Re: [OSM-talk] Comprehensive set of GPS track logs
On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:55 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: To clarify you are looking for GPS traces from car or vehicle traffic ideally in one city. Exactly. Tried a transit authority for their bus traces? That would give you plenty of data plus time of day traffic and consistency on routes and the GPS equipment used for the traces. I tried that with some public transport companies in the Czech republic, but they do not want to share their data. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 12:03 AM, Komяpa m...@komzpa.net wrote: First, what I've seen are GPS traces near Baranovichi on OSM: http://osm.org/go/0k1rqeG - try loading those in josm. Second, you might want to ask user http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/doroga%20tv - they run a monitoring service, and have loaded lots of traces into OSM. Thanks, for the tips. On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 1:27 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: What do you mean by comprehensive? You mean, covering all of one person's movements during some period of time? Or do you just mean lots of? I need data that give overal view of traffic in some area. So basicly I mean lots of. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection
On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:03:02 -0700, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: At 2010-07-10 18:39, John Smith wrote: On 11 July 2010 06:43, Chris Dombroski cdombroski+...@icanttype.org wrote: I ask because I think this is the cause of stupid GPS directions at times make a left, followed by a slight right Isn't that a problem with the routing software, not the data? That's what I would think. The problem may be even worse when ways need to be split to accommodate turn restrictions, if the intersection is modeled as four separate points. I like bringing everything together to a single intersection point because that's what it (topo)logically is - a single intersection controlled by a group of signals operating together (or stop signs with drivers co-operating). I disagree with that view. A map is a representation of how it looks on the ground, not how the road is topologically made up. Or are you also removing bends and curves in roads because they have no topological meaning? The first example Nathan gave is IMHO a perfect example how not to map. Regards, Maarten ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Comprehensive set of GPS track logs
On 12/07/2010 08:32, Lukas Kabrt wrote: I need data that give overal view of traffic in some area. So basicly I mean lots of. I have writen a little python script that scrap track pages on osm with a keyword. It gives you the list of GPX sharing this keyword. It does not download the tracks. It gives lines like : 7445661Mon Jun 21 10:21:50 UTC 201088 pointsEbenezer parramatta_ferry.gpx It can run with the name of a city. I have made it to get the list of track made in public transport, against bus, ferry, train, tram keywords. So I have got this stat: tram : 127 tracks, 225227 points, 20100710 bus : 448 tracks, 1565888 points, 20100710 ferry : 171 tracks, 775173 points, 20100710 train : 788 tracks, 3679577 points, 20100710 sum : 1534 tracks, 6245865 points, 20100710 The code is available on demand. -- FrViPofm ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
Dave F. wrote: One thing I can't find is GPX tracks (key: G). Has it not been implemented yet or am I going blind? Not yet! It's next on the list. But you can load a GPX from somewhere on the web (Flash permission stuff notwithstanding) using the vector layers stuff in the Background menu. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Divided/Non-Divided Intersection
At 2010-07-11 23:44, Maarten Deen wrote: On Sun, 11 Jul 2010 22:03:02 -0700, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I like bringing everything together to a single intersection point because that's what it (topo)logically is - a single intersection controlled by a group of signals operating together (or stop signs with drivers co-operating). I disagree with that view. A map is a representation of how it looks on the ground, not how the road is topologically made up. I believe that is exactly backwards. A picture is used if you want to see what an area physically looks like. The style of map that is being rendered by Mapnik, OSMarender, etc. has always been a type of map (in a cartographic sense) that is a diagram of how roads and other mapped features connect with each other, using a defined set of symbols, linetypes, colors, etc. I suppose it could be argued that a topo map might blur this distinction, though it still uses symbology and lines to define the elevations instead of rendering the actual features. It could be argued that splitting the roads into separate one-way ways is a hack for the purpose of convenience (usually to reduce the number of turn restrictions required). I do think that this is an issue of personal style, and that most of the variations I've seen are reasonable. Or are you also removing bends and curves in roads because they have no topological meaning? I remove very little. I draw bends and curves to make the map follow on-the-road GPS navigation, and to look nice. Yes, it's not a seamless intellectual framework for the universe :) -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
On 10 July 2010 02:57, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.net wrote: Hi all, (Deep breath) I'm delighted to unveil a test version of Potlatch 2, the all-new, completely rewritten version of OpenStreetMap's online editor. You can play with it at http://www.geowiki.com/ . It talks to the main OSM server and you can make real edits with it. Wow! This is great. Well done all involved. -- Philip Stubbs ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
Great work Richard. But it still needs lots of improvement to compete with Potlatch 1 (I know, I know, It is still in Public Alpha). Will there be a permanent website for the soon to be legacy version (1.4)? Will this new version stay in geowiki.com or will replace 1.4 in the Edit tab? I will say it again, Great Work! Cheers Julio Costa OpenStreetMap Chile http://www.openstreetmap.cl/ On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 5:00 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Dave F. wrote: One thing I can't find is GPX tracks (key: G). Has it not been implemented yet or am I going blind? Not yet! It's next on the list. But you can load a GPX from somewhere on the web (Flash permission stuff notwithstanding) using the vector layers stuff in the Background menu. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?
Hi all, Wondering if anyone has tried a helmet camera like the GoPro Helmet Hero HD or ContourHD for mapping? The former even has a mode where it takes a 5MP photo every two seconds. Plus you could probably narrate to it while riding along. You might even be able to just look at street signs and have high enough quality to read them later. Anyone tried? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 8:48 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Wondering if anyone has tried a helmet camera like the GoPro Helmet Hero HD or ContourHD for mapping? The former even has a mode where it takes a 5MP photo every two seconds. Plus you could probably narrate to it while riding along. You might even be able to just look at street signs and have high enough quality to read them later. Anyone tried? I've been thinking about doing this for quite some time, but the cost is prohibitive. I'm looking for a solution that can use older Canon CHDK-able cameras. See for example http://diy-streetview.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Great work Richard. But it still needs lots of improvement to compete with Potlatch 1 (I know, I know, It is still in Public Alpha). Will there be a permanent website for the soon to be legacy version (1.4)? Will this new version stay in geowiki.com or will replace 1.4 in the Edit tab? I think the point where it's good enough to start thinking about replacing Potlatch 1 on the edit tab is still a long way off. It's much more likely that, when it moves out of alpha, Potlatch 2 appears and gets used on other sites first since it's much easier to customize. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?
Wondering if anyone has tried a helmet camera like the GoPro Helmet Hero HD or ContourHD for mapping? I have the ContourHD, and while it's a fantastic sports cam, it's not close enough to usable for reading street signs from just one street-width away. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
Andy Allan wrote: I think the point where it's good enough to start thinking about replacing Potlatch 1 on the edit tab is still a long way off. It's much more likely that, when it moves out of alpha, Potlatch 2 appears and gets used on other sites first since it's much easier to customize. Indeed. It's worth pointing out, too, that Potlatch 1 is inevitably 'lighter' than Potlatch 2 (so works better on older computers), and also that as yet, no open source SWF player is able to successfully play ActionScript 3 programs such as Potlatch 2. So I certainly wouldn't anticipate P1 disappearing completely - and that's even before considering the features that P1 has but P2 doesn't yet. cheers Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
Andy, I agree. Actually I was thinking on how to integrate P2 with a new design for our Chilean website. The idea of integrating Potlatch with our own website graphics/color scheme, instead of sending people to a completely different website/graphic (openstreetmap.org) as we are doing now, sounds great. Cheers On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:28 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:20 PM, Julio Costa Zambelli julio.co...@openstreetmap.cl wrote: Great work Richard. But it still needs lots of improvement to compete with Potlatch 1 (I know, I know, It is still in Public Alpha). Will there be a permanent website for the soon to be legacy version (1.4)? Will this new version stay in geowiki.com or will replace 1.4 in the Edit tab? I think the point where it's good enough to start thinking about replacing Potlatch 1 on the edit tab is still a long way off. It's much more likely that, when it moves out of alpha, Potlatch 2 appears and gets used on other sites first since it's much easier to customize. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:47 AM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Julio Costa Zambelli wrote: I agree. Actually I was thinking on how to integrate P2 with a new design for our Chilean website. The idea of integrating Potlatch with our own website graphics/color scheme, instead of sending people to a completely different website/graphic (openstreetmap.org) as we are doing now, sounds great. Hopefully this will help: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Potlatch_2/Deploying_Potlatch_2 Obligatory Oh no now we'll have a hard time banning potlatch 2! That's really quite cool, Richard. Very interesting and useful feature! ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] OSM in the Crisis Congress
hello, We have learned that OSM is one of the organizations participating in the crisis conference [0] from Colombia will participate a member of our community on behalf of OCHA - GTMI, however we would like to know who is the person attending in an official manner by OpenStreetMap. regards Humano [0] http://wiki.crisiscommons.org/wiki/CrisisCongress_-_Participants -- http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?
Recently I've found several examples of nodes shared between two objects in my local neighborhood. The question is: Is this okay? If the objects were routable (eg roads), then the answer would be obvious, but these ways are things like buildings and parking lots, where the shared nodes are the border between the two. I see a case for and against them. Since they're not routable, I don't immediately see a problem. Nodes are simply points, and a point can be shared between two objects, and so why use extra nodes if they're not needed? The other argument is that for simplicity sake, objects should be discreet if possible. The nodes in the parking lot shouldn't be the nodes in the building. And if one would want to manipulate one object (ie redraw the parking lot), they'd need to do a complex manipulation of making new nodes, then reconstructing the way, etc. I don't think there's a right/wrong answer here; I'm just curious about people's opinions. - Serge ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?
