread malenki

On Sat, 7 Mar 2015 15:26:38 +0100,
Stefan Keller wrote:

 What about crowdsourcing dangerous bicycle locations using key/tag
 hazard? See http://wiki.osm.org/wiki/DE:Key:hazard
 And see also https://twitter.com/sfkeller/status/574213951644368896

tl;dr: As a lot of others already said: a quite subjective thing to
map.

In Germany a lot of more experienced bicyclists regard all separate
cycleways or even footways with bicycle=yes as hazard – with good
reason.
Every year a signifikant number of bicyclists get right-hooked by cars
turning right and their drivers not paying enough attention.
Every year, a signifikant number of those right-hooked bicyclists die.

Never mind the cars parking on the cycleways, crossing service streets,
the pedestrians, dogs etc which would make the experienced bicyclist
cringe from awe while the less experienced are happy to cruise along
with walking speed even on sidewalks where they are not allowed except
being ten or younger.

Ridiculous is the mentioning of snow or shattered glass. During winter
and below 0°C common sense should tell a bicyclist that surfaces might
be covered with snow or ice and thus slippery.
Some tags regarding winter servicing do exist although the proposal
wasn't guided to a voting process.
For glass and other stuff on highways: everybody should expect that
on the surface of the road stuff may lay which can harm the vehicle –
from glass of bottles thrown away by stupid people to shattered windows
of a car after an accident to nails and screws falling off carpenter's
car to vehicle parts lost while driving (exhaust, bump guard,
suspension parts, oil etc).
Bicyclists may take into consideration that on a road frequently
traveled by cars the smaller stuff like glass gets cleared away by the
crumbling effect of the car's tires so that cleaning is in opposition to
a cycleway needed less often. (Of course the bicyclist shouldn't ride
to the utmost right of a highway were no cars go and all the rubble
collects)

Thomas



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[OSM-talk-be] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux


Dear all,

I have proposed and obtained that RMLL be organised in Brussels in July 
2013.


I would like to propose that State of the map be organised at ULB in 
Brussels in 2016.


Who would help in structuring the dossier and later help with the 
local organization ?


Much thanks,

Nicolas

PS I think that organizing such an event can help to structure our 
community and strengthen the use of OSM in Belgium



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Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM
Subject: Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

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Re: [OSM-talk] Quality of OSM Notes

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 10:42 AM, Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us wrote:


 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 10:38 PM, Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com
 wrote:

 While we can build better tools to process large numbers of notes, the
 one thing we can't
 do under the current system is ask the person who wrote the note for more
 information.  There's (usually)
 just one chance to collect that information.  And when the map is
 updated, is an excellent time to draw
 people back to OSM for a second look (so they can take pride in having
 contributed).


 So require an OSM account for posting notes?


No, don't require an OSM account.  Not at all.
But a craigslist-like anonymous email would work fine.  The user enters a
real email address, and osm.org
promises to forward only map update notices to it (or some version of that).

Have a look at the model articulated by Nir Eyal to try and describe why
sites like Pinterest and Instagram
took off.  The model posits that successful properties entice people to
take an action (post a note),
get a reward (a return email saying the note was useful), they feel a sense
of investment and
are triggered to make another action (say, another note, or a map edit):



http://www.nirandfar.com/2012/03/how-to-manufacture-desire.html

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Re: [OSM-talk] New taginfo feature and a challenge...

On Thu, Mar 5, 2015 at 8:28 AM, Jochen Topf joc...@remote.org wrote:
 Hi!
 Taginfo just got a new feature, it can now find keys similar to other keys.
 This is useful to find related keys, but also to find misspelled keys. I
 hope the community uses this feature to clean up those wayward keys...

 More at
 http://blog.jochentopf.com/2015-03-05-new-taginfo-features-and-a-challenge.html

It's a great feature, thanks!

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Re: [OSM-talk-be] Fwd: You've scheduled: Openstreetmap Local Meetup Leuven March 28

2015-03-10 Thread Nicolas Pettiaux


Dear Jo

I have registered but will only be able to be with you at about 17.

Have you got in touch with jounalists to invite them to attend and 
maybe report the event afterwards ?


Regards

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[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Scholarships and talks deadlines - we'd like to hear from you!

2015-03-10 Thread maning sambale

Scholarships still open!

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From: Alex Barth a...@openstreetmap.us
Date: Wed, Mar 11, 2015 at 8:31 AM
Subject: [OSM-talk] Scholarships and talks deadlines - we'd like to
hear from you!
To: Open Street Map Talk-US talk...@openstreetmap.org, OSM Talk
t...@openstreetmap.org

Hello everyone -

Important deadlines are coming up for State of the Map US:

- March 15: apply for a scholarship
- March 22: submit a talk
- March 31: last day to get an early bird ticket for $90

This is particularly a call to everyone subscribed to this list. So
many of you do amazing work on the map or on OpenStreetMap software -
we'd love to invite you to share experiences from your work or your
ideas for the project.

Submitting a talk is not the only way to participate:

- You can schedule birds of a feather sessions (round tables) ad-hoc
at the conference
- There will be a hack day with plenty of space and opportunity for
code sprints, documentation sprints, and workshops
- The international Maptime community will hold their summit at the conference
- The American Red Cross will be hosting a missing maps party
- There will be an NYC foot survey

Get in touch if you have ideas: bo...@opensteretmap.us or just post
here on the list.

This conference is organized by the OpenStreetMap US chapter and
volunteers but this is really an open invitation to anyone in the
world. Look at it like your neighbor is throwing a party and
everyone's invited over.

Looking forward to seeing you in New York -

Alex

PS: if you'd like to help spread the word:
https://twitter.com/sotmus/status/575450081886781441

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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

2015-03-10 Thread Clifford Snow

Alex,
Our friends on the other side of the pond like to point out that we have
many poorly and unmapped areas. I'm sure we all agree that their assessment
is correct. Solving this problem should be one of our highest priorities.
Two solutions come to mind, increase the number of imports and growing the
community of mappers. While I feel that imports have their place, i.e.
addresses and building outlines, my preferred solution is to increase the
number of mappers. It would be great to see a session to brainstorm how to
set target growth rates and then how to achieve them.

