date:20150901



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Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 1. 9. 2015 18:36:01
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

"Dne 1.9.2015 v 16:04 Michal Pustějovský napsal(a):
> Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti dnešnímu stavu.
>


Cus, obavam se, ze takova data tam nejsou ...


"1","Jihlava","","aut.nádr.","","","","","","","","";
"2","Praha","","Divoká Šárka","","","19","","","","","";
"3","Praha","","ÚAN Florenc","","","16","15","19","14","","";
"4","Praha","","Hradčanská","","","15","19","16","","","";
"5","Praha","","Dědina","","","19","","","","","";
"6","Slaný","","aut.nádr.","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Slaný","","hotel Praha","","","19","","","","","";
"8","Slaný","","žel.st.","","","19","","","","","";
"9","Slaný","","Žižkova","","","","","","","","";
"10","Praha","","Sídliště Červený Vrch","","","","","","","","";

Namatkou, cast z toho by se jako nazev pouzit dala, ale cast je jen 
oznaceni mista.

Navic je tu dalsi uzasna vec ...

"1","Velemín","Bílinka","","","","","","","","","";
"2","Bílka","rozc.Milešovka","","","","","","","","","";
"3","Bořislav","","","","","","","","","","";
"4","Duchcov","nem.","","","","19","","","","","";
"5","Duchcov","Osecká","","","","","","","","","";
"6","Duchcov","Teplická","","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Lahošť","","","","","","","","","","";
"8","Litvínov","nádraží","","","","19","15","16","28","","";

Specifikace poli:

Číslo zastávky
Název obce
Část obce
Bližší místo
Blízká obec
Stát
Pev. kód 1
Pev. kód 2
Pev. kód 3
Pev. kód 4
Pev. kód 5
Pev. kód 6

Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil 
upiratit zde 
http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/
PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf

Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...
"



Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho formátu
a data jsem nezkoumal.

V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné" 
chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D




Marián



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> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: Marián Kyral 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 1. 9. 2015 15:21:14
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
>
>
> Když vezmu, že použitelné jsou jen autobusy, jak ta data můžeme v
> OSM využít?
>
> U zastávek chybí GPS, takže můžeme maximálně zkusit porovnat
> zastávky dle obce a jména a vypadne nám seznam chybějících, nebo
> nespárovaných zastávek.
>
> U tras pak stejně musíme ručně určit, kterou cestou ten autobus ve
> skutečnosti jezdí. Možností je většinou je více. Tady nám ta data
> nepomůžou.
>
> Ještě něco?
>
> Marián
>
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> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 1. 9. 2015 14:46:02
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
>
>
> Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...
>
> http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-
radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/
>
> Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/
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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

2015-09-01 Thread Ha Noj

> tohle přesně odpovídá tomu, jak jsou zastávky uvedeny na označnících a v
> jízdních řádech. Samozřejmě, jiné společnosti to můžou mít jinak.
>
> Tak nějak jsem doufal, že "číslo zastávky" bude unikátní ID a ono je to jen
> pořadí v rámci linky :-(
*** Jízdní řády se dělají zezdola dopravci, kraje nezřídka moc
nezajímají. Před několika lety jsem zpracovával JŘ na úrovni kraje od
cca 10 dopravců a většinu času zabralo čištění dat jako jsou různé
neexistující zastávky, zastávky s různým pojmenováním, překlepy a
hlavně časové příznaky pravidelnosti spojů.

ha
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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

2015-09-01 Thread Keine Werbung

Aha. Aber wenn man keine Katasterangaben zur Verfügung hat und nur 
augenscheinlich die Lage vor Ort beurteilen kann?


Mit Relationen habe ich noch sehr wenig Erfahrung. Daß es die auch in 
der "zweiten Dimension" gibt, wußte ich noch gar nicht...


Wie legt man in den Umring einen Node?

Grüße sendet Lars


Am 01.09.2015 um 18:13 schrieb Florian Lohoff:

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 04:38:06PM +0200, Keine Werbung wrote:

Hallo,

wie mapt man Doppenhaushälften?

Ich möchte in einer Siedlung in meiner Nähe die Hausnummern mappen.
Die Siedlung besteht aus Doppenhäusern, also EIN Gebäude (bereits
gemapt) mit ZWEI Hausnummern.

Normalerweise weise ich dem Gebäude (Linie) den Tag mit der
Hausnummer zu. Ich habe auch schon gesehen, daß die Hausnummer extra
(als Node) gemapt wurde.

Was ist den grundsätzlich besser? Gibt es ein bevorzugtes Mapping
für Routings?

Wenn im Liegenschaftskataster 2 Gebäudeteile vorhanden sind übernehme
ich die genau so. Dann kriegt jeder Gebäudeteil auf dem outline seine
Adresse. Wenn das nicht der fall ist d.h. auch laut ALKIS ist das
EIN Gebäude übernehme ich das auch als EIN Gebäude und lege dann in den
Umring 2 nodes mit den jeweiligen vollständigen Adressen.

Ich finde es viel wichtiger das die Adressen da sind als wo die genau
sind. (So lange nicht jemand auf die idee kommt die in der 2ten Relation
zum verschachteln von Gebäudeteilen zu verstecken so das das auch ja
niemand verarbeiten kann).

Wichtig ist ja das der Geocoder die Adresse in der richtigen
Gebäudehälfte findet.

Die Kür ist dann sowas wie einen node auf dem Gebäudeoutline
mit entrance=yes und der Adresse.

Ich finde allerdings die nummer mit Adresse + entrance=yes als zunehmend
Unzufriedenstellender. Ich beschäftige mich normalerweise mit
Infrastrukturdaten und da will ich die Gebäudehülle einer Adresse haben
nicht den Eingang. D.h. eigentlich will ich den vom öffentlichen Grund
nächstgelegenen Punkt auf der Gebäudehülle bzw die Distanz dazwischen.

Flo



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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

Dne 1.9.2015 v 19:21 Marián Kyral napsal(a):
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: jzvc 
> Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
> Datum: 1. 9. 2015 18:36:01
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
>
>
> Dne 1.9.2015 v 16:04 Michal Pustějovský napsal(a):
> > Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti
> dnešnímu stavu.
> >
>
>
> Cus, obavam se, ze takova data tam nejsou ...
>
>
> "1","Jihlava","","aut.nádr.","","","","","","","","";
> "2","Praha","","Divoká Šárka","","","19","","","","","";
> "3","Praha","","ÚAN Florenc","","","16","15","19","14","","";
> "4","Praha","","Hradčanská","","","15","19","16","","","";
> "5","Praha","","Dědina","","","19","","","","","";
> "6","Slaný","","aut.nádr.","","","19","","","","","";
> "7","Slaný","","hotel Praha","","","19","","","","","";
> "8","Slaný","","žel.st.","","","19","","","","","";
> "9","Slaný","","Žižkova","","","","","","","","";
> "10","Praha","","Sídliště Červený Vrch","","","","","","","","";
>
> Namatkou, cast z toho by se jako nazev pouzit dala, ale cast je jen
> oznaceni mista.
>
> Navic je tu dalsi uzasna vec ...
>
> "1","Velemín","Bílinka","","","","","","","","","";
> "2","Bílka","rozc.Milešovka","","","","","","","","","";
> "3","Bořislav","","","","","","","","","","";
> "4","Duchcov","nem.","","","","19","","","","","";
> "5","Duchcov","Osecká","","","","","","","","","";
> "6","Duchcov","Teplická","","","","19","","","","","";
> "7","Lahošť","","","","","","","","","","";
> "8","Litvínov","nádraží","","","","19","15","16","28","","";
>
> Specifikace poli:
>
> Číslo zastávky
> Název obce
> Část obce
> Bližší místo
> Blízká obec
> Stát
> Pev. kód 1
> Pev. kód 2
> Pev. kód 3
> Pev. kód 4
> Pev. kód 5
> Pev. kód 6
>
> Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
> upiratit zde
> 
> http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf
>
> Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...
>
>
> Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho
> formátu a data jsem nezkoumal.
>
> V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné"
> chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D
>
>

Tak jsem se v tom trochu pošťoural. 10 tisíc zipů 1 - x - šílenost.
Zkoumal jsem ČSAD Frýdek-Místek a tam to vypadá, že nějaký použitelný
seznam zastávek z toho vypadne.

Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,aut.nádr.
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Dobrovského
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,žel.st.
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,černá cesta
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Lékárna
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Lískovecká
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,magistrát
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,městský hřbitov
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,myslivna
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Na Veselé
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Na Vyhlídce
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Nový byt
...

tohle přesně odpovídá tomu, jak jsou zastávky uvedeny na označnících a v
jízdních řádech. Samozřejmě, jiné společnosti to můžou mít jinak.

Tak nějak jsem doufal, že "číslo zastávky" bude unikátní ID a ono je to
jen pořadí v rámci linky :-(

Marián

> Marián
>
>
>
>
> > -- Původní zpráva --
> > Od: Marián Kyral 
> > Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> > Datum: 1. 9. 2015 15:21:14
> > Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
> >
> >
> > Když vezmu, že použitelné jsou jen autobusy, jak ta data můžeme v
> > OSM využít?
> >
> > U zastávek chybí GPS, takže můžeme maximálně zkusit porovnat
> > zastávky dle obce a jména a vypadne nám seznam chybějících, nebo
> > nespárovaných zastávek.
> >
> > U tras pak stejně musíme ručně určit, kterou cestou ten autobus ve
> > skutečnosti jezdí. Možností je většinou je více. Tady nám ta data
> > nepomůžou.
> >
> > Ještě něco?
> >
> > Marián
> >
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> > Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> > Datum: 1. 9. 2015 14:46:02
> > Předmět: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
> >
> >
> > Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...
> >
> >
> 
> http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/
> >
> > Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/
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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

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Kommt darauf an, mit welchem Editor du arbeitest?
Bei iD und JOSM (im Punkte setzen Modus) wäre es einfach nur ein
Doppelklick an die Stelle im Umriss, an der sich der Eingang befindet.
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Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-09-01 Thread Bryce Nesbitt

On Fri, Aug 28, 2015 at 9:32 PM, Russ Nelson  wrote:
>
> Speaking of housing developments, I earlier pointed to the south end
> of Cazenovia, where a housing development has an obvious railbed to
> the north, and an obvious railbed to the south, and in people's
> backyards, a treeline where the railbed was.
>
> Should the map look like this (A)?  ___   __ 
>
> Or should it look like this (B)?___---__-
>
> Some people are arguing for A. I argue that B is a better
> representation of what is there (the underscores) because it includes
> the dismantled portions (the dashes).
>

I've worked on "rails to trails" projects where the physical trace of the
railbed was
subsumed by fences, lines of trees and (in once case) a swimming pool.

But the legal right of way still existed.  Those homeowners were using
property they did
not own tax free: encroaching.  Once the encroachments were cleared, the
railroad
was turned into a trail (connecting A to B).

Thus something existed of the railway even through the backyards:
the legal right of way, the arsenic and lead, and ultimately
the desire to reconnect the bits.
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[OSM-Talk-ZA] Micro Mapping Informal Settlement

2015-09-01 Thread Grant Slater

Hi All,

There is some amazing on-the-ground micro mapping of a location in Cape
Town. They are using GPS & fieldpapers
https://twitter.com/osmcbba/status/636146688701374464

Map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-34.02332/18.65585

A big welcome to our new mappers :-)

Kind regards,

Grant
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[Talk-it] R: R: man_made=bridge

2015-09-01 Thread Alessandro Chiostri

Codesto è un tag che indica il materiale del ponte, vero ?

Se si, lo metterei sul contorno perché …

non so spiegare il perché,

ma credo sia lo stesso caso degli edifici delle stazioni ferroviarie di testa 
(Termini, Muenchen, Firenze)

che tutti attraversano a piedi a meno di non fare un lungo giro intorno

ed una cosa è il building, altra cosa è la footway che lo attraversa da parte a 
parte.

 


- Messaggio originale -
Da: "girarsi_liste" 
Inviato: ‎31/‎08/‎2015 15:57
A: "talk-it@openstreetmap.org" 
Oggetto: Re: [Talk-it] R:  man_made=bridge

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On 31/08/2015 10:49, Alessandro Chiostri wrote:
> Certo,
> 
> lo uso da prima che fosse inserito nelle preimpostazioni di josm!
> 
> Dite che la way della ferrovia/strada/marciapiede che ci  passa
> sopra debba avere un punto in comune con il contorno del ponte?
> 
> 
> 
> 

Secondo me sì, anche se non capisco poi se si deve mettere area=yes
sul contorno, oppure diventa implicito.

Poi, per esempio il tag bridge:structure=*, va sul contorno o sulla
highway?



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Re: [Talk-it] Porti, marine e tutto quanto



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> Am 31.08.2015 um 09:53 schrieb Aury88 :
> 
> sabas88 wrote
>> Per quanto mi riguarda ho fatto un sistema di tag per definire i porti
>> industriali http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:landuse%3Dport che più
>> avanti modificherò nel tag principale (da landuse=port a
>> landuse=industrial+industrial=port).
> 
> non capisco...è per indicare altri tipi di porto rispetto landuse=harbour?


a me non piace usare un attributo come landuse per indicare un feature. 
Preferirei un tag come
man_made=harbour/port
in man_made ci sono tanti features simili. Oppure "waterway" (simile ad 
highway=services o railway=station), oppure "amenity"


ciao 
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Re: [Talk-it] Tag surface



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> Am 31.08.2015 um 09:33 schrieb demon.box :
> 
> Ma è una superficie molto disomogenea... con
> brevissimi tratti che cambiano continuamente caratteristiche.
> 
> Immagino che bisogna "fare una media" ma con che criterio?


io cerco, finché possibile, di spezzare la strada per indicare nel dettaglio le 
superfici
diverse.
Ovviamente non funziona dove una superficie non è omogenea per tutta la 
larghezza...

ciao 
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Re: [OSM-talk] Abandoned Rails

2015-09-01 Thread Russ Nelson

Bryce Nesbitt writes:
 > I've worked on "rails to trails" projects where the physical trace
 > of the railbed was subsumed by fences, lines of trees and (in once
 > case) a swimming pool.

I'll bet you're talking about the Wallkill Valley Trail north of
Rosendale! I think I know the very place you're talking about! Guy had
built his house right up to the ROW property line, and put his
swimming pool on the ROW itself.

Too bad for that guy that he didn't check OpenStreetMap first, because
there was an abandoned railroad mapped in his back yard. Now that the
trail has been built, he has a fence about 5' behind his house. I
can't imagine he's happy now.

I think Bryce's observation lays this issue to rest. No, you should
not delete railways you cannot see, because they might still exist in
the property lines, and if you haven't checked, you don't know. If
somebody added it to OSM, they probably have better reason to have
done so than you have reason to delete it, so leave it there!

Thanks for your cooperation!

-- 
--my blog is athttp://blog.russnelson.com
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Bennett

On Tue, Sep 1, 2015 at 9:29 PM, Jukka Rahkonen  wrote:

>
> Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets
> including Victorian Government data listed here:
>
>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Contributor_specific_attribution_and_disclaimer
>
>
Thanks, Jukka.  I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it
seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the
datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and
are published on the relevant state/territory data portals (data.vic.gov.au,
data.act.gov.au) etc.

Steve
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-09-01 Thread Andrew Harvey

> Thanks, Jukka.  I suspect that "permission" isn't actually valid, as it
> seems to extend from data.gov.au (Federal government) but most of the
> datasets there are state or territory (eg, the VicMap Rivers dataset), and
> are published on the relevant state/territory data portals (data.vic.gov.au,
> data.act.gov.au) etc.

This is the original statement
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution/data.gov.au_explicit_permission
whereby data@finance.gov.au gave OSM permission to redistribute
all CC BY data available through data.gov.au (regardless of original
publishing agency) under "a free and open license, including the Open
Database License" so long as OSM provides the attribution on it's
Contributors page.

