[talk-ph] osmphgps garmin map updates 20111203
FYI, We have just committed significant changes to the default osmphgps garmin map. Changes includes the complete re-organization of the POIs. Detail here: https://github.com/maning/osmphgps/blob/master/styles/default/points Initial test run looks stable enough. If you have particular issues in your device, report them here: https://github.com/maning/osmphgps/issues Always include the your garmin model and firmware. Enjoy the map! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] new bing imagery?
I don't know if this has bee reported but I noticed hires imagery in Zambales and Pangasinan area that is not green in the Bing image analyzer. Here is Pinatubo: http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=15.141940864401505lon=120.35161627650527zoom=16 Please check you areas and post here if there are indeed new batch of images. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS article
ATMs are using GPS because of the timestamps simply because atomic clocks are very expensive to install on each ATM. Personally, I find it interesting because they found a use of GPS signal other than positioning. However, I felt a certain degree on uneasiness for our increasing reliance to GPS signals in many of our daily activities, considering the planned expansion and creation of other GNSS (GLONASS, Galileo, China and Japan) are far from operational. On Tue, Mar 8, 2011 at 2:11 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: On Tuesday, 08 March, 2011 12:19 PM, Michael Cole wrote: Of course other things went down, eg phones.. Because they were also jammed to stop the sailors using phones to call ship to ship.. GPS is more and more needed but the ATM's themselves do not have gps units.. Unless they were mobile ATMS.. Well that was kind of the point ... The ATMs did use GPS, as the ATM system used GPS for their accurate time signal. No one anticipated it would fail until this test was run. My main business is IT security, and that involves a component of risk analysis. This is the kind of risk which is very hard to spot, and one which will come out of left field and take you down. Which is why I personally found it so interesting. Jim ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] tagging real speed (Re: GPS article)
Breaking the thread to discuss this topic. anyway, here's an interesting news from Google Maps http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/breakingnews/infotech/view/20110308-324118/Google-Maps-now-helps-users-beat-traffic-jams this is one of my future nice-to-have what if we can alter routing algorithm decisions with time-based/real time practical max_speed for garmin to make intelligent routing decisions like this one? we all know the ETA for our units are not even near real world This is only possible if google can collect traffic data. I don't know if such exist in the Philippines. This topic was also discussed in brief during the garmin hackday. At the moment, we don't use any the max_speed tag in the Garmin map for the simple reason that we have very little data. Moreover, max_speed doesn't tell you the actual speed conditions. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] ideas for tracking stepjuan's journey (Fwd: STEPJUAN Bai: A walking expedition for Children with Cancer)
Thanks for all the tips. In the first StepJuan expedition, I gave him one GPSTOGO unit, at the end of each day, he sends the file to me. I then process the file and upload in the website. The process is onerous both for me and Tomas' so I'm thinking of automating this process. The best I can think of is to use a droid phone and send geo-tweets. This way all he do is tweet his current position to show it on the livemap. Any free droid app that can send geo-enabled tweets? On Sun, Mar 6, 2011 at 9:01 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: I think these 2 free apps are useful for this purpose (i.e. getting gpx and csv and emailing it). Android - MyTracks http://mytracks.appspot.com/ http://code.google.com/p/mytracks/ Iphone - Record my GPS position http://itunes.apple.com/app/record-my-gps-position/id405865492?mt=8 Noli On 3/6/11, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: Well what can he carry, a GPS logger is easy to carry and runs fine on batt but it only logs, so what possible device can be used to log and upload at the same time or if it just logs, how often can an upload be done? Once you have something which can upload, you just figure out how to display the logs online using a website or a 3rd party service. Something like Sportstracklive or its competitors let you track yourself live using a phone or similar device and display it live online, the problem with constant upload is the battery drain, and well GPRS charges but im sure an 1200 unlimited 3G subscription might offset that. I know the developer of sportstracklive, he's a foreigner living the philippines. It's cool for live tracking as longs its not a security issue, and allow people to comment or alert people as he passes by certain areas. I know he walks during the day, is there a mobile device charges solar unit :) or a really low powered GPS + 3g unit + solar power charger, or some dynamo that will charge the phone as he walks :) On 3:59 AM, maning sambale wrote: StepJuan is back on the road. For brief background, we helped Tomas and the StepJuan crew last year in mapping his journey from Paguppud Ilocos to Matnog, Sorsogon. We provided him one of the gpstogo units to track the whole journey. All traces are in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/stepjuan This year he is planning to do the Visayas leg. I'm looking for ideas on how we can once again track the journey and show a webmap. Are there any GPS tracker available wherein we can directly interface to an OSM map? The StepJuan crew is looking for sponsorships, if you have ideas, just post em here. Thanks! -- Forwarded message -- Hi firends, StepJuan is walking to town again! This time me and my team will walk through the 6 major islands of the Visayas Region, starting from Allen Samar and will end in Boracay Island, Aklan. This adventure will benefit children with cancer under the Philippine Children's Medical Center (tawid kalusugan program for indigent patients). With this i would like to ask for your help. Attached is a cover letter, the walk IT and our media plan. Hoping for your help and guidance. God Bless. Love and Peace, ~Tomas Leonor Director/ Founder: StepJuan www.stepjuan.com tomas.leo...@gmail.com +639152166693/ +639193622182 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] Timeline for phase3 and so on. (Re: odbl)
OK then, I'm not asking for any legalese interpretation here, just the time-line for the succeeding phases of implementation. No fixed date was given for phase 3 in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Database_License/Implementation_Plan#PHASE_3_-_Existing_Contributor_Mandatory_Re-licensing_.28Phase_2_.2B_5_or_10_weeks.29 However, the OSMF minutes have set it already on March 31st: https://docs.google.com/View?id=d38xqz5_6fj2bcdcm Is this posted in the announce or legal list? On Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 7:43 AM, David Murn da...@incanberra.com.au wrote: On Sun, 2011-03-06 at 03:45 -0800, Richard Fairhurst wrote: Joseph Reeves wrote: without explaining in layman's terms what this means. http://old.opengeodata.org/2008/01/07/the-licence-where-we-are-where-were-going/index.html Follow-ups to legal-talk please, so that those here who have made their mind up one way or the other don't have to read the whole caboodle all over again. What about the important reading who those havent made up their mind, or are worried about their liability if they agree to be bound by the new licence? Maybe what is needed, is a list for these discussions, which isnt so legal-focused, so that the laymen can actually understand what theyre involved in, or maybe instead of 100 people telling someone off for asking a question, one person could give a clear and precise answer and nip these threads in the bud from the start. Honestly, I couldnt give a rats rear-end if someone thinks that subsection 3.7b(c) should have its own title, or that the wording of 'OSM user' should be changed to 'OSM contributor' or the like. Whether that is what is discussed on legal-talk, I dont know as I dont subscribe, but given its name, its only natural to assume so.. What I care about is the big picture of what will happen to all our data and the project in general, looking toward the future. Given the entire project will undergo massive sweeping changes in only 3 weeks, shouldnt this issue be at the forefront of current OSM discussions, or will people start trying to sort out the problems after theyve happened, rather than stopping them in the first place? Im as tired as anyone about these endless threads, but until someone is prepared to give some clear cut answers to peoples simple honest questions, I fear they'll continue. Some have tried to give helpful answers, but others seem to get off on playing the power game and achieve nothing but division within our community. David ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] webmap that plots coordinates and output gpx tracks
AFAIK, ORS does not cover my country (Philippines). I'm using a combination of yournavigation and cloudmade routing (both provides gpx output) for my purpose for now. 2011/3/5 Matthias Meißer dig...@arcor.de: Hi, what about http://openrouteservice.org ? A few more are at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maps#Routing bye Matthias ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] ideas for tracking stepjuan's journey (Fwd: STEPJUAN Bai: A walking expedition for Children with Cancer)
StepJuan is back on the road. For brief background, we helped Tomas and the StepJuan crew last year in mapping his journey from Paguppud Ilocos to Matnog, Sorsogon. We provided him one of the gpstogo units to track the whole journey. All traces are in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/traces/tag/stepjuan This year he is planning to do the Visayas leg. I'm looking for ideas on how we can once again track the journey and show a webmap. Are there any GPS tracker available wherein we can directly interface to an OSM map? The StepJuan crew is looking for sponsorships, if you have ideas, just post em here. Thanks! -- Forwarded message -- Hi firends, StepJuan is walking to town again! This time me and my team will walk through the 6 major islands of the Visayas Region, starting from Allen Samar and will end in Boracay Island, Aklan. This adventure will benefit children with cancer under the Philippine Children's Medical Center (tawid kalusugan program for indigent patients). With this i would like to ask for your help. Attached is a cover letter, the walk IT and our media plan. Hoping for your help and guidance. God Bless. Love and Peace, ~Tomas Leonor Director/ Founder: StepJuan www.stepjuan.com tomas.leo...@gmail.com +639152166693/ +639193622182 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] webmap that plots coordinates and output gpx tracks
Suggestions on what webmap to use for a set of coordinates and then provides a download of gpx track. In the past I use yournavigation but it can't find a route for my current set of points. In addition, the planet it is using is quite old (Nov 2010). I'm considering the use of MapQuest, but I can't find a way to put lat/lon and get the output as GPX in the interface. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] testing the address and street search in osmphgps garmin map
This mockup provides an easy interface to upload business listings: http://ojw.dev.openstreetmap.org/SmallAds/?mode=Introduction On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 8:08 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: On 3/1/11, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, Mar 1, 2011 at 4:46 AM, Noli Sicad nsi...@gmail.com wrote: Do you know any internet server provider in Phils who offers Linux, Apache, Postgres, PHP) and what is their monthly / yearly rate / price? You will have better luck finding a hosting provider that offers MySQL instead of PostgreSQL. :-p Also, most Philippine hosting providers are resellers and have their servers in the US. Anyway, I seem to remember somebody doing a website with a similar intent (but uses a slippy map instead of GPS coordinates). But I can't seem to find it! Yes, MySQL would be the good start, then later on move to Postgesql. This is actually a slippy map implementation in iOS. I will be using Route-Me. https://github.com/route-me/route-me http://code.google.com/p/route-me/ Noli -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Hi, A synopsis of the discussion during the hackday. @ eugene, rally, rem and jc, please add anything I missed. Overview === The OSMPHGPS project was started by Maning 3 years ago (Jan 2008) as a demonstration of what the OSM data can offer to the pinoy mapping community. Personally, I created the garmin maps because I own a garmin device and saw the oppurtunity to recruit mappers for OSM. On the recruitment front, I'm proud to say that the garmin map did in fact able to solicit contributions from garmin users. Recognizing this contribution to OSM as a whole, it was decided that the project should continue not as my personal project but more as a community resource where everyone can contribute and improve upon. In the words of Eugene, I think the OSMPH community as a whole has a stake in the OSMPH Garmin Map to make it the best product of the community. Hence, from hereon, the osmphgps is now an OSMPH Org project. In the coming weeks/months we will start to move the download links from my personal wepspace to the org website (http://openstreetmap.org.ph). In a way, this helps promote our local chapter as well. Part of the plan is to involve other community members in the compilation of the map. At the moment, two (rally and maning) are directly involved. We need more people to participate, this is the prime reason of organizing the hackday last Feb 18, 2010. During the discussions, we tackled several components of the map compilation and outlined some further development points. No actual code was committed that night but I think we have outlined a good framework in the future development of the garmin maps. Highlights of the discussion are as follows: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 People attended: maning, eugene, rally, rem, jayzee Map compilation process - All existing code (styles, typs and build scripts) are available in github (http://github.com/maning/osmphgps). Thus anyone, can fork/clone the repo; customize the styles and; contribute back your modifications to be included in the main map. - The current map is now ~25 MB (and is continuously growing), thus, older garmin devices cannot use our map anymore. We plan to create a generic script so that other garmin users can create smaller maps that will fit older device' storage capacity. Routing === - further work are needed on our routing algorithm, it works for most cases, but we need to document edge cases particularly speed calculations and road class in order to fit them with the PH traffic condition. Rally is doing some tests on this end and it would be very helpful if you (garmin users) can report odd cases of routing problems. City and Street Search == - Last week we started the public distribution of the map with City and street search. In some of my tests, it works, but, lack the robustness of other garmin maps. Sample case: A street is assigned to a single place/city depending on the location of the place node. For example, Street x Y village, Z City can be found either in in X or Y and not both. The problem is that if there are many place=village or hamlet tags within a City, very few results will come out when using the actual city name. This problem is due to mkgmap's dependence to the is_in tags. A better solution in the long run is to use the admin_level polygons in order to assign cities on streets within the admin polygons. The mkgmap devs are aware of this problem and they are developing a solution to address it. On the mapping side, we encourage you to continue adding admin boundaries so that we can use that data later on. POI audit = - Many POIs are still not included in the garmin map. If you feel a certain POI is important for the gps map let us know. On creating custom maps === - it has been discussed in the talk list on developing custom maps for specific user-groups for starters, we will create a generic outdoor map suited for hikers, MTBers and general outdoor activities. If you have ideas on the design let us know. Using osm.org.ph infrastructure === - In the coming weeks/months download and Q/A forum related to the osmphgps map will be migrated to the osm.org.ph domain. An important note here is that the Q/A forum will be used specifically to general inquiries regarding the garmin map. All mapping related discussions should be in the talk-ph list. All for now. For any ideas don't hesitate to post them in the list. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge
