[Talk-ca] State of the Map... Canada?
Hello all, Sorry that I'm not subscribed to the list (hopefully someone will moderator this one-off e-mail). I seem to remember in the past there was talk of Canada potentially hosting State of the Map. Personally I think it'd be a great idea. I like Canada enough that I lived in Vancouver for 10 months, and wouldn't say no to an excuse to cross the pond again. It's been a long while since OpenStreetMap had an international conference in North-America, there's lots of potential to do interesting things with it. I'll leave these links here for you to discuss... [1] https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/State_of_the_Map_2020/Call_for_venues [2] http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2019/06/why-your-community-should-host-sotm I would suggest starting by saying if you're interested (and how much time you're interested in giving or what tasks). You might end up with an obvious team, or an obvious part of Canada. Remember, even if you've got a few hours a month or some time at a certain part of the year - it all helps. >From the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Gregory (LivingWithDragons) -- Gregory Marler ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-scotland] local spam locations from user BitcoinMaps
Great of you to do the research Stewart, and not limit it to Scotland or Europe! My thought process has just been: * Maybe this should be forwarded to the imports mailing list as they may have discussed (or want to discuss) that user and their API. * We can't see private messages on OSM, but a recent feature is (public) discussions on changesets. * I'll look up the changeset of the node you quoted, to see if anyone has complained about it. * No discussion started, might aswell check the user link now to just be sure the API isn't explained on the profile. * No profile text, diary = 0, but blocks received = 1, hmm... http://www.openstreetmap.org/user_blocks/611 The user is blocked and can't make any further changes until they log in (and read the block message). So there is no need to send your own message to them. The node in question should be deleted (by any of us reading this) because it is derived from Google Maps. However, perhaps someone in Canada will respond as they may want to make use of local knowledge. * check there is no cafe floating in the link there * use our usual sources (search for the cafe website, or go and find where it actually is) to check the data and correct location * add/move the cafe to the right place. There are plenty of great OSMers in Toronto. Including Richard W, perhaps he could plan his next jog to go past this cafe and check it out. :) Gregory. On 5 March 2015 at 02:57, Stewart C. Russell scr...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Following on from a comment on *talk**-scotland* about bitcoin-related spam appearing on the map, I had a dig around locally in Toronto. It seems that there's a user *BitcoinMaps* who is either randomly placing business locations on the map, or is using a really terrible algorithm to place markers on behalf of some other website's users. F'rinstance, here's one of the user's nodes: node id=3295611361 http://www.openstreetmap.org/node/3295611361 visible=true version=1 changeset=28221482 timestamp=2015-01-18T00:17:52Z user=BitcoinMaps uid=2135320 lat=43.6390092 lon=-79.3354046 tag k=addr:city v=Phoenix/ tag k=addr:housenumber v=11225 / tag k=addr:street v=N. 28th Drive, Suite A-110/ tag k=amenity v=cafe/ tag k=contact:phone v=602-595-8393/ tag k=contact:website v=https://www.facebook.com/AshleighsCafeLakeShore; https://www.facebook.com/AshleighsCafeLakeShore/ tag k=description v=Breakfast and Lunch served. Bagels, breakfast burritos, skillets, lunch meat sandwiches on whole grains and rye, croissants, wraps, melts, Chicago dogs and salads. / tag k=name v=Ashleigh's Cafe/ tag k=payment:bitcoin v=yes/ /node This would be all well and good (minor tagging oddnesses aside) for a cafe in Phoenix, AZ, but the marker is in Lake Ontario, a little south of Toronto. I have e-mailed the user, particularly requesting information on where they get their locations, and how change comments automatically created through an API (created_by=BitcoinMaps API) all reading “This place has been automatically created.” could ever be anything other than an automated import. I have no problem with people tagging businesses that use bitcoin*, as long as they at least try to meet some community norms. Spattering the map with noise, however, irks me royally. cheers, Stewart *: everybody knows that Dogecoin is better, though. Very currency, wow. ___ Talk-scotland mailing list talk-scotl...@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-scotland ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] App for mapping running/cycling itineraries/routing
The wiki is a good place to hunt down information on what's available. It's also a good place to record any project you start (with links to relevant code repositories like GitHub or implementation sites). Some pages I found: * The See More section on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bicycle#See_also * Bicycle category listing http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:Bicycles * Section on list of OSM-based services: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/List_of_OSM_based_Services#Biking.2C_Geocaching.2C_Hiking.2C_Sport Z-data (or elevation data) isn't generally stored in OSM. It can kind of work for points (especially peaks) but doesn't so much for ways. Map renderings (e.g. OpenCycleMap.org) or routing (e.g. CycleStreets.net) tend to supplement OSM data with SRTM data for elevation. There's a lot of information and help available on mixing SRTM with OSM. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Srtm I'm not exactly sure what you're wanting to do, I know many people have thoughts on cycling websites. They vary but all cross over a lot in different ways, so it's hard to know until something is built. Are you thinking something like Strava.com? They have had thoughts about OpenStreetMap, but it seems a very slow switch taking place (surprising as I find OSM far superior for cycle infrastructure given it's possibly the best form of transportation for mapping). http://blog.strava.com/new-open-street-map-data-and-mapbox-maps-on-strava-4924/ Hope all that helps, Greg. On 18 August 2013 15:47, Yves Moisan ymoi...@videotron.ca wrote: Hi Folks, I'm looking for an app that would let me map running/cycling routes using OSM data. I've looked at the OSM page on routing and found Cloumade's site (1) which is quite interesting and usable but has limited functionality IMO. What I'd be interested in as a first step is the ability to add vertices in the route. Currently, all one can do is add points at the end of the route so the only way to insert a point within a route is to delete all points from the end of the route backwards. Also -- and this is where maybe the cycling map would be useful -- I would very much like to have an altitudinal cross section of a route, either at fixed distance intervals or at slope changes (lows and highs) or both. I'm not sure how z data is stored in OSM (if at all). If not, then maybe in an app one could select points where one knows the altitude (without necessarily uploading the data to OSM per se). If yes then adding precision to interpolated altitudes with one's own data would be useful. Is there someting along those lines somewhere ? If not, what do OSM'ers do to start new projects ? GitHub ? TIA, YvesM (1) maps.cloudmade.com __**_ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-cahttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap Birthday Party, preview