I see a case for and against them. Since they're not routable, I don't immediately see a problem. Nodes are simply points, and a point can be shared between two objects, and so why use extra nodes if they're not needed? I don't have a problem with modeling objects like buildings or 2 boundaries this way. 2 Boundaries can share nodes because it models the real world. In the cases where I've gone back and updated for building demolition / reconstruction there was very little extra effort because of the shared nodes. Edits requiring object separation typically involve only a few nodes and is not a big problem. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?
Hi, Serge Wroclawski wrote: The question is: Is this okay? I don't think there's a right/wrong answer here; I'm just curious about people's opinions. This question is discussed regularly. There are people who furiously defend one or the other method but in fact both are in widespread use. My personal take is to view it topologically: if the parking lot in your example ends exactly where the building starts, so that if someone were to move one of the building's nodes it would be desirable to have the parking lot adapt, then re-use the node. If however the objects have been mapped at different times by different people and nobody has really paid attention to the relation between the two (i.e. there might just be a little grass strip or a fence between building and parking lot), then don't use the same nodes because that would be making a claim about the relation between the two which has no basis. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
On 11/07/10 04:18, Kai Krueger wrote: So far the the impressions I got from the members of the licensing group vary from anywhere between e.g. 10% data loss is acceptable to as high as 90% data loss is acceptable (as long as a majority of signed up accounts agree), which means as far as I can interpret, there is no where close to an agreed process even within the licensing group. I was not at SotM, but it seems fairly obvious: discussing whether X% of dataloss is acceptable would lead to a big argument, for whatever value X is. If we have to have the arguments for X, Y, Z and Q all at the same time, that would be an enormous argument! Instead, it seems much wiser to wait until we know the value of X (or, its value at any one particular time, and its rate of change, if it is still changing) and then just have one argument. After all, if X is 99.99%, then there will probably be very little argument - which would be great. Gerv ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
[OSM-talk] multipolygon inners that aren't inside.
It sure would be nice if users couldn't submit bad data. Incorrect data (wrong street name) takes a human to spot, but bad topology (doesn't conform to the rules and a computer can verify conformance) shouldn't be possible to submit. For instance look at this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/542980 Two ways are marked as inners but nothing is inside anything else. The problem is these kinds of errors present a barrier to entry for anyone using the OSM data - if you try to write a by the books renderer for this area you get a spill. To render it correctly you have to test ways marked the inner are actually inside something marked outside. Mapnik and Osmarender render this area correctly so I believe they have inside/outside tests. NoName doesn't render the outers and doesn't spill - I believe it detects the error and handles it in a different way. Maplint doesn't appear to catch this error. If the code in those three renderers (which catch this error and handle it two different ways) was instead in the submission engine the OSM data would be better for it. A few other examples of the same problem: 269371 169869 532010 532014 533606 940715 111577 361745 107964 222633 554456 541196 302153 188115 (when an inner and outer share an edge point you get the same problem). John ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon inners that aren't inside.
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 2:27 PM, John Harvey j...@johnharveyphoto.comwrote: It sure would be nice if users couldn't submit bad data. Incorrect data (wrong street name) takes a human to spot, but bad topology (doesn't conform to the rules and a computer can verify conformance) shouldn't be possible to submit. For instance look at this relation: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/542980 Two ways are marked as inners but nothing is inside anything else. The problem is these kinds of errors present a barrier to entry for anyone using the OSM data - if you try to write a by the books renderer for this area you get a spill. To render it correctly you have to test ways marked the inner are actually inside something marked outside. For better or worse there is no incorrect data. If your parser/renderer can't handle data like this, then you should probably filter it out. You'll have a very hard time convincing anyone to add the data integrity checks that would be required on the API for this sort of thing. Maybe you could write a bot that messages the owner of the relation when it finds incorrect topology? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon inners that aren't inside.
John, John Harvey wrote: Two ways are marked as inners but nothing is inside anything else. The problem is these kinds of errors present a barrier to entry for anyone using the OSM data - if you try to write a by the books renderer for this area you get a spill. A by the books renderer should definitely ignore inner/outer roles and just find things out by itself. To render it correctly you have to test ways marked the inner are actually inside something marked outside. Yes. If the code in those three renderers (which catch this error and handle it two different ways) was instead in the submission engine the OSM data would be better for it. Too difficult - too much logic in the submission engine. Imagine, every time someone touches any of the nodes that's part of any polygon ring, the full polygon validity check would have to kick in. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] multipolygon inners that aren't inside.
Hi, Ian Dees wrote: Maybe you could write a bot that messages the owner of the relation when it finds incorrect topology? Note that the topology might have been correct when the relation was created, and only became problematic by someone else moving a node or so. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?
At 2010-07-12 11:22, Frederik Ramm wrote: Serge Wroclawski wrote: The question is: Is this okay? [sharing of nodes between a building and an immediately adjacent parking lot] I don't think there's a right/wrong answer here; I'm just curious about people's opinions. This question is discussed regularly. There are people who furiously defend one or the other method but in fact both are in widespread use. My personal take is to view it topologically: if the parking lot in your example ends exactly where the building starts, so that if someone were to move one of the building's nodes it would be desirable to have the parking lot adapt, then re-use the node. If however the objects have been mapped at different times by different people and nobody has really paid attention to the relation between the two (i.e. there might just be a little grass strip or a fence between building and parking lot), then don't use the same nodes because that would be making a claim about the relation between the two which has no basis. Exactly. +1. In the case described (building and attached parking lot), it makes sense, as it usually does for adjacent land parcels (landuse=* closed ways) and administrative subdivisions (boundary=administrative closed ways) too. If they really are two polygons of a similar type that share a single interface (edge), then glue them. If they just happen to have parts that seem to lie in the same place, don't. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
Hi all, I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank where the section tags to use in combination suggests 'operator' but the template says 'name=*', 'operator=*'. Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator' if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know the door to ask ? Or can I restore the tag 'name' in the wiki as it was till january 2009 ? Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On 13 July 2010 06:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator' if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know the door to ask ? name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since the official business name=* will be on the health certificate issued by what ever government department is in charge of public health and safety. Where as the operator=* tag is usually on the sign board out the front the restaurant... Obviously other places of business will have official name=* but the business certificate probably wouldn't need to be on display like health certifications... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Shared nodes between non-routable objects?
On 07/12/2010 03:22 PM, Alan Mintz wrote: Exactly. +1. In the case described (building and attached parking lot), it makes sense, as it usually does for adjacent land parcels (landuse=* closed ways) and administrative subdivisions (boundary=administrative closed ways) too. If they really are two polygons of a similar type that share a single interface (edge), then glue them. If they just happen to have parts that seem to lie in the same place, don't. Another case where I’ve found it especially useful to share nodes, even between routable and non-routable objects, is for speed limits. In at least one case that I’m aware of, the speed limit is defined in the law as “on XXX street, from YYY street westerly to the city limits”. The node where the speed limit-changing way split is located should also be part of the polygon that describes the city limits. —Alex Mauer “hawke” signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:40 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.comwrote: On 13 July 2010 06:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Shall know the door to ask ? rectify : knock name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since the official business name=* will be on the health certificate issued by what ever government department is in charge of public health and safety. Where as the operator=* tag is usually on the sign board out the front the restaurant... Obviously other places of business will have official name=* but the business certificate probably wouldn't need to be on display like health certifications... I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we should not suggest to not use 'name' otherwise we will have different tagging when restaurants/hotels are part or not of a chain. Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On 13 July 2010 06:59, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: I would say the exact opposite. The tag 'name' is what you see on the facade. The (optional) tag 'operator' is the name of the chain but we should not suggest to not use 'name' otherwise we will have different tagging when restaurants/hotels are part or not of a chain. No according to the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:operator ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch
Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch? http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=39.111598lon=-94.712041zoom=19 More and more often some tiles take longer to load and endup in the error-image (We're sorry, the data you have requested...refresh your browser to try again.). Here is a link to a screen-shoot: http://yfrog.com/4vpotlatchj This image stays, even if I change the browser or my IP-Address. It also happens when I use maps.yahoo.com (http://de.maps.yahoo.com/#mvt=hlat=39.113862lon=-94.713653zoom=21). Can anybody confirm, or is it just my computer? ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in the Crisis Congress
There are a couple people. I'm representing the Humanitarian OpenStreetMap Team at the NGO round table part. There are also people who wear multiple hats going as well. For example some of the Sahana guys also contribute to OSM. Kate Chapman On Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM, ouɐɯnH fredyriv...@gmail.com wrote: hello, We have learned that OSM is one of the organizations participating in the crisis conference [0] from Colombia will participate a member of our community on behalf of OCHA - GTMI, however we would like to know who is the person attending in an official manner by OpenStreetMap. regards Humano [0] http://wiki.crisiscommons.org/wiki/CrisisCongress_-_Participants -- http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OSM in the Crisis Congress
