Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
You'll probably want one of those windshield suction mounts, something like this http://www.mountguys.com/Cup_Suction_Mount_for_Garmin_eTrex_Dakota_Oregon_p/mfx-wingn-11023.htm (note that this is just a randomly googled one and I can't comment on the quality). Because they need adjustability and enough surface on the windshield, it's not smaller than your GPS. But I don't think any other type of mounting system can fulfill all of the other criteria. Harald. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: I don't own a car, but I do occasionally drive one owned by family members and on very rare occasions rent cars. The question is, when in a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be appreciated)? Thanks. Colin McGregor ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: when in a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be appreciated)? I have a little beanbag thing on the dash and the hand held is cradled in it. Mine is home made, so no SKU for it. :-) A quick search for dashboard beanbag found a bunch of similar things, though mine is much less elaborate. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:46 AM, Philip Barnes p...@trigpoint.me.uk wrote: If you want to see it, then a universal mobile phone mount that sticks to the windscreen is probably the easiest. Thanks. If you are just logging, drop it in one of the centre trays, under the handbrake tends to work best. My focus is logging, but... Last week I was in eastern Ontario with access to my mother's car, and the question was how do I make maximum impact with minimal amounts of time. So, I did data capture for a new housing development, where there is a new gravel road in place (and a big sign announcing Lots for sale (I recorded where the gravel road was, I didn't make any effort to record where the planned lots are)), and a small lane way that has a few lakeside cottages on it. In addition to the two new to the map road/lane I saw something that I didn't realize until I got home was already on the map (mind you there was a bit that I saw that doesn't seem to match what is on the map, so I will have to double check that next time I am in eastern Ontario before making edits (*)) In other words I want to be able to look out the windshield and any time I see something that doesn't match what is in OSM (because of new developments or errors in the OSM database) be able to collect data... So, being able to glance at the screen is desirable. Also, since I don't get a chance to try this often, how well do GPSs work from the centre console (ie: cup holders), as I know they do a great job of detecting satellites under the front windshield, but I am worried about further inside the car (and under a metal roof)? Colin McGregor (*) Last week I went down Elm Crest Lane, just north of Rideau Lake, and Elm Crest Lane doesn't appear to connect to Wild Grape Lane / Rideau Lake Road. As I say, I want to double check that next time I am in eastern Ontario... Phil (trigpoint) -- Sent from my Nokia N9 On 26/06/2013 14:35 Colin McGregor wrote: I don't own a car, but I do occasionally drive one owned by family members and on very rare occasions rent cars. The question is, when in a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be appreciated)? Thanks. Colin McGregor ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 10:03 AM, Connors, Bernie (SNB) bernie.conn...@snb.ca wrote: Colin, I just recently bought a Garmin eTrex 20 as well and I also need a mount for my car. I jury rigged a mount for my eTrex 20 using an existing mini clipboard that has a suction cup to mount on the windshield. I removed the paper from the mini clipboard and then I created a small pocket for the eTrex 20 from cardboard and duct tape. I used double faced tape and more duct tape to attach the pocket to the mini clipboard. It is a little larger than necessary but it does the trick and it cost next to nothing. I'll snap a photo and send it later. Thanks. BTW, I have also loaded my eTrex 20 with maps from OSM Maps - http://www.osmmaps.com/ Yes, likewise. For the cost of a microSD card you can have fairly current (within the last few weeks) OSM maps on your Garmin (this feature is why I went with the eTrex 20 over the somewhat less expensive eTrex 10). I've got a 8 GB microSD card installed for storing OSM maps, even though a 2 GB microSD card would do for all of Canada, but finding a 2GB card this days is a challenge, and with 8 GB cards selling for under $10 not worth the effort to hunt down the small capacity cards... Bernie. -Original Message- From: Harald Kliems [mailto:kli...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, 2013-06-26 10:48 To: Colin McGregor Cc: talk-ca Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars... You'll probably want one of those windshield suction mounts, something like this http://www.mountguys.com/Cup_Suction_Mount_for_Garmin_eTrex_Dakota_Oregon_p/mfx-wingn-11023.htm (note that this is just a randomly googled one and I can't comment on the quality). Because they need adjustability and enough surface on the windshield, it's not smaller than your GPS. But I don't think any other type of mounting system can fulfill all of the other criteria. Harald. On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 9:35 AM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: I don't own a car, but I do occasionally drive one owned by family members and on very rare occasions rent cars. The question is, when in a car, how best to mount a pocket GPS (a Garmin eTrex 20) on the dash that will keep the GPS from sliding around? The solution can not require any permanent change to the car, should not leave any sort of a mark when removed and ideally should be just as small / smaller than the GPS itself. Ideas (where names of specific makes/models would be appreciated)? Thanks. Colin McGregor ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x34cb93972f186565 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Pocket GPSs in cars...