My sense is that having the US Chapter Board involved is needed to help
overcome some obstacles, ie. funding, software tools, communications, etc.

I'd be happy to create a proposal for such a session, but it would need a
facilitator to help us work with a large group of interested parties. (I
haven't facilitated a large group in many years.) My other obstacle is I'm
currently visiting Costa Rica and I'm often in places with limited internet
access which makes it hard to communicate.

I'd like to get some feedback what others think. Do we have a problem of
being under and poorly mapped lands? Is it worthwhile to hold a session to
build a roadmap to fix it? If so how would you do it?

Clifford

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 8:52 PM, Alex Barth a...@mapbox.com wrote:

 Casting the net a little wider:

 What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
 we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State of
 the Map?



 On Mon, Mar 2, 2015 at 8:40 AM, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote:

 Hey all,

 I put together a 3 minute survey about the upcoming State of the Map US
 conference. The main thing I would like to know more about is the types of
 talks you would be interested in, or even specifically which people or
 organizations you would want to see a talk from. You can find the survey
 here: http://goo.gl/forms/YZpm2aPk2O

 If you don't want to fill out the survey, you can also send your opinion
 my way in an email. In any case, thanks in advance for taking the time.

 Remember, the Call for Papers will be open for another 3 weeks:
 http://stateofthemap.us/talk/

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Re: [Talk-es] Academias de idiomas

2015-03-10 Thread Miguel Sevilla-Callejo

Hola,

Hace mucho tiempo me encontré con este problema y tras mucho darle vueltas
por la wiki llegué a otra solución:
amenity=training
training=languaje

No me pregunteis cómo llegué a esa conclusión pero me pareció la más
correcta a pesar de no encontrar muchos usos. Y es que en el fondo una
academia de idiomas (esto no es exactamente eso pero me valía) no es muy
diferente de una autoescuela, en la que se usa amenity=training y pensé (o
vi, ya no me acuerdo) que esa combinación podía ser interesante.

aquí el nodo en cuestión:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/2430285941
No tiene renderizado por cierto...

Ya diréis qué solución os parece más adecuada.

... encontré mi referencia:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/training

M

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2015-03-10 14:22 GMT+01:00 Ander Pijoan ander.pij...@deusto.es:

 Pensaba que existía language_school. Pero mirando taginfo parece que no:

 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/search?q=language_school#values

 Y shcool=language está en las mismas:

 https://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/school=language

 No lo tengo nada claro pero creo que igual sería mejor
 amenity=language_school ya que poniendo amenity=school + school=language
 igual la gente busca amenity=school y se creen que es una escuela? No lo
 sé, a ver si alguien más opina algo.



 El 10 de marzo de 2015, 14:13, Paúl Sanz paulsanzca...@gmail.com
 escribió:

 Hola: iba yo tan tranquilo a incluir una academia de idiomas en la que
 ha empezado a trabajar una conocida y me encuentro con que no hay
 ninguna etiqueta que cubra estos establecimientos. Se me ha ocurrido
 usar amenity=school y school=language, pero solo hay 9 usos de
 esta última.
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[OSRM-talk] osrm route directly from command line not via http possible?

2015-03-10 Thread Michael Leonard

Hi

I'm new to OSRM and the mailing list but have managed to get it all working
well on a 64bit Ubuntu 14.04 server.

I’m writing looking for help to get OSRM’s routing algorithm working
directly from the command line rather than via http.


More info

OSRM is already extremely fast when called using curl http://localhost … -
however I’m looking to include it an algorithm to generate millions of
realistic driving routes, and am hoping that the underlying C++ routing
function might be accessible from the command line directly in some way.
With a command line function that wraps around OSRM’s routing algorithm, I
could call this from within R where I’m writing the rest of my code.

My C++ skills are unfortunately at the extreme beginner level, but I have
found where I might start if I were much more advanced: either the file
simpleclient.cpp in the OSRM github repo or the node_osrm.cpp file in the
node-osrm repo which looks like it's similar to simpleclient.cpp.

Hopefully someone has already crossed this bridge and could I'm hoping
provide some kind of simple command-line wrapper function to these
underlying c++ functions so that I can avoid the http approach which I'm
guessing slows things down.


Thanks in advance...

Thanks so much in advance I really appreciate any help or tips to get this
working

Love osrm by the way


Mike


PS

I posted this on stackoverflow but found this mailing list and thought I
might have more luck using it.
http://stackoverflow.com/questions/28958577/open-source-routing-machine-via-the-commandl
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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:

  Sharp curves .. would they not be obvious from the map it self .. one
 node on the sharp corner compared to many for a 'smooth' corner.'Masked'
 corners where some object hides on coming traffic (e.g. building,
 vegetation)  are also a hazard.

 These hazards exist for all kinds of traffic and not indicated on maps.


The signs I have in mind were added after a long history of incidents at
the given location.

One such sign warns of a persistently wet surface in a given area.  Enough
cyclists spilled on
that section that the sign was added.



This is typical: traffic measures are added after a series of incidents
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Re: [Talk-hr] HULK hackaton

2015-03-10 Thread hbogner


Hackatoni mogu biti:

- za početnike - na primjer osnove pythona
- napredni - na primjer izrada aplikacije

Napredni dovršavaju kod, a početnici unose podatke :D


On 03/10/2015 02:01 PM, Janko Mihelić wrote:

Bilo bi dobro da se u hackatonu dovrši taj kod, jerbo je još uvijek malko u
ranim fazama. Fali mu još da se prate promjene od zadnjeg osvježavanja, da
se promjene pošalju na mail, i da se sa jednostavnim sučeljem napravi novi
vrt u par klikova. E da, i automatsko osvježavanje. Kad se sve to napravi,
može se objaviti kao addon za Google docs.

Dana 10. ožujka 2015. u 13:21 hbogner hbog...@gmail.com je napisao/la:


http://www.linux.hr/modules/news/article.php?storyid=3169

Ekipa trazi ideje.