I should clarify, nobody is attending in an official capacity. There are OpenStreetMap contributors who are attending. Since we are a large open source volunteer project things are much looser than say OCHA. Kate On Jul 12, 2010 12:22 PM, ouɐɯnH fredyriv...@gmail.com wrote: hello, We have learned that OSM is one of the organizations participating in the crisis conference [0] from Colombia will participate a member of our community on behalf of OCHA - GTMI, however we would like to know who is the person attending in an official manner by OpenStreetMap. regards Humano [0] http://wiki.crisiscommons.org/wiki/CrisisCongress_-_Participants -- http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
At 2010-07-12 13:25, Pieren wrote: I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets where I believe it is incorrect. For gas stations, the name of the supplying oil company would be properly described as the brand (e.g. Shell, Mobil). If someone asked me for the operator of the station, I would take this to be synonymous with owner, and it would be unlikely to know who it is (or care) unless I knew them personally, or went there often and saw their name repeated on my credit card statement. I'd like to tag: brand=Shell name=Bob Smith Auto (if I happen to know it) operator=* would be redundant unless it were a third party. Note that despite not being documented, brand is one of the keys in which JOSM looks for a name to render (after name:xx, name, int_name, ref, and operator). The renderers do not, but I believe should, if we can agree on its use. Similarly, while a hotel might be called Ocala Marriott, it is likely that it is owned and operated by something like AQV Hospitality, LLC under a license/franchise agreement. I would like to tag: name=Ocala Marriott brand=Marriott operator=AQV Hospitality, LLC (if I happen to know it) Another example would be new car dealers: name=Fletcher Jones Motorcars brand=Mercedes It was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank I would tag name=*. operator and brand would seem redundant (in the US at least). ref could be used for the branch name and/or number. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Error loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch
Peter Herison wrote: Does anyone encounter errors loading Yahoo-Images in Potlatch? I'm not getting them at all; I reopened http://trac.openstreetmap.org/ticket/2950. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
I've been using the operator tag for library branches (where name is the branch name, and operator is the library system). Same could be done with schools within a school district. Does this seem like a reasonable use for the operator tag? Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before tagging restaurants? On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 3:40 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: On 13 July 2010 06:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator' if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know the door to ask ? name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since the official business name=* will be on the health certificate issued by what ever government department is in charge of public health and safety. Where as the operator=* tag is usually on the sign board out the front the restaurant... Obviously other places of business will have official name=* but the business certificate probably wouldn't need to be on display like health certifications... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before tagging restaurants? I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets where I believe it is incorrect. This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags that look like english words and how people interrupt them. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
If you look at the history of the page this change was made on the morning of 1st of April by someone who doesn't appear to have an entry. I suspect it might just be sabotage, it does happen occasionally on wikis. Cheerio John On 12 July 2010 16:25, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank where the section tags to use in combination suggests 'operator' but the template says 'name=*', 'operator=*'. Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator' if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know the door to ask ? Or can I restore the tag 'name' in the wiki as it was till january 2009 ? Pieren ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
The usage of operator documented in the wiki is the opposite of the standard usage, at least in the food service business (I once worked for a food broker). The standard usage would be to say that a restaurant's name is Smithville Waffle House, for instance, it is a franchise of Waffle House, and it is operated by XYZ Food Services. The franchise name is the one you would most likely render on a map. The average consumer would have no reason to be interested in the operator's name unless they needed to talk to management about a problem of some sort. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator From :mailto:deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com Date :Mon Jul 12 16:31:18 America/Chicago 2010 On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before tagging restaurants? I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:40 PM, John Smith deltafoxtrot...@gmail.com wrote: name v operator is simple for restaurants in western countries since the official business name=* will be on the health certificate issued by what ever government department is in charge of public health and safety. Where as the operator=* tag is usually on the sign board out the front the restaurant... Obviously other places of business will have official name=* but the business certificate probably wouldn't need to be on display like health certifications... That's back to front, as Pieren has said. The name is the visible name of the restaurant, not the name of the corporation that runs the restaurant. The operator, as explained on the wiki, is the name of the company that runs the restaurant, not the name of the restaurant. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
At 2010-07-12 14:31, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before tagging restaurants? I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it. Is operator correct, though? Many well-known chains are franchises, where the actual operator is a company or individual that is named on the business license or health certificate. To use a (hopefully) internationally-known chain of sandwich shops, if you tag operator=Subway, you are saying that Subway operates the restaurant, which is incorrect. Subway rents use of their brand name and collective advertising for 12.5% of the gross sales, and may also act as a vendor for some or all of the supplies, but the owner/operator of the restaurant is someone else. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank (In English the word bank can mean both a banking company and a building which banking companies serve customers. A 'branch' is one particular bank building). Banks seem like a bit of a special case, since people expect the map to display only the name of the banking company. The name should be the name of the particular branch something like HSBC Putney or Santander Hounslow or whatever that branch is called, but I don't think many people do that and it's not really that important. The operator would be the name of the company in any case. where the section tags to use in combination suggests 'operator' but the template says 'name=*', 'operator=*'. Then now the question : how can we determin if we use 'name' or 'operator' if it is one or the other ? e.g. restaurants or hotel might or might not be part of a chain, thus might be tagged with 'name' or 'operator'. Shall know the door to ask ? Or can I restore the tag 'name' in the wiki as it was till january 2009 ? In every case the restaurant or the hotel should be tagged with the name of that restaurant or hotel, which is usually displayed on the outside of the building. If the name of the company which operates the hotel is also known, then it should be added as the operator. I've updated the wiki page on operator to make this clearer. Cheers, Andy ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets where I believe it is incorrect. This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags that look like english words and how people interrupt them. While OSM certainly has some of these, I don't believe that is the case here. I believe the meaning of the word operator is clearly the same in both en-us and en-uk, and that using it as currently defined is completely incorrect. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On 13 July 2010 08:51, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: Is operator correct, though? Many well-known chains are franchises, where the actual operator is a company or individual that is named on the business license or health certificate. The confusion has probably come about from usage on ATMs then being expanded to other usages... ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
There is a franchise tag listed on the wiki. It is a proposed tag, not yet voted on. So, the name tag would have the name of this location of the business, the franchise tag (if present) would have the name of the chain, and operator would have the name of the company or individual operating this particular location. ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator From :mailto:alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net Date :Mon Jul 12 17:51:04 America/Chicago 2010 At 2010-07-12 14:31, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:25, Brad Neuhauser brad.neuhau...@gmail.com wrote: Side note: John, Do you seriously check health certificates before tagging restaurants? I don't usually tag name, just operator, I just mentioned that to point out the name is easy to locate if people did want to tag it. Is operator correct, though? Many well-known chains are franchises, where the actual operator is a company or individual that is named on the business license or health certificate. To use a (hopefully) internationally-known chain of sandwich shops, if you tag operator=Subway, you are saying that Subway operates the restaurant, which is incorrect. Subway rents use of their brand name and collective advertising for 12.5% of the gross sales, and may also act as a vendor for some or all of the supplies, but the owner/operator of the restaurant is someone else. -- Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 12:29 AM, Mike N. nice...@att.net wrote: Wondering if anyone has tried a helmet camera like the GoPro Helmet Hero HD or ContourHD for mapping? I have the ContourHD, and while it's a fantastic sports cam, it's not close enough to usable for reading street signs from just one street-width away. Hmm, good to know. What if you're below the sign and looking up? Presumably it would be easily good enough for things like tracking the surface of bike paths, bridges, junctions etc. Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On Tue, Jul 13, 2010 at 6:56 AM, Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:25 PM, Pieren pier...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, I would like to know how people are using the tag name and/or operator. It was obvious for me that operator might come as an additional attribute but it seems that the wiki is suggesting to replace name by operator. Or at least, it's questionning on the page about amenity=bank: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:amenity%3Dbank (In English the word bank can mean both a banking company and a building which banking companies serve customers. A 'branch' is one particular bank building). Banks seem like a bit of a special case, since people expect the map to display only the name of the banking company. The name should be the name of the particular branch something like HSBC Putney or Santander Hounslow or whatever that branch is called, but I don't think many people do that and it's not really that important. The operator would be the name of the company in any case. In my country, we also use a branch=* tag to separate the name of the bank (e.g. Banco de Oro) or fast food or restaurant name (McDonald's) from the branch name. It's often enough to display just the name (as above) on the map and the renderer or other tool has the flexible option to append the branch name if it's needed or if there's is enough space to display it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Helmet cameras for mapping?