No one has added this in OSM? Hmmm. On Sun, Feb 13, 2011 at 10:07 PM, ianlopez ian_lopez_1...@yahoo.com wrote: According to an ad placed on the Philippine Star (Saturday, Feb 12, 2011, Pages E2 - E-3), the road connecting the Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is supposedly the northern/eastern limit of Acqua Private Residences. Plus, Coronado Street is supposed to be extended until it approaches the bridge.[1] According to the ad, it is located across Rockwell (at the other side of the Pasig River) [1] http://ianlopez1115.files.wordpress.com/2011/02/estrella-pantaleon.jpg ; compare with http://osm.org/go/4zhHSBK5Q-- Tony Montana: Me, I want what's coming to me. Manny Ribera: Oh, well what's coming to you? Tony Montana: The world, chico, and everything in it. - Location1: 14.069979 N, 121.32575 E Location2: 14.1598162 N, 121.2425899 E Blog: http://ianlopez1115.wordpress.com/ --- On Sun, 2/13/11, Wayne Manuel wrote: According to the news, the Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is now open. Could anyone check how it connects to Pantaleon? It's still under construction on OpenStreetMap. New bridge connecting Makati, Mandaluyong opened 02/13/2011 | 11:38 AM The travel from Makati to Mandaluyong and vice versa will now become faster with the opening of a new bridge connecting the two Metro Manila cities over the weekend. The 676-lineal meter Estrella-Pantaleon Bridge is part of the government's effort to de-congest traffic in Metro Manila, the Department of Public Works and Highways (DPWH) said in a statement. http://www.gmanews.tv/story/212896/new-bridge-connecting-makati-mandaluyong-opened Wayne Manuel -Inline Attachment Follows- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] request for clean-up and armchair mapping in Olongapo
Hi, Olongapo and Subic Area have high-res imagery. Upon inspecting, the imagery has good alignment with the gps traces. However, I noticed several issues on the existing data in Olongapo poblacion area: http://osm.org/go/4zOBzFDj- 1. roads are not aligned to the imagery and trace (I added a few more and corrected others) 2. road node density needs some simplification May I request interested mappers to have a look and improve the coverage. Btw, do we have local gapo and subic mappers here? Thanks! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] osmphgps garmin map updates
Hi, Just a short notice on the garmin map: 20110223 - city and street search now working via mapsource, roadtrip and basecamp Send to device option - reorganize places tags - add branch in bank names Enjoy! PS. A longish email regarding the hackday last week to follow as soon as I finish writing the minutes ;) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] JAXA ALOS imagery in Sierra Madre(was Re: Northern Luzon Imagery)
jgc and osm-ph mappers, I had a talk with JAXA Sentinel Asia guys and they said this is OK for public use and OSM tracing. Long term wish for me is to get direct access for future Sentinel Asia imagery. Keep your fingers crossed. On Wed, Nov 3, 2010 at 4:24 AM, Jean-Guilhem Cailton j...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, I've georeferenced the JAXA ALOS AV2 jpeg image from 28/08/2008, that is publicly available from the Sentinel Asia emergency page linked from the UN-SPIDER link below. The area covered includes Divilican, Maconacon, Palanan, San Mariano... It can be previewed at: http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/preview/327 WMS link for JOSM: http://maps.nypl.org/relief/maps/wms/327?request=GetMapversion=1.1.1styles=format=image/pngsrs=epsg:4326exceptions=application/vnd.ogc.se_inimage; I do not know about its license. Maning has asked about it. In the meantime, use under your own responsibility. Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem Le 31/10/2010 07:22, maning sambale a écrit : Great! Anyway to have this data used in OSM editors? On 10/30/10, Jean-Guilhem Cailtonj...@arkemie.com wrote: Hi, UN-SPIDER now lists links to pre- and post-disaster (Juan/Megi typhoon) imagery of Northern Luzon: http://un-spider.org/page/3769/un-spider-spaceaid-space-based-information-tropical-cyclone-philippines Best wishes, Jean-Guilhem ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] OSM editor power users face-off (next skillshare idea)
For the next skillshare session, I'm thinking we have some friendly contest between a team of OSM power users using the three editors (p2, josm, merkaartor). Three teams will be formed and each team will use their favorite editor. We then give them some editing tasks (creating buildings, turn restriction edits, mass edits of tags, etc). Each team will demonstrate the quickest, elegant, best way to do this on each editor. Why? Well, up to this time I don't know how to do some of the things I do in JOSM with P2 or Merkaartor. This could be a good/fun learning session for everyone. Some planning maybe needed here. Venue, equipment and maybe a small price to the contest. Pwede kaya? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Hackday Invitation
Bernard, Apologies, I don't have the resources to that now. If you want, you can join either by irc, YM or email. We will try to tackle and answer inquiries. Minutes will also be posted here. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 1:24 PM, doy_n...@lycos.com wrote: Hi, Where interest on this topic but since we cannot attend this invitation. Can you have a video of this discussion and post it? Cheers, Bernard - Original Message - From: talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Sent: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 07:00:24 -0500 (EST) Subject: talk-ph Digest, Vol 31, Issue 21 Send talk-ph mailing list submissions to talk-ph@openstreetmap.org To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org You can reach the person managing the list at talk-ph-ow...@openstreetmap.org When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than Re: Contents of talk-ph digest... Today's Topics: 1. Re: Passi City is in OSM (Anthony G. Balico) 2. OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (maning sambale) 3. Re: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (maning sambale) 4. Re: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (George Tujan) 5. Re: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (maning sambale) 6. Re: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (George Tujan) 7. Re: OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 (maning sambale) -- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2011 22:33:54 +0800 From: Anthony G. Balico anthony.bal...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Passi City is in OSM Message-ID: 1297694034.1897.0.camel@anthonybalico-laptop Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 another first for osm? ;-) On Mon, 2011-02-14 at 14:02 +0800, maning sambale wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=11.1059lon=122.6434zoom=14layers=M -- Message: 2 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:44:11 +0800 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 Message-ID: AANLkTi=66qbw-al9sop4yotvaduq27n7unnxuvqxl...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- Message: 3 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:47:59 +0800 From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com To: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 Message-ID: AANLkTi=rzc9_cty_ijhzs2h_25okzyghjnokg2nfh...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Where: ADMU Campus, Katipunan Road, QC. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- Message: 4 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 10:20:31 +0800 From: George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com To: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Cc: osm-ph talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011 Message-ID: 2f6640b4-6ee3-474a-9c06-137fb63db...@gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Can you stream the event via ustream? On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply
Re: [talk-ph] testing the address and street search in osmphgps garmin map
I know, there are 2 node/way containing: tag k=is_in:country v=Indonesia / and 20 node/way containing tag k=is_in:country v=disputed territory / No node/way containing tag k=is_in:country v=Philippines / since agreed to remove them. Anyway, I modified the style code to add the is_in:country=Philippines prior to compiling the map. Since, it is a required tag for mkgmap. IMO, this should be fixed by mkgmap later since the is_in tags are very difficult to manage. Using polygons and relations of boundaries should be better. No need to re-add the is_in:country tag in the main osm database. Now you only have two contires to choose from: Philippines and PHL. ;) Index testing downloads: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/index_ver/osmph_macroadtrip_index.zip http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/index_ver/osmph_winmapsource_index.exe We are almost there. On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 2:23 PM, Axel Kollmorgen akollmor...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-02-14 10:48, maning sambale wrote: Just today, I compiled a new map and its works! [1]. There are a couple of bugs though, but basically, you can now use the Where to Address to search for streets. We need more tests before public distribution. If you want to test please download the maps here: for mapsource - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/index_ver/osmph_winmapsource_index.exe Please report any problems so that we can isolate whether it is a data or a compiler issue. Enjoy bug hunting! on my nokia n97 w/ garmin mobile xt (5.00.60), this is the first screen after Where to Address: http://osm.kollm.org/osm-ph_garmin/AFImg-12.jpg hehe! pressing Spell Country and then Cancel leaves me the following country choices: http://osm.kollm.org/osm-ph_garmin/AFImg-21.jpg i bet you have an idea already :) ax ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
+1 to all the ideas mentioned. Everything is possible, given enough resources. Part of the goal of the osmph garmin map is to create easy to use tools for anyone to compile their own maps (and hopefully share them). The focus right now is to make the default map useful to everyone. I encourage you to at least try to compile your own maps and work on the customizations. I'd be glad to help you get started. Later on, we will try to compile specialized maps (cycling, mountaineering, marine/sea). On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:18 AM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: eugene, you got my point exactly! been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm was trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very useful particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the gps but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps. this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these mountains plus trail maps and waypoints. i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep on asking are we there yet? i can easily say we are about so and so kilometers away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to do this during recent climb to pulag :) anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if i can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :) rem On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time). But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone? Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also expand the market and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular, then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the rural and mountainous areas. :-D On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also have the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can consolidate the two. in maning's page (http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin) there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but the note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered. maybe, we can, put osm map for the whole country, and then put contour maps for special places/mountains like apo, kanlaon, pulag, mayon, et.al. im not sure how this can be implemented but maybe, just maybe there is a way to put contour maps (just for certain areas where it can be useful) with street maps from osm. this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed. just a suggestion guys :) -- Rem Zamora 0916-55-11-407 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- Rem Zamora 0916-55-11-407 ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
Rem, On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: this will eliminate me having to put two maps in my gpsr and enabling/disabling the mamp whic is needed/not needed. I don't know if you tried this. The 10 m contour map is divided int 0.75 degree tiles. This means you can actually upload just the tile you need along with the OSM map. You can see both maps combined. This works for me during fieldwork. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers
Bunny, We have a few mountain trails already added in OSM. Most mountain peaks are also there (coming from GNS so this needs correction). Using the default map and contour, I believe this is useful already for mountaineers. What we need from the mountaineers are: - more trail/hiking data along with the trail classes (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:sac_scale) - location of peaks/viewpoints/trail stops and other amenities I don't know if UPM or other mountaineering groups are aware of our project or the osmph garmin maps. We can of course design a garmin map for them, all we need are inputs on how they classify trails. Perhaps we can have a session with these group to share how to contribute in osm and then compile their own maps? On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 11:57 AM, Leonard Soriano banito_pi...@yahoo.com wrote: Eugene, Magandang project yan! This is actually important as it can be used not only for recreation purposes but even for search and rescue efforts. I am thinking, if we could start on a case site like a national park that is frequently visited by visitors both seasoned and not seasoned climbers. For example Mt. Pulag National Park. Given the traffic it gets the whole year, the benefits of having a gps map of the park complete with trail and waypoints has a very high potential. For the past years, I was doing trail survey data with the UP Mountaineers and we have covered Ambangeg/Ambaguio/Akiki/ and just recently Tinoc trail. For those people who might be interested, a DRAFT result of the trail survey can be downloaded from this link: https://www.yousendit.com/download/MzZFblFKbWdoeVpjR0E9PQ password: @MtPNP_Draft The trails are already in OSM and some of the waypoints. For the contour data, I do have a digital files based from NAMRIA 1:50K topo maps and if our mappers would want to compile this, I can upload it somewhere for downloads. Napapanahon itong idea na ito. --bunny --- On Wed, 16/2/11, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: From: rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com Subject: Re: [talk-ph] maps for mountaineers/ outdoor lovers To: Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com Cc: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Received: Wednesday, 16 February, 2011, 4:18 PM eugene, you got my point exactly! been climbing mountains myself recently. last data uploaded by me in osm was trail to summit in kanlaon via guintubdan trail. trail tracks are very useful particularly in the outdoors. you need not rely 100 percent on the gps but i feel safer with this info uploaded to my gps. this is also helpful in search and rescue operations particularly in the mountains where road maps are not that important. we need topo maps in these mountains plus trail maps and waypoints. i still havent uploaded my waypoints but i usually save campsites, water source, rest stops, and other important points along the trail sucj as landmarks. and of course the summits. (so when i hike with people who keep on asking are we there yet? i can easily say we are about so and so kilometers away and it will take us about so and so hours hehe) was able to do this during recent climb to pulag :) anyway i hope you guys (the compilers) hear me on this. :) i dont know if i can learn the process but you can rely on me for data gathering :) rem On Thu, Feb 17, 2011 at 12:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Well, if you want to get your hands dirty, you can actually DIY! The Garmin maps are compiled using mkgmap and you just need the raw OSM data (Geofabrik provides Philippine data extracts), the contour data (maybe Maning can share his data, but they were made using Groundtruth from NASA's SRTM data), and mkgmap itself (plus some learning time). But, we could additionally adopt your suggestion and consider adding another Garmin map download which has the consolidated contours for selected mountaineering peaks, and make the hiking/trekking trails more prominent. A mountaineer's map anyone? Hmmm, thinking about it, I actually like the idea! Instead of targeting only the car owners with the OSM Garmin map, we could also expand the market and target also the mountaineering clubs. A Garmin map that still contains roads (so the mountaineers can drive to the base camps and jump-off points) plus prominent hiking trails and contours would be a perfect addition. And if this map becomes popular, then we have another potential source of contributors who can map the rural and mountainous areas. :-D On Wed, Feb 16, 2011 at 10:04 PM, rem zamora pompy...@gmail.com wrote: hey! just thinking aloud here. i know we have our osm map. and we also have the 10m elevation contour map of the country. what if... we can consolidate the two. in maning's page (http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin) there is already an osm map with contour. i havent checked it yet but the note says it is only metro manila map and it might get too cluttered.
[talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Where: ADMU Campus, Katipunan Road, QC. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) irc? On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: Can you stream the event via ustream? On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM-PH Garmin Map Hackday Feb 18, 2011
On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:39 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: But I can't see the beer over irc hehehe. I'll send you an ascii art of our beer mugs via irc. ;) Just update us on the list. TIA! Sure, if you have other ideas we should be discussing, just send them here. On Feb 15, 2011, at 10:23 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: hehe. I don't think my bandwidth can cope with that. How about, (ugh!) irc? On Tue, Feb 15, 2011 at 10:20 AM, George Tujan gtu...@gmail.com wrote: Can you stream the event via ustream? On Feb 15, 2011, at 9:44 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Inviting everyone to a short hackday/hour on Feb 18, 2011. This meetup is a technical discussion and coding on our beloved OSM-PH Garmin Map. Much of the discussion will revolve around planning for the next phase of the OSM-PH Garmin map. If you have some coding chops, have some ideas on how to improve the garmin map or simply interested on how to compile your own garmin maps, we need you there. Bring along your garmin device, your laptop and your own chips and beer. When: Feb 18, 2011. 6:00 PM to 9:00 PM Where: ADMU Camus, Katipuna, QC. Send me a private message to confirm. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] testing the address and street search in osmphgps garmin map
Hi, I am currently testing the street and address indexing for the garmin map. This is a long time wanted feature for our garmin maps. On the current map, newer models like nuvis cannot use the Where to Address option. This is possible for older models like etrex and venture by compiling the map via Mapsource. As a workaround, we converted the street as a POI in order to search for the streetnames. Just today, I compiled a new map and its works! [1]. There are a couple of bugs though, but basically, you can now use the Where to Address to search for streets. We need more tests before public distribution. If you want to test please download the maps here: for mapsource - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/index_ver/osmph_winmapsource_index.exe for mac roadtrip or basecamp - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm-ph_gps_maps/index_ver/osmph_macroadtrip_index.zip Please report any problems so that we can isolate whether it is a data or a compiler issue. Enjoy bug hunting! [1] http://www.facebook.com/#!/photo.php?fbid=1894761334210set=a.1207655236987.2033026.1396878922 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Passi City is in OSM
http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=11.1059lon=122.6434zoom=14layers=M -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GADM Import for Ilocos Norte
Please check the license of GADM. Before importing. On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 8:03 PM, Anthony G. Balico anthony.bal...@gmail.com wrote: Bing map tracing is making the province's road network takes shape. Am now planning to upload the administrative boundaries to put more content on the map. Your thoughts please. Anthony ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Ifugao's southeastern border
On Sat, Feb 12, 2011 at 2:05 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Ifugao's southeastern border looks like it should follow Magat River and it is currently placed about 1 km east of the river: http://osm.org/go/4z1w8Lq-- The river was presumably traced from Landsat which may be off by up to 50 meters. The borders were taken from NAMRIA topomaps and I have no idea if these are properly rectified. I do think the border was wrong and should fit the river. I'm inclined to delete the border along this part and transfer the tags to the corresponding parts of the river. I suggest we separate rivers from admin borders in this case, rivers change its course through time: http://www.geo-tag.info/2011/01/20/map-of-ancient-courses-of-the-mississippi-river/ What do you guys think? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] QC Scout Area Mapping Party on February 12!
Pictures! http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10150129437092597set=a.10150129437037597.332235.345455082596#!/album.php?aid=332235id=345455082596 And edits from newbies: http://www.openstreetmap.org/history?bbox=121.01367%2C14.62163%2C121.04895%2C14.64559 The event was really fun especially the conversations. On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 1:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi everyone, If you just want to meet up and talk about maps, mapping, and GPS devices, then you can skip the morning field survey and join us in the afternoon meet-up. And if you can't come due to prior commitments but would like to help out, then mapping the area from Bing and Yahoo in advance is very much welcome! The attendees can then verify and refine the data you added from data collected on the field. :-) Eugene (osm:seav) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, If you're on Facebook, you can signify your intent to attend on the event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=150032921716419 See you! Eugene On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Our next Mapping Party will be on February 12, 2011, Saturday and we will be tackling the Quezon City Scout Area. This is basically the area bounded by Quezon Avenue, EDSA, and Diliman Creek, and covers the barangays South Triangle, Paligsahan, Laging Handa, Sacred Heart, Kamuning, Obrero, and Roxas. Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=QC_Scout_Area_Mapping_Party Come and join! =) Eugene (osm:seav) -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] mapquest now with global routing
Maybe this helps: http://developer.mapquest.com/web/products/open/directions-service are there any details on their routing algorithm / implementation? ax ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] peculiar barrier=gate and access problem
I have difficulty tagging this kind of gate. The gate is along the main road. There are actually two gates one is for vehicle and the other is for pedestrian. In some cases, the gate for vehicle are permanently closed but allows pedestrian (and also cyclist, by carrying your bike) to pass through. How do I properly tag them in order to properly enable vehicle routing? Do I split the road and create a small way/segment where the gate is located and add: foot=yes bicycle=yes motorcar=no Any ideas? I saw this situation on many roads in Teacher's Village and Provident Villages. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?
On Wed, Feb 9, 2011 at 11:00 PM, Axel Kollmorgen akollmor...@gmail.com wrote: On 2011-02-09 15:40, maning sambale wrote: I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state tag. The db should be a bit smaller now. Let me correct myself: I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state *in nodes/points* there are some remaining (palawan, cagayan, quezon, ...). removing them now (including 'is_in:country' and 'is_in:country_code'): http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/axk/edits . Great! ax ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] GPS co-ordinates on Vcard
There is a spec for attaching location in html: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Geo_URI see also: http://geourl.org/ vcard has also added the GEO spec: http://tools.ietf.org/html/draft-ietf-vcarddav-vcardrev-11#section-6.5.2 There is also a firefox extension that can read the geolocation in html. It should be easy to create a firefox extension to open an OSM map parsing the location from the html. On Thu, Feb 10, 2011 at 11:16 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Just a random thought ... It struck me that a very useful application for restaurants, bars etc, would be to put their Lat/Long co-ordinates on a webpage, in a format that would allow them to be imported into people's GPS units. In the same way as Vcard allows you to do with addresses. Any ideas on how this might happen? Perhaps this is more suited to the main OSM list. Jim -- datalude: information security ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] overlapping bing imagery
Is there a way to un-pack overlapping bing imagery? See example of SCTEX here: http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=10.401683281039183lon=123.99914076328338zoom=18 The more recent image is under an older data. There is probably a significant overlap underneath such as Cebu. In the case of Cebu, the more recent image (june 2009) overlaps entirely with the old (oct 2004). Which is good. http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=10.401683281039183lon=123.99914076328338zoom=18 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] ondoy/bing changed river courses
Hi, I noticed that some river courses have changed recently around Marikina and San Mateo based on Bing images. I suspect its either due to Ondoy or simply Bing's recent imagery (compared to yahoo!). Image date range around this area is October 2009 - Feb 2010. I suggest you guys revisit your rivers for any changes. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage
Use this map to browse for hi-res bing imagery. Once an area was viewed at zoom 14 or higher the updated coverage overlay will be visible even at lower zooms. So far, I triggered several renders in Mindanao: http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=10.192676169866743lon=122.16794058683548zoom=6 I also discovered updates in Zambo Basilan area: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=87288830 -- Forwarded message -- From: ant antof...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Feb 7, 2011 at 10:41 PM Subject: [OSM-talk] Bing coverage To: t...@openstreetmap.org Hi, I have noticed mappers make various attempts to map coverage of Bing high resolution imagery. Some drawed areas around the imagery and stuffed them into relations, others created xml files etc. etc. (see the wiki page [1]) I thought that a world coverage map wasn't feasible with those methods, so I took Martijn van Exel's Bing analyzer and tweaked in a way that it creates a simple red/green map of hires coverage (green=hires available, red=hires not available). You will see that only a few spots have been rendered so far, but that is due to the way it works: You must zoom in to a hires zoom level in order to trigger the rendering. Try it out: http://ant.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/ cheers ant [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage ___ talk mailing list t...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] is the text Province of necessary in the is_in:state tags?