Šta kažete da kreiramo hackaton gdje bi unosili podatke za jedan od naših
vrtova?
Recimo naselja u RH?
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1sBAMDmcLItgro3wQrIO-
JN2LxuRRLyx8JL-a5yO2gUk/edit?pli=1#gid=0
Još ih je hrpu sa nedostajućim popisom stanovništva.


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[OSM-talk] Problem with usage of other values than yes for key building

2015-03-10 Thread Stefan Keller

Hi,

I have a problem with the usage values other yes in key building.
It seems to me that this any other usage of building=yes (for area
type) is almost purely redundant.

When looking at taginfo [1], building has following three top most key usages:
yes  119260798 85%
house 11592812 8%
residential 3145218 2%
...

So, other than yes has a frequency of 15% and less.

Then, when looking at the wiki page [2] it mostly points to
alternative tags, like
* building=apartment = tourism=apartment
* building=hotel = tourism=hotel
* building=warehouse = shop=department_store (no indication to that
in warehouse
* building=church/cathedral =  amenity=place_of_worship
* building=school/hospital = amenity=school/hospital

Sometimes when looking at wiki pages of building=* they even don't
mention the preferred tagging, like building=apartment [3].

I tend to stipulate that any other value than yes for key building
should be deprecated.
Or am I missing something?

Yours, S.

[1] http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/keys/building#values
[2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:building
[3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:building%3Dapartments

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[OSM-talk] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.

This time we mean it! - State of the Map Working Group.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

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Re: [OSM-talk] Mapping dangerous bicycle locations?

2015-03-10 Thread Stefan Keller

To me it's almost undisputed that traffic signs - including warning
signs for cyclists - can be and are mapped.

-S.

2015-03-10 21:33 GMT+01:00 Bryce Nesbitt bry...@obviously.com:
 On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 2:30 PM, Warin 61sundow...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sharp curves .. would they not be obvious from the map it self .. one node
 on the sharp corner compared to many for a 'smooth' corner.'Masked' corners
 where some object hides on coming traffic (e.g. building, vegetation)  are
 also a hazard.

 These hazards exist for all kinds of traffic and not indicated on maps.


 The signs I have in mind were added after a long history of incidents at the
 given location.

 One such sign warns of a persistently wet surface in a given area.  Enough
 cyclists spilled on
 that section that the sign was added.

 

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Re: [Talk-cz] Vykreslování turistických tras (Re: semestralni projekt - napady)

2015-03-10 Thread Pavel Machek

On Tue 2015-03-10 05:51:31, Marián Kyral wrote:
 
 
 -- Původní zpráva --
 Od: Ladislav Laska la...@kam.mff.cuni.cz
 Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
 Datum: 9. 3. 2015 15:08:37
 Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] Vykreslování turistických tras (Re: semestralni 
 projekt - napady)
 
 Inu, to vypadá podobně, jako předmět který u nás chvíli vedl Pasky na MFF :
 -). 
 Myslím, že se nějaké vhodně obtížná práce najde třeba v mapovátku 
 Merkaartor, 
 které jsem nedávno adoptoval a snažím se ho trošku zvelebovat. Třeba do té 
 doby 
 doženu majitele serveru k oživení webu :-)
  
 
 Jaké jsou výhody Merkaartoru oproti JOSM (kromě toho, že je v C++)?

JOSM je velmi low-level editor. Merkaator se snazi byt
privetivejsi. (Potom taky JOSM vypada hrozne a je linej. Ale porad je
nejlepsi co znam :-) ) 

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[Talk-ca] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

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http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

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[OSM-talk-be] Fwd: You've scheduled: Openstreetmap Local Meetup Leuven March 28

2015-03-10 Thread Jo

I'm proposing a meetup in Leuven for the 28th of March 2015

Jo

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   You're confirmed!
Openstreetmap Local Meetup Leuven March 28
http://www.meetup.com/OpenStreetMap-Belgium/events/221059592/t/co1.1_grp/?rv=co1.1

 Jo
OpenStreetMap België/Belgique!

 Saturday, March 28, 2015
 at 4:00 PM
   Wereldcafee COOP Leuven
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 Leuven
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-us] Your opinion about SOTM US

I'm still kicking up chunks of stuff GNIS and TIGER pulled in that are
woefully inaccurate. Just did some cursory Lincoln County, NV work after my
father got lost out there while motorcycling with his wife (fortunately for
him, he carries survival basics and knows how to survive in the Great Basin
and how to recover when lost out there, so having bad information was just
super annoying, not necessarily life-threatening in this case).  Seems GNIS
and/or TIGER pulled in some POIs for hamlets that either never existed in
the first place, or were abandoned 50+ years ago and are long gone now.
Whenever I'm out there or I have a reason to edit out there, I do try to
make sure it's at least minimally connected and tagged more or less
correctly (though the geometry might not be super-accurate since we're
talking about having to fix dozens of miles at a time in open-nothing) so
it can at least be used to route back to civilization.

This is definitely a recurring problem for almost every map in the Mojave
and Great Basin deserts and pretty much a matter of life and death for
those visiting a pretty decent chunk of northern Arizona, New Mexico, parts
of southern California, western Utah, southeastern Oregon and just Nevada
in general.  Given that the US Department of the Interior's been trying to
get mapmakers to fix it since the USGS is horribly out of date in the
region, we could probably garner a lot of goodwill by fixing the map so it
doesn't kill people...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:

 Alex Barth writes:
   What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
   we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State
 of
   the Map?

 For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER
 data. I've got it mostly under control in NY, but I still find bits
 and pieces of it left. And when I go looking in neighboring states, I
 shudder.