I have the ContourHD, and while it's a fantastic sports cam, it's not close enough to usable for reading street signs from just one street-width away. Hmm, good to know. What if you're below the sign and looking up? Yes, it does capture a readable sign image for the near case, provided that you're not facing the sun (a problem for any cam). It takes a bit of practice to get the aim correct for looking up at the sign as well - in my case my eye to laser aim was different for looking up than when looking down. Presumably it would be easily good enough for things like tracking the surface of bike paths, bridges, junctions etc. Perfect for that - I've even used it to capture house numbers posted on the mailbox when the numbers are large and have good contrast. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets where I believe it is incorrect. This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags that look like english words and how people interrupt them. While OSM certainly has some of these, I don't believe that is the case here. I believe the meaning of the word operator is clearly the same in both en-us and en-uk, and that using it as currently defined is completely incorrect. I agree with Alan. I had a lot of difficulty understanding what was meant by operator, now I just fill it in as if it were name of franchise or brand. It was not the best choice of English word to start with, but we are probably stuck with it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator
So, if we continue to use operator to mean chain or franchise, then what tag do you propose should hold the name of the individual or company who operates the business, and who is referred to in non-OSM terminology as the operator? ---Original Email--- Subject :Re: [OSM-talk] Tag name vs operator From :mailto:ed...@billiau.net Date :Mon Jul 12 19:02:22 America/Chicago 2010 On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Alan Mintz wrote: At 2010-07-12 14:35, John Smith wrote: On 13 July 2010 07:18, Alan Mintz alan_mintz+...@earthlink.net wrote: I think operator has been mis-used. It appears in a lot of JOSM presets where I believe it is incorrect. This is an argument over the use of english as a language and tags that look like english words and how people interrupt them. While OSM certainly has some of these, I don't believe that is the case here. I believe the meaning of the word operator is clearly the same in both en-us and en-uk, and that using it as currently defined is completely incorrect. I agree with Alan. I had a lot of difficulty understanding what was meant by operator, now I just fill it in as if it were name of franchise or brand. It was not the best choice of English word to start with, but we are probably stuck with it. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- John F. Eldredge -- j...@jfeldredge.com Reserve your right to think, for even to think wrongly is better than not to think at all. -- Hypatia of Alexandria ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[Talk-in] Update Rendered Tiles and Map
Hello Every One, I have a map of serving stiles, i have rendered the tiles when i have configured it. Now i want to update my map, But i don't know how to do it. Is their any script render only the updated area or i have to render all the map again ? Please help me. -- With Kind Regards Parveen Arora osmpunjab.co.cc -- With Kind Regards Parveen Arora osmpunjab.co.cc ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Tag Abbeveratoi
-Original Message- From: talk-it-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-it- boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Salemme Guido Sent: 11 July 2010 21:00 To: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-it] Tag Abbeveratoi C'è un tag per gli abbeveratoi per animali che spesso si trovano in montagna? C'è questa proposta: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Watering_place questi per esempio potrebbero essere utili per chi fà equitazione Per l'equitazione in genere, c'è anche questo compendio (in tedesco, ma i tag sono abbastanza auto esplicativi): http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Reiten Ciao, Alberto ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Zoom manuale JOSM
Ho scoperto come fare. Cliccando con il tasto destro sulle coordinate in basso a sinistra di JOSM si può inserire qualsiasi valore di zoom! Ciao Irene -Original Message- From: Irene Pucci Sent: venerdì 9 luglio 2010 11.41 To: 'openstreetmap list - italiano' Subject: Zoom manuale JOSM Ciao a tutti! Ho un altra domanda da porvi, ho cercato di trovare una soluzione leggendo le varie informazioni in rete, ma non ci sono riuscita. Quindi..volevo sapere se c'è un modo per controllare manualmente lo zoom di JOSM, per esempio poter passare direttamente da 50 a 100 (o viceversa), senza dover visualizzare anche i valori nel mezzo! Grazie e buona giornata a tutti! Irene ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Ho riscritto al PCM e mi hanno risposto che c'è un bug in JOSM e che quindi bisogna farlo correggere perchè altrimenti anche con le loro indicazioni, verranno bannati tutti gli utenti. Questa era la mia email : purtroppo lasciando scaricamento automatico in JOSM disabilitato non venivano scaricate nessuna immagine dal servizio WMS, anche selezionando scarica visibili o tasselli errati, quindi contrariamente da quanto da voi richiesto ho dovuto riabilitare lo scaricamento automatico e dopo 3 minuti mi avete bannato nuovamente. Chiedo pertanto che mi togliate nuovamente dalla blacklist e di dirmi eventualmente una configurazione funzionante perchè altrimenti il servizio non funziona e restituisce il tassello NON IN CACHE. grazie e questa è stata la loro risposta : Gentile Utente, il suo IP è stato sbloccato nuovamente. Consideri che l’opzione “scaricamento automatico” di JOSM determina uno scarico sequenziale di tiles. Questo comportamento viene interpetrato, dal nostro sistema di sicurezza,come traffico anomalo provocando il blocco del suo IP. Per ovviare a ciò va disabilitata tale opzione. Attualmente però JOSM, nel caso di cambio di risoluzione e/o di pan, se l’opzione “scaricamento automatico” è disabilitata, non è in grado di recuperare più i dati mostrando un messaggio del tipo “no cache”. Di conseguenza per riottenere le tiles corrette occorre abilitarla. Quindi si rende necessaria una modifica nell’attuale comportamento di JOSM al fine di evitare tale problematica che non è di nostra competenza. quindi speriamo che mettano mano a JOSM il prima possibile... Il giorno 10 luglio 2010 02.15, Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com ha scritto: A me disabilitandolo non mi scaricava più le zone dove mi dava no cache neanche facendo scarica pannelli visibili o con errori e ho dovuto riabilitarlo e dopo 5 minuti ero di nuovo bannato Ciao Stefano Inviato da iPhone Il giorno 09/lug/2010, alle ore 21:50, Michael von Glasow mich...@vonglasow.com ha scritto: On 20:59, Stefano Tampieri wrote: Anche io gli ho scritto e mi hanno dato la stessa risposta. Però impostando JOSM come lo chiedono loro e disabilitando lo scaricamento automatico è andato subito bene, ma appena ho chiesto il cambio risoluzione mi ha messo NO CACHE. Ha ricominciato a scaricare i dati appena ho riabilitato lo scaricamento automatico. -- Stefano Lo scaricamento automatico significa che, quando guardi una zona per la quale non hai ancora delle ortofoto nel cache, il plugin li scarica automaticamente. Se lo disabiliti, il plugin usa solo quello che ha in cache. Se cambi la risoluzione, quello che hai scaricato ad un'altra risoluzione non ti serve più. Ti consiglio di cambiare il livello zoom a 50 m prima di aggiungere il layer WMS; così scarichi le ortofoto con la loro risoluzione interna, così non hai bisogno di utilizzare cambia risoluzione. Conviene anche fare un giro per tutta la zona che intendi mappare in modo da scaricare tutte le ortofoto in un singolo colpo. Poi dopo hai un'oretta per mappare, dopodiché scade il contenuto del cache (questo sembra qualche errore in JOSM; il server del PCN non riporta nessuna scadenza). ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
quindi speriamo che mettano mano a JOSM il prima possibile... la cosa migliore che puoi fare è aprire un ticket sul sito di JOSM e riportare la conversazione che hai avuto con il PCN (tradotta in inglese ovviamente ...) Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
2010/7/12 Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com: Ho riscritto al PCM e mi hanno risposto che c'è un bug in JOSM e che quindi bisogna farlo Che bravi a scaricare la colpa sugli altri... e questa è stata la loro risposta : Gentile Utente, il suo IP è stato sbloccato nuovamente. Consideri che l’opzione “scaricamento automatico” di JOSM determina uno scarico sequenziale di tiles. Questo comportamento viene interpetrato, dal nostro sistema di sicurezza,come traffico anomalo provocando il blocco del suo IP. Non potremmo sostenere che il bug sia sul loro sistema di sicurezza che confonde un comportamento lecito con uno illecito? Abbiamo avuto l'autorizzazione a scaricare i dati; il loro sistema non ha problemi di carico (l'hanno detto loro); QUINDI non hanno alcun diritto a bannarci! Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Intanto sto aprendo il ticket. In ogni caso a me se non lascio scaricamento automatico non scarica niente. Il giorno 12 luglio 2010 15.26, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2010/7/12 Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com: Ho riscritto al PCM e mi hanno risposto che c'è un bug in JOSM e che quindi bisogna farlo Che bravi a scaricare la colpa sugli altri... e questa è stata la loro risposta : Gentile Utente, il suo IP è stato sbloccato nuovamente. Consideri che l’opzione “scaricamento automatico” di JOSM determina uno scarico sequenziale di tiles. Questo comportamento viene interpetrato, dal nostro sistema di sicurezza,come traffico anomalo provocando il blocco del suo IP. Non potremmo sostenere che il bug sia sul loro sistema di sicurezza che confonde un comportamento lecito con uno illecito? Abbiamo avuto l'autorizzazione a scaricare i dati; il loro sistema non ha problemi di carico (l'hanno detto loro); QUINDI non hanno alcun diritto a bannarci! Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Il 12 luglio 2010 15.26, Federico Cozzi f.co...@gmail.com ha scritto: 2010/7/12 Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com: Ho riscritto al PCM e mi hanno risposto che c'è un bug in JOSM e che quindi bisogna farlo Che bravi a scaricare la colpa sugli altri... e questa è stata la loro risposta : Gentile Utente, il suo IP è stato sbloccato nuovamente. Consideri che l’opzione “scaricamento automatico” di JOSM determina uno scarico sequenziale di tiles. Questo comportamento viene interpetrato, dal nostro sistema di sicurezza,come traffico anomalo provocando il blocco del suo IP. Non potremmo sostenere che il bug sia sul loro sistema di sicurezza che confonde un comportamento lecito con uno illecito? Abbiamo avuto l'autorizzazione a scaricare i dati; il loro sistema non ha problemi di carico (l'hanno detto loro); QUINDI non hanno alcun diritto a bannarci! Hanno però tutto il diritto ad adottare sistemi di sicurezza per proteggere i loro dati (o forse, non dimentichiamo, per rispettare termini di licenza o clausole contrattuali...). E mi sembra anche chiaro che nessun sistema di sicurezza può capire se una richiesta viene da uno che vuole ricalcare per OSM o da uno con altri intenti (quali che siano). Volendo, si potrebbe metter su un sistema di certificazione, che permetta di identificare i mappatori e che dia loro un accesso più ampio. MA. OSM è un sistema wiki: chiunque deve poterlo editare; allora creare un certificato che chiunque voglia può usare liberamente renderebbe inutile il controllo. E quindi siamo daccapo. Ciao, Federico Ciao, Simone ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Abbiamo avuto l'autorizzazione a scaricare i dati; il loro sistema non ha problemi di carico (l'hanno detto loro); QUINDI non hanno alcun diritto a bannarci! si, ma finché continuiamo a discutere e a litigare tra di noi non cambia niente. Le strade che possiamo intraprendere IMHO sono: 1. assecondarli: correggere il baco di JOSM (che peraltro sembra un baco vero) e impostare tutto quello che ci dicono 2. dare pubblicità alla lettera aperta come comunità OSM e sperare in un cambio di atteggiamento 3. rinunciare ad usare le ortofoto sono tutte strade legittime e forse è giunto il momento di decidere quale intraprendere. Ciao, Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