I do question that validity, but if you take it as true then I believe
this means that all you need is this state data to be re-published at
data.gov.au for OSM to republish it under a it's ODbL license
relieving downstream users of any requirements to attribute the
government agency (only OSM), even if the original state agency
doesn't agree with this relicensing.

I would still rather we find some way that each government agency can
release their data such that we can use it in OSM without needing
explicit permission. I think it's a bit unfair to ask people to
release their data as CC0 when OSM won't, so if the attribution issue
can be fixed in a future CC BY version I think that would be the best
way forward.

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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-09-01 Thread Alex Barth

On Sun, Aug 30, 2015 at 9:54 PM, Paul Norman  wrote:

> The problem is that they have specified a license with attribution that is
> unreasonable for geodata (CC BY 3.0 and earlier).
>

How so?

Emphasis is on "in a manner reasonable to the medium" which would be
totally satisfied by a mention and general terms of how data would be
modified on OSM on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors

http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by/3.0/au/legalcode
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Re: [talk-au] A way with no tags

2015-09-01 Thread mick

On Wed, 2 Sep 2015 07:09:44 +1000
John Henderson  wrote:

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/330876380
> 
> Unless I'm mistaken, this road seems to have no tags whatsoever.
> 
> I didn't think such a situation was possible.
> 
> John

I've come across this situation many, many times in North Eastern NSW. I load 
the data into postgis tables > extract with Qgis > save as mapinfo tables > 
merge all the points, lines, polly gones into a single table then cut & paste 
to theme based tables (e.g. highway, railway, waterway, ... ) until I run out 
of columns and still have about 1,500 entries left over with nothing to say 
what they are.

It not all bad though, some road sections have anything up to 8 entries. 

I'd try to sort some of it out but I keep getting confused and don't want to 
make mistakes and make worser.

mick

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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

On Tue 2015-09-01 23:34:01, jzvc wrote:
> Dne 1.9.2015 v 22:46 Pavel Machek napsal(a):
> >On Tue 2015-09-01 16:04:53, Michal Pustějovský wrote:
> >>Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti dnešnímu
> >>stavu.
> >
> >...plus jsme schopni odvodit nejake limity na vzdalenosti (*), takze budem
> >schopni rict "dej mi seznam zastavek okolo tehle do max 10km"...
> 
> ;D to nepujde. Mas tam i zahranicni spoje, ale protoze neni vyplneno povinne
> pole se statem, tak ...
> 
> Mas tam pak i dalkovy spoje po CR, narazil sem treba na spoj z Jihlavy do
> Prahy, kterej cestou asi nikde nestavi, zato v Praze na kazdym rohu.

Zahranici me nerozhodi.

Mam jizdni rady, takze vim, jak dlouho se odkud kam jede... a kdyz
jsem z A do B za 3 minuty, tak vim, ze je to bliz nez 6km. (No pravda,
teoreticky se mi tam muze objevit zastavka kterou neobjevim, ale
myslim ze tak se autobusy chovat nebudou).

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[Talk-de] OpenStreetMap in deutschen Filmen und Fernsehserien

2015-09-01 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

   hab mal eine Sammlung von Notizen hier angefangen:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenStreetMap_in_deutschen_Filmen_und_Fernsehserien

Ich habe OSM-Karten auch schon in einer Reihe von "Tatort"-Folgen
erspäht, aber mir nicht genau gemerkt, wann und wo. Vielleicht kriegen
wir mit der Zeit ja eine ganz gute Liste zusammen.

Immer mal wieder kommen irgendwelche Filmschaffenden und fragen, ob sie
OSM nutzen dürfen/können/..., da finde ich es ganz praktisch, wenn man
sagen kann: Weiss nicht, ob ihr das könnt, aber schaut mal hier, alle
anderen machen's auch.

Bye
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Re: [Talk-us] TIGER tracing layer updated to 2015 release

2015-09-01 Thread Nick Hocking

Yes, many thanks Eric,

This facility will result in significant improvements to the US OSM data.

Cheers
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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady


Dne 2.9.2015 v 0:13 Pavel Machek napsal(a):

On Tue 2015-09-01 23:33:48, Pavel Machek wrote:

On Tue 2015-09-01 23:11:37, Pavel Machek wrote:

Ahoj!


 Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
 upiratit zde
 
http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf

 Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...



Rozbalovani vnorenych zipu uz chodi...


A cteni jizdnich radu taky neco dela, ale jestli neco
rozumneho... :-). Mam spatne coding page, a nektery spoje jsou
pozpatku, a csv by se asi mel parsovat "malicko" jinak, ale vysledek
vypada uveritelne:

...skript je cis2tt.py.

#  100387_63
 2100.   0   Praha,,Háje

...

2141 .   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,nám.


No dobre, ted me dostali, tabulka Zasspoje (ta nejdulezitejsi) ma v
ruznych adresarich (4 a 5) ruzny pocet sloupcu. Ouch. Aha, oni maji
take ruzna cisla versi -- 1.9 vs. 1.11... a tech versi je tam vic,
jeste 1.8 a 1.10... Takze jsem dobastlil parsovani podle verse.

Tusi nekdo, kde najit popis formatu 1_11? To url nahore je zakerne,
kdyz z 1_9 udelam 1_11, tak mi to vrati... dokument 1_9 :-). Ale aspon
poradili spravnou codepage.
Pavel


Tuhle mas 1.11

http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/BD24BAB6-29EC-4E03-B91D-700494A41284/0/metodickyPokyn5.pdf



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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

2015-09-01 Thread Garry


Am 01.09.2015 um 16:57 schrieb Harald Hartmann:

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Nachtrag: ich will es nicht verschweigen, aber der Standardfall ist
wohl eher, dass man "zwei" Gebäude zeichnet. Aber das wirft dann in
der Tat eben genau die Diskussion hervor, die du selbst angesprochen
hast: es ist physisch meist nur "ein" Gebäude

Was ist das Merkmal für "physisch nur "ein" Gebäude"?
Ein Baugutachter in BW hat es mir gegenüber als Bausünde früherer Jahre 
dargestellt wenn
die "zwei" Gebäude nicht schalltechnisch vollständig entkoppelt wären, 
was heute Vorschrift wäre.

Dachziegel dürfen aber wohl durchgehend gelegt werden.
Kenne aber auch Bauten aus den 80ern in denen Doppel/Reihenhäuser eine 
gemeinsame Trennwand haben, was unter dem

Stichwort "kostengünstiges Bauen" lief.
Von aussen sieht man sowas den Gebäuden aber nicht an.
Ich würde aber als Ziel sehen solche Gebäudeteile immer separat zu 
erfassen - hilfreich z.B. für den Immobilienmarkt (fast jeder kommt mal in

die Verlegenheit eine Immobilie suchen zu müssen).
Oder welche Nachteile sprechen deutlich dagegen?

Garry


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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

On Tue 2015-09-01 23:11:37, Pavel Machek wrote:
> Ahoj!
> 
> > > Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
> > > upiratit zde
> > > 
> > > http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf
> > >
> > > Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...
> > >
> > >
> > > Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho
> > > formátu a data jsem nezkoumal.
> > >
> > > V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné"
> > > chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D
> > 
> > Tak jsem se v tom trochu pošťoural. 10 tisíc zipů 1 - x - šílenost.
> > Zkoumal jsem ČSAD Frýdek-Místek a tam to vypadá, že nějaký použitelný
> > seznam zastávek z toho vypadne.
> 
> Mas nejaky zacatek skriptu?
> 
> Ja zatim davam svoje sem:
> 
> http://timetab.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/timetab/timetab/cz/cis/
> 
> Rozbalovani vnorenych zipu uz chodi...

A cteni jizdnich radu taky neco dela, ale jestli neco
rozumneho... :-). Mam spatne coding page, a nektery spoje jsou
pozpatku, a csv by se asi mel parsovat "malicko" jinak, ale vysledek
vypada uveritelne:

...skript je cis2tt.py.