 --
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Re: [Talk-us] [OSM-talk] Your opinion about SOTM US

I'm still kicking up chunks of stuff GNIS and TIGER pulled in that are
woefully inaccurate. Just did some cursory Lincoln County, NV work after my
father got lost out there while motorcycling with his wife (fortunately for
him, he carries survival basics and knows how to survive in the Great Basin
and how to recover when lost out there, so having bad information was just
super annoying, not necessarily life-threatening in this case).  Seems GNIS
and/or TIGER pulled in some POIs for hamlets that either never existed in
the first place, or were abandoned 50+ years ago and are long gone now.
Whenever I'm out there or I have a reason to edit out there, I do try to
make sure it's at least minimally connected and tagged more or less
correctly (though the geometry might not be super-accurate since we're
talking about having to fix dozens of miles at a time in open-nothing) so
it can at least be used to route back to civilization.

This is definitely a recurring problem for almost every map in the Mojave
and Great Basin deserts and pretty much a matter of life and death for
those visiting a pretty decent chunk of northern Arizona, New Mexico, parts
of southern California, western Utah, southeastern Oregon and just Nevada
in general.  Given that the US Department of the Interior's been trying to
get mapmakers to fix it since the USGS is horribly out of date in the
region, we could probably garner a lot of goodwill by fixing the map so it
doesn't kill people...

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 1:01 AM, Russ Nelson nel...@crynwr.com wrote:

 Alex Barth writes:
   What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap as
   we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for State
 of
   the Map?

 For OSM in the US? Finding and fixing the badly-digitized TIGER
 data. I've got it mostly under control in NY, but I still find bits
 and pieces of it left. And when I go looking in neighboring states, I
 shudder.

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Re: [OSM-talk] New taginfo feature and a challenge...

2015-03-10 Thread Jochen Topf

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 12:45:24AM +0100, colliar wrote:
 Not sure if it is connected but I have problems with the taginfo website.
 
 If I want to have a closer look at a tag (key=value) like
 highway=cycleway [1], I only get one page with the former tabs as links
 but clicking on them does not change anything except the URL [2]. The
 page stays the same.

Was a bug. Only happened when using https. Fixed now.

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[Talk-hr] Fw: Partial Website + API outage

2015-03-10 Thread goranracic1

Evo i jedne dobre vijesti, ali valjda ste to u medjuvremenu i sami ustanovili. 
:D

On 9 Mar 2015 17:38, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:

 Hi All,

 OpenStreetMap is currently offline due to a network problem at the
 data centre which hosts us.

 Status updates here: https://twitter.com/OSM_Tech/

 Alternative: #osm-dev on http://irc.openstreetmap.org/

 We are trying to get everything back up ASAP, but currently do not yet
 have an ETA.


All servers are now back to normal.

Kind regards,
Grant


Sent via BlackBerry from Vodafone

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[OSM-talk] Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 - now open!

2015-03-10 Thread Rob Nickerson

Hi all,

It's emails like this that I really enjoy writing but Richard's beat me too
it :-(. Ah well I had it written anyway so might as well hit send :-)

---

The state of the map working group are delighted to announce that the call
for venues for 2016 is now open!

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

This is much earlier than in previous years which means that you are free
to propose any dates within 2016. If there is an exciting event going on in
your city that OpenStreetMappers may be interested in, then why not align
the conference to this.

The State of the Map working group is here to help you. We're an expanded
team compared to the last few years and are looking forward to receiving
your bids. In 2014 we were south of the equator in Buenos Aires, in 2016 we
could be in your home country! So lets celebrate hitting 2 million
registered users*, share experiences and ideas, and plan for the next 10
years of OSM.

See you in 2016...
-- State of the Map, working group

* don't worry - you won't have 2 million people turning up on your doorstep
looking for somewhere to stay!
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[Talk-us] Call for Venues Open; State of the Map 2016

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Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-de] Formal proposal: mechanically reverting fixme=set␣better␣denotation / denotation=cluster

I'm writing with a proposed extension to this mechanical edit:  adjusting
the type and wood tags to current conventions.
It's easy to do and saves future changeset churn.  I'm also adding
denoation=historic on certain trees, and
removing denotation=cluster from things like water towers.
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[talk-au] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

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Re: [OSM-talk] Problem with usage of other values than yes for key building

2015-03-10 Thread Jóhannes Birgir Jensson

Well I for one see hardly any usage of building=yes in my town 
Kópavogur, in fact it has a usage of only 7,25% !


No imports were made so that could explain the low value of building=yes 



apartments458
commercial85
construction2
garage771
garages168
house1025
industrial61
no17
office3
residential3457
roof6
school5
shed7
stable53
yes478


Þann 10.3.2015 20:48, skrifaði Simon Poole:


Am 10.03.2015 um 21:35 schrieb Stefan Keller:

Hi,

I have a problem with the usage values other yes in key building.
It seems to me that this any other usage of building=yes (for area
type) is almost purely redundant.

When looking at taginfo [1], building has following three top most key usages:
yes  119260798 85%
house 11592812 8%
residential 3145218 2%
...

I suspect the numbers are strongly biased due to building outline imports.



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[OSM-talk-fr] Fwd: [talk-au] Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

2015-03-10 Thread Emilie Laffray

Pour ceux que ca interesse.

-- Forwarded message --
From: Richard Weait rich...@weait.com
Date: Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:16 PM
Subject: Call for Venues Open: State of the Map 2016

The Call for Venues for State of the Map 2016 is now open.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_Of_The_Map_2016/Call_for_venues

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[OSM-talk-fr] Maj des batiments issus du cadastre

2015-03-10 Thread sebastien.bugzi...@gmail.com


Bonjour

Pour mon premier message à cette liste de distribution je vais me 
présenter rapidement. Je vis à Toulouse et je participe à OpenstreetMap 
depuis un peu plus d'un an (je sais plus trop). Bref. Au début c'était 
juste pour corriger une évolution et je trouve que c'est de plus en plus 
prenant et je me trouve maintenant à faire des modifs beaucoup plus 
lourdes. :-)


J'ai toujours trouvé que la mise à jour des bâtiments était pénible à 
faire. Parce qu'il faut comparer ce qui existe avec ce qui est fourni 
par le cadastre. On peut superposer les deux avec josm. C'est très 
facile quand il y a 100 pâtés de maison mais c'est un cauchemard quand 
il y en a plus de 1000.