2010/7/12 Stefano Salvador stefano.salva...@gmail.com: 1. assecondarli: correggere il baco di JOSM (che peraltro sembra un baco vero) e impostare tutto quello che ci dicono Correggiamo pure il bug (più semplice a dirsi che a farsi), ma la settimana prossima cambieranno ancora il sistema di ban e JOSM di nuovo finirà fuori. Fino a due settimane fa il problema del download automatico non c'era, ora è apparso. Non penso che sia stato introdotto il bug in JOSM. Semplicemente c'era anche prima ma il loro sistema di ban era meno schizzinoso. Fino a qualche mese fa (prima dell'autorizzazione) non c'erano sistemi di ban. Li hanno introdotti dopo l'autorizzazione. Non è ironico? 2. dare pubblicità alla lettera aperta come comunità OSM e sperare in un cambio di atteggiamento +1 Ciao, Federico ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Correggiamo pure il bug (più semplice a dirsi che a farsi), ma la settimana prossima cambieranno ancora il sistema di ban e JOSM di nuovo finirà fuori. Fino a due settimane fa il problema del download automatico non c'era, ora è apparso. Non penso che sia stato introdotto il bug in JOSM. Semplicemente c'era anche prima ma il loro sistema di ban era meno schizzinoso. Fino a qualche mese fa (prima dell'autorizzazione) non c'erano sistemi di ban. Li hanno introdotti dopo l'autorizzazione. Non è ironico? Ironico o no, ti rispondono i 2-3 minuti e ti sbannano. Il baco su JOSM c'era di sicuro anche prima, infatti non scarica fino a quando non lo riabiliti e non c'entra niente com'è il firewall del PCN ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Ho aperto il ticket #5234 e mi hanno risposto così : Comment: Should be fixed with #5207 and #5208. Another suggestion: Use the bookmarking of WMS layer settings to have the same zoom level when you use the WMS again. This helps to keep the cache over sessions. In pratica l'hanno già corretto con i ticket 5207 e 5208 e mi consigliano di Impostare il Segnalibro WMS in modo da avere la stessa risoluzione ogni volta che riapro il servizio WMS e così facendo non si cancella la cache. Bisogna solo aggiornare il Plugin WMS alla versione 22286 Pensavo di essere stato bannato e non andava più niente però impostando il segnalibro a 50 metri mi ha scaricato di nuovo tutta la zona, prima era rossa http://trac.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22286 Anche se ho ancora lo scaricamento automatico abilitato (altrimenti non funziona, ancora) Il giorno 12 luglio 2010 15.48, Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Correggiamo pure il bug (più semplice a dirsi che a farsi), ma la settimana prossima cambieranno ancora il sistema di ban e JOSM di nuovo finirà fuori. Fino a due settimane fa il problema del download automatico non c'era, ora è apparso. Non penso che sia stato introdotto il bug in JOSM. Semplicemente c'era anche prima ma il loro sistema di ban era meno schizzinoso. Fino a qualche mese fa (prima dell'autorizzazione) non c'erano sistemi di ban. Li hanno introdotti dopo l'autorizzazione. Non è ironico? Ironico o no, ti rispondono i 2-3 minuti e ti sbannano. Il baco su JOSM c'era di sicuro anche prima, infatti non scarica fino a quando non lo riabiliti e non c'entra niente com'è il firewall del PCN -- Stefano ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Il 12/07/2010 15.38, Federico Cozzi ha scritto: Fino a qualche mese fa (prima dell'autorizzazione) non c'erano sistemi di ban. Li hanno introdotti dopo l'autorizzazione. Non è ironico? Per niente. Ciao /niubii/ Nessun virus nel messaggio in uscita. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 9.0.830 / Database dei virus: 271.1.1/2998 - Data di rilascio: 07/12/10 08:36:00 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Fino a qualche mese fa (prima dell'autorizzazione) non c'erano sistemi di ban. Li hanno introdotti dopo l'autorizzazione. Non è ironico? A proposito del ban, io rimango dell'idea che ci sia davvero qualcosa di errato nel modo di inviare le interrogazioni al PCN da parte di JOSM o meglio il suo plugin apposito. Infatti, mentre con JOSM, mappo 5 minuti e poi BAN, se lavoro con compegps e le ortofoto PCN, posso lavorare per delle ore avanti ed indietro per la mappa a qualsiasi risoluzione senza il minimo problema. Ciao Erik ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Graian Alps Mapping party
Appena arrivato: Il 12/07/2010 19:59, Xapitoun ha scritto: Ciao Stemby, Xapitoun ti ha inviato un messaggio tramite OpenStreetMap con l'oggetto Re: Graian Alps Mapping party: == Salut Carlo, Merci de ton aide, oui ça pourrait m'intéresser si c'est en Juillet, en août je risque d'être plutôt du côté de Toulouse, donc un peu loin, après Septembre, cela devrait être mieux. Je me débrouille en anglais, donc je vais voir pour d'autres informations. À bientôt. Xavier == Traduco veloce veloce: Ciao Carlo, Grazie per il tuo aiuto, sì, potrebbe interessarmi se è in luglio, in agosto rischio di essere più dalle parti di Tolosa, quindi un po' lontano, in settembre dovrebbe essere meglio. Me la cavo con l'inglese, quindi adesso vedo per altre informazioni. A presto Xavier Ciao! Carlo -- .' `. | Registered Linux User #443882 |a_a | | http://counter.li.org/ .''`. \_)__/ +--- : :' : /( )\ ---+ `. `'` |\`/\ Registered Debian User #9 | `- \_|=='|_/ http://debiancounter.altervista.org/ | ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Piazza irregolare carrabile interamente
Carissimi, Vorrei mappare una piazza dalla forma irregolare con varie strade che accedono e altre ancora che la attraversano. Più che una piazza progettata è un grande slargo dalla forma molto irregolare che data la diversa natura degli elementi concorrenti mi sembra errato mappare con una molteplicità di ways. Penso debba mettere un'area ma viene questa riconosciuta dai navigatori? Quali tags usare? Oppure dato che vi si accede da 7 punti, collegarli tutti tra loro con delle ways? http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlesatlon=15.062lat=37.51709zoom=18 se vedete su google è un gran pasticcio, non rende per nulla l'idea inoltre mette il nome della piazza su una delle strade d'accesso... che fare? Gianfra _ Avatar per Messenger e sfondo per il PC. Creali gratis! http://www.experience.windows.com/landing2.aspx?culture=it-it___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Il 13/07/2010 0.11, Simone Saviolo ha scritto: La situazione non mi sembra così intollerabile. Potrebbe esser peggio: potrebbe piovere... Ciao /niubii/ Nessun virus nel messaggio in uscita. Controllato da AVG - www.avg.com Versione: 9.0.830 / Database dei virus: 271.1.1/2998 - Data di rilascio: 07/12/10 08:36:00 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Ban PCN
Il giorno 12 luglio 2010 17.17, Stefano Tampieri stefano.tampi...@gmail.com ha scritto: Ho aperto il ticket #5234 e mi hanno risposto così : Comment: Should be fixed with #5207 and #5208. Another suggestion: Use the bookmarking of WMS layer settings to have the same zoom level when you use the WMS again. This helps to keep the cache over sessions. In pratica l'hanno già corretto con i ticket 5207 e 5208 e mi consigliano di Impostare il Segnalibro WMS in modo da avere la stessa risoluzione ogni volta che riapro il servizio WMS e così facendo non si cancella la cache. ehmm... cioè ? ho aggiornato il plugin all'ultima versione, ma come si configura il segnalibro del wms? -- Gianmario ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-at] Sommerrodelbahn
Google hilft: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/Key:attraction http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=39304 --Peter Holzleitner On Jul 12, 2010, at 2:07, Stephan Plepelits sk...@xover.htu.tuwien.ac.at wrote: On Sun, Jul 11, 2010 at 11:15:30PM +0200, Norbert Wenzel wrote: On 07/11/2010 06:32 PM, Familie Geramb wrote: wie soll ich eine Sommerrodelbahn kennzeichnen? Derzeit habe ich sport=summer_toboggan verwendet. Aber sport ist glaube ich nur für Flächen zulässig. Das Tagging würde ich also ohne schlechtes Gewissen beibehalten, insbesonder für so exotische Tags wie Sommerrodelbahnen. Find ich auch gut. Die Sommerrodelbahn am Schöckl bei Graz ist als railway=monorail getaggt, was ich aber nicht gut finde. - http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/40454225 Soll ich die auf sport=summer_toboggan aendern? gruesse, Stephan -- Seid unbequem, seid Sand, nicht Öl im Getriebe der Welt! - Günther Eich ,-. | Stephan Plepelits, | | Technische Universität Wien -Studien Informatik Raumplanung | | Projects: | | openstreetbrowser.org couchsurfing.org tubasis.at bl.mud.at | | Contact:| | Mail: sk...@xover.mud.at Blog: plepe.at Jabber: sk...@fsinf.at| | Twitter: twitter.com/plepe Wave: plepel...@googlewave.com | `-' ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt
Ich habe bei der Suche mal die Postleitzahl für Villach eingetragen (9500). Danach kamen unter anderen auch folgende Ergebnisse: Postleitzahl 11, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 8, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 2, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 18, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 3, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 9, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Postleitzahl 25, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich Wenn man sich aber die Eigenschaften z.B des ersten Ergebnis ansieht: * addr:city: Villach * addr:country: AT * addr:housenumber: 11 * addr:postcode: 9500 * addr:street: Hauptplatz * name: Moustache * shop: clothes Woher bekommt die Suche Feldkirchen? Wie kann das geändert werden? -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[Talk-at] OSM Karten für Garmin Geräte
Hallo OSMler, ich habe mir ein vorgefertigtes Garmin Image für Israel herunter geladen. Nach dem Einschalten des Gerätes wird die Karte ordnungsgemäß erkannt, Straßen und Städte sind ersichtlich, jedoch dürfte was mit der Beschriftung nicht stimmen. Es stehen überall nur ???.? wo eigentlich Jerusalem, Tel'Avivo etc. stehen sollte. Beim hinein zoomen erscheinen die Straßennamen ebenfalls als Fragezeichen. Habt ihr eine Idee woran das Problem liegen könnte? danke für eure Hilfe, Felix ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt
On 12.07.2010 14:52, Stefan Brandner wrote: Ich habe bei der Suche mal die Postleitzahl für Villach eingetragen (9500). Danach kamen unter anderen auch folgende Ergebnisse: Postleitzahl 11, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich [...] Woher bekommt die Suche Feldkirchen? Wie kann das geändert werden? plan.at hat Postleitzahlen an Straßen gehängt, siehe bspw. [0]. Keine Ahnung ob die plan.at Daten hier so alt waren, dass sie vor einer PLZ Reform erfasst wurden oder schlicht und einfach falsch sind. Ich bin generell kein Freund von Postleitzahlen an Straßen, aber das ist ein anderes Thema. Nur wenn sie falsch sind, dann kannst du diese PLZ natürlich jederzeit löschen. Norbert [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30360222 ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] OSM Karten für Garmin Geräte