#  100387_63
 2100.   0   Praha,,Háje
 2101.   0   Praha,,Horčičkova
 2104.   0   Praha,,Sídlitě Petrovice
 2110.   0   Praha,,Nové náměstí
 2111.   0   Praha,,Uhříněves
 2116.   0   Říčany,,prům.areál Černokostelecká
 2118.   0   Říčany,,K el.st.
 2120.   0   Říčany,,U nem.
 2121.   0   Říčany,,Rychta
 2124.   0   Tehovec,Vojkov,
 2127.   0   Mukařov,,
 2129.   0   Louňovice,,I.hráz
 2130.   0   Louňovice,,II.hráz
 2132.   0   Vylovka,,
 2134.   0   Kozojedy,,rozc.
 2137.   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,Na Skalce
 2138.   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,Trativody
 2139.   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,U Kříku
2141 .   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,nám.

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Re: [talk-au] A way with no tags

2015-09-01 Thread Ben Kelley

Hi.

Yes it's possible. I suspect someone created the way and forgot to add the
tags before saving.

   - Ben.

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On 2 Sep 2015 07:10, "John Henderson"  wrote:

> https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/330876380
>
> Unless I'm mistaken, this road seems to have no tags whatsoever.
>
> I didn't think such a situation was possible.
>
> John
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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

On Tue 2015-09-01 16:04:53, Michal Pustějovský wrote:
> Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti dnešnímu
>stavu.

...plus jsme schopni odvodit nejake limity na vzdalenosti (*), takze budem
schopni rict "dej mi seznam zastavek okolo tehle do max 10km"...

Pavel

(*) ani vlaky ani busy nejezdi pres 130km/h prumerna...

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[talk-au] A way with no tags

2015-09-01 Thread John Henderson


https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/330876380

Unless I'm mistaken, this road seems to have no tags whatsoever.

I didn't think such a situation was possible.

John

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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

On Tue 2015-09-01 23:33:48, Pavel Machek wrote:
> On Tue 2015-09-01 23:11:37, Pavel Machek wrote:
> > Ahoj!
> > 
> > > > Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
> > > > upiratit zde
> > > > 
> > > > http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf
> > > >
> > > > Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...

> > Rozbalovani vnorenych zipu uz chodi...
> 
> A cteni jizdnich radu taky neco dela, ale jestli neco
> rozumneho... :-). Mam spatne coding page, a nektery spoje jsou
> pozpatku, a csv by se asi mel parsovat "malicko" jinak, ale vysledek
> vypada uveritelne:
> 
> ...skript je cis2tt.py.
> 
> #  100387_63
>2100.   0   Praha,,Háje
...
> 2141   .   0   Kostelec n.Č.l.,,nám.

No dobre, ted me dostali, tabulka Zasspoje (ta nejdulezitejsi) ma v
ruznych adresarich (4 a 5) ruzny pocet sloupcu. Ouch. Aha, oni maji
take ruzna cisla versi -- 1.9 vs. 1.11... a tech versi je tam vic,
jeste 1.8 a 1.10... Takze jsem dobastlil parsovani podle verse.

Tusi nekdo, kde najit popis formatu 1_11? To url nahore je zakerne,
kdyz z 1_9 udelam 1_11, tak mi to vrati... dokument 1_9 :-). Ale aspon
poradili spravnou codepage.
Pavel

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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

On Tue 2015-09-01 14:44:02, jzvc wrote:
> Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...
> 
> http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/
> 
> Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/

No, to jdf nevypada uplne spatne. Ze by cas ozivit timetab?
http://timetab.sourceforge.net/

Pise na to nekdo parser?

Pavel


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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

Ahoj!

> > Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
> > upiratit zde
> > 
> > http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf
> >
> > Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...
> >
> >
> > Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho
> > formátu a data jsem nezkoumal.
> >
> > V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné"
> > chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D
> 
> Tak jsem se v tom trochu pošťoural. 10 tisíc zipů 1 - x - šílenost.
> Zkoumal jsem ČSAD Frýdek-Místek a tam to vypadá, že nějaký použitelný
> seznam zastávek z toho vypadne.

Mas nejaky zacatek skriptu?

Ja zatim davam svoje sem:

http://timetab.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/timetab/timetab/cz/cis/

Rozbalovani vnorenych zipu uz chodi...
Pavel

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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

2015-09-01 Thread Florian Lohoff

On Tue, Sep 01, 2015 at 06:44:17PM +0200, Harald Hartmann wrote:
> Echt, willst du das wirklich? Wenn ja, dann sicherlich nicht fürs
> "Routing" - dazu haben wir nämlich im Forum schon genug Threads und
> "Beweise" gesammelt, dass bzw. warum es besser ist, die Adresse an den
> Eingangsnode zu hängen.

Es gibt etwa 100 Anwendungsfälle für Adressen. Ich habe halt mind. einen
wo Adresse auf dem Eingangsnode absolut kaputt und unbrauchbar sind.

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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady


Dne 1.9.2015 v 22:46 Pavel Machek napsal(a):

On Tue 2015-09-01 16:04:53, Michal Pustějovský wrote:

Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti dnešnímu
stavu.


...plus jsme schopni odvodit nejake limity na vzdalenosti (*), takze budem
schopni rict "dej mi seznam zastavek okolo tehle do max 10km"...


;D to nepujde. Mas tam i zahranicni spoje, ale protoze neni vyplneno 
povinne pole se statem, tak ...


Mas tam pak i dalkovy spoje po CR, narazil sem treba na spoj z Jihlavy 
do Prahy, kterej cestou asi nikde nestavi, zato v Praze na kazdym rohu.





Pavel

(*) ani vlaky ani busy nejezdi pres 130km/h prumerna...





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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady


Dne 1.9.2015 v 20:32 Marián Kyral napsal(a):

Dne 1.9.2015 v 19:21 Marián Kyral napsal(a):


-- Původní zpráva --
Od: jzvc 
Komu: talk-cz@openstreetmap.org
Datum: 1. 9. 2015 18:36:01
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady


Dne 1.9.2015 v 16:04 Michal Pustějovský napsal(a):
> Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti
dnešnímu stavu.
>


Cus, obavam se, ze takova data tam nejsou ...


"1","Jihlava","","aut.nádr.","","","","","","","","";
"2","Praha","","Divoká Šárka","","","19","","","","","";
"3","Praha","","ÚAN Florenc","","","16","15","19","14","","";
"4","Praha","","Hradčanská","","","15","19","16","","","";
"5","Praha","","Dědina","","","19","","","","","";
"6","Slaný","","aut.nádr.","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Slaný","","hotel Praha","","","19","","","","","";
"8","Slaný","","žel.st.","","","19","","","","","";
"9","Slaný","","Žižkova","","","","","","","","";
"10","Praha","","Sídliště Červený Vrch","","","","","","","","";

Namatkou, cast z toho by se jako nazev pouzit dala, ale cast je jen
oznaceni mista.

Navic je tu dalsi uzasna vec ...

"1","Velemín","Bílinka","","","","","","","","","";
"2","Bílka","rozc.Milešovka","","","","","","","","","";
"3","Bořislav","","","","","","","","","","";
"4","Duchcov","nem.","","","","19","","","","","";
"5","Duchcov","Osecká","","","","","","","","","";
"6","Duchcov","Teplická","","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Lahošť","","","","","","","","","","";
"8","Litvínov","nádraží","","","","19","15","16","28","","";

Specifikace poli:

Číslo zastávky
Název obce
Část obce
Bližší místo
Blízká obec
Stát
Pev. kód 1
Pev. kód 2
Pev. kód 3
Pev. kód 4
Pev. kód 5
Pev. kód 6

Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
upiratit zde

http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf

Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...


Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho
formátu a data jsem nezkoumal.

V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné"
chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D




Tak jsem se v tom trochu pošťoural. 10 tisíc zipů 1 - x - šílenost.
Zkoumal jsem ČSAD Frýdek-Místek a tam to vypadá, že nějaký použitelný
seznam zastávek z toho vypadne.

Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,aut.nádr.
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Dobrovského
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,žel.st.
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,černá cesta
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Lékárna
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Lískovecká
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,magistrát
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,městský hřbitov
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,myslivna
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Na Veselé
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Na Vyhlídce
Frýdek-Místek,Frýdek,Nový byt
...

tohle přesně odpovídá tomu, jak jsou zastávky uvedeny na označnících a v
jízdních řádech. Samozřejmě, jiné společnosti to můžou mít jinak.

Tak nějak jsem doufal, že "číslo zastávky" bude unikátní ID a ono je to
jen pořadí v rámci linky :-(


Neco k cislovani

http://bus.zastavka.net/za-zajimavosti/cislovani_vysvetlivky.phtml
http://bus.zastavka.net/za-zajimavosti/cislovani.phtml

Co se tyce vlaku, je tu UIC, neni neco podobnyho pro autobusy?




Marián


Marián




> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: Marián Kyral 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 1. 9. 2015 15:21:14
> Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
>
>
> Když vezmu, že použitelné jsou jen autobusy, jak ta data můžeme v
> OSM využít?
>
> U zastávek chybí GPS, takže můžeme maximálně zkusit porovnat
> zastávky dle obce a jména a vypadne nám seznam chybějících, nebo
> nespárovaných zastávek.
>
> U tras pak stejně musíme ručně určit, kterou cestou ten autobus ve
> skutečnosti jezdí. Možností je většinou je více. Tady nám ta data
> nepomůžou.
>
> Ještě něco?
>
> Marián
>
> -- Původní zpráva --
> Od: jzvc 
> Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
> Datum: 1. 9. 2015 14:46:02
> Předmět: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady
>
>
> Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...
>
>

http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/
>
> Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] camping / aire naturelle de camping

2015-09-01 Thread Nicolas Dumoulin

Bonsoir,

Merci pour ton avis détaillé :-)

Le mardi 1 septembre 2015 21:06:20 Jérôme Seigneuret a écrit :
> J'ajouterai pour ton cas:
> tourism=camp_site
> tents=yes
> capacity:tents=10  < à faire varier
> caravans=no
> *camp_site:type:FR=Aire Naturelle* < car spécifique à la France
> (Code du tourisme et arrêté)

Pas mal, si ce n'est que les caravanes (et camping-cars) sont a priori 
autorisées :-)

Merci

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Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-09-01 Thread SK53

I would think late Spring/early Summer are suitable times (after university
exams).

I think many people camped at Oakham last time around, so warmer months
with longer daylight seem sensible for that reason as well. There are B
and a limited number of cheaper hotels (a Travelodge near Uppingham, a
Premier Inn at Melton and, just possibly, a new budget hotel in Oakham).

My rough idea would be:

   - Week before: MapCraft or Tasking Manager armchair mapping (buildings,
   woods, hedgerows etc)
   - Friday afternoon: footpath mapping (for those interested)
   - Friday evening: social get together
   - Saturday: mainly mapping outside the towns: details of villages,
   footpaths.
   - Sunday: more villages, but a focus on getting Oakham & Uppingham done

It would be nice if we could link up with local people in some villages on
the Saturday to get more local context; and perhaps some kind of public
event in either Oakham or Uppingham.

General targets might include:

   - Details of PRoW (stiles, gates etc are missing on many in the county)
   - Listed buildings (many churches don't even have a religion tag)
   - New developments, notably Oakham Heights 1100 new houses being built
   on the old Agricultural Showground at Oakham
   - Countryside detail: hedges, streams, woods etc.
   - Addresses in Oakham & Uppingham
   - Mapillary sequences, particularly of footpaths & country roads.
   - Disabled & wheelchair access for pubs (do we need an excuse?)

But, critically what Rutland needs most of all is comprehensive revision.
Adjacent areas of Leicestershire & Lincs may be usefully covered as well.

Last time I think people used the Rutland County Library as a base. Other
possibilities might be feasible (County Museum, one of the private
schools).

Andy & RIchard generated a fair amount of media interest 10 years ago, so
this is also something we should aim to emulate.

I'll start a page on the wiki shortly, and perhaps will do a doodle poll to
assess which weekend is most suitable.

Cheers,

Jerry

On 1 September 2015 at 10:28, Nick Whitelegg 
wrote:

> Yes, it's been a number of years! Think the last one was Wales wasn't it
> in 2008... which I missed due to being on holiday.
> Would be really good to have another but definitely (as I said before) in
> the lighter months of the year.
>
> Nick
>
> 
> From: Steve Chilton 
> Sent: 01 September 2015 10:19
> To: Philip Barnes; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?
>
> It would be great to have another significant out-and-about UK mapping
> party, I'd be up for it.
>
> Steve
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Re: [Talk-it] addr:place



sent from a phone

> Am 31.08.2015 um 09:38 schrieb Andrea Musuruane :
> 
> Secondo me no. Altrimenti dovremmo anche scrivere "Città di Torino", "Comune 
> di Settimo Torinese", ecc..


dipende dal nome ufficiale. Potrebbe avere senso mettere Città di Torino nel 
tag official_name
(non lo metterei in name perché non mi sembra usuale su una mappa).

ciao 
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Re: [OSM-talk] [Tagging] Proposed mechanical edit: surface=soil to surface=dirt

2015-09-01 Thread Mateusz Konieczny

On Tue, 1 Sep 2015 10:13:26 +0200
moltonel 3x Combo  wrote:

> On 01/09/2015, Friedrich Volkmann  wrote:
> > Soil is not dirt. That's why I have used surface=soil myself, and I
> > will revert any automated edit of such kind.
> 
> I agree that soil and dirt are different, and that the mechanical edit
> should not proceed as originaly planned.

People noticing differences between soil, ground, dirt and earth should
propose changing definitions at
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:surface

Currently there is no clear differentiation (IMHO differences -
if any - are too small to be greater than differences between mappers
in interpretation of situation on the ground and normal changes as
result of weather).

Overall in that situation I will not make this edit (I updated
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mechanical_Edits/Mateusz_Konieczny
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Re: [Talk-es] OSMbot ya habla en español

2015-09-01 Thread André Outeiro

Yo ya estoy con el portugués, ya que Freire está con el gallego.
Em 01/09/2015 00:53, "Alejandro S."  escreveu:

> Yo me apunto a darle una vuelta al francés, ya he mandado la solicitud por
> la plataforma.
>
> On Mon, Aug 31, 2015, 23:03 Konfrare Albert 
> wrote:
>
>> Hola Xuaco i Aitor,
>>
>> Muchísimas gracias por las ganas de colaborar ;)
>> Ya tenemos en producción y disponible en OSMbot el gallego y el asturiano.
>> Podéis configurar el idioma con /settings
>>
>> Un saludo!
>>
>> 2015-08-31 11:05 GMT+02:00 Aitor Freire Astray :
>>
>>> Listo!
>>> El 31/08/2015 08:51, "Konfrare Albert" 
>>> escribió:
>>>
 Hola Aitor,

 No me ha llegado la petición por Transifex. De todas formas he añadido
 el gallego y he puesto tu usuario (freire)  como coordinador del grupo.

 Muchísimas gracias!
 Un saludo ;)

 2015-08-31 2:12 GMT+02:00 Aitor Freire Astray :

> Solicitado el gallego :)
> El 30/08/2015 22:31, "Konfrare Albert" 
> escribió:
>
>> Hola a todos,
>>
>> Como algunos ya sabéis, un grupo de gente de la comunidad catalana de
>> OpenStreetMap estamos trabajando en el desarrollo de un bot de
>> OpenStreetMap para Telegram.
>> Éste es el enlace: https://telegram.me/osmbot
>>
>> La última funcionalidad que le hemos añadido es la posibilidad de
>> localizar sus mensajes. Actualmente el bot habla inglés, catalán, 
>> español y
>> sueco.
>>
>> Escribo aquí para pedir ayuda por si alguién se anima con la
>> traducción al euskera, al gallego o a cualquier otro idioma que conozca.
>> La traducción se hace desde Transifex i sólo son 54 cadenas de nada:
>> https://www.transifex.com/osm-catala/osmbot/
>> Para añadir un idioma lo podéis pedir a través de Transifex o a mi
>> directamente en privado.
>>
>> Muchas gracias por adelantado ;)
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Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-09-01 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Yes, it's been a number of years! Think the last one was Wales wasn't it in 
2008... which I missed due to being on holiday.
Would be really good to have another but definitely (as I said before) in the 
lighter months of the year.