The intersection looks clever and well done Richard. Hope they're as good as Richard's map tile cookies. Enjoy! On 10 August 2013 16:56, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Here is a little preview of the Toronto OpenStreetMap Birthday Party, today. http://weait.com/FestivalOfFondant The Toronto portion of the Birthday celebration includes a walking, mapping tour of the city, and a party, with delightful conversation and out-of-province and international guests. Many other cities are hosting OpenStreetMap birthday events too. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Master City: Let's play with OpenStreetMap
I'm installing it now. I added it to the Games wiki page. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Games#Games_using_OpenStreetMap_data On 23 February 2013 15:06, Mario Danelli mario.dane...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, thanks to OpenStreetMap and his team I have just released a new application, currently only for Android but if it hasa bit of success I have already set the output on the iPhone and iPad, called Master City. The application is actually a game where, with a double-click, you have to find 5 cities on the map. The data can be filtered by continent or country and choose from 3 different levels of the game. Furthermore, the application does not require access to the internet or wi-fi because, at the moment, everything is contained in the application itself. If you want to take a look under the page on the store https://play.google.com/store/**apps/details?id=com.danelli.** mariofeature=search_result#?**t=**W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kYW5lbG** xpLm1hcmlvIl0https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.danelli.mariofeature=search_result#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5kYW5lbGxpLm1hcmlvIl0 . I highly recommend you let me know if there are improvements (obviously) and such. In addition to the game itself I think can also be useful to know OpenStreetMap for people of all ages (from 10 up can also be used as an exercise in geography). Obviously in the OpenStreetMap spirit the game is completely free and without ads. Thanks again to all who in recent years have been mapped and those who have just begun. The attribution can be found in the credits section of the settings. Mario Danelli __**_ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-cahttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GPS inaccuracy
Who said Bing and/or Canvec are accurate? On 18 November 2012 19:31, Tom Taylor tom.taylor.s...@gmail.com wrote: Mostly the buildings were two stories only. A high-voltage transmission line runs behind them, the width of the buildings and more away, but maybe it had some effect. On 18/11/2012 11:23 AM, Pierre Béland wrote: Tom You can try to repeat the experience with this same GPS and compare your results. I dont know if this is the case for your. In urban areas, the tall buildings are obstacles to Satellilte signal. This increases the inaccuracy of GPS measurement. If you are close to a tall building, you wont receive a good signal from that direction. Your position is calculated with a principle of triangulation. You need to receive the signal fo at least three satellites. And results are far better with four. Pierre ... __**_ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-cahttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] News: Google mapping the North
It didn't take long to find somewhere more Northern that the OpenStreetMap Team had been too, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=69.6555lon=18.9339zoom=13layers=M Tough luck Google Maps. Sorry Canada. On 24 August 2012 02:15, James Mast rickmastfa...@hotmail.com wrote: Here's another link if you're having problems viewing the first. http://google-latlong.blogspot.com/2012/08/google-maps-heads-northway-north.html?utm_source=feedburnerutm_medium=feedutm_campaign=Feed%3A+blogspot%2FSbSV+%28Google+LatLong%29 --James ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] New flooding between Alexandria and Montreal
The tiles need to be rerendered and over large areas they're not always detected as having changes so don't need to be rerendered. I know you can do it manually on a per-tile basis really easily. Right click on the map where it is map and open image in a new tab. Then append /dirty to the image url and click enter. E.g. visit the web address http://a.tile.openstreetmap.org/9/150/183.png/dirty That tile (9/150/183.png) will then be submitted for rendering, which under normal conditions will be done within an hour. It is *not* intended that you do this programicaly. You can repeat this for several tiles. I think eventually it should update anyway, but that might be something like a week. You may also just need to refresh your browser image cache. Click the permalink, then press F5 (or Cntrl+F5). On 31 May 2012 18:22, Harald Kliems kli...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Andrew: that's actually old flooding, visible only at certain zoom levels. We've had a discussion about it a while ago http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2012-April/004674.html Since the issue still persists I'll try and see if I can contact anyone who will be able to fix it. Cheers, Harald. On Thu, May 31, 2012 at 12:10 PM, Andrew Allison andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: Hello: I'm seeing some new flooding west of Montreal. I can't find the break. Thanks Andrew http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=45.348lon=-73.909zoom=9layers=M ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Please use encrypted communication whenever possible! Key-ID: 0x199DC50F ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] new goodies on OSM
On 25 November 2011 15:04, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Dear All, The London hack weekend starts in a few hours in London (yay!), England (oh.) One of these days I'll organize a hack weekend in London, Ontario, just for laughs. If you do, shaun will probably turn up on his bike by mistake. Today, the layer selector (the blue + top right of the map) was changed. The seldom-updated nonames layer was removed, and two new layers were added. The Transport map shows public transportation infrastructure, and the Open MapQuest map is a general purpose map. We want more people to understand you can make special purpose maps from the same OSM data. Before I saw this e-mail I was just thinking now that the transport layer is more visible, it would be great if people would learn to map bus routes. It's a bit more tricky due to dealing with relations, so one of the oh-so-simple weait tutorials would be wonderful to have. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [Talk-us] High-visibility Vests