On 10.07.2010 15:01, Felix Joussein wrote: ich habe mir ein vorgefertigtes Garmin Image für Israel herunter geladen. Nach dem Einschalten des Gerätes wird die Karte ordnungsgemäß erkannt, Straßen und Städte sind ersichtlich, jedoch dürfte was mit der Beschriftung nicht stimmen. Es stehen überall nur ???.? wo eigentlich Jerusalem, Tel'Avivo etc. stehen sollte. Beim hinein zoomen erscheinen die Straßennamen ebenfalls als Fragezeichen. Habt ihr eine Idee woran das Problem liegen könnte? Keine Ahnung was genau in dem Image drin ist, aber eine Vermutung wäre jetzt, dass die Karte mit hebräischen Schriftzeichen beschriftet wurde, die du nicht darstellen kannst und/oder die falsch kodiert wurden. Bin allerdings kein Garminspezialist und weiß auch nicht, ob nicht alle Geräte dieselben Zeichensätze installiert bzw. verwendbar haben bzw. ob in den Images alle möglichen Sprachen reinkodiert werden können. Ist der Ersteller dieses Images erreichbar und kann man fragen in welcher Sprache er die Orstnamen gespeichert hat? Norbert ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt
Hallo Norbert, in Openstreetmap sind alle Daten in Ordnung. Nur bei der Suche wird der Postleitzahl der falsche Stadtname zugeordnet. Die Zuordnung Postleitzahl-Stadt kommt also wo anders her. Grüße Stefan Original-Nachricht Datum: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 16:21:32 +0200 Von: Norbert Wenzel norbert.wenzel.li...@gmail.com An: talk-at@openstreetmap.org Betreff: Re: [Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt On 12.07.2010 14:52, Stefan Brandner wrote: Ich habe bei der Suche mal die Postleitzahl für Villach eingetragen (9500). Danach kamen unter anderen auch folgende Ergebnisse: Postleitzahl 11, 9500, Feldkirchen, Carinthia, Österreich [...] Woher bekommt die Suche Feldkirchen? Wie kann das geändert werden? plan.at hat Postleitzahlen an Straßen gehängt, siehe bspw. [0]. Keine Ahnung ob die plan.at Daten hier so alt waren, dass sie vor einer PLZ Reform erfasst wurden oder schlicht und einfach falsch sind. Ich bin generell kein Freund von Postleitzahlen an Straßen, aber das ist ein anderes Thema. Nur wenn sie falsch sind, dann kannst du diese PLZ natürlich jederzeit löschen. Norbert [0] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/30360222 ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at -- Sicherer, schneller und einfacher. Die aktuellen Internet-Browser - jetzt kostenlos herunterladen! http://portal.gmx.net/de/go/atbrowser ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt
2010/7/12 Stefan Brandner stefan.brand...@gmx.at: in Openstreetmap sind alle Daten in Ordnung. Nur bei der Suche wird der Postleitzahl der falsche Stadtname zugeordnet. Die Zuordnung Postleitzahl-Stadt kommt also wo anders her. aus Nominatim: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=35994846 da taucht drin Feldkirchen auf, klickt man auf GOTO, sieht man das Problem: http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/details.php?place_id=555157 Der abgedeckte Bereich ist viel zu groß. Ursache ist meines Erachtens der node http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/240127073 , den openGeoDB erzeugt hat und dann von Nominatim auf eine viel zu große Fläche projiziert wird. Ich hatte in meiner Gegend ähnliche Probleme, da wurden nämlich alle Orte gleich in ein falsches Bundesland gezogen, weil dort ein ähnlich gieriger node war. Lösungsvorschlag: den node 240127073 zu einer Fläche machen, die ungefähr Feldkirchen umschließt. Oder Bug bei Nominatim/openGeoDB melden (was bei mir ungehört blieb...). Viele Grüße, Georg ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Wenn man nach der Postleitzahl 9500 sucht, wird die falsche Stadt angezeigt
On 12.07.10 17:02, Fichtennadel wrote: Lösungsvorschlag: den node 240127073 zu einer Fläche machen, die ungefähr Feldkirchen umschließt. Oder Bug bei Nominatim/openGeoDB melden (was bei mir ungehört blieb...). Nein. OGDB nodes sind place nodes und sollten das auch bleiben. Sowas wie Beschriftungen. Natürlich können place nodes beliebig falsch liegen (oft ist das so) und somit Nominatim vermutlich auf die Idee gekommen sein, das Gebiet größer zu machen, als es ist. - Falls dem so ist, sollte man die Orte durchgehen und richtig setzen (und bei der Gelegenheit auf ref:at:gkz und ref:at:okz nicht vergessen). Die Fläche des Bezirks Feldkirchen ist im übrigen eh erfasst, und zwar als boundary=administrative, vgl. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/AT/K%C3%A4rnten/Gemeinden#210_Feldkirchen_.28FE.29 - das muß Nominatim korrigieren... Servus, Andreas ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
Re: [Talk-at] Gemeindegrenzen
Am 06.07.2010 10:14, schrieb Andreas Labres: Hallo! FYI: Die Gemeindegrenzen (und Bezirks- und Landesgrenzen) sind fertig eingezeichnet (eriosw hatte die letzten Gemeindegrenzen gezeichnet). Schön zu sehen im OSMI: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=kreisgrenzenlon=13.2lat=47.5zoom=7 Wäre fein, wenn das jetzt möglichst wenige wieder zerstören... ;) TIA! Z.B. hatte unlängst jemand einen Grenz-Way gelöscht, weil er sich nicht erklären konnte, wofür der gut ist... /keine/ gute Idee... Servus, Andreas Cool! Wie habt ihr das gemacht? Gibt es eine freie Quelle? grüße, roland ___ Talk-at mailing list Talk-at@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-at
[talk-ph] Weird contributions in Southern Quezon
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Re: [talk-ph] Weird contributions in Southern Quezon
Some observations: - no trace (public, anonymous, identifiable) other than the pan philippine highway - created using an offline editor - intersections are not connected - some geometries similar to the other map: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4135/4785594255_33eaac5fa5_b.jpg On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 4:35 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/5196603 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] PyRoute - OSM
Hi, While updating /searching on the status of thuban -python gis, I encountered PyRoute. Has anybody use / try Pyroute? Probably good for netbook, small devices and tablets later on. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Pyroute Noli ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-legal-talk] License Cut-over and critical mass
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, Gervase Markham wrote: On 11/07/10 04:18, Kai Krueger wrote: So far the the impressions I got from the members of the licensing group vary from anywhere between e.g. 10% data loss is acceptable to as high as 90% data loss is acceptable (as long as a majority of signed up accounts agree), which means as far as I can interpret, there is no where close to an agreed process even within the licensing group. I was not at SotM, but it seems fairly obvious: discussing whether X% of dataloss is acceptable would lead to a big argument, for whatever value X is. If we have to have the arguments for X, Y, Z and Q all at the same time, that would be an enormous argument! Instead, it seems much wiser to wait until we know the value of X (or, its value at any one particular time, and its rate of change, if it is still changing) and then just have one argument. After all, if X is 99.99%, then there will probably be very little argument - which would be great. Gerv We would all agree that if 99.9% of active contributors agreed to the changeover then the changeover had a mandate. Now Gerv, what is your lower limit? for number of contributors overall? number of active contributors quantity of data? I do not accept that a decision can be made without the numbers being set *first*. LIz ___ legal-talk mailing list legal-talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/legal-talk
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
I don't think there is a need to merge the parks with the ABS suburbs or coastline. Better to leave them separate. It is also easier to edit in the future. I have noticed problems with mgkmap when merging anything with the coastline if an admin level is added as it only draws the coastline in garmin mapsource when the zoom level of the admin level is reached. I have been experimenting converting the coastlines to ways on there own and removing them from boundaries and have had great success in getting them now to show up in mapsource. Also I have noticed in potlatch the coastline seems to render better also when having the coastline separate as it will draw the coatline even if the park goes over it. Markus -Original Message- From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of James Livingston Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 8:11 PM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas On 04/07/2010, at 8:11 PM, Markus wrote: Had a look, I like it. It is good you also have added leisure=nature_reserve or landuse=forest as it will render with default settings with mgkmap. The first bits of the data are up at http://osm.org/go/vJBtHMj-- (Magnetic Island NP and Townsville Common CA) and http://osm.org/go/vJAoQAF (Mingela SF). If anyone has any complaints, let me know in the next few days before I start uploading more. I haven't done any merging is the parks data with ABS suburb or coastal boundaries. If someone really else feels like doing that they can. -- James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2997 - Release Date: 07/12/10 04:06:00 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas
One thing to add. If there are rivers or lakes that are marked as coastline inside the parks you need to close the mouth and convert to a river, lake or river bank to render as water. Markus -Original Message- From: talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-au-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of James Livingston Sent: Monday, 12 July 2010 8:11 PM To: OSM Australian Talk List Subject: Re: [talk-au] Queensland parks, forests and conservation areas On 04/07/2010, at 8:11 PM, Markus wrote: Had a look, I like it. It is good you also have added leisure=nature_reserve or landuse=forest as it will render with default settings with mgkmap. The first bits of the data are up at http://osm.org/go/vJBtHMj-- (Magnetic Island NP and Townsville Common CA) and http://osm.org/go/vJAoQAF (Mingela SF). If anyone has any complaints, let me know in the next few days before I start uploading more. I haven't done any merging is the parks data with ABS suburb or coastal boundaries. If someone really else feels like doing that they can. -- James ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.830 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2997 - Release Date: 07/12/10 04:06:00 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Possible vandalism
Hi people I have not been to this area for well over a year, but I thought I had done a bit more than this. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.1192lon=136.3543zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.37294lon=136.10252zoom=15 How do I examine these areas to make sure someone has not undone my work, or can someone please have a quick look for me ? Might be my poor memory and not someone else. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Another day, another bridge...