Du coup j'ai fait un petit script python (joint à ce message) qui fait 
la comparaison entre ce qui existe et ce qui fourni par le cadastre. Il 
détermine quels sont les bâtiments supprimés, les bâtiments nouveaux, et 
les bâtiments modifiés. Il y a toujours un travail à faire à partir des 
résultats obtenus parce que ce n'est pas possible d'éviter des faux 
positifs mais ça évite de faire une comparaison maison par maison. Bien 
sûr, il vaut mieux que la commune sur laquelle il est appliqué soit déjà 
issue des données du cadastre. Une commune ou le bâti est tracé à partir 
de Bing donnera des résultats plus mitigés.


Je ne vais pas détailler ici le fonctionnement de mon script. C'est déjà 
fait dans cette fil que j'ai ouvert sur le forum osm-fr :

http://forum.openstreetmap.fr/viewtopic.php?f=5t=1762

Je peux vous fournir un fichier exemple d'utilisation. Il s'agit du bâti 
de la commune de Seilh (https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/158877) 
au nord de Toulouse :

http://sendbox.fr/pro/5r3o7uspdsb0/Seilh.zip.html
Ce zip contient 2 fichiers :
Seilh_as_is.osm : les batiments tels qu'ils sont dans OSM actuellement
Seilh_to_be.osm : les bâtiments tels que le cadastre le donne actuellement.

Pour l'utilisation la commande est simple :
python BatiOSm.py Seilh_as_is.osm Seilh_to_be.osm prefixe
préfixe sera utilisé pour nommer les fichiers résultats.

Merci pour votre aide et pour votre retour si vous avez des suggestions 
d'améliorations ou si vous avez des comportements bizarres !


Sébastien
# -*- coding:Utf-8 -*-
#!/usr/bin/env python
import sys
import os
from math import sqrt
import time
from operator import attrgetter

BORNE_INF_MODIF = 1.e-5
BORNE_SUP_MODIF = 1.e-4

class Point:
DÃ©finition d'un point.

Attributs :
- identifiant (chaine de caractÃ¨re) 
- latitude et longitude (flottant)

def __init__(self, node_id, node_lat, node_lon):
self.node_id = node_id
self.node_lat = float(node_lat)
self.node_lon = float(node_lon)

def affiche(self):
print self.node_id, self.node_lat, self.node_lon

def distance(self, other):
Calcul de la distance entre deux points
d_lat = self.node_lat - other.node_lat
d_lon = self.node_lon - other.node_lon
return sqrt(d_lat**2 + d_lon**2)

def export_node(self):
CrÃ©ation du code xml Ã©quivalent au point
self.print_node =   node id=' + self.node_id + \
' action='modify' visible='true' lat=' + \
str(self.node_lat) + ' lon=' + str(self.node_lon) + ' /

class Batiment:
L'entitÃ© Batiment rassemble plusieurs donnÃ©es : 

- bat_id : un identifiant (chaine de caractÃ¨re)
- nbre_node : le nombre de points du batiment (nombre entier)
- node_id : le tableau des Points du batiments
- pt_moy : le point de rÃ©fÃ©rence du batiments (centre de gravitÃ©)
- dist_mini : une valeurs de distance pour dÃ©tecter la modification du batiment
- largeur : la largeur du batiment
- status : le status du batiment (nouveau, identique, modifiÃ©, supprimÃ©)
- nombre_tag : le nombre de tag dÃ©fini dans le fichier
- tableau_tag_key : le tableau d'identifiants des tags
- tableau_tag_value : le tableau des valeurs des tags
- pbAire : l'information si le batiment a une aire nulle
- multipolygone : yes si le batiment en est un, no sinon
- role : le role si le batiment appartient Ã  une relation
- ind_relation : l'indice de la relation auquel il appartient

def __init__(self, bat_id, nbre_node, node_id, 
numTag, tableauTagKey, tableauTagValue, 
distance=1000, largeur = 0., status = UNKNOWN, pbAire = NO,
multipolygone = no, role = outer, ind_relation = 0):
self.bat_id = bat_id
self.nbre_node = nbre_node
self.node_id = node_id
self.dist_mini = float(distance)
self.largeur = largeur
self.status = status
self.nombre_tag = numTag
self.tableau_tag_key = tableauTagKey
self.tableau_tag_value = tableauTagValue
self.pbAire = NO
self.multipolygone = no
self.role = outer
self.ind_relation = 0

def

[OSM-talk] Second decade visions

2015-03-10 Thread Daniel Koć


W dniu 10.03.2015 3:52, Alex Barth napisał(a):

Casting the net a little wider:

What do you think are the big topics and challenges for OpenStreetMap
as we're about to go into the second decade? What does this mean for
State of the Map?


I'm not sure what does this mean for SotM (?), but here are my thoughts 
on strategic topics as I see them being the active OSM community member 
from Poland. They are not very outstanding and visionary probably, but 
IMHO they are important and it can easily take few years - up to decade 
- to achieve these goals nevertheless... =}


TL;DR summary:

1. More synergy between (sub)projets
2. Managing data overload
   2a. Semi-automated tasks execution
   2b. Continuous sanity check tools
   2c. Big data analysis
3. Tools for personalizing OSM data presentation
4. Redesigning some key tagging schemes
5. Cooperation with external projects (especially open, like Wikidata)

***

And now that TL part alone:

1. More synergy between (sub)projets

OSM is acting in a highly decentralized way. I think this is healthy in 
general, but because the project is now on the road to be The Map 
(much like the Wikipedia is The Encyclopedia now), this results in 
growing inefficiency and inertia. Of course we can't avoid having some 
departments, just because the OSM is getting bigger and people tend to 
focus on their favorite activity, but nobody seems to care about the OSM 
output as a whole. For example you can talk to death every detail of 
tagging some esoteric features while completely ignoring how will it 
affect the rendering, routing or usability for mappers (for example how 
to tell the difference between tags A and B).


While it's a general issue and can't be resolved once and for all, I 
think connecting more dots inside the project is very important factor 
of reaching The Map level.