I think it's better to order them in bulk, which the OpenCycleMap did and is probably why they are unavailable. Meeting a safety standard was a bit attractive so you can use them for other uses that don't care about the logo. I think some European countries require you to have a high-vis jacket in the car for when you break down. Some mappers in the UK like to wear high-vis when cycling, so use their OSM one even when not mapping. When the SotM12 venue is announced it might be could for all countries to see what the interest is and then let Andy Allan (of OpenCycleMap) know or someone do an order of several. Having them available at something like SotM is easier/cheaper than individual deliveries. On 24 October 2011 03:39, Martijn van Exel m...@rtijn.org wrote: I have about a dozen of them and am happy to lend them for mapping party purposes. They look like this: http://schaaltreinen.nl/openstreetmap-hi-viz-vest If it looks a little wrinkly, that's because I brought them from Europe ;) Martijn On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 6:12 PM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: In another thread, the subject of high-visibility vests came up and I was wondering if there were any of these in North America. The wiki says the existing ones are sold by the OpenCycleMap shop, but they are listed as “temporarily unavailable”. In any case, shipping clothing from Europe is likely not the best option. Additionally, the vests aren’t likely to meet North American high-visibility standards. In my day job I deal with high-vis vests too much, so I am familiar with this subject area. I believe a vest meeting CSA Z96, ANSI/ISEA 107 with “MOT” style trim would meet the requirements for use on US federally funded rights of way (See Federal Register/Vol 71, No 226/Friday November 24, 2006, p. 67792-67800), BC MOT roadways (Technical Circular T-09/05), other BC roadways (OHSR 8.24 + G8.24-1), Ontario, Saskatchewan, Manitoba, Alberta and I would expect the rest of North America. The FWHA put the normal price of a vest at $25. The maximum area of a non-retroreflective logo on a vest is 100 square cm. ___ Talk-us mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-us -- martijn van exel geospatial omnivore 1109 1st ave #2 salt lake city, ut 84103 801-550-5815 http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [AtlanticCanada] Introduction
Sam, you start with discussing the types of people in the communities (professional or hobby GIS interests) and then you bring licenses into it. Yes you can probably draw differences, but I know there are plenty of OpenStreetMap people who are GIS professionals, people who frequently wear shirts ties, and even some people who don't like going to pubs but still attend or help organise meet-ups (maybe not the ones in pubs). I don't see what that has to do with licenses. I also don't get what point you're trying to make, or what you want to discuss/investigate. Unless you are only trying to get this card http://bit.ly/dvF1Q1 OpenStreetMap is a (relatively specific/single) project. OSGeo is to encourage the use and collaborative development of community-led projects so it is working with many projects it takes or it births under it's wings. We both get along with each other (as demonstrated by Teresa posting above). Even if we don't officially have joint events, various people can and do attend each others events or other geo events. On the talk of 'free', this needs to be qualified with a definition of the word, as suggested already. Many people I talk to consider Google Maps to be free, and I am happy for theem to do so. I could even define 'free' so that Ordnance Survey is included. So could you clarify what your question or comment is in one sentence please. Or just stop trolling and I'll get back to my work/mapping. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] I'd like to run something to add a French street name tag in Ottawa
On 21 June 2010 00:32, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: I won't run it against the live data and change the data on the server unless the community thinks this is a good idea. You and I think it is; let's see if some others support the idea. Don't call it a bot. Bots are bad.* My questions are why have these names been given Street not rue. I don't think name:xx is supposed to be a literal translation but what people of that language would call it. Sometimes there are road signs with both languages on. Some of these might (for whatever, possibly wrong, reason) have Street after the French name. Some might just be the user not thinking, or having missing data. Knowing a reason for a lot of the Street names would give support to your changes. E.g. a user explaining their lazy entry or seeing a selection are from imports. How will we know the changes were made by your script? Maybe tagging every element isn't necessary and just explain in the changeset description. *You can call it a bot if it is restricted to an area. Like you are doing, and so you count me as supporting this. If you have at least 1-2 people who have an eye over the place then, in my view, you should be allowed to do it. This means you must have support at the very least for each provenance you do it for. For example I only knew the Western half of Vancouver, you would have to also get the support of someone who lives/maps in the East to support you for a city-wide change. With getting boundaries, can you just run it on a bounding box that seems to encompass the whole city? What will happen outside: no name:fr will be found, or they will be changed with just the same accuracy/affect as the ones in the city? Also the value of my support got a half-life since I left Canada at the start of May, and I don't know about the french side. Hopefully you're happy for me to add these thinking points even if you decide to not care about them. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] GPS Suggestions
A lot of OSM-ers love the Garmin Etrex Legend HCx. It's got everything you want for a good price. Cheaper and you tend to start losing a lot for not that much money saving, more expensive and your jumping up to things like touch screen and latest/fashionable plastic case. The Legend is also so durable for the odd accidental drop. I generally agree with what is said in this review, and it breaks down Garmin's naming convention http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/gps-recommendations/ http://www.gravitystorm.co.uk/shine/gps-recommendations/You tend to save by buying online, somewhere like amazon, than buying in the shop (although that might not be so much in North America). On 14 June 2010 19:46, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Mon, Jun 14, 2010 at 2:38 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: I run a Garmin etrex legend HCx which gives 3 meter accuracy which I think is reasonable for a GPS unit. Mine came from MEC they have a web site at www.mec.ca and are reasonably priced. Hmm. Their site is down now. Must be all the OSMers going for GPSes. They have a store in Toronto on King Street, near Peter Street. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Gas Pipeline with 'type'
note=* isn't a standard tag! It's based to avoid using that, as the key used for a wide range of things and for writing human-readable comments. On 4 June 2010 13:55, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Just found another one, Im just fixing yup the wiki chart, and see that 118001* Way PipelineNatural gas, aboveground man_made=pipeline; type=gas Where it should be pipeline:type=gas http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CanVec:_Energy_%28EN%29 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:man_made%3Dpipeline The wiki does indicate that 'type=*' should be used, however, it's standard practice to not use 'type', but instead use pipefline:type=* What is currently used? I didn't find it in the samples. And perhaps going with the standard tag of note=gas pipeline could be used instead? Cheers, Sam Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] old messages about to appear.