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:31 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: Wiki suggests that a pitch is any sort of playing field. Infact doesnt even suggest football/cricket (although does have soccer). Suggestions are tennis, skate park, basketball, etc. I think pitch=fishing could possibly be used here, although there are also fishing=yes and leisure=fishing tags, which might be more appropriate. Were you guys serious about this? A pitch has: - defined boundaries - a special playing surface - lines and other markings It's used by multiple people playing a competitive sport. The sport always takes place *inside* the pitch. A fishing platform has none of these characteristics. Even if it was used strictly for sports fishing, it would be a stretch. Steve ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Possible vandalism
- Original Message - From: Andrew Laughton laughton.and...@gmail.com To: OSM Australian Talk List Talk-au@openstreetmap.org Sent: Monday, July 12, 2010 12:24 PM Subject: [talk-au] Possible vandalism Hi people I have not been to this area for well over a year, but I thought I had done a bit more than this. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.1192lon=136.3543zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.37294lon=136.10252zoom=15 How do I examine these areas to make sure someone has not undone my work, or can someone please have a quick look for me ? Open up the area in Potlatch as if you were going to edit it. The hit the u key, it will show any deleted ways in the area. David Might be my poor memory and not someone else. ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Possible vandalism
On Tue, 13 Jul 2010, David Groom wrote: Hi people I have not been to this area for well over a year, but I thought I had done a bit more than this. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.1192lon=136.3543zoom=14 http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=-34.37294lon=136.10252zoom=15 How do I examine these areas to make sure someone has not undone my work, or can someone please have a quick look for me ? Open up the area in Potlatch as if you were going to edit it. The hit the u key, it will show any deleted ways in the area. David Might be my poor memory and not someone else. Looked with Potlatch and no sign of any extra data after pressing 'u' ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [Talk-br] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Potlatch 2 Public Alpha
2010/7/11 vitor vitor.geo...@gmail.com - dedicated turn restriction and route editors Essa era uma promessa do Mapzen, não era? -- Rodrigo de Avila Analista de Desenvolvimento (51) 9733-3488 • rodr...@avila.net.br • www.avila.net.br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Mandou bem na foto...
Vitor, Muito boa a ideia da bandeira do Brasil na foto oficial (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/File:SOTM10_Chris_Fleming.jpg) Já tens video/presentation disponível em algum lugar? ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-de] Mapquest OSM Karte
Am 10.07.2010 09:13, schrieb Markus: Hallo Thomas, Schweizer Karte weckt heimatliche Gefühle... http://map.wanderland.ch/ Die habe ein tolles Auswahl-Menü - gibt es sowas auch für OSM? (die Auswahl über das blaue plus ist zuwenig differenziert) Die Anwendung wurde mittels MapFish umgesetzt. Durch umfangreiches CSS-Modding sieht man das nicht mehr auf den ersten Blick. Das Auswahlmenü kann beliebig komplex/simpel sein. Mapfish gibt es hier: http://www.mapfish.org Lars ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mapnikstyle Germanica
Am 11. Juli 2010 14:42 schrieb Sven Geggus li...@fuchsschwanzdomain.de: Nichts. Ich denke schon, dass Fred einen fertigen deutschen Stil für den Openstreetmap.de Server direkt nehmen würde. Die selben Tiles wie auf osm.org nochmal zu rendern ist ja eigentlich schon ein wenig sinnlos. Faktisch fehtl eien Basis und ein oder mehrere freiwillige die das Teil pflegen wenn neue Map-Features hinzukommen. Das würde ich gerne versuchen. Die Frage zielte eher in Richtung wie komme ich auf diesen Server, um den Stil zu entwickeln? Oder ist es sinnvoller, lokal Mapnik zu installieren(was ja nicht so einfach sein soll) und erst einmal im stillen zu werkeln? Gruß, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx sehr langsam seit Firmware 3.10?
Hallo Benni, ich kann dir zwar bei deinem Problem nicht helfen, aber vielleicht kannst du oder sonst wer mir weiterhelfen. Ich habe seit neuestem einen eTrex H (ohne Karten), das zugehörige Garmin Anschlusskabel und einen Seriell-USB Adapter und benutze das Programm QLandKarteGT mit Ubuntu 10.04. Trotz intensiven Studiums aller Quellen im Ubuntu Forum ist es mir bis heute nicht gelungen eine Route in den eTrex zu übertragen. Ich bekomme stets die Fehlermeldung, dass kein Gerät angeschlossen sei, obwohl ich alle Schritte zur Installation ausgeführt habe, was eigentlich bei der Version 10.04 gar nicht erforderlich sein soll. Gruß Klaus Am 12. Juli 2010 07:21 schrieb Benjamin Lebsanft benja...@lebsanft.org: Hallo zusammen, als ich auf meinem Vista HCx noch Firmware 3.0 draufhatte, kam fast sofort nach dem Einschalten der Satellitensuchbildschirm. Nachdem ich auf Version 3.20 aktualisiert hatte, dauerte das Laden nun bei jedem Einschalten fast eine Minute oder länger, egal ob Warm- oder Kaltstart. Bei der alten war bei einem Warmstart das Bild fast instantan da. Jetzt habe ich dank Gummiramierung ein Neugerät mit Firmware 3.30 bekommen, das die Karte auch so langsam lädt. Gibt es da irgendeinen Trick wie man das beschleunigen kann? Ich habe eine 8GB SDHC Karte drin und benutze die AIO Karte. Speicherkartengröße und Kartengröße scheinen keinen Einfluss zu haben, lediglich die Firmwareversion. Danke schonmal Benni ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen Klaus Diehl ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx sehr langsam seit Firmware 3.10?
Hallo Klaus, in welchem Modus betreibst du dein Gerät denn. Es *darf* nicht im Massenspeichermodus sein, sonst funktioniert das nicht. Ausprobieren könntest du es auch noch mit gpsbabel und gebabbel, damit funktioniert es bei mir unter Ubuntu problemlos. Liebe Grüße Benni On Mo, 2010-07-12 at 09:12 +0200, Klaus Diehl wrote: Hallo Benni, ich kann dir zwar bei deinem Problem nicht helfen, aber vielleicht kannst du oder sonst wer mir weiterhelfen. Ich habe seit neuestem einen eTrex H (ohne Karten), das zugehörige Garmin Anschlusskabel und einen Seriell-USB Adapter und benutze das Programm QLandKarteGT mit Ubuntu 10.04. Trotz intensiven Studiums aller Quellen im Ubuntu Forum ist es mir bis heute nicht gelungen eine Route in den eTrex zu übertragen. Ich bekomme stets die Fehlermeldung, dass kein Gerät angeschlossen sei, obwohl ich alle Schritte zur Installation ausgeführt habe, was eigentlich bei der Version 10.04 gar nicht erforderlich sein soll. Gruß Klaus Am 12. Juli 2010 07:21 schrieb Benjamin Lebsanft benja...@lebsanft.org: Hallo zusammen, als ich auf meinem Vista HCx noch Firmware 3.0 draufhatte, kam fast sofort nach dem Einschalten der Satellitensuchbildschirm. Nachdem ich auf Version 3.20 aktualisiert hatte, dauerte das Laden nun bei jedem Einschalten fast eine Minute oder länger, egal ob Warm- oder Kaltstart. Bei der alten war bei einem Warmstart das Bild fast instantan da. Jetzt habe ich dank Gummiramierung ein Neugerät mit Firmware 3.30 bekommen, das die Karte auch so langsam lädt. Gibt es da irgendeinen Trick wie man das beschleunigen kann? Ich habe eine 8GB SDHC Karte drin und benutze die AIO Karte. Speicherkartengröße und Kartengröße scheinen keinen Einfluss zu haben, lediglich die Firmwareversion. Danke schonmal Benni ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx sehr langsam seit Firmware 3.10?