Nick


From: Steve Chilton 
Sent: 01 September 2015 10:19
To: Philip Barnes; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

It would be great to have another significant out-and-about UK mapping party, 
I'd be up for it.

Steve


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Re: [OSM-Talk-ZA] Micro Mapping Informal Settlement

2015-09-01 Thread Kieron Thwaites

Wow... that's impressive.  (:

Just one concern that I have: given the nature of an informal
settlement, won't the data become outdated relatively quickly?

--K

On 1 September 2015 at 08:12, Grant Slater  wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> There is some amazing on-the-ground micro mapping of a location in Cape
> Town. They are using GPS & fieldpapers
> https://twitter.com/osmcbba/status/636146688701374464
>
> Map: http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=17/-34.02332/18.65585
>
> A big welcome to our new mappers :-)
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Grant
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Re: [Talk-cat] FW: [Talk-es] Entrevista sobre Openstreetmap

2015-09-01 Thread Jaume Figueras i Jové


Hola,

Celso, gràcies per encarregar-te'n!!

El que vàrem fer l'última vegada (si l'entrevista és per escrit) va ser 
compartir el document i aportar respostes entre tots.


Salut!!

On 31/08/15 15:33, Celso González wrote:

Bones

Per si de cas, ja he dit que contactaria amb ella per� si alg� vol
aportar �s benvingut



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Date: Mon, 31 Aug 2015 12:31:08 +0200
Subject: [Talk-es] Entrevista sobre Openstreetmap
Reply-To: Discusión en Español de OpenStreetMap 

Buenos días,

Esta periodista se ha puesto en contacto con la comunidad española vía twitter 
@openstreetmapes, y busca algún colaborador español al que entrevistar sobre 
OSM. Visto que vive en Barcelona considero que alguien de allí sería lo mejor 
para entrevistarse. ¿Algún voluntario?

Un saludo,
Óscar Zorrilla


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From: Iasa Monique 
Date: 2015-08-27 9:32 GMT+02:00
Subject: Sobre Openstreetmaps
To: talk...@openstreetmap.org


Buenos días,

Me llamo Iasa y soy periodista e investigadora cultural. Estuve en contacto 
con @luiyo en Twitter preguntando por alguien que me pueda hablar un poquito 
sobre Openstreetmap. Me gustaría invitarles a contar la historia del proyecto 
en una entrevista, para una nueva plataforma de apoyo a las creaciones 
colectivas y colaborativas y a gestores.
Si os parece interesante, cuál es la mejor forma de ponerme en contacto y a 
quién debo buscar. Yo estoy ubicada en Barcelona :)
Saludos!



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[Talk-it] highway=steps

2015-09-01 Thread demon.box

volevo sapere se siete d'accordo con la modalità di applicazione o meno del
tag highway=steps come viene spiegato qui:

http://www.msmountain.it/varie/mappa_osm/consigli2-highway.html

cioè:

"SCALE PEDONALI: sono rampe di scale esterne pubbliche situate su percorsi
di tipo pedonale ossia su footway (ambito urbano) o path (sentiero). Il tag,
assegnabile ad un nodo o ad un tratto di way, è:

 highway = steps definisce una scala pedonale (vedi pagina WIKI)

 le riporto perché è facile trovarle mappate anche sui sentieri, com'è
corretto. Sono tipiche di molte città e paesi di collina, ma anche nei
villaggi di montagna. Personalmente mapperei come highway = steps solo le
scale vere e proprie e non le "gradonate" ossia quei percorsi a gradoni
inclinati dove la pedata è lunga 1 mt o più a fronte di una alzata di 10-12
cm (l'uso dei gradono serve a ridurre la pendenza del percorso). Anche
questo tag non è del tutto intuitivo, in quanto significa "gradini" e non
"scala" non esiste un higway = stairway (che significa "scala").

 

Per il percorso pedonale della foto sopra mapperemo highway = footway,
surface = cobblestone. NON mapperemo la gradonata con highway = steps perchè
non si tratta di una scala."

Voglio dire: siete d'accordo che quella nella foto (definita gradonata) NON
è da taggare come steps?

In effetti ragionando da biker in mtb queste gradonate si riescono a fare in
sella anche in salita mentre una vera scalinata NO.





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Re: [Talk-cz] ortofoto v JOSM

2015-09-01 Thread Mirek Dlask

Ahoj,

špatně je toto.
=={proj(EPSG:4326)}


Není důvod tam mít projekci natvrdo.
Buď tu část změň na

=={proj}

nebo si vytvoř novou vrstvu
http://geoportal.cuzk.cz/WMS_ORTOFOTO_PUB/service.svc/get?

Na neprůhledné vrstvy nechávám formát obrázků image/jpeg. Png je možná
trošku ostřejší, ale na plochách má nepěkný tečky (možná jenom u mě na
Ubuntu).

M.D.

2015-08-31 18:48 GMT+02:00 Zdeněk Pražák :

> Dobrý den
> používal jsem pro kontrolu rybníků a potoků v josm ortofoto na
> následujícím url :
>
> wms:
> http://geoportal.cuzk.cz/WMS_ORTOFOTO_PUB/service.svc/get?FORMAT=image/png=1.1.1=WMS=GetMap=GR_ORTFOTORGB=={proj(EPSG:4326)}={width}={height}={bbox}=null=1.1.1=WMS=GetMap==={proj}={width}={height}={bbox}
>
> nyní jsem si aktualizoval JOSM na verzi 8694 a když si chci jako
> podkladovou vrstvu zobrazit ortofoto tak se mi objeví hláška, že
> {proj(EPSG:4326)} není platný argument WMS, zkontrolujte url
>
> Co je špatně
> Pražák
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Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

2015-09-01 Thread Steve Chilton

It would be great to have another significant out-and-about UK mapping party, 
I'd be up for it.

Steve

-Original Message-
From: Philip Barnes [mailto:p...@trigpoint.me.uk] 
Sent: 22 August 2015 13:30
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] 10th Anniversary Rutland Mapping Party?

On Sat, 2015-08-22 at 13:23 +0100, SK53 wrote:
> I'm just back from my annual trip to the Rutland Bird Fair.
> 
> Each time I'm struck by the fact that Rutland still needs a lot of 
> ground survey work for OSM. Oakham for instance has a prodigious 
> number of new houses, the PRoW network is pretty incomplete, and there 
> are lots of other details missing in villages.
> 
> Next year will be 10 years since the big Rutland Mapping Party. Might 
> it be fun to reprise it and make Rutland best mapped countryside in 
> UK?
> 
> Obviously another alternative would be reprise the Isle of Wight 
> Workshop.
> 
> 
I'm up for either, travel costs to Rutland are obviously lower for most people. 
Isle of Wight ferries are quite costly.

Phil (trigpoint)




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Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Maarten Deen


On 2015-09-01 13:14, Dave F. wrote:

That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a
picture is added proves its irrelevance.

Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the 
database?


Why is that relevant?


The wiki has to be a clear & simple as possible.


Disagree. The wiki also has to go into detail. The wiki has to cover 
every angle. But that is also not relevant here.



"I see that icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a
assortment of icons within the page."
"the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to search on the raw
data rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map."

Sorry, but I don't really understand what you've said there.


I don't understand the issue. Why is the icon confusing? Why would it be 
wrong to have this icon if there are people that don't care about the 
XML structure? Other people may care and it is not confusing for them. I 
don't even see why the icon could be confusing. The icon is there 
because there is no specific icon for the value. If you don't want this 
icon th show, insert an icon for the value.

Really, I do not understand your problem with the icon.

Regards,
Maarten



On 30/08/2015 20:15, Lester Caine wrote:

On 30/08/15 13:02, Dave F. wrote:
As it doesn't help anyone learn the basics of OSM, it has no purpose 
on

a wiki & be removed.