Ah, that explains my OSM e-mail box suddenly filling up with new messages (I see now that they're all on talk-ca). Thanks Richard. On 12 May 2010 19:22, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: Dear All, I've been added to the talk-ca admin team, as our hard-working Jason has been increasingly busy. It is my pleasure and honour to help where I can. I've started by going through the backlog of held-messages in the talk-ca message queue. You'll see some of these appear shortly. I'll try to check these held messages every day or two. They'll mostly be spam; those I won't forward to the list unless I click the wrong button. Best regards, Richard ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Victoria MeetUp
On 6 May 2010 04:34, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: So if anyone is saying why should i map if the data will be imported from canvec? The answer is that the rest of the world needs to be mapped. And help is needed. 'cause as you all know, it isnt untill the base map is loaded that more start using the map and fine tuning it. There is plenty of 'detail' to be added to OSM. I started adding shops along Broadway, Vancouver before I left. Often places such as parks also need improvement, with footpaths and bicycle parking and such. http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=49.26377lon=-123.15618zoom=17layers=B000FTF -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Google copies GeoBase
Google Streetview has been in Canada since October 09, images from April/May 09. http://www.livingwithdragons.com/2009/10/street-view-comes-to-canada-including-ubc-vancouver A lot of roads the 'Google Van' went down the back road (between shops/houses) but it got marked as the main road, so it can get a bit confusing and annoying when you can't check out a shop. Greg. On 30 April 2010 20:17, si...@mungewell.org wrote: Pretty terrible effort on the part of Google, let's do better with OSM. I'd just to add that the 'new' Google map of the Crowsnest Pass is significantly better than it was before. No more random 'roads which are really cutlines' and 'roads which magically cross creeks'. Whoo Whoo Holly Sh*t they did Street View too! That said the OSM map has the new subdivisions as soon as they roads are drivable. Plus it has the 'Frank Slide Interpretive Center' (a major government funded tourist attaction) the Health Center in the right place. Hint for Google, they're not there: http://maps.google.ca/maps?f=qsource=s_qhl=engeocode=q=Blairmore,+Albertasll=49.891235,-97.15369sspn=31.844519,56.513672ie=UTF8hq=hnear=Blairmore,+Division+No.+15,+Albertall=49.605343,-114.433765spn=0.015574,0.027595z=15 Simon ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver campus data
The problem with the GIS guy is that he told me he wanted to say yes but he can't specifically agree to a certain license. I don't want him to play dumb. The Records Manager has been doing a great job of ignoring me. Even when I went to his office he sneaked out of the window while I waited in reception. Instead of replying to my e-mail directly he asked the GIS guy about OSM. The GIS guy is cool so he told me. The answer is no but maybe in the future. I want to write to the top of the university and say this is good/important for academic and innovation reasons. It would be really good to point out that everybody else is waking up to Open Data. Do any of you have information about the decision of the government to release the CanVec and Geobase data, why they did it, what they did before releasing it, and how long it took them to let it go? The announcement entry at the bottom of the page on http://data.vancouver.ca/index.htm is helpful in regards to the Vancouver data. Interesting to note is The City of Vancouver has incredible resources of data and information, and has recently been recognized as the Best City Archive of the World.(from the pdf file) so UBC can't say their data is too valuable. Any links for CanVec, GeoBase, or other appropriate announcements/info would be helpful. Thanks. On 24 April 2010 13:49, Richard Weait rich...@weait.com wrote: On Sat, Apr 24, 2010 at 8:52 AM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: I've been taught by OSM to be doubly sure on the license of data, and it probably differs from usual use because: it's out of academia; it can be used commercially; the attribution to UBC PlantOps is not always visual. I had also already sent an e-mail asking the Records Manager. Well, you (or I or any other OSM contributor) can't speak on behalf of OSM and the OSM Foundation. We can't accept a contract on behalf of the Foundation, etc. So there is nothing that you can do to make this okay, without help or some additional steps. 1) So, you can ask the data donor to agree to contribute their data under CC-BY-SA v2.0 the current OSM license. You should also tell them that OSM will transition to ODbL v1.0 in the near future and they should agree to that as well. If they agree to that, get it in writing, copy it to le...@osmfoundation.org, make a note on the wiki[1] as well. Then follow the rest of the import guidelines [2] and check that the data is actually of high enough quality to be worth contributing. 2) get them to publish their data under the PDDL[3]. This is a public domain equivalent and PDDL data can be imported to OSM if the data meets the rest of the import guidelines. 3) or, consider their license, and present it to le...@osmfoundation.org for consideration. Try to point out the good and bad points of the license and the potential data contribution for the OSMF, they really do have better things to do that to read every last bizarre home-grown license from contributors who don't want to participate in OSM. Donors expecting anything beyond mention on the Attribution page are probably expecting too much. Especially small donors. To review, each of us can discuss, guide, and encourage individual donors. With experience we can even suggest what terms are more or less likely to be accepted by OSMF. We can't decide what OSMF will accept and we can't accept terms on behalf of OSMF. Hope this doesn't dampen your enthusiasm. Just take all the steps and ask for help when you need it, perhaps at legal-talk or import lists. Keep traffic to le...@osmfoundation.org to a minimum, they're only a few volunteers. [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Attribution [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import_guidelines [3] http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/pddl/ ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] OpenStreetMap.ca