FYI, I believe I removed all instance of Province of in the is_in:state tag. The db should be a bit smaller now. Since the major source of the data came from GNS, a few observations I noticed: - there is state/province labeled Kalinga-Apayao. This should be either Kalinga or Apayao only. I simply removed the Province of text. - no GNS place with Zamboanga Sibugay prov/state label. Obviously, since this is a newly created province. As axk commented, many GNS places are mislocated please adjust the position of these nodes as you encounter them. On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 8:43 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I am doing deletion of Province of in the is_in:state = in batches. Let me know if I missed certain areas or whether to exclude your own mapping patch/territory. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6195067 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6194871 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6180884 On Thu, Jun 10, 2010 at 11:49 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I'm in favor of removing the Province of. On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 6:54 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Most of the is_in:state tags have the value Province of in the name. For example: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/198502660 gns_classification = ADM2 gns_uni = -3354889 is_in:country = Philippines is_in:country_code = ph is_in:state = Province of Bohol name = Loboc place = town source = GNS Question, is it too verbose? Disclosure: I'm appending the is_in:state tags to town and cities points in the osm-ph garmin map. See: http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4035/4677828307_622655ea75.jpg I can of course pre-process the OSM data before compiling the Garmin map, but it would be nice to clean the main data if we agree that this is redundant. The benefit I see with the text Province of remaining in the database is to make it explicitly refer to the province since it is added in the is_in:state tag to avoid confusion with the state from other countries. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] mapquest now with global routing
I don't know if this was posted before, but mapquest now has global routing enabled. http://www10.giscafe.com/nbc/articles/view_article.php?articleid=919733utm_source=twitterfeedutm_medium=statusnet A test here Marikina to Cebu: http://open.mapquest.com/link/9-D3nY6m7C -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] tagging rotund/roundabout
A question was posted in the OSMPH facebook page: Hi folks. I noticed that OSM PH doesn't seem to have the rotundas correctly mapped. I believe they have to be entered as roundabouts instead curved paths or turns. Baguio rotundas seem to be correctly mapped. How do you do that? The same author sent me a similar inquiry via FB message: I noticed that OSM PH doesn't seem to have the rotundas correctly mapped for most of metro manila. I believe they have to be entered as roundabouts instead curved paths or turns. Baguio rotundas seem to be correctly mapped. But how do you do that? sa baguio kasi i noticed that as you entered a rotunda (like the one near Wright Park), my GPS correctly calls it a roundabout and its voice prompt also correctly instructs to take the nth exit from the roundabout. compare that to say, the Welcome Rotunda coming from Manila as you enter rotunda towards UP GPS voice prompt would say turn left and the right. Instead it should have said enter roundabout and exit at Quezon Avenue. My answer below: I think Welcome Rotonda doesn't have a roundabout tag, hence, your Nuvi don't recognize them when giving turn directions. The way I see it 'Welcome Rotonda technically is not a roundabout anymore. = Any other ideas regarding tagging rotunda/roundabout? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] QC Scout Area Mapping Party on February 12!
I propose we dedicate time/session for a bing tracing tutorial (how to calibrate/re-align imagery, etc.) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Trace away! We can always correct things with data from on the ground. :-) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:58 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is bing recent enough for tracing building in this area? On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Our next Mapping Party will be on February 12, 2011, Saturday and we will be tackling the Quezon City Scout Area. This is basically the area bounded by Quezon Avenue, EDSA, and Diliman Creek, and covers the barangays South Triangle, Paligsahan, Laging Handa, Sacred Heart, Kamuning, Obrero, and Roxas. Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=QC_Scout_Area_Mapping_Party Come and join! =) Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] QC Scout Area Mapping Party on February 12!
OK. So for those who can't attend the full day mapping can participate in the bing session. On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 8:18 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sound good to me. I say we do it during the afternoon meetup. :-) Anyway, here are my proposed meet-up places: Morning: McDo Timog http://osm.org/go/4zhTAkYwJ-?m Afternoon: Baang Coffee (free Wi-Fi!) http://osm.org/go/4zhSV_EQN--?m On Wed, Feb 2, 2011 at 6:07 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I propose we dedicate time/session for a bing tracing tutorial (how to calibrate/re-align imagery, etc.) On Sat, Jan 29, 2011 at 12:31 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Trace away! We can always correct things with data from on the ground. :-) On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:58 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Is bing recent enough for tracing building in this area? On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Our next Mapping Party will be on February 12, 2011, Saturday and we will be tackling the Quezon City Scout Area. This is basically the area bounded by Quezon Avenue, EDSA, and Diliman Creek, and covers the barangays South Triangle, Paligsahan, Laging Handa, Sacred Heart, Kamuning, Obrero, and Roxas. Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=QC_Scout_Area_Mapping_Party Come and join! =) Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] RFC re-tag Halsema Highway from primary to trunk
Halsema Highway is the major route/artery in CAR. Currently, it is tagged as highway:primary. I'm pondering on re-tagging it to highway:trunk. Any comments. http://osm.org/go/42gQbAf?way=95954039 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125
We are barely scratching the surface of Bing imagery and now, we have 5,000 km more roads since last month. Data as of 20110201 XML file size : 349 MB Total Ways: 135,609 Total Nodes: 1,599,629 Total Relations: 675 Contributors: 730++ Total length of highways: 65,720.057 kilometers Keep it up! On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 1:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I have almost daily archive since July 2010. I can give them to anyone interested. For other dates, we need more resource to get it from the daily planet. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 12:02 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hehehe. Now if we can reconstruct the history of OSMPH data we can generate graphs showing the growth over time. :-) On Wed, Jan 5, 2011 at 9:50 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Doh! I had a hunch that I mistakenly posted the wrong percentages (blame it on ooo calc). Apologies. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi maning, The percentages are an increase from the 2010-11-25 stats? If yes, then there are a lot of discrepancies. For example for nodes: 1,528,760 / 1,435,281 - 1 = 6.5%, not 9% On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:25 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here, in parenthesis is the % increase: Data as of 20110103 XML file size : 324 MB (+8%) Total Ways: 127,544 (+9%) Total Nodes: 1,528,760 (+9%) Total Relations: 645 (+9%) Contributors: 701 (+8%) of which, 83% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors. Total length of highways: 59,968.586 kilometers (+9%). ~30% of total highways according to the *revised* CIA factbook. Interesting for me is the increase of users and the decrease of total nodes contributions from the top 20 users. Caveat: Version and data history were not analyzed. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the stats right now? There have been tons of tracing since Bing came out. :-) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just some stats of our existing data coverage as of 20101125. XML file size : 304 MB Total Ways: 116,151 Total Nodes: 1,435,281 Total Relations: 617 Contributors: 655 (88% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors) Total length of highways: 56,877.305 kilometers (~35% of total highway length according to CIA factbook) Posting as a reference point for the much anticipated bing thing. :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] sharing my geo trip in Samal and Davao
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/12938 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] sharing my geo trip in Samal and Davao
ADDU mini-workshop photos: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=328393id=345455082596 On Sun, Jan 30, 2011 at 6:34 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/12938 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] QC Scout Area Mapping Party on February 12!
Is bing recent enough for tracing building in this area? On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 8:45 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Our next Mapping Party will be on February 12, 2011, Saturday and we will be tackling the Quezon City Scout Area. This is basically the area bounded by Quezon Avenue, EDSA, and Diliman Creek, and covers the barangays South Triangle, Paligsahan, Laging Handa, Sacred Heart, Kamuning, Obrero, and Roxas. Wiki page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=QC_Scout_Area_Mapping_Party Come and join! =) Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] OSM vs. RoadGuide.ph
On 1/27/11, Andre Marcelo-Tanner an...@enthropia.com wrote: You can just load 2 maps on a garmin device and switch them? or can you view them also one on top of another? Yes, depending on your unit and storage, you can load 2 maps. Combining them is also possible (legally, for personal use only). But, it can be visually confusing for areas with extensive coverage for both map. I have a friend interested in doing a layer of POIs to the PH map, is such possible with garmin devices? Yes, cloudmade has this service (poi gpx). On 3:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: As a followup, I did a visual comparison of several areas where OSM has better data and coverage than RoadGuide.ph: http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com/posts/is_rg_better_than_osm I hope that this will prove enlightening. End lesson: load both maps into your Garmin unit. =) On Sat, Oct 9, 2010 at 3:57 PM, Eugene Alvin Villarsea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, If anyone is interested to see the differences between RoadGuide.ph and OpenStreetMap, then check out this article I wrote in the OSM Wiki:http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/RoadGuide.ph If you have a Garmin GPS device then you most probably have heard of RoadGuide.ph. In my personal opinion, if you want the best Garmin-compatible routable map of the Philippines, then go for RoadGuide.ph, but you should also get Maning's osmphil map http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin since OSM has better data than RG in some areas, most especially if you have not attained the contributor status in RG and have only access to the Basic map. :-) Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Bing Maps has an updated satellite image of Metro Manila?
San Jose, Mindoro http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bingimageanalyzer/?lat=12.354018598177717lon=121.0781912505783zoom=15 Finally found one myself. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 9:30 PM, Ed Garcia eppgar...@gmail.com wrote: Lucban Quezon!!! Oh wow! I was painstakingly working on that area together with my friend (username: seacid) and his personal gps traces. Was pleasantly surprised to see very good resolution on Lucban!!! At least, seacid's traces will make good aligning guide for Bing if needed. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 6:41 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: northeastern laguna up to Pangil...Siniloan was not included just where I needed to do major re-alignments. pagsanjan's covered as well as luisiana. was surprised even brgy. san antonio of Kalayaan, an upland barrio, is there thus I can see the winding road going there even up to Paete's tatlong krus (i passed by those roads many times in the past but not yet with a GPS. the old BWSM data just don't match and way too far off) Lucban Quezon's there but not Tayabas...last year I visited the two towns and will re-visit probably within the month On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:37 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Really awesome given the fact that the first announcement was barely 3 months. I update the list and outline here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/High-resolution_imagery#Bing_Imagery Please add more info. Question? I noticed that the additional imagery overlapped with the previous ones, see my initial outline for eastern Laguna: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96022347 Do I just merge this to the other imagery outline? On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: Cool! very high-res image of my town, i checked it a few days ago and it wasn't there...will trace the missing alleys... will also make corrections with other neighboring towns of Laguna where I always find myself driving off-road :P -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Other new areas covered (no outlines yet, sorry, and not an exhaustive list): 1. Bacolod and parts of Negros Occidental 2. Kidapawan and parts of eastern Cotabato and southern Bukidnon 3. Digos and large parts of Davao del Sur 4. A strip of Camotes Sea from Leyte (just shy of Ormoc) down to northeastern Bohol including Camotes Islands 5. More of Cebu province: a strip going north of Cebu City to just before Bogo and a strip of the sea south almost touching Bohol 6. Southern and eastern Laguna and some parts of Quezon including San Pablo, Santa Cruz, Pakil, Paete, Pagsanjan, Cavinti, and Lucban. Ian Lopez and Tutubi, you can now trace from Bing in your hometowns! And Google doesn't have your towns yet in hi-res. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the barrage of email. :-p And here's another imagery from Bing. This is is a set of overlapping satellite photos and it's huge! It spans from Batangas to La Union and covers the cities of San Fernando (La Union), Baguio, Dagupan, Urdaneta, Tarlac City, Angeles, San Fernando (Pampanga), Olongapo, Malolos, and Cavite City. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=95954039 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There's also new imagery in other areas of the country. For example, here's the outline of the imagery covering northeastern Bulacan and eastern Nueva Ecija: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=95952038 I'll try to look for others. You can also help by using this Bing imagery analyzer tool which I've mentioned last year: http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/ On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There is new satellite imagery! Their satellite image of Eastwood City is even newer than Google's! The imagery in the Bonifacio Global City area dates to around late 2009 to early 2010, same as with Google. But ack! This is both a bad thing and a good thing. Good because we have newer and higher resolution imagery to work with and bad because the imagery does not align to the old one. The image is now fragmented into different parts and many boundaries between images do not line up perfectly. This will be a mess making sure that the data is correct with respect to the average of GPS data. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does Bing have an updated satellite imagery of Metro Manila? And up to zoom level 19 too. And unlike the earlier image, some parts are misaligned. Hmmm... Maybe they also have new satellite
Re: [talk-ph] Bing Maps has an updated satellite image of Metro Manila?