On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 2:04 PM, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Wed, Jun 26, 2013 at 1:27 PM, Colin McGregor colin.mc...@gmail.com wrote: Interesting thought. What sort of fabric (I am thinking that some fabrics would make things worse (silk? polyester?))? How large? Also, how well does it work? It works brilliantly. It's Mom-made, so, of course, it's perfect. :) Always the case :-) . The non-skid portion is, I think, the same stuff used to keep your carpet from slipping. The rest of the fabric is just decorative, so mine has a map theme. I've asked Mom if she would consider making another that I could give away. If so, I won't have it for a few weeks, at least. Long, strange story, but I have a sewing machine (old, and simple, but very functional). Getting some small pieces of oddball fabric should not be hard in Toronto's garment district (near King and Spadina), some beans (or similar filler) and making four straight seams all seems easy enough. So, three ideas worth further investigation: - A GPS holder specifically designed for the eTrex 20 - A dollar store notepad or cell phone holder adapted to hold GPS - A bean-bag made to cradle the GPS. All good stuff, thanks all. Colin. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Licence fédérale et Défi GéoHack de Mtl
Après les discussions lors de la présentation du projet GeoThink.ca ( http://www.meetup.com/quebec-geo/events/122357162/), il existe bel et bien des exemples d'organisations publiques de la France (dans plusieurs municipalités) et du gouvernement du Brésil qui ont opté pour des licences de leurs données ouvertes de type ODBL ou CC BY-SA : - Paris : http://www.zdnet.fr/actualites/open-data-les-donnees-publiques-de-paris-ouvertes-sous-licence-libre-by-sa-39756961.htmet http://opendata.paris.fr/opendata/jsp/site/Portal.jsp?page_id=10 - Nantes : http://data.nantes.fr/licence/ - Brésil : http://dados.gov.br/ Un sujet qui pourra sûrement être traité par : http://geothink.ca/, à savoir si ce choix stimule la réutilisation publique et la coproduction dans le domaine public des données ouvertes ou non ... Au plaisir, Nicolas Le 23 juin 2013 16:59, Bruno Remy bremy.qc...@gmail.com a écrit : Bonjour Nicolas, Sans avoir l'intention de pouvoir répondre totalement à ta question, je peux tout de même mentionner qu'en France l'administrations publiques (à différents niveaux: national, régional et municipal) ont largement (voir exclusivement) tendance à utiliser l'Open Licence (Licence ouverte) qui est encore moins restrictive qu'odbl, donc tout à fait compatible OSM. À noter qu'Open Licence, comme son nom l'indique, est une licence rédigée à la base en anglais, donc n'est pas une licence maison du gouv. français , mais bel et bien une licence standard de portée internationale, utilisée ailleurs en Europe (et peut-être ailleurs: je n'ai pas fait d'étude approfondie à ce sujet). Voilà mon grain de sel ;) Bruno Remy Le 2013-06-21 12:47, Nicolas Gignac gignac...@gmail.com a écrit : Merci Daniel de ces précisions. Existe-t-il, à part la façon de doubles licences, d'autres pistes de solutions pour mieux intégrer ces informations dans les deux sens entre OSM et les sites de données ouvertes d'organismes publics ? Est-ce que les administrations publiques devraient plutôt choisir seulement une seule licence, soit la BY-SA, dans leur site de données ouvertes ? Y-a-t-il des exemples dans le monde qui ont trouvé des façons innovatrices à ces problèmes et qui ont pu contourner ces petits détails, à part la double licence ? Je crois encore que, même s'il s'agit de la petite dernière des licence de données ouvertes au Canada, les incompatibilités de licences restes les mêmes encore aujourd'hui. Nicolas Le 21 juin 2013 11:01, Daniel Begin jfd...@hotmail.com a écrit : Nicolas, ** ** Pour être vraiment claire, l’utilisation de références (comme celles que tu mentionnes) aurait certainement un apport considérable. L’utilisation de pictogrammes est aussi d’un grand support. ** ** Concernant les données de type BY produites par l’agence ‘A’, importées dans OSM, puis récupérées par ‘A’ : À mon point de vue, l’intégration peut être faite mais avec certaines restrictions. Voici pourquoi… ** ** La donnée ouverte de ‘A’ (BY) est importée dans OSM. Une fois importée dans OSM la donnée devient ODbL (BY-SA) ‘A’ récupère ‘ses’ données de la BD OSM Les données récupérées sont cependant toujours ODbL (BY-SA)! ** ** ‘A’ peut donc les intégrer à son produit et rendre le produit disponible, mais avec potentiellement deux licences! La raison? Le produit de ‘A’ contient des données de type BY, et des données de type BY-SA.*** * ** ** ‘A’ doit donc distribuer ses données avec une licence spécifique à l’origine de chaque objet (BY ou BY-SA); ou ‘A’ tout distribuer avec une licence de type BY-SA. C’est le concept des licences virales (SA). ** ** Autre niveau de complexité : Une entreprise ne pourra pas vendre une version *à valeur ajoutée* des données de type BY-SA (obtenues de ‘A’) sans en rendre une version disponible à la communauté sans frais (à confirmer?). Ceci toujours en raison de la composante SA de la licence attachée aux données récupérées de la BD OSM. ** ** The devil is in the details! ** ** Daniel ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** ** *From:* Nicolas Gignac [mailto:gignac...@gmail.com] *Sent:* June-20-13 23:05 *To:* Daniel Begin *Cc:* Talk-CA OpenStreetMap *Subject:* Re: [Talk-ca] Licence fédérale et Défi GéoHack de Mtl ** ** Merci Daniel, mais justement, le bout de la licence de la ville de Montréal qui la lie à des licences mondiales bien connues du milieu ne devrait-il pas faire partie du texte des licences ? Justement pour que les communs des mortels puissent encore plus se référer à quelque chose de commun au lieu de faire des suppositions ou interprétations ? La clarté complète me semble une nécessité ici. Autre chose, même si je ne veux pas un avis juridique, si l'attribution y est inscrite (ex. aux contributeurs OSM) dans Canvec (ou toute autre données ouvertes en BY d'une administration publique), cela peut être récupéré de façon légale et être recontribué dans