I bought britishstudent.ca at domainsatcost, it seems to be a good and well priced place for .ca The fact that the website is still up suggests it isn't a mean domain grabber (it would have been replaced with bad ads by now). Does anybody know what the whois was before it was set to expire? I think there are websites where you can check whois history(like checking whois live) but you have to register(free) for the history and I don't like to do that(maybe I should). I'm surprised the whois is so short, it might be worth contacting domainsatcost to ask for more details. I don't know what the requirements are for providing domain owner contact information. I know some companies offer to mask your info by putting an email address that forwards to the owner. Gregory. On 27 April 2010 04:37, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Well, I'm no expert on this. All i know is that before 2 days ago, it was registered to user:Dshpak (he's the OSM mapper who did all the nations coastline) or made the conversion program or something? It then time lapsed, and it looks like it got picked up my a domain collecting thing. DomainsAtCost Corp. http://www.domainsearch.com/cgi-bin/Domain_Search?action=whoisDomainName=openstreetmap.caAdCode=infobox2 Jason Reed hosts the data, but does't have access to editing the website. I reached him on facebook (i don't know what his email address is, he's not active in OSM right now) and Nicolas Gignac is interested in editing the page, so it includes french (and update it more probably) http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2010-March/002294.html http://www.domainsatcost.ca/Whois.aspx So you'll need to contact Jason Reed call Domainsatcost.ca (it's a 613 number) I dont know, would they have access to the history of the domain? I'll message him on facebook asking to contact you. I'm no good at this stuff. Its especially difficult if you register a domain with Google... then nothing can be done on the website (see acrosscanadatrails.com) you dont even get ftp access it isn't linked to other Google services. .. which is rather annoying. Cheers, Sam On Tue, Apr 27, 2010 at 4:15 AM, ty...@egunn.com wrote: On 2010-04-27, at 2:29 AM, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hey all, a quick reminder that the website domain has expired, and its past the renew date. I havent been able to get contact with user:Dshpak (who is the owner) So if he let it laps, it maybe available. Anyone want to purchaise it? Im sure whoever does will be willing to allow for multiple admins, so this wont happen again. :-) Any takers? Sam I just looked at the Whois and it appears to be renewed until next year now. Hopefully the right person renewed it. Tyler ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Opendata group Analysis
On 24 April 2010 16:44, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: The reason I've posted in both CA and Newbies is we don't appear to have the same capabilities in OpenStreetMap unless I'm missing something and their applications use Google Map as a background image and sticks the icons in on top. Anyone have any knowledge of what they are doing or how they are doing it? It's easier/cleaner to do 'mashups' with the Google API. With the options from OpenStreetMap you need to be brave looking at javascript, but it can be just as quick to do. There are some helpful examples of using OpenLayers(powers the 'slippy map' on osm.org) at http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/OpenlayersI believe someone is working on making it easier to do lots of drawing functions over the map, like you can with Google. They are doing it as a Google Summer of Code project, but I'd wait and see what actually comes out of it at the end of the summer. Some people use the Google API(I've never looked at it myself) and you can display OSM maps instead of the Google maps (it still has the powered by Google logo, but displays an OSM copyright message instead of TeleAtlas/NavTeq). I think this is usually for people that have built a webpage/site and later decide to use OSM without rewriting their displaying code. The page for that is here http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_Maps_Example Note, I'm not on the Newbies list, so my message will have to be approved or if it is helpful someone can forward it over. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] [gvcc-members] Vancouver moves ahead on major bike lane artery
You guys know what a separated cycle lane is?! 4 metres, minus the concrete barrier? I guess that is a bi-directional lane at that exciting width. If it's alongside the road it would normally be tagged on the highway way as cycleway=track (rather than lane) http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cycleway http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/CyclewayI'm not sure if there is a proposed tagging, although looking at the Europe tagwatch there are 82 uses of cycleway=proposed http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Europe/En/keystats_cycleway.html and 26 uses of cycleway=construction. As there is already a cycle lane there, I would leave it as that. Maybe changing to cycleway=construction (which might not show on the cyclemap) when construction starts (assuming it makes the cycle lane non-existent) and then of course to track. Do you have details of where we can complete the survey? On 20 April 2010 12:30, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Fyi Vancouver Mappers, it gotta be mapped :-) On 4/20/10, Paul Rothe paulro...@shaw.ca wrote: Vancouver moves ahead on major bike lane artery Times Colonist, April 20, 2010 Dunsmuir Street VANCOUVER — merchants are being asked how they feel about having separated bike lanes run the length of the street from the Dunsmuir Viaduct to Burrard Street. In February, Vancouver City council approved in principle the construction of a major east-west bike route running along Dunsmuir. The plan calls for replacing a parking lane on Dunsmuir with a four-metre-wide bike lane separated from vehicle traffic by a concrete barrier that would decrease the amount of on-street parking and loading zones, necessitate the moving of bus stops and introduce some turning restrictions at intersections. But a report to council says the plan would significantly increase the number of people who choose to cycle and would create a more comfortable walking experience for pedestrians, as the bike lane would act as a buffer zone between them and vehicle traffic. Councillor Geoff Meggs, a proponent of separated lanes for cyclists, said something needs to be done as the downtown “is a black hole right now in terms of biking safety. “It’s a big deterrent for people who like to ride bikes,” he said. Meggs said separated lanes were the only way to advance the safety of cyclists, and motorists would sooner have bikes on the other side of a barrier. “It’s better than the harumscarum that goes on down there now with bikes and vehicles all mixed up,” he said. Meggs said council wants to create a cycling commuter bridge across the downtown. Results of the survey will be collected by the end of April and staff will report back to council by June with its findings. If approved, construction on the separated bike lane would begin immediately. http://digital.timescolonist.com/epaper/viewer.aspx Paul www.rothe-aismax.com -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping 'proposed' or 'planned' or 'construction' trails/roads/buildings