Really awesome given the fact that the first announcement was barely 3 months. I update the list and outline here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/High-resolution_imagery#Bing_Imagery Please add more info. Question? I noticed that the additional imagery overlapped with the previous ones, see my initial outline for eastern Laguna: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/96022347 Do I just merge this to the other imagery outline? On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 10:26 AM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: Cool! very high-res image of my town, i checked it a few days ago and it wasn't there...will trace the missing alleys... will also make corrections with other neighboring towns of Laguna where I always find myself driving off-road :P -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:32 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Other new areas covered (no outlines yet, sorry, and not an exhaustive list): 1. Bacolod and parts of Negros Occidental 2. Kidapawan and parts of eastern Cotabato and southern Bukidnon 3. Digos and large parts of Davao del Sur 4. A strip of Camotes Sea from Leyte (just shy of Ormoc) down to northeastern Bohol including Camotes Islands 5. More of Cebu province: a strip going north of Cebu City to just before Bogo and a strip of the sea south almost touching Bohol 6. Southern and eastern Laguna and some parts of Quezon including San Pablo, Santa Cruz, Pakil, Paete, Pagsanjan, Cavinti, and Lucban. Ian Lopez and Tutubi, you can now trace from Bing in your hometowns! And Google doesn't have your towns yet in hi-res. On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 1:09 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Sorry for the barrage of email. :-p And here's another imagery from Bing. This is is a set of overlapping satellite photos and it's huge! It spans from Batangas to La Union and covers the cities of San Fernando (La Union), Baguio, Dagupan, Urdaneta, Tarlac City, Angeles, San Fernando (Pampanga), Olongapo, Malolos, and Cavite City. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=95954039 On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:34 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There's also new imagery in other areas of the country. For example, here's the outline of the imagery covering northeastern Bulacan and eastern Nueva Ecija: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?way=95952038 I'll try to look for others. You can also help by using this Bing imagery analyzer tool which I've mentioned last year: http://mvexel.dev.openstreetmap.org/bing/ On Fri, Jan 21, 2011 at 12:07 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: There is new satellite imagery! Their satellite image of Eastwood City is even newer than Google's! The imagery in the Bonifacio Global City area dates to around late 2009 to early 2010, same as with Google. But ack! This is both a bad thing and a good thing. Good because we have newer and higher resolution imagery to work with and bad because the imagery does not align to the old one. The image is now fragmented into different parts and many boundaries between images do not line up perfectly. This will be a mess making sure that the data is correct with respect to the average of GPS data. On Thu, Jan 20, 2011 at 11:43 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Is it just me or does Bing have an updated satellite imagery of Metro Manila? And up to zoom level 19 too. And unlike the earlier image, some parts are misaligned. Hmmm... Maybe they also have new satellite imagery elsewhere? -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] my first turn restriction...please check
tutubi, I haven't check your relations in detail, just some general comments. My personal practice is to minimize length of ways that will be added in the turn restriction relation. For example, I split the ways by a few meters from the intersection. The short ways will be the added in the relation. Why? This makes it easy to manage in the future. Moreover, I find creating relations with potlatch difficult. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Relation:restriction#not_splitting_ways Maybe others can share their own experience. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 4:48 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: buendia corner malugay/tordesillas http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/backpacking%20philippines/diary/12838 i will test this next week if it routes correctly...i will be adding quite a handful from QC, Manda and Makati, almost a year after I joined you guys here :P -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Baguio map and points of interest
Carlos, How do you intend to upload the map? Via mapsource, mac, direct copy to garmin memory card? Choose the download options here: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/osmphil_garmin For a visual how-to using Win's Mapsource and Mac's Mapinstall, go here: http://www.gpsfiledepot.com/tutorials/how-to-load-maps-on-my-garmin-gps-unit/ Enjoy! On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 3:59 PM, Carlos Tirona carlos.tir...@gmail.com wrote: It's been a while since I last emailed the group. Been quietly watching the threads. I'm going up to Baguio this weekend. Can someone walk me thru on how to install and updated map and POIs for Baguio? I haven't used my GPS in a while and would like to get it right before I leave on Thursday. Any help would be appreciated. I use a Garmin nuvi 205W. Thanks! ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
I don't think there's any problem. In any case, I requested permission from the photographer. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 6:59 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Can one of these be a featured image (i.e., are the pictures licensed appropriately)? :-) On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 11:38 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=324914id=345455082596 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures? :-D On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I just got home from the GK mapping with Rally. Just an important note, GPS alone won't work on high density slum areas. We tried a couple of approach: GPS, map sketching, compass and a laser range finder. Will post details later. One very cool thing that happened at the end of the day is that our German contact (Philip Paar) donated one Etrex HC for our group! It's on the list now. So if anyone wants to use them, post your request in the wike: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/GPStogo_program On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Have fun tomorrow, guys (or is it only maning so far)! Please give a report on the event. :-) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: GK-Telus Village here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=121.0327lat=14.67399zoom=18 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The slum mapping with Philip Paar will be on Saturday Jan 15, 2011. 2nd GK site Telus Village in Masagana, Tandang Sora (still looking in the map) from 9am until 5pm. Send me a private mail with your cell number if you are interested to join. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo
Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping
Ok. We can do a Potlatch2 demo. On Wed, Jan 19, 2011 at 9:55 AM, Marloue Pidor mur...@mail2engineer.com wrote: Maning, I can schedule a session on Saturday morning in Ateneo, all I need is a list of names of people (for AdDU guards to let you in) who want to join the meetup? My students wants to join the mapping tutorial/meetup. I will provide the facilities you need (Room, DLP Projector, etc...) Please sign up below: 1. Maning Sambale 2. Frank Woolf 3. George Tujan -Original Message- From: Frank Woolf [fr...@frankwoolf.com] Sent: 1/18/2011 5:30:50 PM To: talk-ph@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [talk-ph] Davao Mapping I would be interested to meet other Davao Mappers. Please let me know what your plans are. I have mostly concentrated on Samal Island as I have various properties there and when I started using a GPS the were almost no roads on the Map. I have added a lot using my own tracks and hope to get around to doing more. I stopped when the OSM map configuration changed and the map for Davao included so many other countries and area it became so big that I had problems downloading the huge files. Regards Frank On Jan 18, 2011, at 11:39 AM, talk-ph-requ...@openstreetmap.org wrote: Message: 5 Date: Tue, 18 Jan 2011 10:38:40 +0800 From: maning sambale To: osm-ph Subject: [talk-ph] davao meetup? Message-ID: aanlktikncjl013wwj0m2fnji4hrtv0fsbdfc+rox-...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Davao mappers, I will be down south next week. Perhaps a short mapping/tutorial/meetup on Saturday Jan 29 before I fly back home? -- cheers, maning ___ Get the Free email that has everyone talking at http://www.mail2world.com Unlimited Email Storage – POP3 – Calendar – SMS – Translator – Much More! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] bridges and roads oftentimes have different names
When I edit a long road and encountered a river/stream crossing the road, I split the road into three and then add a bridge tag to the new road over the river. In most cases, the bridge has a different name from the connected road. Sometimes I forget to do this, but you should also edit the name tag for the name of the bridge or remove the name tag if you don't know the bridge name. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] 2011 Mapping party suggestions
Any ideas for mapping events this year? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/Mapping_Party#Proposed_parties -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] 2011 Mapping party suggestions
All proposals are OK with me. Other blank spots in Metro Manila are Taguig (near the lake) and CAMANAVA On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 10:15 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: more complete than even Marikina? ;-) Not yet: http://osm.org/go/euzPdH3Jz- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] davao meetup?
Davao mappers, I will be down south next week. Perhaps a short mapping/tutorial/meetup on Saturday Jan 29 before I fly back home? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
here: http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=324914id=345455082596 On Mon, Jan 17, 2011 at 12:56 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Pictures? :-D On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 3:49 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: I just got home from the GK mapping with Rally. Just an important note, GPS alone won't work on high density slum areas. We tried a couple of approach: GPS, map sketching, compass and a laser range finder. Will post details later. One very cool thing that happened at the end of the day is that our German contact (Philip Paar) donated one Etrex HC for our group! It's on the list now. So if anyone wants to use them, post your request in the wike: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/GPStogo_program On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Have fun tomorrow, guys (or is it only maning so far)! Please give a report on the event. :-) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: GK-Telus Village here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=121.0327lat=14.67399zoom=18 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The slum mapping with Philip Paar will be on Saturday Jan 15, 2011. 2nd GK site Telus Village in Masagana, Tandang Sora (still looking in the map) from 9am until 5pm. Send me a private mail with your cell number if you are interested to join. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk] Generating a street directory from OSM?