The fact that there are now two identical icons is a little careless,
but that icon has a very valid place on both the original pages (
multiple languages ) that explaon exactly what a tag is, and I see 
that
icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a assortment 
of

icons within the page. YES is some places it has been used where there
is not currently an available icon on the rendering which has now been
added, but often the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to 
search

on the raw data rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map. It
has very well defined uses, which may need an element of tidying up, 
but

if you remove it do you start by wiping the basic 'tags' pages?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags is a basic starting point and
k=v makes perfect sense ...




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Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?



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> Am 30.08.2015 um 12:50 schrieb "ajt1...@gmail.com" :
> 
> It's a wiki.  If you think you can improve it, do so.


yes, it is a wiki, but I appreciate that he's asking here before making a 
change that will affect many pages. Just because everybody has write access 
does not mean changes shouldn't be discussed beforehand (e.g. it happens a lot 
that people silently, and often not instantly noticed by others, change the 
definition of introduced tags, creating hereby confusion amongst other 
contributors who then read it. This might even lead to deprecation of tags 
because it becomes unclear which of the parallel meanings does apply).

cheers 
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Re: [OSM-talk] What's the point of the Wiki 'k=v' icon?

2015-09-01 Thread Dave F.

That the icon is used purely as a place holder & *removed* when a 
picture is added proves its irrelevance.


Why would a newbie care or even need to know the XML structure of the 
database?


The wiki has to be a clear & simple as possible.

"I see that icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a 
assortment of icons within the page."
"the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to search on the raw data 
rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map."


Sorry, but I don't really understand what you've said there.

Dave F.

On 30/08/2015 20:15, Lester Caine wrote:

On 30/08/15 13:02, Dave F. wrote:

As it doesn't help anyone learn the basics of OSM, it has no purpose on
a wiki & be removed.

The fact that there are now two identical icons is a little careless,
but that icon has a very valid place on both the original pages (
multiple languages ) that explaon exactly what a tag is, and I see that
icon as an indication that the detail I'm looking at has a assortment of
icons within the page. YES is some places it has been used where there
is not currently an available icon on the rendering which has now been
added, but often the only way of viewing data tagged by k=v is to search
on the raw data rather than expecting an icon to appear on the map. It
has very well defined uses, which may need an element of tidying up, but
if you remove it do you start by wiping the basic 'tags' pages?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tags is a basic starting point and
k=v makes perfect sense ...




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[Talk-cz] jizdni rady


Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...

http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/

Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/

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Re: [Talk-it] highway=steps

2015-09-01 Thread Gian Mario Navillod

Io li mapperei come steps. I gradini, anche quelli bassi, creano difficoltà
a sedie a rotelle, ciclisti e, in discesa, a chi ha problemi alle
ginocchia. Credo sia utile segnalarli in mappa.

Buon mapping.

gm



Il giorno 1 settembre 2015 12:04, demon.box  ha
scritto:

> volevo sapere se siete d'accordo con la modalità di applicazione o meno del
> tag highway=steps come viene spiegato qui:
>
> http://www.msmountain.it/varie/mappa_osm/consigli2-highway.html
>
> cioè:
>
> "SCALE PEDONALI: sono rampe di scale esterne pubbliche situate su percorsi
> di tipo pedonale ossia su footway (ambito urbano) o path (sentiero). Il
> tag,
> assegnabile ad un nodo o ad un tratto di way, è:
>
>  highway = steps definisce una scala pedonale (vedi pagina WIKI)
>
>  le riporto perché è facile trovarle mappate anche sui sentieri, com'è
> corretto. Sono tipiche di molte città e paesi di collina, ma anche nei
> villaggi di montagna. Personalmente mapperei come highway = steps solo le
> scale vere e proprie e non le "gradonate" ossia quei percorsi a gradoni
> inclinati dove la pedata è lunga 1 mt o più a fronte di una alzata di 10-12
> cm (l'uso dei gradono serve a ridurre la pendenza del percorso). Anche
> questo tag non è del tutto intuitivo, in quanto significa "gradini" e non
> "scala" non esiste un higway = stairway (che significa "scala").
>
> 
>
> Per il percorso pedonale della foto sopra mapperemo highway = footway,
> surface = cobblestone. NON mapperemo la gradonata con highway = steps
> perchè
> non si tratta di una scala."
>
> Voglio dire: siete d'accordo che quella nella foto (definita gradonata) NON
> è da taggare come steps?
>
> In effetti ragionando da biker in mtb queste gradonate si riescono a fare
> in
> sella anche in salita mentre una vera scalinata NO.
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-it] highway=steps

2015-09-01 Thread demon.box

sabas88 wrote
> Ciao,
> io li taggo come steps. Rispetto ad una footway comunque ci sono quei
> gradini di mezzo: ad esempio con una sedia a rotelle non riusciresti a
> percorrerli.

Ok chiaro! Per 1 volta ;-) vedo che c'è subito 1 opinione comune.
Grazie!
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Re: [OSM-legal-talk] Any expert CC-BY -> ODbL negotiators?

2015-09-01 Thread Jukka Rahkonen

Steve Bennett  writes:

> 
> Hi all,  I've been trying to convince the state government of Victoria
(southeast Australia) to allow their VicMap raw data to be imported into
OSM. It's currently CC-BY, and they've told me they're happy in principle
for it to be used this way, but they're uncomfortable making the recommended
statement "DELWP has no objections to geodata derived in part from Vicmap,
either traced from Vicmap map products, or directly from spatial extracts,
being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata database and
released under a free and open license".

Hi,

Have you noticed that there are already quite many Australian datasets
including Victorian Government data listed here:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#Contributor_specific_attribution_and_disclaimer

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[Talk-br] Corredor de ônibus em horários de pico

2015-09-01 Thread teste


Iniciei uma discussão no fórum sobre como mapear um corredor de ônibus
temporário, em horários de picos.

Quem se interessar o post é:
http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=33911

Claiton



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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen


Es gibt etwa 100 Anwendungsfälle für Adressen. Ich habe halt mind. einen
wo Adresse auf dem Eingangsnode absolut kaputt und unbrauchbar sind.


Und der wäre? Jetzt bin ich ja gespannt. Vielleicht bringt mich diese  
Begründung dann dazu, meine Meinung zu ändern ;-)




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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady



-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Pavel Machek 
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic 
Datum: 1. 9. 2015 23:12:50
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

"Ahoj!

> > Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
> > upiratit zde
> > http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/
PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf
> >
> > Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...
> >
> >
> > Pěkné, pěkné. Přiznám se, že jsme v práci jen omrkl specifikaci toho
> > formátu a data jsem nezkoumal.
> >
> > V každém případě, třeba budou rádi, když jim semtam nahlásíme "drobné"
> > chybičky, které v datech najdeme :-D
> 
> Tak jsem se v tom trochu pošťoural. 10 tisíc zipů 1 - x - šílenost.
> Zkoumal jsem ČSAD Frýdek-Místek a tam to vypadá, že nějaký použitelný
> seznam zastávek z toho vypadne.

Mas nejaky zacatek skriptu?

Ja zatim davam svoje sem:

http://timetab.cvs.sourceforge.net/viewvc/timetab/timetab/cz/cis/

Rozbalovani vnorenych zipu uz chodi...
Pavel
"



Mám jen pár kousků shellu, nijak nepropojených. Jak tak koukám, ty už jsi 
dál.




Marián

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Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

Dne 1.9.2015 v 16:04 Michal Pustějovský napsal(a):

Už jen znát přesné názvy zastávek je velké zlepšení oproti dnešnímu stavu.

Cus, obavam se, ze takova data tam nejsou ...