People try to get this sort of information from textual descriptions (and local knowledge). Then of course it will probably need correcting once it is open/accessible. You can try and work it out from standing at a construction fence and looking at which direction the road takes. You can also try contacting people for permission to copy their map (if they surveyed/created it or have full rights to give to you) or to access their land. It all depends how much work you want to do when sooner or later you will be able to map the trail in the normal way of going along it. On 14 April 2010 13:06, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: Hi all, What is the communities policy for mapping 'planned construction'? Here's the situation, the Capital Region District (Victoria area) has already gained the approval of the people to actually build a trail section (from Langford to Shawnigan lake). All that needs now is some funding and some land ownership agreements. It goes over existing 'wooded area' and wont interfear with anything else. My guess would be that 'because the proposal is now in the 'waiting for construction' phase, it would be OK to map. (so it needs to gain council approval) But the catch is, is that it needs direct permission from the cartographer who drew that map that was on public display. Or the person was directly part of the 'scouting mission' to physically hike the terrain (with landowner approval) and donated the tracks to OpenStreetMap. Of course, at eithor end, the road/path should not be physically connected, and gates signage drawn on the map where it physically exists. Ideas? Cheers, Sam -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Mapping 'proposed' or 'planned' or 'construction' trails/roads/buildings
Well here is an example in the UK: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=54.76883lon=-1.59148zoom=17layers=B000FTF It's an old/disused university college that is now a housing construction site. I've been up to the fence where they started to build the roads in (you can see the kerbs). If you see the one in the South side of the construction site I couldn't go all the way to that T-junction, but I could see it existed by looking through the gate. I like the idea of OSM being up to date, so I kept passing by to see if it was built/open yet. In September I'll be back to check it again. Doing my final university year at Durham. On 15 April 2010 18:08, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Apr 15, 2010 at 6:00 PM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.comwrote: People try to get this sort of information from textual descriptions (and local knowledge). Then of course it will probably need correcting once it is open/accessible. You can try and work it out from standing at a construction fence and looking at which direction the road takes. You can also try contacting people for permission to copy their map (if they surveyed/created it or have full rights to give to you) or to access their land. It all depends how much work you want to do when sooner or later you will be able to map the trail in the normal way of going along it. Ya, your probably right. After all, there is still alot of work todo to map the existing world. :) I'm just getting ahead of myself. That'll be a project for next year :-) Cheers, Sam On 14 April 2010 13:06, Sam Vekemans acrosscanadatra...@gmail.comwrote: Hi all, What is the communities policy for mapping 'planned construction'? Here's the situation, the Capital Region District (Victoria area) has already gained the approval of the people to actually build a trail section (from Langford to Shawnigan lake). All that needs now is some funding and some land ownership agreements. It goes over existing 'wooded area' and wont interfear with anything else. My guess would be that 'because the proposal is now in the 'waiting for construction' phase, it would be OK to map. (so it needs to gain council approval) But the catch is, is that it needs direct permission from the cartographer who drew that map that was on public display. Or the person was directly part of the 'scouting mission' to physically hike the terrain (with landowner approval) and donated the tracks to OpenStreetMap. Of course, at eithor end, the road/path should not be physically connected, and gates signage drawn on the map where it physically exists. Ideas? Cheers, Sam -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans OpenStreetMap IRC: http://irc.openstreetmap.org @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver campus data
I finally got some contact details from my geography teacher that seem like they might be the place to go. At some point I'll be documenting stuff in the wiki, so I started now: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:British_Columbia:Vancouver/UBC http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Canada:British_Columbia:Vancouver/UBCThat includes a pdf sample of the data. Note it has every single bollard and cycle rack even if they are bunched up next to each other. However cycle racks don't have capacity like OSM does, so 4 cycle racks might only take 4 bikes each, or they might take 40 bikes each. Please comment (on the wiki talk/discussion page?) on my list of what is good for OSM, soon I will probably be telling them what I'll import. Greg. On 29 March 2010 23:41, Adam Dunn dunna...@gmail.com wrote: Many bike racks are also under cover (Buchanan and Dempster come to mind), so good luck spotting them on Yahoo. I can also attest to the fact that Yahoo is not very well orthorectified for UBC, especially in the theology department and Gage towers. I think Fairview was okay though... I don't see how using PlantOps maps to plan a day's outing could be considered derivative work though. If Gregory goes to the location on foot and marks a gps point for the bollards on Main Mall near Forestry, then it's his own work. Looking at PlantOps maps to see that there is something interesting in the area shouldn't really count as an original source. Adam P.S. Sorry about the duplicate email Russell. On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:32 PM, Russell skiinf...