Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Mateusz Konieczny]

Unfortunately no, I only remember this kind of import given
as an example for wikidata tag may be useful.

See https://m.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Data_Import_Guide 

Maybe it will be useful.

3 Jun 2018, 05:59 by gthapa.w...@gmail.com:

> Thank you for the replies. Is there an example of how this has been done 
> elsewhere? I think dumping into wikidata would be a good option and a 
> solution we will be pursuing.
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny <> matkoni...@tutanota.com 
> > > wrote:
>
>> 27. May 2018 12:47 by >> gthapa.w...@gmail.com 
>> >> :
>>
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>>> collected every year
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> I think that better solution would be to keep it in the external database, 
>> and create/use
>>
>>
>> something to link them.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> For example external database may contain locations of school or this data 
>> may be dumped
>>
>>
>> into wikidata.
>>
>>
>
>
>
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> Secondary Cities Pokhara Project
> Kathmandu Living Labs
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Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Gaurav Thapa]

Thank you for the replies. Is there an example of how this has been done
elsewhere? I think dumping into wikidata would be a good option and a
solution we will be pursuing.



On Sun, May 27, 2018 at 5:17 PM, Mateusz Konieczny 
wrote:

> 27. May 2018 12:47 by gthapa.w...@gmail.com:
>
> collected every year
>
>
> I think that better solution would be to keep it in the external database,
> and create/use
>
> something to link them.
>
>
> For example external database may contain locations of school or this data
> may be dumped
>
> into wikidata.
>



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Project Manager
Secondary Cities Pokhara Project
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Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Mateusz Konieczny]

27. May 2018 12:47 by gthapa.w...@gmail.com :


> collected every year




I think that better solution would be to keep it in the external database, and 
create/use

something to link them.




For example external database may contain locations of school or this data may 
be dumped

into wikidata.

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Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Jo]

This may be better stored in Wikidata. And the OSM school object simply
points to wikidata.

Wikidata has support for such historical statistics data.

Polyglot

2018-05-27 13:14 GMT+02:00 Tom Pfeifer :

> On 27.05.2018 12:47, Gaurav Thapa wrote:
>
>> Recently, in Nepal we have been getting more and more requests from
>> government and private schools to be able to upload more information about
>> their schools to OSM. These in particular include detailed data such as
>> number of boys in grade 1, number of girls in grade 5 and number of
>> permanent staff etc. This data is nationally collected every year by
>> schools and are seen as valuable in letting schools, communities and
>> districts know where there are failing girls in the education ladder or to
>> just understanding general diversity in schools.
>>
>
> The 'capacity' key is widely used for schools and kindergarten facilities,
> for the whole object, thus it indicates the size.
>
> I would not encourage annual statistics about number of pupils in each
> grade in OSM. This can be overlaid from separate databases.
>
> I was initially planning on posting this in the Nepal talk list but
>> decided that this might be something other countries might be interested in
>> as well hence sharing it here. Current, tags that I have found are more
>> generic such as isced:levels=* and grades=*. Do you suggest that we propose
>> tags specifically to Nepal or do you even think data such as this should be
>> in OSM?
>>
>
> isced:levels=*  is internationally valid and widely accepted.
> grades=* was recently pushed by an individual Canadian mapper and is
> controversial since it is heterogeneous in meaning between countries, and
> even within the same country different counting is used (e.g. starting to
> count grade 1 again for the secondary school).
>
> tom
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Re: [OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Tom Pfeifer]

On 27.05.2018 12:47, Gaurav Thapa wrote:
Recently, in Nepal we have been getting more and more requests from government and private schools 
to be able to upload more information about their schools to OSM. These in particular include 
detailed data such as number of boys in grade 1, number of girls in grade 5 and number of permanent 
staff etc. This data is nationally collected every year by schools and are seen as valuable in 
letting schools, communities and districts know where there are failing girls in the education 
ladder or to just understanding general diversity in schools.


The 'capacity' key is widely used for schools and kindergarten facilities, for the whole object, 
thus it indicates the size.


I would not encourage annual statistics about number of pupils in each grade in OSM. This can be 
overlaid from separate databases.


I was initially planning on posting this in the Nepal talk list but decided that this might be 
something other countries might be interested in as well hence sharing it here. Current, tags that I 
have found are more generic such as isced:levels=* and grades=*. Do you suggest that we propose tags 
specifically to Nepal or do you even think data such as this should be in OSM?


isced:levels=*  is internationally valid and widely accepted.
grades=* was recently pushed by an individual Canadian mapper and is controversial since it is 
heterogeneous in meaning between countries, and even within the same country different counting is 
used (e.g. starting to count grade 1 again for the secondary school).


tom

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[OSM-talk] More secondary attributes for schools

[Gaurav Thapa]

 Recently, in Nepal we have been getting more and more requests from
government and private schools to be able to upload more information about
their schools to OSM. These in particular include detailed data such as
number of boys in grade 1, number of girls in grade 5 and number of
permanent staff etc. This data is nationally collected every year by
schools and are seen as valuable in letting schools, communities and
districts know where there are failing girls in the education ladder or to
just understanding general diversity in schools.

I was initially planning on posting this in the Nepal talk list but decided
that this might be something other countries might be interested in as well
hence sharing it here. Current, tags that I have found are more generic
such as isced:levels=* and grades=*. Do you suggest that we propose tags
specifically to Nepal or do you even think data such as this should be in
OSM?


Gaurav Thapa
OSM Nepal Volunteer
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