2. Managing data overload

We have so many data these days! It's a blessing and a curse. There are 
still many remote places where nothing is mapped - sure! But now we know 
how to do it, we have the tools to do it and we can help local 
volunteers to start (one of our most active member is helping to develop 
mapping in Nepal, another one is fond of Kyrgyzstan mountains).


But what to do with big, dense cities, where we have the landuses, the 
buildings, the streets and all the other micromappping things - plus 
the 3D layers, indoor mapping, underground facilities, etc. squeezed 
together? It will be increasingly hard to work with them - and new users 
will be those who will suffer the most, because it's easier to damage 
something while trying to add nice shiny object than to really extend 
the map.


Maybe we should split the data into sets or just make the iD and JOSM 
more layer/theme-centric tools - I don't know yet, but the problem is 
here to stay.


2a. Semi-automated tasks execution

One of the things we should really start to practice is to rely more on 
the automation. Let me quote:


Try not to let humans do what machines could do instead. As a rule of 
thumb, automating a common task is worth at least ten times the effort a 
developer would spend doing that task manually one time. For very 
frequent or very complex tasks, that ratio could easily go up to twenty 
or even higher.


[ http://www.producingoss.com/en/managing-volunteers.html#automation ]

As an example - we are just starting to use semi-automated script for 
updating public transport routes in Warsaw. There are over 300 lines 
here, many hundreds of bus/tram stops - and they are constantly 
changing, of course. one by one. When I got interested in it, we had a 
dedicated Wikiproject, but it was on hiatus by then and I quickly gave 
up too, because tracking so many objects in Wiki was a tedious and not 
very useful task. Once we learned that local public transport operator 
(called ZTM) has started giving away their precious raw data with 
coordinates (!), me and few other mappers started to add all the stops 
focusing on stop_position tagging. Now, after almost a year of work, 
we have all of them and the C++ script which creates updated routes 
network in about 15 minutes. Two important things happened lately 
regarding transport system in my hometown - one of the bridges was 
destroyed by fire and a new subway line was opened. If we did everything 
by hand, we would be dead now, because too many things would change too 
fast - but the script, even as rough as it is now, has no problem even 
if all the lines will change at once. We have only to feed it with new 
stops (when they are created) and we're done!


However - beware of botocracy! If there's only one person able to use 
the tool, it's not sustainable model. It's important that the script 
only gives the .osm file on the output and we can easily handle 
injecting it into the database once a day - or at any other time rate. 
We have a chance to make manual fixes here and there if needed. Too much 
automation is not the answer - just let us get rid of boring

[Talk-it] overpass api population

2015-03-10 Thread Luca Delucchi

Ciao a tutti,

qualcuno sa come esportare con overpass turbo le città utilizzando il
parametro population come limite?

Vorrei esportare per esempio le città con più di un milione di
abitanti... penso si debba usare una regex ma non ne ho trovato una
che funzioni.

Grazie

-- 
ciao
Luca

http://gis.cri.fmach.it/delucchi/
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Re: [Talk-GB] Proposed import of approximately 6 bicycle repair tool stands in the UK

2015-03-10 Thread Gestión del Riesgo de Desastres Ungrd

This import is now complete.

For the UK the nodes were omitted:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/note/329258
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[Talk-co] ACTUALIZACIÓN BALANCE POR SISMO EN EL TERRITORIO NACIONAL. COMUNICADO DE PRENSA 036

*Comunicado de prensa 036*

*Bogotá 10 de marzo de 2015*



*ACTUALIZACIÓN BALANCE POR SISMO EN EL TERRITORIO NACIONAL*



*Bogotá, 10 marzo de 2015.* Hora y media después del sismo de 6.6 de
magnitud con epicentro en el municipio La Mesa de Los Santos (Santander) a
una profundidad de 161 kilómetros, y tras el monitoreo nacional con los
Consejos Departamentales de Gestión del Riesgo de Desastres se tiene el
siguiente consolidado oficial:



*Departamento de Santander*

Afectación en seis municipios con un total de 23 viviendas averiadas, dos
iglesias un centro comercial, cuatro hospitales y el aeropuerto de
Bucaramanga.  Así mismo se presentó un evento conexo en la refinería de
Ecopetrol. Un incendio menor que se controló adecuadamente.



*Departamento de Norte de Santander*

La vía que comunica Cúcuta con Pamplona se encuentra cerrada a la altura
del kilómetro 21 por un deslizamiento de tierra sobre la vía.



*Valle del Cauca*

El aeropuerto Ernesto Bonilla Aragón se encuentra cerrado preventivamente
para realizar la verificación de afectación en la pista.



*Casanare*

Afectación en mampostería y fachada del edificio de la Gobernación



*Bogotá*

Afectación de estructuras en tres edificios ubicados en la calle 166 con
carrera 60, una edificación en Engativa y la Torre Colpatria.

Así mismo se realizar verificación por parte del IDIGER en la localidad de
Suba.



El Presidente de la República, Juan Manuel Santos Calderón, coordina
acciones con la Sala de Crisis Nacional, con el fin de tener disponibilidad
para la atención a posibles emergencias derivadas del sismo en el País.



El Director de la Unidad Nacional para la Gestión del Riesgo de Desastres,
Carlos Iván Márquez Pérez, destacó de manera positiva los ejercicios de
evacuación en diferentes edificaciones y la conciencia ante riesgo sismo.



Se recomienda a la comunidad mantener la calma y atender a la información
oficial evitando desinformación que pueda generar pánico. Así mismo se
recuerda realizar el retorno a la normalidad de forma tranquila y de
acuerdo con las indicaciones de las autoridades competentes.



*Redactó: Carolina Giraldo G. – Subdirección para el Manejo de Desastres*

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Re: [Talk-se] Trafikverket öppnar upp NVDB!

2015-03-10 Thread Magnus Ihse Bursie

On 2015-02-26 14:18, Andreas Vilén
wrote:

Så bra. Kanske borde ligga på dem ang. licens bara
så det inte blir en som är inkompatibel med OSM? Det är ju rätt
hårda krav för att få läggas in på OSM numera. Som jag fattat
det duger inte cc-licenser utöver cc-0 längre.