@gmail.com wrote: Unfortunately the yahoo imagery in Vancouver isn't good enough to see bike racks anyways :( The yahoo imagery at UBC is distorted also (wavy) on part of the campus. Regardless, if we want to make a demo area at UBC with very high detail mapping, then I would like to help as I am a student out there as well. The orienteering club has done a great job of mapping the campus over the last few years (this is the map from a while ago, now the entire campus is mapped: http://www.orienteeringbc.ca/gvoc/maps/files/UBC.gif) Unfortunately they do trace imagery so it isn't suitable for importing I think. Russell On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:08 PM, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 7:00 PM, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:37 AM, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: Bicycle racks would certainly be a welcome addition. I look at the number around UVic and shudder. However, who holds copyright on the data? They need to sign off on importing it into OSM if it isn't licensed under fairly liberal terms. If you don't know then it is likely all rights reserved. Plant Ops may not have the ability to do this. Likely you are going to need to clear it through Legal, which can add time and headaches. So this brings up a question for me... If Gregory were to wander around the campus, and mark the bike racks on his GPS, and upload that to OSM, it would be completely kosher. What if Gregory were to plan his outing to collect information by referencing the copyright information in the campus map. Would that make his information a derivative work? I would think not. If you are using the map to navigate, I think there is a pretty strong argument for deriviativeness. Better to simply wander around and find them in a very systematic way. What if Gregory were to reference the location of the bike racks on the campus map, and then use the Yahoo Map images to locate the bike racks, and mark them on OSM. Would that now be a derivative work? This I don't know... Yes, this definitely would be, because there would be no actual ground truthing. Corey ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Russell ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver campus data
On 29 March 2010 10:37, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: However, who holds copyright on the data? They need to sign off on importing it into OSM if it isn't licensed under fairly liberal terms. If you don't know then it is likely all rights reserved. Plant Ops may not have the ability to do this. Likely you are going to need to clear it through Legal, which can add time and headaches. I am aware of this, I know some places may say sure, do what you like but I will make sure they first tell me yes our own staff created the data from scratch with no tracing of anything. I have a good feeling they drew it all out themselves over the years, PlantOps here is a pretty big and I often think this campus is a small city itself. I'll document the details (such as what tags I give what data items) and blog the process (including communication outcome). -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Vancouver campus data
For information, this is the reply I got from my lecturer at the end of last week: Hi Gregory I check with a few people and try to find the correct contact. There are a few members that are into the GIS while another sector is still 'hugging' their databases. I'll report early next week. Cheers Jose If I get my foot in the door (e-mail communications flowing, or even better a meeting/presentation opportunity) then I feel confident I can convert them (although I understand it is a challenge). While waiting to make contact, I'm working on a little website that will be cool for OSM worldwide, but testing it on the campus and might make a good example of the benefit of PlantOps data for the university. I'll of course announce it as soon as I have something to show. Would I need to talk to UBC Legal if I get some one high up in Plant Ops to agree, e.g. the manager. I don't think there should be technicalities involved or a license, I'm aiming for a Here is this one time file sent to Gregory, which we grant permission for it to be imported into OSM and the data used in the way OSM says.. Rather than them uploading the data to their website, updating it frequently, available for non-OSM use of some kind. You have got me thinking that maybe UBC need to agree, not just the PlantOps division. Which could make it all the more confusing, I'm not sure who I talk to. At least PlantOps is a start, and if I get them on board they could ask the relevant person. We will see what happens once communication gets past the Geography (teaching) Department. Just thought: In the UK we have a Freedom of Information Act for public institutions, which I believe you have something similar. I've never heard it applied to map data because the councils get it on license from the evil perfect OS, but I think we can use it to get a list of road names and classifications. Could we make a FoIA request to the university for the map data, because it's not a commercial asset (I don't think they sell campus maps)? Is this a crazy idea, and does that stop us doing it? Does anyone here knowledge/experience of the Canadian FoIA system? This website makes it very easy to make requests in the UK and you can find replies that people have made (using the website, not direct requests). http://www.whatdotheyknow.com On 29 March 2010 12:24, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: On Mon, Mar 29, 2010 at 11:47 AM, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: On 29 March 2010 10:37, Corey Burger corey.bur...@gmail.com wrote: However, who holds copyright on the data? They need to sign off on importing it into OSM if it isn't licensed under fairly liberal terms. If you don't know then it is likely all rights reserved. Plant Ops may not have the ability to do this. Likely you are going to need to clear it through Legal, which can add time and headaches. I am aware of this, I know some places may say sure, do what you like but I will make sure they first tell me yes our own staff created the data from scratch with no tracing of anything. I have a good feeling they drew it all out themselves over the years, PlantOps here is a pretty big and I often think this campus is a small city itself. I'll document the details (such as what tags I give what data items) and blog the process (including communication outcome). If PlantOps created it all by themselves then the copyright is likely UBC's, as most employment contracts require copyright assignment during work hours. Which still leaves you in the position of needing to talk to UBC Legal. In my experience, the bigger the agency, the harder and longer you have to work to get them to understand open source/free content. Corey -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca : français/québ écois...