maposmatic is a good place to start: http://www.maposmatic.org walkingpapers has some overview map thingie as well http://www.walking-papers.org/ On Tue, Jan 18, 2011 at 10:00 AM, Steve Bennett stevag...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, Wondered if anyone has ever put effort into producing a street directory from OSM data. For those in places where they're not common, a street directory is a bound book with numbered maps covering a city, at various scales. On the borders of each page are indications to the map that joins it (eg, Joins map 53). There are typically overview maps at the front, covering the whole city in two pages, and some touring maps at the end, covering the state or country, at very low detail. Sometimes there are special pages covering certain parts of the city at extra high zoom, like the CBD, universities, etc. Different formats suit different purposes: I have a Melway (roughly A4) and a much smaller UBD which can be held open in one hand (and consequently has hundreds of pages). Anyway it seemed like there would be some interesting technical challenges in producing such a thing, and making software to allow anyone to do this for their own city. Has anyone had a go? Steve ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
I just got home from the GK mapping with Rally. Just an important note, GPS alone won't work on high density slum areas. We tried a couple of approach: GPS, map sketching, compass and a laser range finder. Will post details later. One very cool thing that happened at the end of the day is that our German contact (Philip Paar) donated one Etrex HC for our group! It's on the list now. So if anyone wants to use them, post your request in the wike: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines/GPStogo_program On Sat, Jan 15, 2011 at 12:17 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Have fun tomorrow, guys (or is it only maning so far)! Please give a report on the event. :-) On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:04 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: GK-Telus Village here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=121.0327lat=14.67399zoom=18 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The slum mapping with Philip Paar will be on Saturday Jan 15, 2011. 2nd GK site Telus Village in Masagana, Tandang Sora (still looking in the map) from 9am until 5pm. Send me a private mail with your cell number if you are interested to join. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Garminasus A50 and Maning's OSM-Gamin-files
On Thu, Jan 13, 2011 at 10:03 PM, sorabsupers...@web.de wrote: Hi all (particularly maning) And - Hooray - it works. Kudos to Maning, Garmin and Asus. The A50 acts like any other Garmin device in terms of ./map/gsuppmap.img The credit should be to Maning and Rally (main osmph-garmin dev), mkgmap (the map compiler) and all the contributors. :) However what I observed is that there is a huge number of placetags recognized as Cities. Not only each Brgy and subdivisions thereof, but even single buildings with names. In result the phone apparently can't handle the data flood and indexes only the first few hundred entrees for each initial letter. E.g. for M from M'lang, North Cotabato to Maharlika. Did anyone observe the same on Garmin devices? Any idea how to fix it? barangays, islands and subdivisions are included in the city search (which should be called place search, IMO) Style details here: https://github.com/maning/osmphgps/blob/master/styles/default/points#L197 The City search exploded in number since we started adding subdivisions and residential polygons with names. Glad your back :). FYI, Soeren was one of the mappers who started our great coverage in Makati cheers Soeren -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
GK-Telus Village here: http://tools.geofabrik.de/mc/?mt0=mapnikmt1=googlehybridlon=121.0327lat=14.67399zoom=18 On Wed, Jan 12, 2011 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The slum mapping with Philip Paar will be on Saturday Jan 15, 2011. 2nd GK site Telus Village in Masagana, Tandang Sora (still looking in the map) from 9am until 5pm. Send me a private mail with your cell number if you are interested to join. On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Be careful in tracing from Bing Maps
I checked the existing coverage of gps traces within bing areas. Aside from Jolo and Sanga-sanga all of them have GPS tracks we can calibrate the imagery. See josm shots here: http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/sets/72157625812711648/with/5350890259/ A few observations while eye-balling the images: - Cavite, Laguna, Batangas area have extensive traces, I think it is sufficient for calibration/adjustment - same goes for Iloilo and Cebu - Puerto princesa has good coverage on some grid like streets, however, I'm not sure if these are multiple traces. Is there a Palawan mapper here? - very few traces in Tacloban but there is a grid-like trace in Tanauan (center of the image) - Cagayan de Oro has very few traces. I added my personal trace (using 2 separate GPS units) along the trunk road. So far, it lined up pretty well. - Puerto galera's major roads are traced, however, the roads are too curvy. Unless it is a multiple trace I don't think we should calibrate the image. - For all other areas, the traces are very few. @ Rally, is there a way to share the offset bookmark in JOSM? I suspect this is just a config line within the .preferences file of JOSM. It would be good if we can share the bookmark to other josmers. On Thu, Jan 6, 2011 at 3:19 PM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Rally de Leon wrote, On Thursday, 06 January, 2011 03:08 PM: JOSM Version 3767 (on Windows) looks like this: No need for extra plug-in (it's built-in): Indeed. Got it now. They must have sneaked that in in the last week or two! Good stuff. Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Allowed uses of map
License FAQ here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Legal_FAQ#I_would_like_to_use_OpenStreetMap_maps._How_should_I_credit_you.3F In my opinion, a full web address: www.openstreetmap.org is better. Slightly off, I find it weird for a Navy HQ a few kilometers away from the coastline (but that's just me). On Tue, Jan 11, 2011 at 1:36 PM, Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, http://www.gmanews.tv/story/210236/afp-eyes-transfer-of-major-service-commands-to-camp-aguinaldo Is this an allowed use of OpenStreetMap? Is the Base map from OpenStreetMap sufficient? BTW, this was edited by me on GIMP. Wayne Manuel ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: incorrect road map in QC
I got a message from a gps user. Maybe a mapping party in the area can improve it a bit? My response: Thanks for the feedback. As you maybe aware, we rely on volunteers (like what you did in Paranaque) to improve the data. Very few mappers are in Caloocan hence the poor quality. Overtime we will improve them. Keep on mapping! -- Forwarded message -- Subject: incorrect road map in QC To: emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Good afternoon. I just wish to inform you that the roadmap around the area where Eternal Gardens Memorial Park in Caloocan is very incorrect. I checked this against Googel Earth and the roadways are mostly wrong. I guess many of your map's users would appreciate it if someone could review this particular area and draw the roads and label them correctly so that our GPS machines can do their work better. On my part, I've already put in changes in the OSM map for the Paranaque area where I live. These changes are already reflected in the latest maps for download. I wish you more power to the work you're doing! -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
Any takers? I'm OK with the 15th. The professor who invited us will be here until the 18th. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 5:43 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ rally, The mapper who contacted me is a german professor teaching Landscape Architecture in Singapore they have some contacts within GK sites to assist in their slum upgrading projects as part of their students field work activities. @ eugene and wayne, Would Jan 16 be OK? It's a Sunday, and I suspect Eugene would be too tired coming from the wikipedia gig. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, can it be on another date? I'll be helping out with Wikimedia Philippines' Wikipedia Takes Manila to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th year anniversary. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Manila On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia Philippines will be having their Wikipedia Takes the CIty. Wayne Manuel On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] mapping prominent person's tombs (was Re: Fwd: incorrect road map in QC)
I think it's OK to add prominent person's tomb in the map. Although a borderline of who is popular/prominent can be difficult to define. I also don't know what tag should be used. (adding the talk-ph list for further discussion) On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 1:38 PM, tutubi tut...@backpackingphilippines.com wrote: regarding cemeteries, is it alright if I put the POI of the Vizcondes' tomb at Holy Cross? I frequent Holy cross but it's adequately mapped already i would like to know also the exact locations of the tombs of popular people like of pres roxas at south cemetery, prominent persons at the north cemetery, Ninoy and Cory's at manila memorial park et al -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125
Doh! I had a hunch that I mistakenly posted the wrong percentages (blame it on ooo calc). Apologies. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi maning, The percentages are an increase from the 2010-11-25 stats? If yes, then there are a lot of discrepancies. For example for nodes: 1,528,760 / 1,435,281 - 1 = 6.5%, not 9% On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 9:25 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here, in parenthesis is the % increase: Data as of 20110103 XML file size : 324 MB (+8%) Total Ways: 127,544 (+9%) Total Nodes: 1,528,760 (+9%) Total Relations: 645 (+9%) Contributors: 701 (+8%) of which, 83% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors. Total length of highways: 59,968.586 kilometers (+9%). ~30% of total highways according to the *revised* CIA factbook. Interesting for me is the increase of users and the decrease of total nodes contributions from the top 20 users. Caveat: Version and data history were not analyzed. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the stats right now? There have been tons of tracing since Bing came out. :-) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just some stats of our existing data coverage as of 20101125. XML file size : 304 MB Total Ways: 116,151 Total Nodes: 1,435,281 Total Relations: 617 Contributors: 655 (88% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors) Total length of highways: 56,877.305 kilometers (~35% of total highway length according to CIA factbook) Posting as a reference point for the much anticipated bing thing. :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Slum Mapping Party (was Re: OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo))
@ rally, The mapper who contacted me is a german professor teaching Landscape Architecture in Singapore they have some contacts within GK sites to assist in their slum upgrading projects as part of their students field work activities. @ eugene and wayne, Would Jan 16 be OK? It's a Sunday, and I suspect Eugene would be too tired coming from the wikipedia gig. On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 11:04 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Yup, can it be on another date? I'll be helping out with Wikimedia Philippines' Wikipedia Takes Manila to celebrate Wikipedia's 10th year anniversary. http://ten.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Takes_Manila On Mon, Jan 3, 2011 at 10:55 AM, Wayne Manuel wdman...@gmail.com wrote: Wikipedia Philippines will be having their Wikipedia Takes the CIty. Wayne Manuel On Sun, Jan 2, 2011 at 11:25 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The author of the article posted below is requesting for a mapping party for one of their project area on January 15, 2011. He should be posting the specific area in a few days, it will probably be a slum/GK site. Anyone interested? I'll create a wikipage once I get more details. On Fri, Nov 19, 2010 at 7:35 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: “Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125
Here, in parenthesis is the % increase: Data as of 20110103 XML file size : 324 MB (+8%) Total Ways: 127,544 (+9%) Total Nodes: 1,528,760 (+9%) Total Relations: 645 (+9%) Contributors: 701 (+8%) of which, 83% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors. Total length of highways: 59,968.586 kilometers (+9%). ~30% of total highways according to the *revised* CIA factbook. Interesting for me is the increase of users and the decrease of total nodes contributions from the top 20 users. Caveat: Version and data history were not analyzed. On Tue, Jan 4, 2011 at 12:30 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: So what's the stats right now? There have been tons of tracing since Bing came out. :-) On Thu, Nov 25, 2010 at 3:17 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just some stats of our existing data coverage as of 20101125. XML file size : 304 MB Total Ways: 116,151 Total Nodes: 1,435,281 Total Relations: 617 Contributors: 655 (88% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors) Total length of highways: 56,877.305 kilometers (~35% of total highway length according to CIA factbook) Posting as a reference point for the much anticipated bing thing. :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] armchair mapping in Albay
see my diary post: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/maning/diary/12686 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Sun Cruises is using OSM!
Yep, definitely OSM-PH Garmin Map with the old style. On 12/29/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: For her birthday, my friend from high school is planning to take our gang on a mini sunset cruise at Manila Bay from Sun Cruises, Inc.: http://www.corregidorphilippines.com/ They gave her a map showing directions to the dock where the boat is and I was pleasantly surprised to see the OSMPH Garmin map used as a background! I've attached the map they provided and the colors and buildings are unmistakably from OSM, though the shape of the Coconut Palace shows that they're using an older version of the Garmin map. But still, it's extremely refreshing to see someone use an OSM map instead of a Google map to provide directions. :-D I'll try to talk to them and maybe we can finally push through with the Corregidor Mapping Party. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party: Walking Papers scans
On 12/29/10, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Wow, just back from vacation, Hopefully with some gps traces. :) Has anyone notified the Tourism Authority? I think they'd be impressed. I did went to the Tourism Office (the building was in my assigned cake slice) and explained them what we are doing. They asked me whether I am bidding for the tourist map contract. A bit flustered, I then responded, no, we are not into the bidding contract but you can always use our map/data for your tourist spot promotions. Maybe they'd even fund future mapping initiatives of tourist areas? Hope so too. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party: Walking Papers scans
Here's the rest of the WP scans. Enjoy! slice5 - Rally lhn56v42 - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=pwqzwz4c d9lqrkrl - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=vd9r7shv tkp7mh8g - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=p6wwl2k9 nkv54phm - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=qtqmkt8g slice6 - Ernest x2fpn2g5 - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=v2d5l6cx d3kf7ptd - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=l9lfzpmm q8vml3mf - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=tp9h3r7f l4stqttf - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=qzxn4tz9 backnotes - http://dl.dropbox.com/u/607635/osm_stuff/intramuros/ernest_backnotes.jpg slice3 - maning h4dxl35s - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=tnmvxdwb 629l7p78 - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=8k7hphhl t9937xph - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=chdbvxfs 8zgm9hbk - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=kq8pt6lp 2tcgvn33 - http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=q2xw5tzv -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Fwd: announced streets are wrong for abbreviated street names on nuvi