"1","Jihlava","","aut.nádr.","","","","","","","","";
"2","Praha","","Divoká Šárka","","","19","","","","","";
"3","Praha","","ÚAN Florenc","","","16","15","19","14","","";
"4","Praha","","Hradčanská","","","15","19","16","","","";
"5","Praha","","Dědina","","","19","","","","","";
"6","Slaný","","aut.nádr.","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Slaný","","hotel Praha","","","19","","","","","";
"8","Slaný","","žel.st.","","","19","","","","","";
"9","Slaný","","Žižkova","","","","","","","","";
"10","Praha","","Sídliště Červený Vrch","","","","","","","","";

Namatkou, cast z toho by se jako nazev pouzit dala, ale cast je jen
oznaceni mista.

Navic je tu dalsi uzasna vec ...

"1","Velemín","Bílinka","","","","","","","","","";
"2","Bílka","rozc.Milešovka","","","","","","","","","";
"3","Bořislav","","","","","","","","","","";
"4","Duchcov","nem.","","","","19","","","","","";
"5","Duchcov","Osecká","","","","","","","","","";
"6","Duchcov","Teplická","","","","19","","","","","";
"7","Lahošť","","","","","","","","","","";
"8","Litvínov","nádraží","","","","19","15","16","28","","";

Specifikace poli:

Číslo zastávky
Název obce
Část obce
Bližší místo
Blízká obec
Stát
Pev. kód 1
Pev. kód 2
Pev. kód 3
Pev. kód 4
Pev. kód 5
Pev. kód 6

Tzn, ta data neodpovidaji specifikaci, specifikaci jsem si dovolil
upiratit zde
http://www.mdcr.cz/NR/rdonlyres/80947B72-4490-402E-A7FD-4C074918CA7C/0/PopisJDFverze1_9.rtf

Jop, pole stat je samozrejme povine ...

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: Marián Kyral
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic
Datum: 1. 9. 2015 15:21:14
Předmět: Re: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

Když vezmu, že použitelné jsou jen autobusy, jak ta data můžeme v
OSM využít?

U zastávek chybí GPS, takže můžeme maximálně zkusit porovnat
zastávky dle obce a jména a vypadne nám seznam chybějících, nebo
nespárovaných zastávek.

U tras pak stejně musíme ručně určit, kterou cestou ten autobus ve
skutečnosti jezdí. Možností je většinou je více. Tady nám ta data
nepomůžou.

Ještě něco?

Marián

-- Původní zpráva --
Od: jzvc
Komu: OpenStreetMap Czech Republic
Datum: 1. 9. 2015 14:46:02
Předmět: [Talk-cz] jizdni rady

Tak nam "zverejnili" ty jizdni rady ...

http://www.lupa.cz/clanky/tohle-je-vysmech-uplne-uvolneni-dat-o-jizdnich-radech-chapsem-se-zas-nekona/

Ke stazeni tu ftp://ftp.cisjr.cz/

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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

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Echt, willst du das wirklich? Wenn ja, dann sicherlich nicht fürs
"Routing" - dazu haben wir nämlich im Forum schon genug Threads und
"Beweise" gesammelt, dass bzw. warum es besser ist, die Adresse an den
Eingangsnode zu hängen.

> D.h. eigentlich will ich den vom öffentlichen Grund nächstgelegenen
> Punkt auf der Gebäudehülle bzw die Distanz dazwischen.
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[Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

2015-09-01 Thread Keine Werbung


Hallo,

wie mapt man Doppenhaushälften?

Ich möchte in einer Siedlung in meiner Nähe die Hausnummern mappen. Die 
Siedlung besteht aus Doppenhäusern, also EIN Gebäude (bereits gemapt) 
mit ZWEI Hausnummern.


Normalerweise weise ich dem Gebäude (Linie) den Tag mit der Hausnummer 
zu. Ich habe auch schon gesehen, daß die Hausnummer extra (als Node) 
gemapt wurde.


Was ist den grundsätzlich besser? Gibt es ein bevorzugtes Mapping für 
Routings?


Grüße sendet Lars

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Nachtrag: ich will es nicht verschweigen, aber der Standardfall ist
wohl eher, dass man "zwei" Gebäude zeichnet. Aber das wirft dann in
der Tat eben genau die Diskussion hervor, die du selbst angesprochen
hast: es ist physisch meist nur "ein" Gebäude

Am 01.09.2015 um 16:50 schrieb Harald Hartmann:
> Also ich bin ein Verfechter davon, in diesem Fall die Hausnummer
> ganz klar als extra Node und zwar am besten am Eingang/Haustür 
> (entrance=yes) zu mappen.
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Also ich bin ein Verfechter davon, in diesem Fall die Hausnummer ganz
klar als extra Node und zwar am besten am Eingang/Haustür
(entrance=yes) zu mappen.
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Re: [Talk-it] R: R: man_made=bridge

2015-09-01 Thread girarsi_liste

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On 01/09/2015 08:28, Alessandro Chiostri wrote:
> Codesto è un tag che indica il materiale del ponte, vero ?



No è questo, ed accompagna bridge=yes sulla highway=*:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:bridge:structure


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Re: [Talk-it] problema svolte - casello Piovene-Rocchette

2015-09-01 Thread girarsi_liste

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On 01/09/2015 15:54, dvdzero wrote:
> Ciao
> 
> c'è un problema con questa svolta
> 
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/directions?engine=osrm_car=45.76277%2C11.44970%3B45.76148%2C11.44988#map=17/45.76282/11.44679
>
>
> 
magari i servizi di routing non sono aggiornati, ma io non trovo
> cosa possa esserci di sbagliato su osm
> 
> Davide
> 
> 

Probabilmente da rivedere questa restrizione per andare diritto,
nonostante sia una strada a doppio senso di marcia:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/5448435


Anche se a vederla così, sinceramente mi sembra pericolosetta la
viabilità in quel punto...


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Re: [Talk-de] Doppenhaushälften mappen

2015-09-01 Thread Tom Pfeifer


Harald Hartmann wrote on 2015-09-01 16:57:


Nachtrag: ich will es nicht verschweigen, aber der Standardfall ist
wohl eher, dass man "zwei" Gebäude zeichnet. Aber das wirft dann in
der Tat eben genau die Diskussion hervor, die du selbst angesprochen
hast: es ist physisch meist nur "ein" Gebäude


Nicht unbedingt. Eine Doppelhaushälfte ist ja das zum Zweiergespann "verkürzte"
Reihenhaus, bei dem auch Brandmauer an Brandmauer grenzt.

Insofern sind zwei verklebte Gebäude durchaus gerechtfertigt.

Zur Frage extra Addressnode oder Addresse auf dem Umring gehen die
Meinungen auseinander, schön ist zumindest wenn ein Wohnviertel
einheitlich ist.

t.


Am 01.09.2015 um 16:50 schrieb Harald Hartmann:

Also ich bin ein Verfechter davon, in diesem Fall die Hausnummer
ganz klar als extra Node und zwar am besten am Eingang/Haustür
(entrance=yes) zu mappen.



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[OSM-talk-fr] Marqueurs sur Live OpenStreetMap

2015-09-01 Thread Severin Menard

Bonjour,

Cela fait plusieurs mois que pour moi les marqueurs n'apparaissent plus sur
la carte du site http://live.openstreetmap.fr/, seulement le classique logo
pour image non chargée, comme le montre cet aperçu :
http://i61.tinypic.com/5yxp2h.png

Bien cordialement,

Severin
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Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Marqueurs sur Live OpenStreetMap

2015-09-01 Thread Jérôme Seigneuret

En effet, Le marqueur n’apparaît plus.

Autre remarque : Le titre de l'axe Y "contributions/minute" me semble
incorrect. C'est juste "Contributions count" Le pas de temps est variable
vu que c'est un affichage "Temps Réel"

Est-ce que live.openstreetmap.fr  dispose de l'internationalisation? ou
faut-il traduire en brut dans l'appli?

Jérôme




Le 1 septembre 2015 16:07, Severin Menard  a
écrit :

> Bonjour,
>
> Cela fait plusieurs mois que pour moi les marqueurs n'apparaissent plus
> sur la carte du site http://live.openstreetmap.fr/, seulement le
> classique logo pour image non chargée, comme le montre cet aperçu :
> http://i61.tinypic.com/5yxp2h.png
>
> Bien cordialement,
>
> Severin
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