2010/3/27 Nicolas Gignac gignac...@gmail.com My last question would be : if we want to use the word openstreetmap in our domain name, do we need to be supported by some people, organization or we can process with this : openstreetmap.qc.ca domain without any problem ? I would go ahead with that domain name, other people make similar named websites. I don't actually know about the name OpenStreetMap but I know the logo is trademarked by the OpenStreetMap Foundation(OSMF). This was done mainly so that people can't use it in a negative way, I fairly sure you're allowed to use it as you're supporting OSM and linking back to them a lot. You could contact the foundation to check things like this. They are a friendly bunch from the OSM community, elected by other members. I suspect at least a couple of the board members know some French too (sorry, I don't!). http://www.osmfoundation.org -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] openstreetmap.ca : français/québ écois...
Also, if you are communicating to other organisations about OSM, you might want to think about creating a local chapter. Contacting the OSMF local chapters group you could at least ask them if you should or for other advice. http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Local_Chapters_Working_Group http://www.osmfoundation.org/wiki/Working_Groups#Local_Chapters_Working_Group lo...@osmfoundation.org 2010/3/28 Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com 2010/3/27 Nicolas Gignac gignac...@gmail.com My last question would be : if we want to use the word openstreetmap in our domain name, do we need to be supported by some people, organization or we can process with this : openstreetmap.qc.ca domain without any problem ? I would go ahead with that domain name, other people make similar named websites. I don't actually know about the name OpenStreetMap but I know the logo is trademarked by the OpenStreetMap Foundation(OSMF). This was done mainly so that people can't use it in a negative way, I fairly sure you're allowed to use it as you're supporting OSM and linking back to them a lot. You could contact the foundation to check things like this. They are a friendly bunch from the OSM community, elected by other members. I suspect at least a couple of the board members know some French too (sorry, I don't!). http://www.osmfoundation.org -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] FW: Welcome to MyTTC!
You got to drive the street car? Cool. I'm living in Point Grey, Vancouver (a month until I leave Canada though) and was planning to go on it just for a ride, and to check the route is on OpenStreetMap(OSM). The only time I was down there I had my bike though, so I just corrected the location of the station. http://osm.org/go/WJQrBqYv-- OpenStreetMap is a project that is mapping what we see on the ground today (and keeping it up to date). So a railway track could be disused (some track may remain, it may be filled in, or the strip of land may still be there), in use (watch out, trains!), or proposed (under construction, or land being prepared/kept for construction). Then you get various times of course. You can see all the data people are adding using the tags mentioned on this page: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Railway Please note that copyright laws are very important with OpenStreetMap. If you are copying data from sources other than you going out and seeing it for real, then you need to check who owns the copyright (who made the map or image usually) and if they will let you add it to OSM (where it can be used by anyone, even commercially for free). There are some cases where copyright does not exist, I think 50 years after stuff was last published it becomes public domain information (anyone can do what they like with it). When you do add stuff to OSM, use the tag 'source' with a value that lets other people know where you got it from. This page might be useful, especially the last bit http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Out-of-copyright_maps There are some guides on how to edit OpenStreetMap. Although they aren't always the best writing or up to date, so feel free to ask. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Beginners'_Guide I remember someone in the UK making a historic map of the UK railways, but I'm struggling to find it. I'm not sure how they did this, or how they combined old data with OSM (there are a variety of possibilities). To do this, how much developer knowledge/experience do you have? For the most customisation then setting up a server is best, but on a lower scale you can do stuff with a little javascript and html. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] Vancouver campus data
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Re: [Talk-ca] State of the Map 2010
I will be going to StateOfTheMap this year. Although I'll be back to living in the UK by then. It's really great, I would try and persuade anyone who can make it to come along. The unscheduled time is great, you'll probably mean people from all over the place and learn lots of things about why things are done in OSM the way they are (for better or for worse). I went to the 2008 conference in Limmerick, Ireland and had a great time. If you need persuading I will gladly go on about how good it is. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Streets with frontage roads...
On 8 March 2010 12:18, James Ewen ve6...@gmail.com wrote: What is the common ground on tagging these things? I would guess that all these roads would get named Grandin Road, as the houses are all addressed as Grandin Road. I was thinking that the 4 lane section get bumped to tertiary as it is a collector road, and as such would be more important than just a plain residential road. The side roads could then stay as residential, or perhaps they would be better tagged at a lower level? I would go for that. On UK occurrences of this I would possibly tag them as service rather than residential, but it depends how wide/used the road is (try to think if you saw it on it's own). Later somebody (hopefully) will add the house numbers (using http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Proposed_features/House_numbers/Karlsruhe_Schema) and the houses will either be in a relation with the side/frontage road they are on, or they will be tagged with addr:street=Grandin Road and an algorithm would pick the closest Grandin Road to the house number it wants. Off-topic: The OSM map now has a Shortlink in the bottom right with Permalink and you get something like http://osm.org/go/WPoaJWjUy- Which I prefer over other link-shorteners in a mailing list because I can see it is going to OSM rather than needing to trust you won't take be to some virus-laden website. :o) -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] Fwd: [gvcc-members] Google Goes Bike with Directions
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