Betonung natürlich auf nicht und nicht auf darf ;) On Mo, 2010-07-12 at 09:24 +0200, Benjamin Lebsanft wrote: Hallo Klaus, in welchem Modus betreibst du dein Gerät denn. Es *darf* nicht im Massenspeichermodus sein, sonst funktioniert das nicht. Ausprobieren könntest du es auch noch mit gpsbabel und gebabbel, damit funktioniert es bei mir unter Ubuntu problemlos. Liebe Grüße Benni On Mo, 2010-07-12 at 09:12 +0200, Klaus Diehl wrote: Hallo Benni, ich kann dir zwar bei deinem Problem nicht helfen, aber vielleicht kannst du oder sonst wer mir weiterhelfen. Ich habe seit neuestem einen eTrex H (ohne Karten), das zugehörige Garmin Anschlusskabel und einen Seriell-USB Adapter und benutze das Programm QLandKarteGT mit Ubuntu 10.04. Trotz intensiven Studiums aller Quellen im Ubuntu Forum ist es mir bis heute nicht gelungen eine Route in den eTrex zu übertragen. Ich bekomme stets die Fehlermeldung, dass kein Gerät angeschlossen sei, obwohl ich alle Schritte zur Installation ausgeführt habe, was eigentlich bei der Version 10.04 gar nicht erforderlich sein soll. Gruß Klaus Am 12. Juli 2010 07:21 schrieb Benjamin Lebsanft benja...@lebsanft.org: Hallo zusammen, als ich auf meinem Vista HCx noch Firmware 3.0 draufhatte, kam fast sofort nach dem Einschalten der Satellitensuchbildschirm. Nachdem ich auf Version 3.20 aktualisiert hatte, dauerte das Laden nun bei jedem Einschalten fast eine Minute oder länger, egal ob Warm- oder Kaltstart. Bei der alten war bei einem Warmstart das Bild fast instantan da. Jetzt habe ich dank Gummiramierung ein Neugerät mit Firmware 3.30 bekommen, das die Karte auch so langsam lädt. Gibt es da irgendeinen Trick wie man das beschleunigen kann? Ich habe eine 8GB SDHC Karte drin und benutze die AIO Karte. Speicherkartengröße und Kartengröße scheinen keinen Einfluss zu haben, lediglich die Firmwareversion. Danke schonmal Benni ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Travelling salesman braucht tagelang zum Starten
Am 11.07.2010 20:12, schrieb Marcus Wolschon: Die Zielgruppe von TS liegt eher im akademischen Bereich als Platform zum Experimentieren mit Routing-Algorithmen, Metriken, Karten-Datenbanken, Render-Routinen, Fahranweisungen,... Das ist nichts was man sich so schnell mal installiert und glücklich ist. Da bietet sich eher ein kommerzielles TomTom oder PolNav oder Travelbook an. Hallo Tirkon, versuche es doch mal mit NaviPOWM. Es gibt Versionen für Windows, Linux und WinCE. http://sourceforge.net/projects/navipowm/ Die aktuelle Position wird angezeigt und du kannst tracing einschalten. Aktuelle OSM-Karten gibt es hier. http://dev.openstreetmap.de/navipowmmaps/TileMap.htm oder du kannst sie mit OSM2POWM aus aktuellen x.osm selbst erzeugen (z.B. niedersachsen.osm) http://download.geofabrik.de/osm/europe/germany/ Gruß Dieter Jasper Marcus ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx sehr langsam seit Firmware 3.10?
Hallo! Benjamin Lebsanft wrote: Gibt es da irgendeinen Trick wie man das beschleunigen kann? Ich habe eine 8GB SDHC Karte drin und benutze die AIO Karte. Speicherkartengröße und Kartengröße scheinen keinen Einfluss zu haben, lediglich die Firmwareversion. Ich betreibe auch ein Vista HCx, mit einer 2GB Karte, und kann mich nicht über langsames Laden beschweren. Habe aber mal gelesen, daß größere SD-Karten laut Garmin langsamer sein sollen. Vielleicht liegt's auch an den vielen Layern der AIO, hast Du's mal mit einer einfachen Karte probiert? Benjamin Lebsanft wrote: Jetzt habe ich dank Gummiramierung ein Neugerät mit Firmware 3.30 bekommen, das die Karte auch so langsam lädt. Nachdem mein Vista auch unter Gummiablösung leidet: Wie alt war Deines und was hast Du gemacht, um es getauscht zu bekommen? bye Nop -- View this message in context: http://gis.638310.n2.nabble.com/Garmin-eTrex-Vista-HCx-sehr-langsam-seit-Firmware-3-10-tp5281656p5281958.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Garmin eTrex Vista HCx sehr langsam seit Firmware 3.10?
Hi, nachdem ein und dieselbe Karte je nach Firmware zackig lädt oder eben nicht, schließe ich aus, dass es an der Karte liegt. Mein Gerät war etwa 9 Monate alt, RMA Anfrage bei Garmin gestellt, Formulare per Mail bekommen, hingeschickt, in 4 Tagen ein Neues bekommen. Liebe Grǘße Benni On Mo, 2010-07-12 at 00:57 -0700, NopMap wrote: Hallo! Benjamin Lebsanft wrote: Gibt es da irgendeinen Trick wie man das beschleunigen kann? Ich habe eine 8GB SDHC Karte drin und benutze die AIO Karte. Speicherkartengröße und Kartengröße scheinen keinen Einfluss zu haben, lediglich die Firmwareversion. Ich betreibe auch ein Vista HCx, mit einer 2GB Karte, und kann mich nicht über langsames Laden beschweren. Habe aber mal gelesen, daß größere SD-Karten laut Garmin langsamer sein sollen. Vielleicht liegt's auch an den vielen Layern der AIO, hast Du's mal mit einer einfachen Karte probiert? Benjamin Lebsanft wrote: Jetzt habe ich dank Gummiramierung ein Neugerät mit Firmware 3.30 bekommen, das die Karte auch so langsam lädt. Nachdem mein Vista auch unter Gummiablösung leidet: Wie alt war Deines und was hast Du gemacht, um es getauscht zu bekommen? bye Nop signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] AIO wird nicht mehr aktualisiert?
Das AIO-Europa vom 28.06. hat noch problemlos funktioniert. K.a. ob man die noch irgendwo bekommt. Ansonsten die Karte von z.B. Computerteddy (http://openstreetmap.teddynetz.de/latest/eu_rout.tgz). Gruß Boris Am 11.07.2010 23:39, schrieb SteMo: Habt Ihr denn irgendwo ein definitiv funktionierendes img-file, das ich mal zum Testen auf meinem Gerät nehmen könnte? Ich schätze ja sonst auf einen Fehler in der AIO-Datei. Cheers, Stefan schrieb Boris Wagner, am 11.07.10 21:23: Ja, aber die hier genutzten Geräte (Oregon und Vista HCx) verkraften auf jeden Fall 4GB Kartenfiles. Am 11.07.2010 21:03, schrieb Johann H. Addicks: Am 11.07.2010 14:02, produdzierte Boris Wagner noch mehr TOFU: Mhh, zu groß ist, denke ich, nicht das Problem. Habe ein 3,9GB img mit kommerziellen Garminkarte ohne Probleme auf dem Gerät laufen. Viele (ältere) Garmin-Geräte verkraften zwar SDHC-Karten (auch mit 8GB), aber keine (einzel-)IMGs größer 2GB. -jha- ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Mapnik und Osmosis: Auswertung von Tag-Auflistungen
Moin ! schon mehrfach wurde diskuttiert das bei Nodes mit mehreren Eigenschaften pro Key diese durch ; getrennt aufgelistet werden. Kann mir einer von Euch sagen ob Mapnik bzw. Osmarender (Filterfunktion) dieses schon berücksichtigen können ? Gruß Jan :-) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Mapnikstyle Germanica
Martin Simon grenzde...@gmail.com wrote: Die Frage zielte eher in Richtung wie komme ich auf diesen Server, um den Stil zu entwickeln? Der Tileserver tile.openstreetmap.de ist eien Produktionsmaschine. Für tests kann ich Dir aber einen account auf dem devserver machen der hat auch eine rendering toolchain drauf. Am besten kontaktiertst Du mich mal direkt. Oder ist es sinnvoller, lokal Mapnik zu installieren (was ja nicht so einfach sein soll) Rocketscience ist das auch nicht. Am aufwendigsten ist das aufsetzen der Postgis. Ich hab das inzwischen zu oft gemacht um noch beurteilen zu können wie schwierig das ist. und erst einmal im stillen zu werkeln? Beides kann man machen. Ein lokaler Mapnik ist natürlich insofern geschickter als dass man da einfach mal schnell ne handvoll Tiles rendern kann und direkt über das Dateisystem und Openlayers auf die frisch erzeugten Tiles zugreifen kann. Wie das alles geht ist aber im Wiki brauchbar beschrieben. Wenn man das alles auf nem Server im Netz hat muss man halt dort die Styles editieren und das rendern anwerfen. Auch das geht natürlich. Auf die Tiles greift man dann über http zu. Gruss Sven -- The main thing to note is that when you choose open source you don't get a Windows operating system. (from http://www.dell.com/ubuntu) /me is gig...@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
