Re: [talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)
Note that the "C" part is for club in SLSC. The social part can be the community around the volunteer life saving bit. e.g. https://uminaslsc.org.au/ I agree that there are 2 parts though. The life saving part, and the "clubhouse" that also has a bar & restaurant etc. I would tag them as 2 nodes. I think you could have the same issue for rowing clubs. There are a bunch of people that do rowing, and have a boat shed, but there's also a restaurant upstairs that you might want to visit even if you don't care for rowing. - Ben. On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 13:08, Graeme Fitzpatrick wrote: > > On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 17:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> >> I have a similar difficulty with club=surf_life_saving, >> emergency=lifesaver, lifesaver=base ... as that does not render. If put >> on the building then the name of the club renders.. Having gone along the >> coast of NSW and put them to nodes and entered a few more off the DCS Base >> Map .. I am now going along and setting the details on the associated >> building... sigh. > > > Warin & I have discussed this topic recently on a changeset: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123785819, & are sort of in two > minds about it, so it's probably a good idea to put it out to get > everybody's thoughts. > > I've recently finished tidying up & adding details right along the GC > beaches, including all the Surf Clubs. > > As most of you would know, Surf Clubs & SLSCs are, more or less, two > separate things - the Surf Club is the social side of things, which houses > the bar, restaurant & Gaming Room, is usually open to the public, seven > days/week, from morning till late at night, & is usually upstairs in the > building. > > The actual SLSC / lifesavers are downstairs in that building, where the > First Aid room is located, are usually only present Sa-Su 8-18 between Sept > - April. They will frequently have a different contact number / > website/page to the Surf Club. > > I have been tagging them like so: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41751839, as a building named "xxx Surf > Club", tagged as a club= surf_life_saving; together with a separate node > for the SLSC: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5419450227, named "xxx > SLSC", tagged as emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=base + > leisure=sports_centre (which I know is certainly not great, but is the only > way I can find to render the name as lifeguard doesn't render :-(), > together with their operating hours & contact details. > > So, what do we all think is the best option for having, & showing, 2 lots > of info for the same premises? > > Thanks > > Graeme > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > -- Ben Kelley ben.kel...@gmail.com https://mrebenezer.blogspot.com/ This message was sent on my Atari 400 ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?
I've now asked them for proof that the church exists, but probably a waste of time. Thanks Graeme On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 12:39, Little Maps wrote: > I chanced upon the supposed new “Ballan - Corio Motorway (M8)” this > morning too. This must be a complete fabrication. It goes straight through > the Brisbane Ranges NP and there would have been an outcry if such a road > was even proposed, let alone completed. I fully support reverting all of > the changes. Cheers Ian > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] Surf Clubs & Lifesavers (Prv: Head or point on non-coastal land)
On Tue, 26 Jul 2022 at 17:31, Warin <61sundow...@gmail.com> wrote: > > I have a similar difficulty with club=surf_life_saving, > emergency=lifesaver, lifesaver=base ... as that does not render. If put > on the building then the name of the club renders.. Having gone along the > coast of NSW and put them to nodes and entered a few more off the DCS Base > Map .. I am now going along and setting the details on the associated > building... sigh. Warin & I have discussed this topic recently on a changeset: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/123785819, & are sort of in two minds about it, so it's probably a good idea to put it out to get everybody's thoughts. I've recently finished tidying up & adding details right along the GC beaches, including all the Surf Clubs. As most of you would know, Surf Clubs & SLSCs are, more or less, two separate things - the Surf Club is the social side of things, which houses the bar, restaurant & Gaming Room, is usually open to the public, seven days/week, from morning till late at night, & is usually upstairs in the building. The actual SLSC / lifesavers are downstairs in that building, where the First Aid room is located, are usually only present Sa-Su 8-18 between Sept - April. They will frequently have a different contact number / website/page to the Surf Club. I have been tagging them like so: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/41751839, as a building named "xxx Surf Club", tagged as a club= surf_life_saving; together with a separate node for the SLSC: https://www.openstreetmap.org/node/5419450227, named "xxx SLSC", tagged as emergency=lifeguard + lifeguard=base + leisure=sports_centre (which I know is certainly not great, but is the only way I can find to render the name as lifeguard doesn't render :-(), together with their operating hours & contact details. So, what do we all think is the best option for having, & showing, 2 lots of info for the same premises? Thanks Graeme ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?
I chanced upon the supposed new “Ballan - Corio Motorway (M8)” this morning too. This must be a complete fabrication. It goes straight through the Brisbane Ranges NP and there would have been an outcry if such a road was even proposed, let alone completed. I fully support reverting all of the changes. Cheers Ian ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?
There's a small chance that they're proposed roads, but most likely they're made up. I think all 3 changesets from this user need reverting. However the names are suitable for the areas where they've been added, so someone has put some work into it. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/1082655836 Bunurong Road This cuts through a marsh, the water treatment works, and a cemetery. It parallels existing major roads which have had recent upgrades and are still being upgraded. This adds two major new roads in the east and west. https://osmcha.org/changesets/124296506/ And a road through the centre of Melbourne. I imagine the Church of Dave isn't real either https://osmcha.org/changesets/124295493 On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 08:56, nwastra nwastra wrote: > Hi > there is some recent mapping around southern Victoria and the greater > Melbourne area that seem to be incorrect and need reverting but I am not > familiar enough with the area to be sure. > The new roads seem fictitious but could be proposed approximate new routes > I suppose. > Could mappers more familiar with the area have a look at these edits. > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/eggsbenedict/history#map=8/-37.981/146.195 > The two with road comments are of most concern. > > https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124295896 > https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124296506 > > Thanks, Nev > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?
Re-posted on Discord for further comments Thanks Graeme On Mon, 1 Aug 2022 at 08:56, nwastra nwastra wrote: > Hi > there is some recent mapping around southern Victoria and the greater > Melbourne area that seem to be incorrect and need reverting but I am not > familiar enough with the area to be sure. > The new roads seem fictitious but could be proposed approximate new routes > I suppose. > Could mappers more familiar with the area have a look at these edits. > > > https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/eggsbenedict/history#map=8/-37.981/146.195 > The two with road comments are of most concern. > > https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124295896 > https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124296506 > > Thanks, Nev > > > > ___ > Talk-au mailing list > Talk-au@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au > ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
[talk-au] suspicious edits in Victoria need reverting?
Hi there is some recent mapping around southern Victoria and the greater Melbourne area that seem to be incorrect and need reverting but I am not familiar enough with the area to be sure. The new roads seem fictitious but could be proposed approximate new routes I suppose. Could mappers more familiar with the area have a look at these edits. https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/eggsbenedict/history#map=8/-37.981/146.195 The two with road comments are of most concern. https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124295896 https://nrenner.github.io/achavi/?changeset=124296506 Thanks, Nev ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