Dear osm-ph gamin users, I posted this issue in the mkgmap list (the compiler we use for the garmin maps). The best way to solve this is to remove abbreviations in the map. Rally also indicated a way to resolve this by creating a custom textospeech correction to garmin devices with this capability. May we request users to report such errors? Just send the bug reports to me or in the osm-ph garmin trac. Thanks! -- Forwarded message -- From: maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com Date: Mon, Dec 20, 2010 at 11:25 AM Subject: announced streets are wrong for abbreviated street names on nuvi To: Development list for mkgmap mkgmap-...@lists.mkgmap.org.uk Not exactly an mkgmap issue, but I would like to point this out when mapping for OSM. Using nuvi text-to-speech feature, some abbreviated street names are announced with some kind of default words. i. e., - St. Thomas which should be Saint Thomas was announced as Street Thomas - E. Rodriguez which should be Eulogio Rodriguez was announced as East Rodriguez -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] osm in 3d
hello 3d buildings: http://latlon.org/buildings?zoom=16lat=53.86697lon=27.60236layers=B Discussion is here (is that Russian?): http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=10342 -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Skyway Bicutan-Sucat and SLEx TR3 opens (wa s Skyway’s Bicutan-Sucat section opens before ye ar-end)
Dear Tutubi, I uploaded my own traces of the road here but they have quite a difference with the existing road except at the ends so I didn't touch them for now: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/backpacking%20philippines/traces/885119 http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/backpacking%20philippines/traces/885117 I'll probably pass on the honor of opening the road to you so you can decide if you need to average on the traces No public trace exist in the area aside from yours, my theory is that Navigator25 (the username) interpolated the roads from somewhere: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/89177967 Your trace is the only real proof (for now) of the road location and shape in OSM therefore It's OK that you touch them. btw, i guess there's an OSMer in San Pablo, a great job there, I passed by several roads to bypass traffic in the main city roads and they're all there. I can only add Sulyap Cafe where I ate lunch (nice place, bahay na bato yet kinda expensive) I was about to go green water rafting in Lake Pandin if not for the rain YES! and that is ianlopez who started editing San Pablo w/o any hires imagery or GPS device. No other map that I know of has tremendous detail for San Pablo other than OSM. :) from Trinoma QC to San Pablo via EDSA, SLEX and the new toll road (collectively ACTEX) was just 2 hours from 6am to 8am... anyway, I'll be back there next week so I can check again On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 10:27 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: The road is already in OSM with an access=no restriction (ergo not routable). Tutubi should officially open the roads to OSM once he removed the access=no tag. :) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: SLEx-STAR link road. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- --- I explore, therefore I blog. http://www.backpackingphilippines.com -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] using walking papers where some data may not be used for OSM
Hi, Below is a possible use-case scenario we are planning to use OSM and walking-papers [1]. A rural health organization deploys community health workers to monitor household/individual health issues within far flung communities. They want to develop a an internal geospatial dbase of its beneficiaries as well as community resources. The org have very limited IT resources and intends to use open source and open data in their offline GIS. I see the potential of using walking papers as a good facility to conduct resource mapping and household monitoring. They can print out wp and annotate the map during field visits. They can then scan, upload and download the rectified scans to update their database using QGIS. The GIS person then updates their own database and maybe add a few roads, trails and other community resources in OSM. Now for my question [2]: 1. Some data coming from wp prints will not be included in OSM either for privacy or non-relevance to osm data. Is this OK with the existing and future license? 2. Because they used wp and osm to extract locations that will be related to org database, should it comply with the with the share-alike provision? I appreciate other ideas on how to implement this. [1] I know that it is possible to do everything in-house (wp and osm software are open source anyway), but the organization have very limited IT resources. [2] Probably in legal list but I'm asking anyway :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] busts and sculpture tags (was Re: Intramuros Mapping Party: meeting places)
Rizal Park is so full of various busts and commemoration plates dedicated to presidents, heores, etc. http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/lunetapoismarkers/ I am confused what kind of tag to add, several suggestions in the wiki: historic=monument historic=memorial tourism=artwork artwork_type= sculpture Which one is the most appropriate? On Tue, Dec 14, 2010 at 5:36 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: @ ed, here's more NHI markers for waypointsdotph http://www.flickr.com/photos/esambale/tags/nhi/ I will try to transcribe the plaque text later. Just for fun, I created a simple webmap to visualize my geotagged photos: http://geocommons.com/maps/41171 flickr's georss seem to show only the latest 2o photos, I don't know why. On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:38 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: We had the afternoon meet-up in Museong Pambata c/o Maricel Montero. Inside the Old Manila exhibit room was a large map showing the route of the Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade [1]. The map shows that the first entry point to the Philippines is a small island between Samar and Luzon island. This island is called Capul Island [2]. Some trivia why I am very much interested in this island: 1. The native language is not of Visayan roots but that of a distinct Abaknon (Inabaknon) related to the language family Sama-Bajaw dominant in Sulu archipelago and the coast of Borneo. [3] A map of Philippine languages is here [4]. According to local legend: Capul Island was originally founded by King Abak who escaped from Java with his tribe before the onslaught of Islam [5] 2. The geographic location of the island is an ideal amenity=galleon_stop to the long route=ferry name=Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade Route, before proceeding to Manila because of the small size of the island and the expansive view of the horizon. Wide-angle view of the horizon is very important for the Galleon traders in order to spot potential pirate attacks. 3. Much of what we know as Filipino food (plants, fruits or vegetables) came from the trade and commerce within this Manila-Acapulco Galleon Trade [6]. Big thanks to the Capul Island dwellers who helped secure a safe travel to the galleon traders. Free beers from me to anyone who will be able to visit and map this island. :) [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manila_galleon [2] http://osm.org/go/44Fk8h0 [3] http://www.ethnologue.com/show_family.asp?subid=1464-16 [4] http://samartrexplore.multiply.com/photos/album/17/EXPLORE_CAPUL_ISLAND [5] http://essc.org.ph/content/view/21/46/ [6] http://opinion.inquirer.net/inquireropinion/columns/view/20090923-226468/Mexico-under-our-skin On Sat, Dec 11, 2010 at 9:31 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Thank you to everyone who joined the party. We will upload the paper scans in the next few days. Will keep you posted when you can start tracing your cake slice. Maning (dead tired from 6 hours of walking on concrete pavement, but definitely worth it!) On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 11:44 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, The meetup place in the morning will be Chowking Intramuros: http://osm.org/go/4zhQKS6ZC--?m It's basically one block away from the Manila Cathedral. Hope to see many of you there! :-) Eugene (osm:seav) On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 2:03 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, For the Intramuros Mapping Party, there will be 2 meeting places. One in the morning before the field survey and one in the afternoon after the field survey. We have not finalized yet the meeting places and we would like to solicit suggestions from the community. For the morning meetup, we are thinking of Chowking Intramuros http://osm.org/go/4zhQKS6ZE--?m. You can have breakfast here if you want. Does anybody have other suggestions? For the afternoon meetup, we think an airconditioned mall with Wi-Fi like Robinsons Manila or SM Manila would be OK. The problem is that this is the Christmas season and the malls would likely to be more packed than usual due to the Christmas shopping. Somewhere with Wi-Fi would be nice so we can teach newbies how to edit and other stuff like that. But failing that, then maybe some of you can lend your mobile Internet USB dongles? An alternate afternoon venue I can think of would be either of the 2 Starbucks facing each other in UN Avenue at Bayview Park Hotel http://osm.org/go/4zhFeigv7--?m or any of the coffee shops along UN Avenue. What do you guys think? Eugene -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com
Re: [talk-ph] Skyway Bicutan-Sucat and SLEx TR3 opens (wa s Skyway’s Bicutan-Sucat section opens before ye ar-end)
The road is already in OSM with an access=no restriction (ergo not routable). Tutubi should officially open the roads to OSM once he removed the access=no tag. :) On Thu, Dec 16, 2010 at 2:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: SLEx-STAR link road. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party: Walking Papers scans
Intramuros Mapping Party - Slice2 (Talitha) http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=bsfm5n7h http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=v37gpl5f http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=3g2rbdtd http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=gsdbhn3h http://walking-papers.org/scan.php?id=krdzrl25 On Mon, Dec 13, 2010 at 3:06 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: A post about the strange ways people use walkingpapers: http://content.stamen.com/walking_papers_developments On Sun, Dec 12, 2010 at 2:39 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, My Slice 4 partner Wayne has scanned and uploaded our Walking Papers: http://walkingpapers.org/scan.php?id=5t6tq3th http://walkingpapers.org/scan.php?id=tgmpp5q7 http://walkingpapers.org/scan.php?id=2tczc687 It's all numbers because we wrote down the names and addresses into a notebook. There's very little space otherwise! Eugene (osm:seav) ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Skyway’s Bicutan-Sucat section opens before year-end
Is this the road?: http://osm.org/go/4zhDGp1g-- http://www.skyway.com.ph/news/49-skyways-bicutan-sucation-section-opens-before-year-end.html -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] bing in Naic, Cavite is shifted
On Wed, Dec 8, 2010 at 1:52 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: CDO CDO is OK based on my tracks yesterday. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] General strategy to using bing imagery in areas with no active OSMer (was Re: Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use)
btw, i'm using it on windows. The maning's simple instruction of simply downloading josm-latest.jar did not work for me earlier. I had uninstalled the josm windows installer, installed the plain josm-latest.jar... didn't work. Sorry. :) but then, after downloading the latest version again, I finally saw Bing on JOSM version 3695, and I'm still clueless what happened and how I did it. :-) This is because at the time that you have initially downloaded josm, the bing slippy option is disabled in the win installer because of the pending legal blah. I suspect that when you downloaded the win installer again, the legalese is now OK. I still have to figure out how to zoom in way down to a closer look of street level in josm. Bing imagery tend to disappear below 80meter zoom level. (i don't mind seeing pixelized image as long as I can see the silhouette of street) In the Preferences-SlippyMapTile SourcesBing Aerial Maps, set the max zoom level to 21 or higher. The default was z18. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] General strategy to using bing imagery in areas with no active OSMer (was Re: Microsoft Bing Maps Imagerty [sic] Terms of Use)
I'm posting this to generate insights on how we should maximize and accelerate data contributions in bing covered areas. At the moment there are a lot of bing imagery with minimal active ph-osmer (perhaps main reason is the lack of imagery). I am predicting that this will change very soon when other people start to see that their area of interest has his-res imagery available. As a community, how do we approach the info dissemination so that people become aware that there is imagery already in X town? Some suggestions: 1. Lets create a coverage list and add them here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_Philippines/hires_imagery . Do we have complete coverage sweep: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage#Philippines ? 2. Check nearby editors covered by bing and remind them that imagery is now available (via OSM messaging). 3. Seed the area by tracing roads (temporarily tagged as highway=road). Adding stub roads can give an impression of completeness. Hence, it can be counter-productive. Personally, I have reservations on point 3 (but lack the patience to wait for a passionate contributor in X town) :) . On the long term, the main strategy would be to encourage local osm groups within these imagery covered areas. Any ideas? On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:28 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: By the way, Bing imagery is already available on Potlatch 2, not Potlatch. You can access Potlatch 2 already at the main OSM website. Just go to the area where you want to edit, hover over the Edit tab until a small pop-up appears and click on the Potlatch 2 link. On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here is more information: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing And check first if the imagery is really rectified or aligned correctly; use GPS traces to confirm: http://blog.samat.org/p/Bing-Imagery-Misaligned-at-Lower-Zooms On Wed, Dec 1, 2010 at 7:40 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Here's the terms of use: http://opengeodata.org/microsoft-imagery-details Please read before tracing. :-) -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Bing or own aerial pictures...
According to the wiki, not yet: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing But according to the people who knows, it's as good as approved. Let's just wait for the legal bleh. On Tue, Nov 30, 2010 at 11:31 AM, Jim Morgan j...@datalude.com wrote: Totor wrote, On Sunday, 28 November, 2010 03:26 PM: I'll still continue to experiment with this, but the tracing from Bing might be available earlier. It seems to be available now if you're using the testing version of JOSM. Are we allowed to use it yet, or is there more legal wrangling to go through before we're cleared for takeoff? Jim -- datalude: information security e: j...@datalude.com Philippines: +63 2 403 1311 / mob: +63 917 849 3939 Hong Kong: +852 6840 6693 w: http://www.datalude.com/ ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Bing or own aerial pictures...
Very cool experiment! Would you like this added to the philippine images we have in the osm dev server (spot and quickbirds)? Maybe we can request gravitystorm to include this imagery. Or you can serve them yourself via tms. On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 7:47 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Yes, a vertical setup would be better, but I was just invited, so I took the pictures through the side window by hand. I asked the pilot for the price, but at around 3PHP for a short tour (5000PHP per person, but the helicopter has to be full...) I'm not sure I'll need a better setup ^_^ Without the Bing coverage I might have inquired about bringing only my camera on other tours. --- On Sun, 11/28/10, Eugene Alvin Villar wrote: Cool! I was about to ask you about your helicopter tours because of your recent edits, but Bing distracted me. Hehehe. Maybe you need a better camera set-up so you can get more vertical shots? On Sun, Nov 28, 2010 at 3:26 PM, Totor totor_...@yahoo.com wrote: Hi all, The Bing imagery is great for Cebu. I just had the possibility to make some aerial pictures of Cebu myself during a helicopter tour. The resolution is slightly higher than the one of Bing. The coverage is much smaller tough ^_^ And its quite some work to rectify the pictures. I tried picture by picture with Hugin but this only works if there are reliable perpendicular lines in the pictures. Directly with q-gis, there are not enough reliable traces to align everything, and it doesn't correct the angle of my camera... Now I'm back with Hugin, but the latest version. It can now stitch and correct the movements of the camera. The automatic control points are often on top of buildings, so they have to be selected manually. You can find some initial pictures here : http://osm.totor.ph/ I'll still continue to experiment with this, but the tracing from Bing might be available earlier. Cheers, Totor ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Multiple GPS tracks really make a difference!