Kul att höra att NVDB ska öppnas upp! Den innehåller högkvalitativ
vägdata för Sverige, så det vore helt klart önskvärt att den öppna
licensen blir kompatibel med OSM.

Jag håller med om att man behöver framföra detta behov till NVDB.
Det finns många fall av goda intentioner med öppna data där man till
sist inte riktigt förstått relevansen av en lämplig licens.

Är det någon härifrån som varit i kontakt med NVDB-gruppen angående
detta? Eller någon som har personliga kontakter med lämpliga
personer inom Trafikverket eller Lantmäteriet?

/Magnus

/Andreas

2015-02-26 14:14 GMT+01:00 Tomas
Wennström tomas.wennst...@gmail.com:

I går var jag på SamGis skåne och pratade lite om
öppen data. Och då fick jag av Trafikverket veta att de
planerar att släppa Nationella vägdatabasen fri till 1
januari 2016! Vet inte om det är känt sen tidigare, men
det var nytt för mig. Och om de inte krånglar till det
med licensen så är ju detta jättebra för OSM, särskilt
vad gäller det enskilda vägnätet.

Hittade följande i NVDB-rådets senaste
minnesanteckningar:

"Öppna data

Beslut taget på Trafikverket att nyttja Vinnovas
definitioner av Öppna data och att jobba mot att
NVDB-data öppnas upp från och med 1 januari 2016. Två
projekt kommer att genomföras under vintern 2015 för att
säkerställa detta, ett projekt internt på Trafikverket
som ska se till att det fungerar internt Trafikverket
och ett projekt tillsammans med Lantmäteriet för att
lösa frågor kring öppna geodata för alla och produktion
kring enskilda vägar. Senast 1/5 2015 skall Trafikverket
och Lantmäteriet vara överens om ersättning för
produktion av det enskilda vägnätet. Projektledare från
Trafikverket är Patrik Jansson Det är viktigt att
Trafikverket vid öppnandet visar på att NVDB tas fram i
samverkan med kommunerna, Lantmäteriet och
skogsnäringen. Beslut 3:3 Projekt startas upp för att
NVDB blir öppna data den 1/1 2016. Senast 1/5 2015 skall
Trafikverket och Lantmäteriet vara överens om ersättning
för produktion av det enskilda vägnätet."

http://www.nvdb.se/PageFiles/61/Minnesanteckningar%202014-12-12.pdf

I dokumentet "Inriktning för utveckling av och
samverkan kring NVDB 2014-2016 hittar jag följande:

"Kraven på att vägdata i NVDB ska vara lätt
tillgängliga och avgiftsfria ökar hela tiden. Vissa
större dataanvandare och framförallt kommersiella
aktörer är villiga att betala för grunddata för att få
ställa krav på specialuttag av data. Detta öppnar för
möjligt att ta betalt om kunden ställer krav på
vidarebearbetning.

NVDB:s inriktning är att erbjuda grundläggande
vägdata avgiftsfritt (avgift = 0 kr). I detta bör ingå
automatiserade datauttag och grundläggande
användarstöd."

http://nvdb.se/PageFiles/61/Inriktning%20f%C3%B6r%20utveckling%20av%20och%20samverkan%20kring%20NVDB%202014-2016.pdf

Väl karterat,

Tomas

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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Carte des données indoor : OpenLevelUp!

2015-03-10 Thread PanierAvide


Bonjour à tous,

Encore du nouveau sur OpenLevelUp, et cette fois-ci pas mal de choses. 
En résumé : amélioration de l'affichage des objets et pop-ups, des liens 
rapides vers OSM, le cadastre en arrière-plan et la possibilité 
d'exporter un niveau en GeoJSON. C'est toujours ici :

http://github.pavie.info/openlevelup/

Pour la version détaillée :
* Meilleure gestion des buildingpart=verticalpassage [1]
* Affichage des images (tag image=*) dans les pop-ups [2]
* Les liens hypertextes sont cliquables (tags image, website, 
contact:website, url, wikimedia_commons)

* L'icône correspondant au type d'objet s'affiche dans le titre
* Le cadastre est disponible dans les couches
* Lien vers OSM.org dans les pop-ups et en bas de page
* Les objets building et buildingpart/indoor sont forcément mis en 
arrière-plan (certains objets étaient précédemment cachés)

* De nombreuses icônes ajoutées (tags shop, amenity, tourism, ...) [3]
* Le nom (tag name) de l'objet est affiché en titre de pop-up s'il est 
renseigné

* Lien pour l'export en GeoJSON du niveau actuellement affiché.

Vos retours d'expérience sont la bienvenue :)

Cordialement,

PanierAvide.

[1] Escaliers : 
http://github.pavie.info/openlevelup/?lat=47.32473955069693lon=1.070371400097zoom=20level=0transcend=1legacy=1
[2] Sur l'entrée ouest : 
http://github.pavie.info/openlevelup/?lat=48.12148643666441lon=-1.7112547159194946zoom=20level=0transcend=1legacy=1
[3] Exemple au CNIT : 
http://github.pavie.info/openlevelup/?lat=48.892781245969005lon=2.2382980585098267zoom=18level=0transcend=1legacy=1



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Re: [Talk-it] Ausili per mappare route in Josm

Ciao, ottimo strumento fa il caso mio.

Grazie!

Ciao, Mirco



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Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

2015-03-10 Thread Volker Schmidt

Two notes:

Mapillary is great, but upload (from phone or from computer) can be very
slow. I have not yet been able to establish what conditions the upload
speed. My experience is that it is much faster in the (European) morning
than in the (European) afternoon/evening. So allow plenty of time (several
hours) between taking Mapillary photos and the successive data entry session

When entering data in OSM make sure that you are not editing with different
teams on the same area. This may produce data conflicts.