+1 In the future, we can process more information coming from passive gps traces (speed, road width, etc). For additional future reference, I add mode of transport tags (foot, cycle, car) in my own traces. Hi guys, Here's an interesting article talking about how TomTom's MapShare program (both the active and passive types) are helping Tele Atlas (which was bought by TomTom) improve their data. The article itself is very educational, but the accompanying images are quite informative in themselves. Link: http://blog.telemapics.com/?p=323 This goes to show that even though a GPS may have errors, given enough data, the errors are averaged out and we can get real positional accuracy. So keep on uploading those (cleaned-up please) GPX traces! :-) Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Intramuros Mapping Party
Dear everyone, We need to compile a list of important landmarks in Intramuros and surrounding areas (historical areas/landmarks, POIs, etc.). We want to compile a comprehensive hunting list for each cake slice. Just reply to this message for the landmarks you think we should map or update the wiki planning page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Intramuros_Mapping_Party/Planning On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 1:27 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, I sent a message to Carlos Celdran on FB about the Intramuros Mapping Party, and he has included himself as an attendee on the Facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137921756259302 Now, I'm not sure if he will really attend since I checked his schedule beforehand and saw that he has a walking tour on that date (in Intramuros!), but maybe he plans to attend the morning meetup and talk to us? :-) Maybe someone here actually is personally acquainted with Mr. Celdran? Maybe you can talk to him and see how he wants to be involved. Eugene On Mon, Nov 1, 2010 at 11:16 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Facebook event page: http://www.facebook.com/event.php?eid=137921756259302 On 10/31/10, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, There being no objections or other suggestions, the 2010 4th quarter mapping party will be in Intramuros! Since Intramuros itself is too small for a mapping party, we will also include nearby areas such as Rizal Park, parts of Ermita, the City Hall area, and the South Port district. The target date is December 11 and so please block this date off your calendars. :-) I have created the initial wiki announcement page for this event, including the proposed cake slices: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Intramuros_Mapping_Party For our homework (and also for those who want to help out but can't join the actual party) here are things you can do: 1. Spread the word! 2. Map as much of the area from Yahoo! such as missing streets, buildings, and the like. This is so that attendees can then just verify them on the ground. 3. Create a list of historical landmarks (such as NHI markers) in the area that mappers can then look for. I hope many of you can attend! Regards, Eugene -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] ph data stats 20101125
Hi, Just some stats of our existing data coverage as of 20101125. XML file size : 304 MB Total Ways: 116,151 Total Nodes: 1,435,281 Total Relations: 617 Contributors: 655 (88% of all nodes came from the top 20 contributors) Total length of highways: 56,877.305 kilometers (~35% of total highway length according to CIA factbook) Posting as a reference point for the much anticipated bing thing. :) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Microsoft is letting OpenStreetMap trace from their aerial imagery!!!
Yay! Cebu here we come! On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 7:50 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Here'e an announcement from the Bing Maps Blog: http://www.bing.com/community/site_blogs/b/maps/archive/2010/11/23/bing-engages-open-maps-community.aspx On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 1:25 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Read it from the blog of Steve Coast, who have joined Microsoft's Bing Maps division: http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima Relevant quote: Microsoft is donating access to it's global orthorectified aerial imagery to help OpenStreetMappers make the map even better than it already is. Microsoft has vastly more and newer satellite imagery than Yahoo! has. This will certainly drastically increase the data in OSMPH. :-D -- http://vaes9.codedgraphic.com ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] wiki list of bing imagery coverage (Re: Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile)
I started the list: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing/Coverage On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 8:42 AM, Chris Browet c...@semperpax.com wrote: On Tue, Nov 23, 2010 at 18:06, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima Do we take bets on the time before the first article/blog comes out saying that OSM belongs to Microsoft ;-) ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Steve Coast Joins Microsoft as Principle Architect of Bing Mobile
Steve Chilton? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Steve8 On Wed, Nov 24, 2010 at 11:41 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 13:53 +1100, David Murn wrote: On Wed, 2010-11-24 at 08:13 +0530, Kenneth Gonsalves wrote: On Tue, 2010-11-23 at 12:06 -0500, Richard Weait wrote: http://opengeodata.org/openstreetmap-founder-steve-coast-joins-bing http://blog.stevecoast.com/im-working-at-microsoft-and-were-donating-ima I am a little confused - who is SteveC? or are there two of them? http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Steve then who is the older bearded guy? Or is he a fake? -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] Fwd: pgRouting with Phil data
Another routing application using pgrouting engine. A pinoy developer requested to include osm-ph data in the routing app during the FOSS4G conf in Tokyo. = Anyway, during that conference I was able to convince Daniel Kastl of GeoRepublic.org to include the Philippine OSM data into their pgRouting demo application. I don't know if you have used pgRouting before, but it does work quite well using the OSM for its network data. One of the big news of FOSS4G Barcelona is that the PostGIS people have decided to incorporate pgRouting into PostGIS 2.1, so it will be going pretty much mainstream. The demo site is here: http://websi.openvrp.com/ Just look for Philippines on the list of areas and zoom into Metro Manila. It uses just the Length as the cost, so it will just give the shortest path and not necessarily the correct path. What is nice about this application is that you can output the path in KML, GML, and couple of other formats. Regards, Mario. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] OSM related research in slum areas (BASECO and Sitio Pajo)
“Grassroots GIS: Digital outdoor designing where the streets have no name” ( Rekittke Paar, 2010, URL: https://files.me.com/paar/8t58bd ) We can contribute a lot by helping community organization create their own map for slum upgrading projects. -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[OSM-talk] monitoring tool request: GPS traces within a bbox
Hi, Just an idea and an appeal to those interested to code. I can really use (perhaps to others as well) a simple tool wherein I can monitor publicly uploaded traces within a bounding box of my area. I noticed a lot of unedited traces every time I download traces in josm. Unless the user provide meaningful place tags in the uploaded trace, I cannot actively monitor whether a new trace is uploaded via the rss feed. (or there is a tool like this already?) -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[talk-ph] mapping seasonal features
Hi, In my own patch, some attractions are added specific to the christmas season (tiangge, carnival rides, river taxis). Tagging time dependent features in OSM is not yet fully understood. There is a start_dat end_date tag, but I don't think this is properly rendered in the map: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:start_date My personal practice is to add the feature and then remove them when it is not there anymore. As an example, I created a tiangge polygon (landuse:retail) last year. When the tiangge ended, I deleted the polygon. It was opened again this year so I undeleted the same polygon: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/44130340/history What would be the best practice for such type of features? -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [talk-ph] Interesting changeset: Should we coordinate with DOH?
I suspect the following are in the same workshop DOH training: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6389845 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6389848 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6389900 If NEC stands for: - National Engineering Center of UP Diliman, I'm not surprised that the Geodetic Engineering Department is involved here. - National Epidemiology Center which is closely linked to RITM, then they could be some of the people involved in the Bohol data import. In any case, I am happy that gov.ph are getting more involved in our project. On Wed, Nov 17, 2010 at 7:06 AM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: Hi guys, Check out this changeset: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/6389149 The comment is DOH training GPS activity. The attribution is DOH GIS training group. And the editor used (for a brand new account) is: JOSM/1.5 (3592 en) While the data added (all POIs) are not really DOH-specific and seems to be an exercise, maybe we need to talk to DOH (Region 3)? Eugene ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph -- cheers, maning -- Freedom is still the most radical idea of all -N.Branden wiki: http://esambale.wikispaces.com/ blog: http://epsg4253.wordpress.com/ -- ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
[talk-ph] Northern luzon road and bridges status (Re: Typhoon Megi/Juan Humanitarian OSM Team activation request)
Dear everyone, I have a list of roads and bridges provided by DPWH. The list shows the roads and bridges that are closed to traffic. As per conversation with the Bureau of Maintenance staff. They don't have a lat/lon data of these bridges, they a follow a linear referencing system (kilometer markers) to locate the bridges on the ground (probably good to add this kind of data when you map bridges for OSM). The full-list is here: https://docs.google.com/leaf?id=1YlpX--gtON-_pH9jbz8nd28UWZT3GuKfh7cNs0DhWjIhx9fWz7s2Q5SzuAGNsort=namelayout=listnum=50 I roughly estimated the location of some roads: http://phdisaster.crowdmap.com/ (select the road condition category). I need your help to locate the following bridges/roads. If you don't want to add them in the crowdmap, simply give me a permalink (googlemaps/osm) so that I can add the info. Here's the list as of 12noon 20101108: Kalinga: * Lubuagan-Batng Buhay-Abra Road KM 481+200 to 506+800 - closed to traffic Cagayan: * Cagayan-Apayao Road ** Maguiling Overflow Bridge KM 519+725 Tuao, Cagayan - closed to traffic ** Tuao-Orag Bridge Fugo, Tuao, Cagayan - open to traffic ** Sarabay Bridge Calabioa, Tuao, Cagayan - closed to traffic Isabela: * Cabagan-Sta. Maria Road ** Cabagan-Sta. Maria Overflow Bridge km 451+462 - closed to traffic, underwater 5 meters depth * Ilagan-Bigao-Palanan Road KM 418+800 Rang-ayan, Ilagan - closed to traffic Aurora: * Baler-Caisguran Road ** Dibet Bridge KM 340 + 160 - not passable to all type of traffic Thanks again. On Mon, Nov 8, 2010 at 2:16 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, Another mapping appeal for the typhoon and flood affected areas in Northern Luzon. We need help in locating affected communities, damaged /impassable roads and bridges. We have an ushahidi/crowdmap instance to submit these reports here: http://phdisaster.crowdmap.com/main There is a wealth of data on site status in the ndcc website: http://www.ndcc.gov.ph/ I have started to geolocate some of the closed roads and bridges. But we need more eyes to locate them. I am using several map site to locate bridges (wikimapia, googlemaps, and osm). If you have spare time, please check out the ndcc siterep reports and add location in the crowdmap instance. More relief aid is being coordinated specially to remote areas. But they need some prior info on road access to help them in planning and coordinating ground response. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 7:21 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, A couple of updates regarding this initiative. - A NGO working with the Indigenous Peoples (Mabuwaya Foundation) within Palanan, Divilacan and Maconacon need updated map data to support they're work. - Flooding in low-lying areas along Cagayan River and Chico River - Several hires imagery was made available to UN Humanitarian Agencies. We requested these agencies to allow us to trace features for OSM. No reply so far. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010#Imagery_posted_by_humanitarian_agencies Given the above situation, I guess we just have to maximize the use of existing resources available to us (Landsat and 1:50K topos), I drafted several mapping priorities in the wiki: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Philippines_Tropical_Storm_2010#Mapping_priorities * Large rivers and tributaries (use Landsat for rivers and 250K and 50K topo maps for river names) * Move place=town/city node location to the town proper. * Roads and bridges (visible roads in Landsat are most likely primary and secondary, unknown roads should be tagged as highway=roads) Other things you might want to do is clean-up the wiki. I don't I will be an expert here :). Thanks for helping. On Thu, Nov 4, 2010 at 9:19 AM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: And now there's flooding: http://www.gmanews.tv/story/205093/100-cagayan-valley-villages-flooded-3-apayao-towns-isolated On Wed, Oct 27, 2010 at 7:46 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Dear everyone, Unsatisfied by the response below, I did a follow-up call with the NAMRIA concerned staff and explained the purpose of our project. They said that as long as we scanned them and didn't purchased the scanned/digital version from NAMRIA and we did our own rectification, this is completely OK. One thing to note though is that rectification should be in Luzon 1911 datum http://spatialreference.org/ref/epsg/4253/ and at least 16 GCPs are needed. After the rectification, we can then reproject it to GCS WGS-84 Moreover, they said that they are well aware of OSM in the Philippines of which they are grateful because we are providing free access to vector datasets of the country (specifically streets). Honestly, the above statement surprised me. On Tue, Oct 26, 2010 at 1:10 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Here's