Happy mapping

Volker
Padova, Italy
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Re: [Talk-cz] Licence (zase)

2015-03-10 Thread Karel Volný

čest práci,

tak jsem se podíval do zdrojáků a zjistil, že nemá význam psát ani na Rosa[*]
ani autorovi pluginu[**], protože ten jen volá nějaké Googlí API s tím, že mu
předhodí odkaz na dlaždice OSM, takže ty Podmínky použití si tam dává Google
sám (rychlý test: grep -i terms comprehensive-google-map-plugin.pot)

don't be evil :-)
[***]

[*] když už, tak spíše jejich webmasterovi, zda nechce zvážit použití jiného
pluginu - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Wordpress#Using_a_plugin

[**] jak bylo naznačeno, to by nemělo smysl tak jako tak:
https://wordpress.org/support/topic/notice-about-plugin-discontinuation-future-recommendations

[***] pardon za nekonstruktivní rýpnutí, ale toto jsem si prostě nemohl
odpustit ... neskonalá naivita příznivců Google mě stále ještě dostává

http://qz.com/284548/what-google-really-means-by-dont-be-evil/
... But it also means that Google has effectively redefined what “evil” means.
It is whatever Google thinks it means.
Don’t take my word for it. As Eric Schmidt told Wired way back in 2003, “Evil
is what Sergey [Brin] says is evil.”

Dne Út 10. března 2015 07:12:09, TK napsal(a):
Myslim, ze neprehledl. Nicmene je to WordPress s pluginem viz:

http://rosa-os.cz/wp-content/plugins/comprehensive-google-map-plugin

Takze pokud se napise sem, tak (pokud je to mozne) nekde v nastavenich
zkusi vypnout OSM. Mozna by bylo lepsi zkusit napsat autorovi pluginu,
tim se to vyresi i zde ale i na jinych pouzitich.

https://wordpress.org/plugins/comprehensive-google-map-plugin/

nicmene podle webu se to tvari ze uz to nikdo nevyviji.

Bye

Dne 10. března 2015 0:48 Petr Vejsada o...@propsychology.cz napsal(a):
Ahoj,

ač, jak víte, jsem ohledně licence docela v klidu, tak toto mě tedy
vydráždilo:

http://rosa-os.cz/nase-sluzby/azylovy-dum/

defaultně vrstva OSM, attribution Google-podmínky použití.

Můžete to, prosím, zkontrolovat, zda jsem něco nepřehlédl? Zdvořilý mail
už
mám připravený, ale než ho odešlu, rád bych, aby se na to někdo podíval.

Díky.

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Re: [Talk-us] Best practices for outdoor mapping party

On Tue, Mar 10, 2015 at 2:57 AM, Volker Schmidt vosc...@gmail.com wrote:


 When entering data in OSM make sure that you are not editing with
 different teams on the same area. This may produce data conflicts.


This plugin can be useful to help coordinate while editing:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/GeoChat
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Re: [Talk-us] Mappy hour tomorrow!

I'm pretty adept at using Google+; if need be I can create the events in
the future, I just need to know when.

On Mon, Mar 9, 2015 at 12:59 PM, Richard Welty rwe...@averillpark.net
wrote:

  On 3/8/15 11:49 PM, Martijn van Exel wrote:

 Sorry you can't make it Jack.

  The direct hangout link is here - I think:
 https://plus.google.com/hangouts/_/event/cpiqg6sldpjconoipvhmd3skhcc
 Sorry, Google+ makes it really hard to just share a link to an event. I
 still don't quite understand how it works.

 that link is telling me i need an invitation; i have requested one and
 am waiting for it.

 i agree, the G+ interface for hangouts is remarkably confusing.

 richard

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[Talk-es] Fwd: Mapping Party en Poio.

2015-03-10 Thread Iván Sánchez Ortega


¿Alguien se puede hacer cargo de esto?

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Asunto: Mapping Party en Poio.
Fecha: Martes 10. marzo 2015, 09.22.32
De: Xose Rial xoserialpe...@gmail.com
Para: ivansanc...@escomposlinux.org

Buenos días,

Soy miembro de la Asociación Xeopesca http://xeopesca.com/ y estamos
organizando una Mapping Party en Poio (Galicia) para el 11 de abril. He
visto que eres administrador do grupo de correo-e de OpenStreetMap.es y
quería simplemente preguntarte si sería posible la promoción de nuestro
evento en vuestra página web.


Un saludo

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Re: [Talk-cz] Merkaartor vs JOSM

2015-03-10 Thread Marián Kyral



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Od: Karel Volný ka...@seznam.cz
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 10. 3. 2015 10:03:28
Předmět: [Talk-cz] Merkaartor vs JOSM

Dne Út 10. března 2015 05:51:31, Marián Kyral napsal(a):
 Od: Ladislav Laska la...@kam.mff.cuni.cz
  Myslím, že se nějaké vhodně obtížná práce najde třeba v mapovátku
  Merkaartor, které jsem nedávno adoptoval a snažím se ho trošku 
zvelebovat. 

ó budiž pochválen velkou chválou dobrodinec náš :-)

 Jaké jsou výhody Merkaartoru oproti JOSM (kromě toho, že je v C++)?

za sebe můžu říct, že především mentalita

to není jen C++, ale i Qt ... motá se kolem toho jiná sorta vývojářů než 
třeba 
kolem GTK+ (ok, to je špatný příklad, to je zprzněné C) nebo například FLTK

prostě se mi s ním pracuje dobře (až na nějaké mušky samozřejmě), zatímco 
JOSM 
nebo teď ta nová webová blbost u mě neustále vyvolává pocity jako WTF, co 
tím 
chtěl básník říci, jak mám kua udělat to co chci?!?




Ráno ve vlaku jsem si Merkaartor zkompiloval a po spuštění se dostavil 
stejný WTF pocit ;-)

Ke čtení návodu jsem se zatím nedostal. 


Javu taky moc nemusím, do KDE by mi Qt aplikace lépe zapadla, ale možnosti 
JOSM, množství pluginů a jiných zdrojů JOSM nevýhody javy převáží.

Marián
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